0:00 Did you see a weird connection of all the past lone gunman shooters and then they have mugshots and they all look like weird incels with a weak chin? >> Lee Harvey Oswald basically, yeah. With a weak chin. >> Saw that. Yeah, weak chins is always a thing. Welcome back to Careful Boys. Today we're talking about rumors that we think are true. Look at all these rumors surrounding [snorts] me every day. All right, I'm too old. You guys don't know what I'm talking about. >> Well, the hottest rumors are the Charlie Kirk stuff. You believe any of those? About how it was wasn't one man acting alone as like a network. Of the Jews? Could have Could have said any other word. >> I heard a Discord community. >> [laughter] >> But there's both? There's both, yeah. >> Discord trans ones?
0:51 And then there's the Jew one? So there's a There's one that's pretty reputable, which is that he was active in this community and he actually reached out to his community to let them know, "Hey dudes, I'll see you later. It was me." Like deuces all out and catch on the next one. Yep. So. That's confirmed. The Jews one? That's up in the air. Nobody knows anything. That's just completely Nick Fuentes online speculation stuff. But I thought he was pro-Israel. That's It's the other guy. What's his name? Uh Max Blumenthal and Dave Smith? Max Blumenthal can't influence saying that. What about that theory or the thing that Candace Owens is talking about where she got the other angle from that guy that had a camera behind him? And then the guy wouldn't give it up for some reason and then he was like, "All right, I'll call you and you can watch
1:42 it through the camera or whatever." Cool, just show us to us. And then he showed it to her and it was like there was no blood on the back, which meant the bullet didn't go through, which meant the bullet was still in him, but the authorities were saying that they needed to go find the bullet. >> Well, I guess fog of war maybe you could argue that that we don't know everything, but we saw the bullet ricochet up into his neck. So that that kind of makes sense in a way. Like with a bullet that wouldn't go through. But then for some reason there were conflicting reports saying that it went all the way through and that they had to search for it. Which was weird. I don't know. I'm not staying updated cuz I've been here for the past couple of days. I got a lot of catching up to do, but I recently saw that like 15 minutes after the shooting, he's like getting chicken nuggets or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You saw that, right? >> Yeah, Candace posted that photo. Yeah. And then I was like, >> At Dairy Queen. Why is he getting a
2:33 ████ McFlurry? It was a Dairy Queen, so you can't get a McFlurry at a Dairy Queen. >> That's true. So we want to clear that up out there. We want to clear that up. You're spreading misinformation. >> That's a misconception out there. You cannot get a McFlurry at a Dairy Queen. >> What about Did you guys read this? I don't know how it's connected, but I I think I was just skimming. You know, you can only read as fast as your thumb is going. So my thumb's just on autopilot then I just read the headline as fast as I can. But there's one about how like during the shooting there was or like shortly after the shooting a plane took off and then they took their like ████ tracker transponder thing off. >> And it was within 15 minutes I think of the of the site of the of the >> And it was its first flight and like fell along. Yeah, and then and then and then it goes back on like an hour later or something and then I think a tweet went out or something. I'm like, That's what happens when you just That's crazy. See that. I did see that. >> Yeah, there's a lot of crazy, cool,
3:23 interesting rumors throughout all of that whole thing, but Some of the ones that I saw from shooters analyzing, they think this was the exit wound and they think the bullet came from the side. Yeah, they were like talking about that window. There's that There's that like gun flash. >> Yeah. Yeah, they saw the muzzle flash. >> the side and then and then this was the exit wound, so that's why he would fell this way. Yeah, that way he slumped forward. Yeah. But Yeah, it's interesting. Who knows? Cuz we don't even know what the actual weapon is. And then we don't know >> Or grandpa's rifle apparently. Could be one of those and we don't know what kind of round it uses. So it's hard to kind of like do the forensics without knowing any of those two. The thing that makes me think like what the hell is like the claim right now is um he disassembled the rifle, went down and then put it back together, put it in
4:13 the Threw it in the woods. And I'm like, why would you like put it back together? I heard he didn't disassemble the rifle. He just like threw it. But you know the footage of him jumping off the building? Yeah, there's no rifle. >> Is that real or no? I don't know. No, that's a When I watched that video, >> released by the police. >> like he had a backpack, which to me he does have disassembled the rifle, put it in the backpack. He didn't have a rifle on >> He didn't Yeah, he didn't have a 6-ft bag with him. He had like like a regular backpack that you see him jump with and then looked like he had a straight-up concussion when he jumped off the top of that roof. >> like wrapped They said it's wrapped in a towel. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm like if he jumped off like that, then later he ████ assembled it and then threw it away in the woods. That's Yeah, weird. That makes Yeah, that's that's weird. That's for sure weird. So weird, man. What do we genuinely think cuz rumors we think are true? It's like what do we really think? Well, I mean I
5:03 could assume that like for how high-profile of a situation this is, on top of that to the point where like the president's involved in a different way or in any way that like why would they not like investigate to the fullest degree the forensics, the all the information or like use it as a tool to like benefit whatever version of how this could be beneficial for their campaign or You know, like why would there be questions or or rumors or conspiracies on like it's a different shooter, blah blah blah unless it was so high up the the conspiracy or the or the reasoning for his assassination that that's where it needs to be like hush-hush to the general public. >> mean like the the pictures like the side-by-side they got that doesn't match like this isn't the right shooter. >> Anything. Conversations about the shooter, conversations about the plane, conversations about the gun or the
5:53 muzzle flash from a different building and the exit wound or the bullet. Like it's so high-profile and in [clears throat] quote-unquote like on the side of like the president that like why why wouldn't they do the deepest version of investigation in order to put those things to rest or Maybe they are right now. It takes time. >> middle of it, yeah. I will say this. >> [clears throat] >> Is it that crazy to think given all the reaction that we've seen on Twitter and on Blue Sky and everywhere, is it that crazy to think that one person could have killed Charlie Kirk? >> No, I don't think it's crazy to think that. >> Cuz I think that there's so many people who are pretty down with that that it makes sense that maybe one guy did it. >> Like one person was just like I need to stop Hitler and then they they take it upon themselves to do it. I think always when you consider options, you always have to consider the simplest option and then you also have to consider the most
6:43 complicated. >> 100% Complicated would be some of course high up here ████ elite group of people that masterminded it or it could just be a guy that goes, "F███ that guy. He's coming to this school. I'm shooting him tomorrow." >> I I like I like the theory of this I forgot who posted it, but um it was this thing called the lone gunman fallacy where like all throughout history like people been assassinated all time and it was always very clearly this group did it. That group got hit. And then as time went on, we got to modern days, magically it's always a lone guy that's just kooky. And like the whole thing is like why wouldn't the elites eventually just start doing that rather than always like take like be like, "We did it." Like gassing up some kooky bananas person. >> Which is like a It's a That's a pretty like, you know, interesting thing to think about, but also that also exonerates any kooky guy that
7:34 can just take a shot at someone. Any of us could do that right now. You know what I mean? Like Right. So that's why I always go back to Occam's razor, which is like the simplest explanation is likely to be true because I don't need to like go to crazy kooky bananas land and bounce off different ping-pong balls on on the wall to find out somebody wants to kill Charlie Kirk cuz I saw the reaction. So many people are so like, "Let's go, brother." about it that I think that it's totally possible That helps that case a lot. But then you also think about once you get other details, that's when you start going this is fishy because in the same way that the Stephen Paddock shooting seems like the simplest thing that that guy went crazy and shot everybody. And then you hear details about how much firepower he brought up there and like all the conflicting reports of I hear gunshots coming from here. Then you start to go maybe it's not that
8:24 >> the sheriff's department. >> According to the sheriff's department, they said a lady was up there. Yep. But then they closed the case saying that he was just a lone gunman again. And a Saudi Arabian prince flew out on the same time. In a helicopter. Did you see a weird connection of all the past lone gunman shooters and then they have mugshots and they all look like weird incels with a weak chin? >> Lee Harvey Oswald basically, yeah. With a weak chin? >> Saw that. >> Yeah, weak chins is always a thing. >> Yeah. Got to watch those weird weak chins guy. It's the profile. >> Underbites. >> There's something about loners, right? That's the whole idea. >> Yeah, totally, yeah. I mean that's shooters and like most like weird mass shooters in general, same deal. Like they're not the popular guy, you know, that There's like a look. You think that changes anything now like all these guys that are doing the public speaking engagements, they got to roll with deep security or have to beef it up.
9:14 >> I think they have to, yeah. Especially drone stuff. They should use drones on all that stuff. >> wasn't there a thing about a drone, too? Yeah. That they that there was They spotted one. And like it flew off and they're like little like snapshots of this like little >> Exact time the shooting happened, it was like right overhead. Interesting. >> hand signals guy, we found out was just part of his team. His guy? Oh, there's a guy behind him that was like doing the hand >> what he was what he was doing? He uh they just interviewed him and he just said he was I don't think they asked him even about >> Touching his hat? >> He just He just said he's part of the team. >> Is he part of the security team? He was part of the Charlie Kirk's like squad. Cuz he looks like cuz he had tattoos and stuff. He looked like some like I don't know, former military. >> have been, but I don't remember exactly, but he was part of the team for sure. >> That's called infiltration. think they all lost like respect for their like security team? They're like, "Dude, you guys suck, man." I mean, a lot of the
10:04 people are saying that they have to beef up security. I don't know if they lost respect. I just think that they they understand there's a huge vulnerability now. And and that's why Ben Shapiro, he's about to do a a big college tour, but he's not doing it outside. Like it's it'll all be inside. In auditorium? Yeah. Okay. Probably set up metal detectors and all that, huh? Well, you can you can control it better. You don't have to worry about >> Less vantage points from other roofs. >> What do you think about the rumors surrounding George Zinn? Who's that? George Zinn is the old guy that that they thought did it at Oh, and they found a CP in his phone? Well, yeah, but then apparently also he was they said they they calculated the odds that he could have been at the So, he was also at the Boston bombing. He was also at Ground Zero 9/11. He was at 9/11 when it happened. And he's at this and they said there's like a one in whatever millions chance that he was that any one person could have been
10:54 at all of those. That's like 31 Atlas, dude, going to all the planets at the same time. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. That's crazy, dude. Yeah, like what what why was he there? Is he supposed to be some sort of decoy? Yeah. And he he apparently phoned in a phony bomb threat during the I think it was like either after or during the Boston bombing and got in trouble for it. There was a theory of like him like saying that it was him so he can get taken down so the security would run to him. So, giving more opportunity for the He said that. It's not theory. He said that to the cops. And that's why he's being charged with obstruction of justice. I guess the rumors are is that he's some kind of trained crisis actor or something. But who knows? Why was he in all those places? That's actually crazy. I didn't even heard that. >> He's a fan. He's like, you know, like a fan that Yeah, like right before it happened. >> Yeah, like a like a groupie like a like
11:44 a groupie girl that goes to every single concert. >> he know it's going to happen though? No, he does he just he goes to all these highly probable places that have controversy. So, it's like Boston Marathon? 9/11? Yeah. He must have been at a bunch of them where nothing happened and he's like, [laughter] "Oh, man." So, he's playing I mean, he's an old guy. It's numbers game, right? Just lock him up for life. >> And then of course people love to point out that he's also an Ashkenazi Jew. That answers everything. Take take that as you will. I don't really know the significance. I don't get that. But lots of people like to point it out. Have you ever seen that thing um I hate to perpetuate this, but it's funny. When when there's these posts about like who who's behind this scheme and then the last slide will always show uh the definition of Eastern Standard Time. You ever seen that? >> Mhm. What's Eastern Standard Time? >> You know what that means? When you Now, when you see it, you'll I'm scared. It
12:36 EST, right? They because they there's so many things they can't say on social media or else they'll, you know, people come down on them or the system will flag them whatever. But then EST means every single time. It's code for every single time. Oh, wow. That like every single time you look into a crazy situation that Usual suspects. It's that. >> [laughter] >> But I was like in the beginning I was like, "Why do they keep putting this like time zone thing at the end?" I was like, "Why do they keep saying that?" And then I'm like, "Oh." Wow. Yeah, so who knows? He could just be a old crazy guy that just happened to be at the wrong places at the wrong >> To immediately do that's pretty crazy. Candace is right, 2026. Antis coming out in 2026. Is that connected? >> [laughter] >> Are those things connected?
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