0:00 you know what's ironic though so in 20s uh I have big dreams and like there's like big things I want to accomplish but I actually don't have the skill set to do it now I have the skills that they do it I'm too tired [Music] welcome back everybody to an episode of the careful boys and today we have silent Mike back in the building Michael am I a careful boy yeah how many times yeah dogs at least 20 more times you just gotta rep it hella hard and I rep it I gotta tab it this is your moment to declare yourself well I actually had a question for you guys what is it oh go ahead do we like uh and and the three of y'all can play but Joe and Bart are the G's okay top
0:51 five JK guests am I in the conversation no no no no no not like coolest like I know you deal vonnie's a little funnier than me but I don't think you're considered a guest anymore though because we in my mind there's tears yeah we have guests yeah that is safe that is like is that a cop-out no no no so let me explain I I feel like so we have the family which is this right and then we have we have like the extended family and I think you're a part of that like like David would be extended family Colleen would be extended family Mike you guys you've been around so much like you were you guys were extended family for a minute because you were come come on so often so then I don't even see them as a guest a guest in my mind is someone that's okay like not even occasional we're probably not going to see him again like they might come one time
1:41 maybe twice I'll take that yeah yeah you're not you're definitely not the David So category I'll take that you're definitely not just a guess I'm just a guy to you guys you guys just one and done you're like the oh ████ somebody canceled let's hit up Mike that's what it feels like but I'll take it I feel like when you come on you bring the heat I'll try we always got good conversations to come on thanks you know it's easy to talk to you what would it what would they say okay this is kind of boring what's your question uh it was definitely a little deeper and more profound but we wanted to he tried to hijack it with some stupid mystical ████ top five guests of JK news what's your top three favorite fingers without the opposable you can't hold a gun oh just thought we were just talking about this right before right before the camera's rolling me and Joe was talking about
2:31 um the difference what we feel and how we might articulate the true difference between what it means to be in your 20s versus in your 30s is everybody in their 30s not ever you just turned 30. and I feel like there is a difference how about you which also means there might be some profound learning that you might have from what are you we're late 30s what are you Anthony 36 right now 37 this year so you guys are like mid yeah early late yeah yeah that's a good news yeah I'm 35 this summer because I think even within 30s there's different stages because early 30s still feel like late 20s I I saw this one Tick Tock where this chick was saying like 30s are the babies of the adults and I feel that and 20s are the adults of the babies and then she says something about 50 or 60 or 70 or
3:21 whatever but I was like oh ████ that's true because like I feel like once you're 30 you finally like really enter into the conversation with adult adults like 30 40 50 year olds like people that have like been working at a place for 20 years they they're doing adult ████ they got ████ mortgages and kids and whatever but then you're like the babies of it you know yeah like you're just starting your family just started literally so you're like the babies of the grown-ups yeah of the real girl that's true in the world how much do you think depends on like your path though because all of us I have like similar ish paths in what we did although very different categories Yeah well yeah but you know what I mean like you're kind of working for yourself in some senses you're kind of an entrepreneurial type world and I don't know everyone's story but most of us started in our early 20s on this same Journey like we haven't left this journey you know what I mean where normally people go to college into
4:12 alert sometimes 25 totally different Journey then they have like 12 different jobs till they're 30 and then they became the baby adult because they found a career versus a job where a lot of us found like careers in our 20s I think you guys but I think just life experience wise like knowing how it's like I feel like I just now can go if someone has problems with like I don't know taxes or I got 30 parking tickets now I hit collections like I've seen enough life where I'm like okay I kind of get a hold of what's what I'm saying is I think you're ahead of most yeah because people don't get that until they're 40s normally oh really I think so because so many people have like just done College in like college and even regular jobs everyone's telling you what to do your schedule and your lifestyle oh I get what you're saying we're like you had to mature early you had to learn
5:02 how to do your taxes like 23. where some people didn't yeah you know what I mean no that that's true because that's like um So within my group of employees at jumbee there's a clear difference between someone in college where it's their very first job and they never worked before versus people that uh been working since 14 15 years old and and the the they're just their intelligence might be like different right but the difference that I see clearly is the mental and physical endurance so people that's been working very very early on like they could pull a 12-hour shift or whatever yeah get her done they they don't complain they just like things are just normal whereas for people it's their first time they freak out a lot like they panic when there's a
5:52 rush they don't know what to do they can't think on their feet and it's fine because you know it's your first job you're learning but the contrast is so crazy to the point where there might be a 20 year old and it's her first job versus someone who's like 17 and the 17 year old feels like a 30 year old so I think like life experience probably does a lot to like the progress depending on how old you are but for me the difference between my own experience with 20 to 30s is 30s I feel more confident and more like relaxed yeah in my 20s I'm so um I was in my head a lot trying to prove myself I need to like do this because it was like I have to have this stuff speak for me and then I had a lot of Pride to like prove right because you're trying to like identify your your
6:43 your who you are and then you're not sure of yourself so you have to prove that hey I these are my dreams and I can accomplish them and then you become a person who can accomplish things but before that it's all Theory it's all like fake confidence in your head like oh I can pursue my things and and do what I say I'm gonna do but you can't and know that until you do it and in your 30s I think also your energy is a little bit different you save your energy at least for me like um I'm not like wasting it everywhere meaning like I would Redline everything in my 20s like whether it's a conversation or like working out or something it would be a thousand percent every time because I thought that's how you had to do it but then now I'm more like I pick and choose do I want to have this conversation do I want to spend my energy debating about
7:34 this topic with this person like how much do I want to win in this fight or whatever and I think like at this point it's it's a lot easier to like chill and think and I would say that's the biggest difference that is a big one uh we were just talking about this on the kid this podcast actually um in a similar light especially as like artists and stuff like that right like you're just a dreamer you're a ████ thinker in that way and we were talking about the idea that like in your 20s you know you feel like you can go ████ change the world you really just have that in your mind you're like I could change the world I can do some stuff you just feel like you're fresh out of college and you're like I can do some ████ and in the 30s you only give a ████ about protecting your world you know what I'm saying like your family your situation your
8:26 significant other or children or whatever just like whatever the ████ the world is happening around you we were even saying this in our text there recently right when we're looking at all the ████ scams all these ████ conspiracies going on and all it really makes you want to do is buckle down and make sure that your ████ is protected you know what I mean and I think that that was that's been a huge thing even for myself you know because I do remember the Ambitions and the dreams of being in my 20s and seeing especially even as a dancer like where I could go and what I can do and I think having those dreams does get you there but then nowadays in my 30s it's a totally different feeling it's a totally different desire it's a it is a lot of chill and think and save my energy and stuff like that but I think there's a huge shift between really believing you can change the world and then really actually only prioritizing and caring about your world because you also
9:16 realize how stupid people are I mean that's a huge thing I think in 20s like let's say you're like a fitness professional right you're like oh I'm gonna make everyone fit it wasn't feel so good and then later on in your 30s like man so you just want to be fat dude there's nothing I can do get out of my head yeah there's nothing I can like people have their own algorithm and you can literally go here's the best program here's the best meal plan here's whatever like like then this person's like get the ████ like give me the donuts because they're like all right I'm gonna just focus on myself because when you're in your 20s too you think you know what's best so you want to change the world because you want to like help everybody but some people don't want your ████ help and I think that's what I learned in my 30s is just like everyone's got their own lane so why work hard thinking that this is what they need like they don't need it that's just self-righteousness and I think like
10:07 um kind of going off of what you said right like you don't have a ton of people that you truly love in your 20s the type of friends that you make it's like drinking buddies it's like oh we ████ play volleyball together they're not real friends but the people that stick with you through your 20s and they last throughout into your 30s and your whole family your real family that you love that's when you go oh wait I'm trying to like love the world and help them and neglecting people that actually matter and I think that's a big thing in your 30s where it's like oh ████ I have this whole group that's been loving me why am I over here trying to fix these people's problems when they don't even want it I think that's a yeah that's a big part of what you kind of mentioned a lot of my stuff is a lot like Joe's like uh Pace patience and like confidence in the 20s were kind of like proof of
10:57 concept where yeah you have a little bit of that fake confidence but you can't have real confidence until uh it has result right goal hit result and then I have confidence that I can do things and so now in my 30s although in my 20s I would second-guess myself and I kind of faked it to make it now I know because of that concept worked I have more confidence to have initiative and do whatever the ████ I want you know what's ironic though so in 20s uh I have Big Dreams and like there's like big things I want to accomplish but I actually don't have the skill set to do it now I have the skill set to do it I'm too tired from the ground up it could be very successful but I'm not gonna do it I think I think I'm a little different than that because like I don't really have a
11:47 family I have my mom but I don't have a significant other I don't have kids I know most of you guys have like a significant other partner so some of my energy is still very selfish in a sense yeah um so I still feel like I can kind of Take On The World and I still have like bigger plans which is cool obviously it doesn't help my dating life because I'm ████ still kind of selfish but uh like I'm just so locked in we're like oh you guys have to be like 70 locked in and 30 to your like personal life so that's a little bit different I feel like I think it changes like family building when your mind when you're not a single guy and you're thinking about family building like I don't have kids or anything like that but if I'm thinking seriously into like my 30s and stuff then your whole set of dreams and priority change like in my 20s I'm thinking oh man I can't wait till I'm in ████ Thailand getting my dick sucked
12:37 by five girls and then on top of that we're gonna ████ we're gonna Skydive and like your dreams are like almost see the world and eat every single different ████ kinds of ████ fur or whatever right that sounds good but now I think the 30s dreams I can see myself going man we're gonna have some cool ass kids running around chasing puppies and ████ we're going to be growing tomatoes in our backyard and then your thoughts and what you desire I think completely shift depending on who your partner is too so some of that uh I can't relate to at all because I feel like my family stuff switched right away so dad died when I was 23 and my mom was in this country by herself she has no family no nothing and dad was mom had a job and she's fine but Dad was the provider so at 23 I'm like make money say Mom what do we do how do I get my
13:28 mom's Tomatoes yeah you guys you guys been a team since you're 23 for the last 11 years and and nothing else right nothing else matters so how do I work how do I provide for mom how do I provide for me and how does this last the next 50 years for myself and my mom so like I never I never want to get my dick sucked by a ████ and wherever you were headed yeah you know what I mean so that's where I meant we're like depending on where your path goes I think your brains or goals switched in different areas right or like what about the kids sense of urgency changes yeah what about the kid that never had a family in there in foster care but still are driven they probably are a different human at 17 than we were all yeah true yeah you know they probably never had an orphan yeah family yeah maybe or they never had their drinking years or whatever because they couldn't afford to so maybe they have no friends or whatever and so I feel like that person at 24 is probably me at 34. you know or vice versa and the
14:18 opposite you know I have dated people in their 30s that are ████ living a college life you know what I mean they have a set job a set life and then they just get I mean you guys know them too just get hammered every weekend because they have no other ideas of life or what to do no like real goals or initiative I do feel like though humans constantly chase a void like whatever you didn't have or what you want to recreate you constantly go through that so it's like we don't all live the same lives but generally we can't speak generally like if you're going through the system from like and you and you have a generally normal quote-unquote like family or whatever everyone progresses at the same rate sure so then it's you can kind of gauge like at this at this decade you're probably going to experience this yeah and each decade you're probably going to experience I wonder how different it was though right like because everyone's having kids so different now and it's
15:08 only one generation my dad got graduated college for whatever at 23 and automatically got a six-figure job out of college right because that's what happened back then yeah right so he moved he bought a condo in San Jose married my mom at like 24 started having kids imagine all us having kids at 24 like that's ████ I would ruin that kid's life I would ruin my own life like you know what I mean like even being married that early seems so crazy to us but I assume a lot of your guys's parents also got married early and that's that's one generation difference I think we prolong childhood now because like if you think about stories from our grandparents they were working as children yeah there weren't no ████ laws like that or some of them would be doing Apprentice work yeah and then if you hear stories about like you know people coming into America as a child in the 19 like tens or whatever like they've been working and then they become like a mogul or whatever unless college so like everyone's working at
15:58 18. yeah yeah getting into college is a crazy concept yeah it's weird not everyone and now a lot of people go to college and they don't work until their early 20s or even if that 30s bro I know people 30s their first job like the first career type job like maybe they'll do a Jamba Juice or something oh yeah yeah but like not like a job that is a good point though like it does seem that we're almost on this like exponential Evolution I don't want to say like maturity but just like Evolution as a peoples as a human species in such a way where like generation like one generation ago ████ was so different yeah that is kind of evidence to basically say that one generation from now s███'s gonna be way different yeah probably doubled you know what I'm saying so it's kind of like the taika this is what this is also one of my friends and if we put in perspective
16:48 like how long have humans been on this Earth millionaires maybe that's cool it depends on what you okay yeah what do you believe in it's like uh what do you believe I think it's like 70 000 or something well it depends depends oh wait wait uh that's farming so that's civilization I think okay so let's say 70 000 in a civilization right sure we technically only this generation and the last generation were the only generation out of the 70 000 years where we started to think about what our passions were um yeah so that's how drastic that ████ J curve is before it's just survival yeah how do I not get eaten how do I plant some ████ wheat whatever and I starve now it's like a ████ video or whatever right like it's literally that that's true I miss
17:38 ice skating I want to ice skating just this and the last generation we're the only ones be happy yeah yeah it's not crazy I mean for the most part people were just Farmers yeah yeah and then it wasn't until the Industrial Revolution where people had jobs 100 years ago that was like yeah literally a hundred years ago or so the passion work thing was like within the less last 20. yeah so before that people just worked because they needed they needed to serve what paid good yeah I think there could have been societies that that did have that but they all fell right yeah from an analytics standpoint what is the majority age demographic of our followers
18:28 uh 18 to 35. so in this generation so I know that maybe you don't relate to the 70 000 year old farmer gatherer stuff like that but in this generation Mozart mid-20s to late 20s yeah that's our that's our family you know it's a pretty very simple thing at least the way I see it for Creative is um early 20s I have an idea of what I want to be I want to do this thing and I'm good at it late 20s I did the thing early 30s hey all these other people had the same idea that I did I did that before late 30s I was that same person in my early 20s early 40s why am I broke and followed the artist's life yeah why aren't I on Tick Tock but creatively creatively it's that cycle of like you think you had this thing but everybody thinks I had a thing and then 10 years later someone else never knew you had it or did it and
19:18 it starts over it's like you can't get mad at it this is extremely pragmatic and maybe boring in terms of regular conversation but I will say there's one thing that I wish I did in my 20s that I started in my early 30s and it was literally basic saving investing because it's one of those things from a mathematics point of view if you're talking about like the year-over-year compound interest yeah the person who starts at 20 is going to be way richer than the person who starts at 30 even though it seems like such a short Gap but at 20 you're so ████ busy dreaming nobody could have told you that like you would have just not either not done it or you would have pulled your money out at some point exactly you know what I'm saying but like if at the ████ the just the young 20 year old would just do you know what I mean what the 30 year old is doing now you we'd be so much better better off one benefit of that though is like it's cool all of a sudden it's cool to invest all of a sudden it's cool it's cool to be a
20:08 business owner it's cool to work hard 18 to 35 year olds out there 35 is not too late but if you're a ████ in your 18s or early 20s yo start now when it's when it doesn't feel like you have the money whatever start in our in our 20s we didn't have access to stocks like that yeah like right now you can you needed a you need to go through Brokers you need to do that dude like yeah it was a different game the only thing we had was Certificate of Deposits at the ████ bank and you had to go to the bank yeah yeah you had to go there people used to go to the bank yeah you haven't been to a bank in so long yeah you can't just take a picture of a check and deposit I haven't been no pain you ████ gotta ████ take that ████ in there damn pragmatic but serious that's the crazy thing too is that imagine starting a savings in your 20s how many things that have happened in the past few years
20:59 would you have taken that out and reinvested into that anytime new rims came up exactly like you would have taken all that ████ out and went oh no way my inflation's gonna kill that I'm gonna put it here and then well then at least you would have learned that same lesson that some of us 30 year olds learned yeah true oh yeah oh yeah me and Joe about to be 40 next year that's crazy crazy y'all still look 20 for real that's because I'm 25. wait we're 39 now we're gonna be 39 this year oh yeah this year it's 30. next will be 40. we're about to have 40s and 30s conversations and that hat kind of make you look 50 though and then it's just the answer is gonna be I don't remember anymore we're still doing this
22:01 thank you
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