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Getting Jason Cheny's Take on the Saudi Comedy Festival

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0:00 see that street interview of this Chinese guy. He was talking about like um does China have free speech? He goes, "Yeah, it has a more free speech than America." And then the interview was like caught off, right? And he goes, "Really?" And he goes, "Yeah, can you say the n-word in America? Can you say IT RIGHT NOW? YOU CANNOT say it. [laughter] NOBODY CAN SAY IT. WHY? >> That's not fair, dude. You can't just whip that out right now." Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. Today we have Jason Channing with us. Hey, [applause] >> welcome back. Yes. >> Thank you guys so much for having me back at the Careful Boys studio every with all the all the all the boys. [laughter] >> Most of them couple >> mo most of them. >> Anthony

0:50 Steve Ken some of them. You say can >> Oh, wait, wait. Some of them. >> Some of them. Yeah. >> So, as a as a comedian yourself, what what did you think about the Riyad Comedy Festival and how like all those famous comedians went out there and some of them got backlash for accepting the uh invitation? >> Are you ready? I'm going to have a speech right now. >> Oh, hell yeah. Monologue. >> What is this comedy festival? What are you talking about? >> Oh, you didn't know about the whole controversy >> in Saudi Arabia? >> I do not know. It's a festival in Saudi Arabia. >> So, what he said, [laughter] >> well, basically, >> we're taxing. We're a duo. >> Okay. >> People are like, "How can you go to a country that doesn't have human rights and then you're paying them?" But then they also say, "You can't talk about XYZ." And a lot of comedians do say like they're all about freedom of speech, but

1:41 then if you're getting the bag, you go, "Well, I guess we won't talk about X, Y, and Z because I'm getting paid for doing it." So, it's very hypocritical. Just imagine like comparison between um leaving PGA to do live golf. Very similar like money is the only thing that can get you there. So then a lot of these comedians who maybe had views that were in opposition to this like nation now has to quell those in order to get the check. >> Depends on how big the check is. But then there are some comedians who took a very respectable stance and even though they were offered a lot of money denied going but most of the biggest comedians they took it. But but I think it's also really nice that um that if you if you wanted to have any type of conversation and to bring new

2:31 perspective I think it's really nice to even to have a relationship like if two person hate each other and then you want some sort of um amen amending one has >> to make a bridge >> to make a bridge I think comedy is the best way to start any type of uh conversation or change or whatever. Uh first and >> they're not doing comedy to ISIS. They're our allies. >> Who? >> The audience. The the the Saudi Arabian people. They're like our biggest allies. >> Oh. >> Is that what you're saying? >> I guess >> like you're doing an audience like performance to to like the terrorist groups. >> Yeah. >> It's cuz [laughter] they're Arab. >> What? John J's calling a terrorist group. Are you? No, you're not. Right. You're not calling them a terrorist group. >> No. Did you think did you think [laughter] Cuz he was like making a

3:21 speech about peace, right? Like bridging people together. Like did you think they're out there performing to like like the Taliban? >> They're probably No, maybe some [laughter] odds are there's some of them. >> Wait, you don't think you don't think Taliban can attend? Weren't you saying that most of the crowd was like Saudi Arabian >> princes or >> Well, like just people that live in Saudi Arabia that that grew up in America that came back to Saudi Arabia. >> I didn't say that. >> Wasn't we were having a conversation about it. Okay, never mind. >> Well, it definitely would probably be a lot of the affluent people that would go to that, right? Yeah. >> Yeah. But but I think that part and but I also understand people are like, oh, they they don't there's no human rights like women are treated terribly. So >> that makes sense if culturally they're out of discord. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think both is both good intention.

4:11 Both not. Okay. Oh, hold on. Let me fix it. Let me fix it. Uh the people who deny and don't go, they they're like, I'm never going to support this. >> Okay. >> But then the people who go, some of them is for the bag selfishly. But it's like okay but if you're you know for selfish and I also understand that but for I I know the other side is like oh but what at what cause? Mhm. >> Okay. And I understand that. But the people who go over there that is like just Jessica Kirstson, she is a gay comedian. Um and she went there and she got a standing ovation. And being gay is somebody, you know, they don't they don't support that at all. But then to go and then she donated her all her check um to like uh some sort of peace

5:01 group or >> So is that what you're talking about? The gay or >> you're able to bring So they're against gays, >> but And then uh but this person is gay so let's bring this person to a anti-gay place and then because she killed it now it might change some of their thoughts on >> maybe not maybe not but if you never do that there isn't going to have any effect. Yeah. You don't even have >> it's at least a try. >> Eliza try. You're trying. They're trying to do something. >> That's dope that you got a standing >> Yeah. And people that that was like in a community and people >> So are you are you going to do a speech about it right now? Do you have a >> No, that was it. Oh, >> it's pretty good. >> That was a conversation. >> One of your really close friends actually was one of the people that decided not to go, right? >> Yeah. I feel like um some of my friends who when Azico decided not to go and she's very vocal about it and um and I

5:51 think that's >> she was hired for the gig and then she denied it. >> Yeah, she denied it and um but some people but she posted about it and was like, you know, uh to towards some people. So she was like, "Oh, how can you guys do this?" But then they were pissed like, "What do you mean? How can I do it? Why are you doing this uh to us?" You know, and then she lost some friends. >> Oh man. So one of the biggest names that decided not to go is uh was what's his name? Shangulus. Shane. >> They said they offered him like seven figs. >> And Shane said no. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> But he's also like top of the game. He's making so much money. >> He's in a good place to say no. I would say >> probably he probably would lose money if he goes because that dude is killing. >> But why would why would he why would he say is is what is their stance way off?

6:42 >> You know what his joke was? This is what his joke was. He goes, "Weren't they weren't those the guys that did 9/11? They just that's all he said." And he goes, "I can't." He's like, "I can't be a part of this." That's what he said. >> And it was it's a pretty funny little joke. But this episode is brought to you by RP. The [clears throat] biggest sale ever is here on the RP Hypertrophy app. The app has a ton of new features, including ways to customize your workouts to focus on specific muscles. So, if you like adjusting your programs like me, this is perfect for you. Save up to $75 on a subscription from now until Cyber Monday. Their biggest sale ever is only happening this week, so you

7:33 don't want to miss out. Sale ends December 1st. To get special pricing, go to rpstrength.com/rpmuscle. That's r s t r e n gt h.com/rmso and sign up now. But it's true, too. That's huge. He just felt it was hypocritical. But then you had on the other hand, you had people like Bill Burr that went that just are still to this day getting slammed for it. This happened a while ago, too. >> What do you think is hypocritical about? Maybe. I don't understand. >> Oh, I don't know. It's it's it's just down to the how their their view on sensitive issues is very in stark contrast to America. >> Our views. I see >> the Bill Burr situation is that he always talks about billionaires, evil corpse, right? And I think people were mad and upset that he went over there

8:24 essentially maybe not within our government but in the Saudi government with they have tons of money in cash flow and you know they're like oh you're a ████ for money pretty much you're getting you're getting mad all these people for accepting this money and then you're doing the same thing. >> I guess it's more like it depends on what the material of the comedian normally is. So if this is a type of action that maybe seems like they would be bashing in their set normally but then they're going it it almost feels like a betrayal to their fans. Also, I don't know, but I feel like a lot of the times corporate events, they will say the same thing like, "Hey, you can't say this, can't say that." But when it comes down to the actual performance, they're very lenient. They just want to protect us. So, I feel like, yes, there's certain like religion things that you can say, and then they'll write a list. But I feel like a lot of comics still said what they want to say within the within the things that, you know,

9:14 >> with with sensitivity added to it. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I I really do believe that. Yep. >> Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, cuz they didn't didn't um Atska show a list. Was it her? One of the people that got an offer showed the list of things they weren't allowed to talk about. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think she showed it. Yeah. Yeah. >> But there are people that were like, "Hell yeah, I took the bag. It ████ paid me. I needed the money." Like, >> which you you have to be okay with it, too. No. >> Yeah. Also, it like you said, everybody's going to do something different and and kind of use that moment differently. >> Yeah. >> Like maybe some people just try to make everyone laugh. Maybe some people try to build that connection like you said. Yeah. Because what if your whole like like your whole set had nothing on that any like what if you were like a Joe Wong like a clean comedian. >> Joang deserves to go to Riion. [laughter] >> You could just perform and you're like why do I have to take a stance cuz like

10:05 they're not violating my speech. Nothing that I talk about is on the list. >> Yeah. And also Joe Wong's China they they love because I have uh there's a ton of Taiwanese celebrities who were invited that went but there were pro-China >> and the the Taiwanese celebrities who are pro- Taiwan independence they were not invited. >> Whoa. >> Oh wow. >> So it's not even just it's like the stance your stance on the world matter. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, they were they were they're like really big and you know they have power but then they weren't weren't invited but people who are in a uh less smaller status they were invited because they were pro China. >> Damn. >> Yeah. >> Well, we're pro Las Vegas. I don't think we get No one cares. >> You know what I'm saying? >> No one cares if you're battleorn, dude. >> Yeah. >> Only Vegas. >> Do you want to go to Riad next year if they >> Yes. [laughter]

10:56 >> I say yes already. >> What kind of a set would you make? >> A good one. Whatever one you want. I do it. >> You should make a lot of terrorist jokes. >> No, no, no. >> You should make a lot of terrorist jokes. >> Would you would you have the confidence if let's say uh the guy that's your liaison there that's like kind of giving you the lowdown is like hey when you get in there go really hard. Go extra crazy. [laughter] He's like really push it. Just really push it. Would you trust it? >> No. [laughter] You know what's crazy? I cuz a lot of my >> They're chill. They're chill. >> The prince loves getting roasted. Loves it. He's different. He's not like the other princess. [laughter] >> I just go go and go, "Your god's fake. >> Got a fake [laughter] god." >> And they're like, [laughter] >> they they said that Bilbur and um and

11:48 and and Chappelle, they were there and then they went from the stage directly to their jet and then they left. They didn't even like hang out or anything. >> Yeah. So that's how much they uh >> people were also getting on Chappelle for saying it was actually easier to talk about certain things in in uh Saudi Arabia than it is in America. >> Wow. I bet there's definitely >> I honestly did too cuz America's pretty sensitive about stuff. >> Also, when you think about what he has said and what he has gotten ████ for, it kind of makes sense that he could say that out there and probably get less >> cuz one of the things he got ████ for one of his specials was like some of the trans jokes he had. >> I think they would totally >> love that. Yeah. [laughter] Yeah, it's not a untrue statement. Yeah, it's true. >> You see that street interview of this Chinese guy? He was talking about like um does China have free speech? He goes, "Yeah, it has a more free speech than

12:39 America." And then the interview was like caught off, right? And he goes, "Really?" And he goes, "Yeah, can you say the n-word in America? Can you say IT RIGHT NOW? YOU CANNOT say it. [laughter] NOBODY CAN SAY IT. WHY? >> That's not fair, dude. You can't just whip that out right now." [laughter] And then the interview was like, "Can you say it in China?" He goes, "Yeah, you can say it in China. It's because no one knows what it means." [laughter] >> He's not wrong. >> You can say it in America. It's just that it's not nice to do it. [laughter] >> There's repercussions when you say it in America. >> You are saying it way more online now. >> Oh, dude. Instagram is like >> crazy. >> You can build your algorithm purely on just that word. >> Really? >> It's amazing. Yeah. The the algorithm knows you want to hear it. [laughter] It's so weird because Oh, you like that? Okay.

13:30 [laughter] >> I think like every country has their own like limits of what's culturally okay and like you can't say this and whatever [snorts] >> and then like but for us it's like we try to police everybody. You're like no, >> you got to be like us. >> Totally okay with the dis most disgusting ████ sexual ████ but zero ████ violence. >> Yeah. And to act like our government doesn't do shady ████ all over the world either, you know? It's just like it's just like a weird like stance that everyone's taking. I don't know. It just feels a little >> Hiroshima. >> Exactly. No one talks about that anymore. >> Did you just laugh at Hiroshima? What's wrong with you? >> He barely laughed. >> Thank you for mentioning that. >> I was I apologize. It was Nagasaki. >> He's pandering, dude. He's pandering. But I didn't want to say that. He goes, "Nagi didn't happen. It was only Hiroshima." >> Yeah, Nagasaki is the building seven of the bomb, bro. [laughter]

14:22 You look at them like they're the twin towers. Nah, that's building seven. Bro, >> when people measure, do do you get a little >> I'm more mad about Pearl Harbor. >> Are you still mad about that? >> What? >> That it didn't blow up more? [laughter] >> That we didn't get more battleships? >> Get him a ticket to Riad right now. [laughter] This guy's going to crush.

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