0:05 And welcome to another episode of [laughter] the Careful Boys. We got Will Pepper here with us today, y'all. Bye. Oh, she's a classic. >> [laughter] >> Joe's looking at old porn stars, by the way. Per Steve's recommendation. >> [laughter] >> Type in Joe Kelly. >> Joe Kelly. Don't even worry about it. And you have a good afternoon. >> [laughter] >> Oh, Joe was a girl. What's that? >> Joe Kelly. Jill. Jill. Joe Kelly is a risky click. It's a risky click, boys. >> I don't know. Type [laughter] in Joe Kelly and have a good afternoon. Oh, man. Let's get cute. Hey, you got like one of those I can't believe I did this as a kid story? Oh my god. Uh God, as a kid?
0:55 Probably like No. >> [laughter] >> What do you mean? >> I forgot. I don't know what what was I doing? >> got into any mischief or like broke something or did something illegal you never got caught for? Or you ever had like you go you look at your life and then maybe you had a best friend or whatever and you're like, "Damn, my life is way different than this fool's." I mean, most of them I would like I I was like forced to work a lot. Oh. >> You working at the nail salon? Oh. Yeah, I was a front desk. >> Child labor. Yeah, child labor. >> Highest earner. Damn. >> [laughter] >> That's just like you, man. When did you start child labor? >> Paid nothing at the dry cleaners. You got paid nothing? You got paid nothing, too? >> [clears throat] >> Uh in the beginning and then after I demanded money. I should have demanded >> Demanded. Oh, you had like a little union. >> Well, he probably had dirt on his the boss. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> I know what you're doing. >> He's like, "I know how to send your emails, bro." >> What are you
1:45 What were you doing at 6 or 7 at the the nail salon? It was just like setting up pedicures chairs and then offering customers water. Oh. >> And then they would just give me tip and then I slowly got promoted to like working the front desk. >> How old were you at the front desk? >> Like 12. Oh, ████ So, taking transactions and stuff and like writing appointment. Woah. >> And then I was keeping track of like we have this turn system like whoever like has, you know, like who who who gets the next customer based on the turn system. And pretty much everyone got would get paid through like whoever I gave the customer to. So, they would get really mad. Oh. If I ████ up. Yeah. And then uh But they kind of probably liked you cuz you would give people to them, right? Um well, it's it's it's supposed to be done done in like a certain way. And if I messed up, they would come up "Hey, no, it's my turn." Um Yeah, do a
2:35 whole thing. Plus they're looking at you like that's the boss's kid like I could be dad's stepmom. Yeah, there was one girl who like yelled at me cuz I messed up or something. And then my my my dad called her and like fired her. And for everybody. Then your dad's down. That's That's tight. That's tight. Yeah, and I was like but it was my fault. Oh, ████ She got fired? >> Boss's son privileges, big time. Yeah, it was well, it's because she went up and caused a whole scene and like >> Oh, yeah, that's bad. >> was yelling and stuff and then we're like bro, you Were customers around? It was busy. Yeah, that's messed. Yeah. And then yeah, it was bad. But I didn't really go out too much cuz I was just I had to work I go go go to school and work after and then the weekends I would work too. So, I was like >> Damn, dude. As a kid Yeah, I didn't really have like a lot of like I'll go go ████ around and ████ Looking back though, do you think you appreciated that? Like did it teach you Like would
3:26 you would have preferred to have a more normal upbringing get to play and stuff or do you go like that was kind of tight that I got put to work? Um I use a lot of the same skills now like if I'm doing a show and I sell merch, it's the kind of the same thing. I'm like oh, go All these little things connect. But the only bad thing I got no hoes growing up. Oh, I see. Yeah. Cuz you had no time to date. Or yeah, and I I was like so awkward. But I feel like a nail salon would get you girlfriends cuz it's like I work at the nail salon. No ████ You're like come on down for a pedicure. That's true, but I had no social cue. How how do you how do you think you ended up with like awkward social skills after being around so many people at a time? I guess I didn't know when a girl like me uh Like this girl would come every 2 weeks and I would talk to her and then it >> You're like she's a good friend. >> Yeah, I'm like she's a good customer.
4:16 >> [laughter] >> But did you get the little fluttery feelings and stuff? Yeah, I'll be too nervous to talk to her after like a few times cuz I knew that I liked her. Yeah. I would I would avoid her. >> [laughter] >> It was a small nail salon. I'll go around the ████ long way. I was like I don't know. >> Feel so ignored. >> [laughter] >> Blushes and goes to the bathroom. Yeah, go hide. There you go. Really do anything cuz if you talk, everyone can hear you. Oh. So I'm like spit and then my dad's like laughing >> [laughter] >> and then I'm like try to spit game. That's funny. He would try to set me up with this customer while he was doing nails. Oh. He's like "Look, come here. She's your she's same age as you." I was like "Oh, hi." And he's like "Yo, yeah, you guys should talk." And he just keep doing nails and I'm like uh Smooth. >> Yeah. So your dad as the owner also knew how to do all the work, too? Oh, yeah,
5:06 yeah. Oh, wow. >> Yeah, he was doing it for a long time. And all these skills, they just get like taught to the next person. Like how did he learn how to even do it? He was working at a different place like cleaning when he was first starting. And then he like he like just watched them slowly learn how himself. And then he bought, you know, opened up his own ████ And then he he copied the the the original nail salon's name. >> [laughter] >> Yo, this s███'s so viet, dude. This is ████ sick. >> He opened it like 2 miles away. >> [laughter] >> Oh, ████ >> And then customers would come thinking it's the same thing. Yeah. That's the traditional thing. Little Asian, dude. You know there's on Atlantic where Cook's Tortas is? There's a plaza that's kind of like 45 degrees to the side. Yeah. There's four like nail salons in one business park. They all started at that one. So they [snorts] literally copied the business model and they just opened
5:56 another one like literally two doors down. >> Not affiliated business. >> They're walking distance and then and then someone else does that to them and does that to them. That's ████ tight. Yeah, the breakaway. Yeah. No franchise, just steal idea. They don't even move across town or nothing. Just the same spot. Yeah, it's so close. And then my dad's name was Andy and the place is called Tony's Nails. >> [laughter] >> So it's still called Tony's Nails? What? >> He's like ████ it, I'm going to just copy the whole thing. [laughter] >> [gasps] >> People would go and they would they would call him Tony. He'd be like, "Yo." We're like, "Who?" >> [laughter] >> He would just He goes with it? >> Yeah, he just rolled with it. >> Just full identity theft. Why wouldn't he? Yeah, he's like, "If you pay, it's fine." He gets the same car, Tony's Nails, >> [laughter] >> cuz he cuz he worked at Tony's Nails.
6:46 Yo, that's ████ crazy. The whole thing. Yeah, so I don't know. What's What's the What's the Tony's Nails that he took the name from? Was that guy even Tony or did he jack that, too? >> god, that's a good question. He probably wasn't. It probably wasn't, huh? That's probably He probably jacked it three nail salons ago, too. Yeah. [laughter] Guy's name with nails is bold, too. Right. >> Yeah, Tony's Nails. Yeah, right. Like, yeah. But it was cracking, right? >> Nails or something. Yeah, any chick name. Dang, dude. Nail salon really is a good business, huh? Would you say? >> All cash. Damn. And was he doing funny stuff with the money? Dude, yeah. Like tax Like yeah. Allegedly, allegedly. >> Yeah, for sure. And that taught you how, right? So now you do it, too, huh? Yeah. He still does it? Um he sold them To Tony? Before COVID, yeah. To Tony,
7:37 back to Tony. >> [laughter] >> And now he just works at a nail salon. That's a lot. like, "I don't want that responsibility." >> Yeah, he's like, his friend's place. 900 Gs? I can't be ████ employee of the month every month, dude. >> [laughter] >> 100 Gs is a lot, dude. Yeah, it's crazy. Is 900 Gs like the top month? I think so. Oh, top top top year for sure. Wow. And then in like Phoenix, you know? It's like a lot of people Oh, so you didn't have a nail salon in in uh Utah at all? No. Oh, that's all Phoenix. Your dad ever get into crypto? Actually, yeah. You know what's so funny? If you go to any nail salon now and it's slow and they're all sitting there, I I bet money that they're all doing crypto or sports gambling or on Facebook or live streaming. Live streaming? That's like Vin's Hair Salon. Oh, yeah. They all They all got new like
8:28 crypto >> Everybody's just hitting a e-vape and then they got like their second Android phone that's just on the counter watching ████ market charts, ████ candles and ████ They're like, "What the f███?" Screwdrivers, too. Hey, Mike, you ever heard of XRP, man? >> [laughter] >> EDM's ████ playing on a video on the TV at like 10:00 in the morning. It's crazy. Actually, I I go to Vin's Hair Salon, too. Oh, you do? Hell yeah. Now, how bro? Yeah. Are you going to the new one? It's a new one now, yeah. The new one? Oh, they moved? >> They moved and it's ████ balling. It's tight. They finally moved? >> They finally moved. It was crazy. They got a back VIP room. That's where we can go back and drink, but >> They're still on Valley? Or no? Oh, it's where like basically Main Street. It's like where the ████ closest to the movie theater. It's just like down the block. To all these people, it's the SGV staple since me and Joe were in high school. They've been cutting everybody's hair,
9:20 gangsters, it doesn't matter cops, it doesn't matter who you are. It was like the most most like treaty, peaceful place you could be during the warring '90s and 2000s. Yeah. Damn, it's crazy. Yeah, it's I go there like like once a month or something. How did you find out about it? I I I live pretty close to today now. Oh, no way. So, it just popped up. Actually, I saw you on the picture. I was like, "Oh, ████ It must be good." Oh, I went there for his picture? Yeah. I was like, "Oh, yeah. If you go there, must be good." >> I went there I went Are you banned or something? I know. I probably went there for like 10 years or more, maybe. That's tight. >> Yeah, that place is OG. Yeah. He saw him He saw you on the picture. >> [laughter] >> Because you have a good haircut. >> of like pictures. >> your haircut. >> No, they don't. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, he probably saw it on like IG or something, huh? Like a good like the Google Google photo there. Google photos, yeah. Oh, that's tight. I thought it was like an example of a haircut you want. Like give me the
10:11 Barkquon. >> [laughter] >> Even if I don't ask for the Barkquon, they still give me the Barkquon. Like >> To tell the truth, yeah. They got like the default fade. >> Yeah, can I get a low fade? Okay. High fade. Every time. >> [laughter] >> I was like, "All right. This is fine." If you ask for the Steve, they just ████ your hair up. >> [laughter] >> Okay, ████ That's dope. I'm happy to hear they're still in business. Yeah. They're doing well. They're like you should for real check it out one day and be like, "Wow." Cuz I I've been going there for over like 12 years, too. So, finally see a new spot, you're just gen like you kind of grew up with these dudes. You're like, "What the f███?" >> That's tight, yeah. I did. >> what's random as hell is my old man, after his medical business went down, he bought like this nail printer thing and he started a business where he was like printing like designs for ████ for their nails. Your dad did that?
11:01 >> Yeah. He did it for like a couple years. >> think to do that? It was like a new thing that had just come out. And so, he tried two things. He like First, he he started a bean bag business and that like wasn't doing up great. A bean bag? Like Yeah, like selling like bean bag chairs, like the big bean bag chairs. And then so, that one didn't do great. But he used some of the money for that to buy this nail printer thing. Have you seen that thing before? It's crazy. Like you can print like intricate designs on people's nail beds. >> Oh, snap. It's like sick. And then you just glue it on? It like prints it directly on the nail bit. Directly on your what? It's crazy. He did that for a couple years, yeah. I do feel what Bobby was saying though, like do you feel like in hindsight you're like I'm glad I went through that, but then I feel like if I were to think about that too cuz my dad was putting me on my parents put me to work at the dry cleaners. I'm like I ████ would way rather have just a regular kid childhood and just hang out play on the streets. Yeah, you want to
11:51 be a regular kid? Yeah. I mean like sure, it taught me the value of hard work because I have no other ████ option. But also at the same time it's like the trauma, right? It's like you you come with a lot of dope tools, but then you also have like all this trauma that you're probably trying to like figure out stuff. Even way way less dramatic than that, there's also just like pop culture experiences and references that maybe you weren't just like a part of with that everybody else participated. And then 30 years later people are like yo this is so sick and retro, remember that? And you're like nah, I was working at the dry cleaners. I skipped that whole era. I didn't have those things. That happened to me with music cuz my parents listened to talk radio only. So like Nikki's like oh you know this song this song bangs hard and I'm like I don't know this song, sorry. You know all the NPR discu- >> Exactly. It's exactly. >> know all the politician names and stuff. >> I know, but exactly that's the trade-off. >> They would listen to talk radio? >> Only talk radio all the time. Oh my god.
12:43 So you just had AM you didn't know what FM radio was. >> I knew what it was, but we never listened to it. >> Freaking sucks, dude. Nikki's like oh yeah, this is Sublime and I'm like I'm sorry, I don't know who that I don't know that. >> Oh my goodness. That sucks. Was that crazy? That was like an era of music. >> Radio was like hell back then. Yeah, as a kid. Oh yeah. For a kid it was pure hell. And it's scratchy. Like audio's not even clear on AM. Yeah, it's like you hear them talking, but there's a layer of like Yeah. It's like they're transmitting from the moon. Yeah. Oh my god, that's so Imagine like listening to walkie-talkie radio. Dude. But you know I know who Janet Reno is, so >> [laughter] >> Does she sound hot? Definitely not. >> sound hot though? It is really great. >> [snorts] >> It is really great. He looked exactly [laughter] like her.
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