0:00 A part of me goes, "Nah, but they're not as good as I am." And then so I become it and I'm and then me and Hannah are just like, "Yeah, but was it worth >> all of that?" >> Well, at least you can think of it like number one June is almost like number 5,000 Boba Time. >> Yeah, bring that dog out. Bring that little she out of you. >> Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. Today we have Nick the ear with us. >> And we have Mike the silence. >> I thought you said something really interesting earlier. You were asking Bart if he still has that dog in him. >> You got that dog in your dog. >> These are the kind of the conversations Bart and I have when we're lifting weights. >> Well, you guys are lifting. >> Swear to God. >> Middle of needing that dog. We were putting his gym together and we started
0:51 talking about it. I was like, "Yo, I got no dog in me. >> Zero. You have zero dog." And >> you used to though. I used to be a Rottweiler. >> Yeah. No, I used to be like the German uh >> When were you? >> My whole life until I think there's multiple things that brought it down. And not to get sad, I think uh my best friend passing took it down a little bit. Dad passing took it down a little bit, but also the outward pressure of the world at that time not wanting me to be a dog. They wanted me to be a pussycat. And then it happened. They wanted you to conform. >> So, is that what happens to straight white men? They get pushed down. I think I got pussified. Let's >> say you had a um >> by mail. >> Let's say you had like a coach of some sort for a team and he was able to channel the dog. >> Custom motto comes back. >> Exactly. And you get positive reinforcement the whole time. You think you would be more dog than ever?
1:41 >> 37 now. You know, you >> said you got your tea test and it's pretty high. >> It's high. It was like 730. >> It's not bad. What was yours? >> 300. >> Cuz I got no dog either. >> Yeah, that's why. >> Well, I thought low test is high dog cuz they got a lot. Oh yeah, >> cuz the little mask. >> No, that's just that's just small ████ >> Oh, >> that's probably where I got mine. >> The tea, if you inject it, it's immediate dog in AN HOUR. LIKE >> really >> cuz the tea is what gives you the aggression. >> A lot of guys tell tell me, you know, and who knows, right? Cuz it's like a heroin addict's going to tell you heroin's awesome, right? But all the steroid guys say like you're missing out on the mental benefits. Like you feel so confident of having high tea. >> Yeah. Little ████ doesn't bug you. You could brush off other dudes opinions >> cuz you're a big alpha male now. >> But I don't know if I want that either cuz I do think empathy is a good power, you know. >> Having tea makes you no empathetics. >> Yeah. Mike Israel talks about some funny
2:32 ass ████ like crying out mountains and ████ when your tea starts to dump. >> Oh, cuz if you think think of the alpha in the pack, right? If this lead wolf is supposed to lead the wolf to ████ food and water, this fool can't be going around listing all the wolves feelings and ████ >> You got to dominate and conquer. When you think of every stereotype between male and female, that's driven by testosterone. Like that obviously the chromosomes and there's other things involved in bone structure, but testosterone is the the defining factor, you know, like women have it, but it's like 10. Like I said, mine's 7:30. >> For you, Nick, do you feel like you have that dog in you? Speaking as a man of high tea, >> I don't think I have high tea, first off. >> Have you got it tested? >> I haven't got it tested. I should >> The machine go. >> You should all get it tested. >> You think you think I have high tea? Really? Why you smiling? Why' you do that, dude? It makes me feel like you're lying. >> No, you have it.
3:22 >> Hey, but if you're in the normal range, isn't it something like it doesn't matter as much? >> So, the the >> So, like whether you're like five or six, that 100 doesn't matter. >> So, it it does and doesn't the the biggest way to know is if you get it tested like every 3 years your whole life. So, even Bart being 300, if he was 300 when he was 18, not a big deal. But if he used to be 700 and now he's 300, maybe a deal because like how that's just like free flowing. So, like if it if your uptake's still good, like yeah, a dude could be full chest hair jacked and have 300 his whole life. >> Yo, I think I have low teeth. >> They have the opposite though. >> I have no hair on my body. >> Are you willing to place a bet? That's also like ethnicity too, but test has something to do with that. >> Yeah, Chinese people are dolphins. >> Are you willing to go on Khi and like bet the under on your teeth? >> I'm going to start taking some tonat ali and ████ >> Do you have no dog though? >> I think I'm losing it. >> Did you ever have Oh, you so you have
4:12 dogs? I think I I think I had dog in me when I first started like fighting and stuff >> when I started fighting doing MMA and doing all that and then slowly I just was like it just kind of died out of me, man. I just felt and it's kind of like what what Mike said where we talked off camerara about it. He was saying a lot of people around him was saying like, "Oh, you're ████ you know, you're cocky. You're you're you know, you're you're hurting people. You're being this kind of you're being abrasive." And I feel like sometimes like hearing that stuff will make you kind of go like, "Oh, maybe I shouldn't be doing that." That happened to me a lot. >> But like that just becomes mature when you're not stubborn and you're just like, "Oh yeah, ████ I pick and choose my battles." Right? Like you can still have a dog where you're smarter with and calculated with your fight, right? >> I I still think I was like I wasn't like starting fights or I wasn't into like >> any kind of trouble. It's just like just the that's like what the world everyone would say like, "Oh yeah, he's the
5:02 hotthehead. He's the cocky one. He's the whatever." And I'm like, that's not good, right? Or like how they would say it's negative. >> Is jacking off a very low tea behavior or high tea behavior? >> Probably high tea if you're that horny. >> What interests me is fighters >> cuz you're anxious you jack off. >> Or if you're just bored >> or we're just apes, that's why you jack off a lot. >> The a fighter dog interests me because I've interviewed obviously and obviously you guys have too a bunch of UFC cats and whatever and cuz there are some that are the dog but they don't like have the dog, you know, like a GSP. >> Oh, interesting. learn how to have the dog. >> They're almost like too zen. Or even like the guys that really treat it like a sport, you know, >> more more technical. >> Yeah. And and like they they don't want to hurt you. They just want to win and they win, but they're not like that competitive. They're not the Kobe face. >> Yeah. They're not trying to eat you. >> Yeah. You know, the they don't have the Mamba. That's kind of the LeBron James versus the the Jordan, right? Where like
5:54 Jordan is the dog where LeBron you never really said like, "Oh, he's a dog." But he still gets it done. And I feel like fighters fighters are black and white like that. I've interviewed a bunch that are like, "Damn, that guy's like, good thing he found MMA cuz he'd be a serial killer." And then the other ones are like, "Man, that guy's so zened out. He's so channeled." >> One's a samurai word, the other one's got rabies. >> Yeah, kind of. Yeah, kind of. >> But I feel like some of those guys, like GSP is a good example. I feel like I've heard him talk about it where he goes, "I hate fighting. >> I hate doing all that stuff, but I love the prep and like the the training for the event." >> He cries in the warm-up room every fight. That's crazy. >> He's thinking all that ████ It's like the vibes he gets where >> he's the Incredible Hulk. Yeah, >> I ain't a killer, but don't push back. He says like when he goes and fights, he has to turn it on. So, it's like I think it's like a switch. And I feel like I've heard a lot of like highle athletes like the Kobes where they talk about like you do have to put a mask on. Like you kind of have to be a different person when
6:46 you're competing because especially for like a fight sport. You there's no other way cuz it's it's a literal battle against wills. >> You could be the best guy in the world, but if the guy wants him more than you, he's going to beat your ████ ass. >> But then what about Ian Gary? like, you know, you're like that guy just wants to ████ break someone's skull. >> Yeah, he's he's one of those guys where he's actually not that good, but he has the dog. He's going to find a way to win. >> He just pushes. If he didn't find MMA, he's in the bar beating up everyone. Like there's some guys where I feel like they find a way to win. Like Ian Gary's one of those dudes where like on paper he like you want him to be knocking guys out, but he just finds a way to win just because he edged you out in like those three rounds, right? I try to find a way to lose. >> Yeah. >> That's how I know I don't have the dog at all. Like for jiu-jitsu, like and we talked about this for jiu-jitsu, like when you're training, like my more important worry is like the environment in the room rather than if I got beat up or
7:36 not. Like >> Oh, okay. >> Like if I get beat up, it's fine. It is what it is. >> Yeah, me too. I don't mind getting beat up, bro. It doesn't matter. >> My coach like, "What the ████ are you doing?" I don't mind. >> What about 15 years ago, Bart? 15 years ago, would you mind getting beat up? >> Oh, yeah. That's different. I definitely feel the Cuz even when I used to work out, >> but you're not trying to be a pro champ. I would go in even working out, I would go into like an insane place. Like I'm trying to save my mom from ████ falling off a cliff, you know? Like I was like way more crazy. >> Now I was just like, "Oh my oh mama, let go." >> I hope there's a trampoline down there. Still, you do your daily workout still, right? >> Yeah. >> So you're still completing the amount of reps and everything that you have to do. You're just doing it with less ferocity. >> Way less ferocity, way less intensity. It's Yeah, it's different. It's like one it's like >> you're listening to reggae >> one like making food for the kids you know >> and the other one's like oh I want to
8:26 make the best pizza ever >> I'm literally listen to R&B and now where I used to like used to listen listen to 90s it's the same amount of working outish way less I don't go as hard as even Bard anymore but >> but like I used to listen to Eminem kill his mother Eminem you know where where now it's literally it's literally like ree and like soul >> but how much of that though is your education your wisdom cuz like working out has changed And then back then everyone thought you had to go like crazy ham gains, right? Where now you're like it's smarter to do like 80% and then do it longevity style and then like even with fighting like everything is more technical now and then the guy that comes in try to be macho is actually the ████ right and then like how much of it is like teenage angst, teenage anxiety and frustration. It is. It is pro probably all of that.
9:17 But I can tell with myself and so if we go like really nerdy, right? Like everyone knows submaximal training is better. But if I take myself and like let's say a modern-day like powerlifting champion, if on our program both of us have 60% to do it that day, that guy's doing 60% with a,000% intensity. I'm doing 60% with 60%. >> 55 >> 55. So I can feel that it's I can feel that it's different. So, when did it change for you guys? >> Like what? >> The big the big change was yeah, early 20s. That's why I think a lot of the outside pressure and then yeah, maybe my pops passing away and my best friend passing. But then like the it's gone is probably like 28 cuz that's the last time I was like I got really fired up for some deadlifts or something like music hitting you, you know, and you're like, dude, I'm going to ████ run through this wall. Like I haven't felt that. Yeah, probably almost 10 years.
10:07 >> Wow. >> And I think the longevity is part of it. Like I don't think you can do I mean I literally the first time I bench pressed was eighth grade. I was 12, you know, or 13. I'm 37. Like I don't think you can do it at that level. >> Yeah. Like it's it's just impossible. And that's why most people do it like that and then they quit. >> Yeah. >> A lot of people I know like that even lifted or were in shape, >> they're all fat by their 45. >> I would argue that like if we said, "Mike, you're going to do a deadlifting competition in 3 months. The dog's coming out." >> You'd have to have a gun to my head. I wouldn't do it. Bart Bart forced me to do the last one. >> You had to do it. I feel like he just said, "You're doing it. We're doing it in Barb." I was like, "All right, man." I didn't want to. >> How did you How did you do? >> Not great. >> Medium. >> So, what about the la the last time he pulled 700? >> Did you have a dog while training for that or >> that that was like the last time I can remember getting fired the ████ up. I
10:57 had like Eminem in my head and I want to punch anyone in my way. Yeah, that was probably the last time. >> You guys probably do have that dog in you for proving you don't have a dog in you. >> You work so hard. I got more doggy works for real over a debate or something. Yeah, >> you're kind of slam dunking it. >> Yeah. >> You lazy. No, I'm lazy. I'm ████ out lazy. >> I'm way lazier than you. >> Yeah. I don't know. That's why like cuz like boxing and jiu-jitsu all sounds so cool, but I'm like, dude, like if they just even get me a little bit, I don't want that. Like it sounds so pain. >> What if it's changed into other interests? Yeah, >> cuz that's I see myself not caring about certain things that I used to care about, but other things that I didn't care about are now making me >> want to ████ win. >> I think there but the intensity is still lower. >> Business. I didn't care about business before. >> Yeah, I'm like that with business and
11:47 money, but but the intensity is not there. Like it's not like I'm going to do this no matter what. >> Yeah. I'm like dogless everywhere. >> Yeah. With basketball, I was going to do whatever it took to win this game. Like I had a goal. This is going to sound psychotic, too. junior year or maybe sophomore year, I was playing up in varsity. I think it was sophomore year. I was like, "My goal is to bleed every game to prove the team like I'm going ████ do this." Like, I'm I'm jumping into bleachers, saving balls, getting pegged in the head by the bleacher. Like, I didn't give a ████ I was going to do whatever it took, >> you know? But now, >> I want to win now, but like >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't I don't know if I don't know if I have anything in my life where I'm like, >> I got to give it 100 million%. That intensity. >> How does something like happen, right? God forbid Ta Gio. That would probably flip that switch. >> Like the whole like like leg stuck under a car thing and mom throwing the car. Yeah, that's true. Your family dog is in
12:38 you. >> Yeah. You know you know what's worse though? What's worse than not having a dog in you are those people that have a dog in them and they've never applied it to anything meaningful. So they're just constantly doing everything too hard. You know what I mean? Like if you're just like playing a little game, like a little board game, and they're just like trying to win it really hard at in a social setting. Those are people that never got the dog applied to something good. Yeah. >> Applied that, you'd be so successful at something. >> But it's not even satisfying when no one else is competing. You know what I mean? Like, well, to me, that's just like kicking kids, right? >> Also fun. >> Here's a toddler. Let's ████ kick it, you know? Yeah. At least you guys like ran your dog out. You know what I mean? Yeah, he was used. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I have things that I don't want the dog
13:30 to come out in that makes me prioritize that thing. >> You sound like those guys that are like, "Don't make me mad." >> Like, >> like for for example, like we're by far the number one Ji, right? >> Yeah. >> And I don't ████ want to care about being the best one. >> Isn't that part of business? That's why I don't want to do it anymore because it's like w it's like you're winning in something >> that you don't want to spend so much time on but it's like >> Oh, I see. I see. >> But my I can't stop doing it >> cuz it's not like an interesting hobby. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I see. >> And I don't want to do it. But it's like I don't know. Not Not that I don't want. It's like I don't want to spend as much time as I do on it, but I can't help myself from doing so much when I want to balance my life. >> Yeah. >> Right. You want to be the number one? Like, do you look at number two and go, "I'm going to beat you. I'm going to ████ beat you." >> When I hear the numbers a little bit
14:22 when I hear what how everyone else is doing, a part of me goes, "Nah, but they're not as good as I am." And then so I become it and I'm and then me and Hannah are just like, >> "Yeah, but was it worth >> all of that?" >> Well, at least you can think of it like number one June is almost like number 5,000 boba time. >> Yeah. Jo, bring that dog out. bring that little sheoo out of you. >> There's that sheoo. >> But what I I I think to kind of like >> I wish I had it in things that I wanted to do like write a book or maybe make a movie or like I didn't have it >> creatively. >> No, it's in weird it comes out in weird things that I don't even want like when you're wiping your ass or something. I'mma wipe it so ████ clean. So I showed you tissue paper. ████ >> I wish I could control that.
15:13 >> Yeah. Like, why do I want this so bad? >> Dog comes out of me when I clean, when I do chores at the house, like when I'm washing dishes. >> Oh, there's a stubborn stain. If there's a stubborn, I'mma ████ soak your ass. I'm going ████ kill you. >> I'll be back in 15 minutes.
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