0:00 You did it. >> Eat my thing. Um, we can call uh child protective care services. >> Smart, smart, smart. >> We can call somebody. >> We'll figure this out. Someone to call. >> Probably animal cruelty. There's got to be somebody on that list. >> Probably voiding your Toyota warranty. We'll call Toyota. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Smog check. He probably hasn't had a smog check in years. Like he doesn't wear shoes. >> And welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. We got Subin back here with us, y'all. Oh, Subie, >> welcome back. Subie. >> Yes, sir. >> We was talking about Joe. You want to talk about why people join the military? >> Yeah. I'm always curious like, you know, I hear it from everybody from family members, everyone. They're like, man, it's crazy the collection first the how different humans are in there, right? Cuz most people they socialize with the same kind of people, the mind culture,
0:50 >> and then so so that's that's a different conversation. But even before we even get there, like I'm always curious about why people join. Like I know why you joined, you know, I know why my friends join, but like when you're in there, what kind of people did you meet? And like why did they join? >> Yeah. Let me let me let me make this clear first though. Like um just cuz you join the infantry, it's not because you're ████ or dumb. You're going to have a lot of them though. Okay. >> But I don't think anyone knows that unless you're military. >> Yeah, that's true. cuz like as like if I didn't know military people, I wouldn't think infantry was the like everyone jokes about them or like I would think they're the most badass cuz they're the ones going out shooting and like dying and ████ like you know what I mean? So that's the outside world. I think like the military world cuz once you go to
1:40 the recruiting office, every job has avab score attached to it. >> Mhm. >> And then infantry has the lowest. >> Yeah. >> So you're like, "Oh ████ if I get a 35, I could still be infantry." >> But people don't know what an ASVAB score. >> They don't It's like a military SAT. And then there's other ones like cyber security or whatever. You probably need like a hundred or whatever. And you're like, "Oh, though these guys are really smart." >> Well, the stigma is like if you're the if you you're the like you could be the dumbest and you you'll be in the infantry. That's why everyone thinks, "Oh, you're you're dumb. Oh, you scored hella low," which Yeah, it happened to me. You know what I mean? But still, >> so you reinforce the stereotype. So if you if you scored low, that means you can't do the other jobs, right? So that's why the the whole like if you're infantry all the dumb asses go there. >> Yes, that's true. It is very true. It's not necessarily because you're also dumb. It's just no. It's been a while since somebody went back onto those just a simple test. But there I met a lot of
2:31 guys with 90s and 85s join the infantry. >> Yeah. Cuz at the same time to go special ops, >> you need to have like 90 or above >> and then so those guys still have to go the infantry route still. >> Mhm. But some some guys didn't they don't even want to think about SF or anything like that. They just joined it because they just they rather be an infantryman than any other MOS. >> So So why do when you met people in there like why do people join like all the different reasons? >> No dude the the amount once you get more settled in and less training like um the people you met I asked them like what was your reasons? A lot of the kids joined because of some of them joined because of citizenship, >> right? >> So there's a lot of non US. >> Absolutely, dude. Half the platoon kind of was like the Puerto Ricans was there, the I mean the Puerto Ricans are citizens, but um the the the Ecuadorian
3:23 dudes, the Mexican dudes, they all joined because they wanted to be have a citizenship. And the Brazilians, >> but the fast track to getting >> Yes. Fast track and it's a guarantee >> half of your boot camp. That's a lot. Well, well, half like, >> let me just say 40% of >> That's a good amount, though. That's a good amount. I met a lot of Jamaicans, >> uh, Nigerians, >> um, African-Americans, like from Africa, like uh, what do you call it? Kenya and all that. And then, um, >> a lot of Hispanic people with, um, citizenship issues. So, that's why they joined. So they told me, they explained a lot of these kids don't even realize how lucky they are to even be a citizens in America, like to grow uh to be born citizens. So we were just having that conversation and then there's people who are about to be homeless or who don't even have houses um to come home to. So that's why they join active duty.
4:13 >> So like they don't got family or they just they just >> they have families but they they're not you know they don't support them. And some of them, some of them, like I met the 17-year-old, they said, "Um, my mom's not in a good financial rate. The housing is s█████." >> I can't take care of it. You better go figure it out. >> Yeah. Exactly. The mom can't take care of them. So, the kid decides to do this to uh take care of their family. >> Wow. >> So, you meet a lot of honorable kids, >> like the 17 year olds. But, hey, but he's still young and with that mentality. Wow. >> Yeah. >> Good on you with that mentality. But during training, you're still a ████ Like, there's a lot of ████ boot camp you meet like every corner of the world where like you know when you live in a certain city grow up in a bubble and you think your hardship is hard but then you meet people like you know like Eminem and 8 Mile >> where like his mom's like I'm kicking you out cuz I want to ████ my boyfriend in the trailer. >> Yeah. >> And then you meet people like that and
5:03 then you're like oh ████ damn people's lives are actually ████ hard >> where they have to go my mom wants to ████ her boyfriend so I can't even live at home so I have to go make something of myself. >> Yeah, dude. And it was just like a lot of those really honorable mentions. is um just like these kids. I was like super motivated, dude. >> I was just like, damn, bro. >> Cuz it's survival. >> Yeah. >> You're not just doing it cuz you're like, I want to buy a a ████ stingray. >> No. Hell, you know, I I >> What did you tell people about why you're there? >> You wanted a Tacoma. >> My family, dude. You know, I told him like tryare family citizenship. I got my citizenship, you know. >> That's right. You're You're that >> Yeah, I was one of them. So, you know, we had the OSET like they were doing UCI. So, I was part of that. So, a lot of the kids green cards were expiring, so they were like, "F███ it. Join the ████ National Guard." And now they're
5:53 good. You know what I mean? And then, uh, >> that's awesome. >> Are you a citizenship now? >> No, I'm in the process and everything. They They wait. I'm in line. I'm ready to go. >> I can still call ICE on you. >> No, you can't cuz I got my cat card. >> I'm Gucci, baby. >> You did it. >> Eat my thing. >> Um, we can call uh Child Protective Care Services. >> Smart, smart, smart. >> We can call somebody. There's definitely >> we'll figure this out. Someone to call. >> Probably animal cruelty. There's got to be somebody on that list. >> Probably avoided your Toyota warranty. He'll call Toyota. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Smog check. He probably hasn't had a smog check in years. Like he doesn't wear shoes. >> We just want to take a second look. >> Dude, you know what's even crazier? Some just joined because they want to be an infantryman. And then I was like, so I was just like, damn, dude. I'm proud of you. But but it sucked because you know while in training that one of the parents died. Yeah, dude. That was I couldn't You know, people people talk about parents
6:44 and grandpas dying when they're in basic. >> And I I was just like that's crazy. >> And they can't leave, right? >> It depends. They call Red Cross and then Red Cross would send them out, tell the commander. >> But I had a homie I had a homie who um >> he was joined. He was like 32 years old. And then while he was in training, the dad was super sick. He got admitted to the hospital. Okay. He had like punomi or pneumonia or something. And then during holiday block leave, he goes there to check on him. Everything's good. And by the time he comes back to Oset, dad passes away. And he gets a letter from the mom saying like, "Hey, the dad wanted to see you one more time before he passed away." >> ████ >> Yeah. So the whole time the dad was hanging on, >> that's ████ crazy. >> Hanging on to his life to have holiday
7:35 block leave, see his son one more time. And soon as he came back from Oset, dad passed away. >> Now I can go. >> So he wrote one more letter. >> He he didn't he didn't even tell his homie. He wrote a letter, sent it. So by the time he came back to uh from Holiday Blockley, he got that letter and then he passed away. >> Wow. >> How do you time your death like that? >> That's tough, >> bro. I was just like, what the ████ And he has to come back to kids singing Bad Bunny. He has to come back off in the shower. >> Yeah. Jacking off in the shower. He has to come back to kids fighting at night. He has to come back to us just get So imagine getting smoked some cuz some kid ████ stole I mean brought food back from the cafeteria and your dad's dead. >> Like crazy. Yeah, that's nuts. >> And then the girls like, "Yo, I'm I feel
8:26 so sorry for you, but at the end of the day, we need to get this training done. I'm so sorry you lost your dad, but we need to get this training done. >> Sorry you lost your dad. Hit the ████ line, trainy. >> No. Yeah. He's like, "Hey, I'm sorry. What you're going to >> He did say sorry." >> No, he's Yeah, of course. >> I've never heard a drill instructor say sorry. >> Well, these Well, think about these jars have empty, you know. I mean, like at the end of the day, they're there to do their job to make you an infantry man, right? They're not going to be a ████ their whole life. So, I'm sorry you went through that, but I need you to do the Y squat. The Y squat. And then the whole time you're getting smoked, you know? So, it was just like a It was just crazy, man. Boot camp's crazy, man. Everyone's reasons different. Some are there, just they don't know why they're there. >> You said uh I think you told me someone off themselves in the middle of >> Yo, like I got time. Um
9:18 the the >> for people that don't know what OSET is, can you also explain what OSET stands for? >> One station unit training. So a lot of other jobs once again basic then you go off to your school >> to your job school. >> OSET is one station unit. So you're there. It's like jail. you're there six months, you know, six months straight of just ████ intense physical training. And OSA is mostly for mostly for combat uh roles, combat jobs and sand. We're at Sand Hill, which is just like a f███████ of hills. But um that's what it is. >> And then what happened to the guy that's that off? >> Oh, yo, so I guess you know it's it's it's rough, dude. You know, kids over there bullying. It's not allowed, but you're bullying people every day. You know, it depends who you are. You bully people, they don't give a ████ about your feeling. Nobody gives a ████ about your feeling. Let's be honest, right? So, imagine that. And imagine what's
10:10 happening in the bay between your your your your friends and then imagine going to training and you're sucking ass, you know? And then we had kids like try to off themsel >> in boot camp. >> In boot camp, >> multiple >> like just um we had like two kids. >> How did they try to off themselves, >> bro? We had a dude grab a PT belt, put it around their neck, and try to hang it on top of a bathroom wall uh ceiling and jump off the toilet. >> And then when he fails, is everyone laughing at him or like how does that >> No, like when when he didn't >> just handing him a stronger rope, >> the freaking George saw it, kicks down the stalls and just grabs him. And then um when he fell, we can't really say nothing because we're just like, "This guy's going through some real ass s███." And then there's some kids where he go like we don't we know he's quitting. It's like for this some kid he was he
11:01 was about to quit and he's like sitting down. He's not doing any more training cuz he's quitting. So a lot of us would go past him and go like go kill yourself. You know that's the ████ that's the bullying. That's how unhinged it is. He's like you're a weak ass ████ You don't want to complete training. Go kill yourself. And he goes like hey guys why you guys so mean? Shut the ████ up. Go kill yourself every day. >> So it's like Xbox live chat. >> Yeah it's just it's literally a live chat. super unhinged. And then um but this kid, man, I'm not going to say his name, but this kid, bro, I felt bad for him because the recruiter sent him to something he shouldn't have been. >> Oh ████ >> Oh, so it's probably the recruiter's job to kind of filter people out. I see. >> I really think some recruiters should have sent specific people to somewhere else's >> because when they're in an environment full of dudes that are unhanced, bro, they take it too serious. So this kid tried to kill himself so many times, bro. They had to take out sho They had to take away his shoelace, bro. He was
11:51 And then they had to keep sending him to the mental hospital. going to be a threat to himself. >> Yeah, he's a threat to himself. >> Don't you guys get guns at some point? They can't just I mean >> No, no. Yeah, exactly. On the range. >> Yeah, that's scary. >> He would No rifles for him. >> And then people who even say like, I I can't wait to like kill you guys. >> Like people who say stuff like that, >> they take him out immediately >> because you don't know what they're going to be at like at the range. This kid tried to slice himself in the stall. This kid tried to hang himself in the stall to the point where u we had they had to have two battle buddies on him at all times. And there was another battalion next to us where uh right um at the end of holiday block leave, he killed himself. >> What did he do? >> I don't know what >> but he just didn't make it back. >> He didn't make it back. So they they had to leave a coffin in that battalion. >> That's crazy. Because some people can't see the future or like just hang on to
12:42 it or embrace the suck where yes, it's going to be s█████ for this long, but like if you just if you end up passing just this phase, everything's going to be so much better. Some kids can't stand it. >> Wait, the way they dealt with it was they put a cough in there as like a visual reminder. >> That's a just like as like a memorial thing like, "Hey guys, this guy's off himself." Like >> that sounds ████ dark. >> It is dark, bro. The whole thing is dark, dude. This ████ was crazy, bro. >> Hey, just a reminder while you're thinking about killing yourself. This guy, he did it. You ████ You ████ ████ >> That's like putting him on the wall, dude. >> Yeah. >> The whole thing is crazy, bro, cuz you're so stuck in the same environment for 6 months, dude. You're It's It's just crazy, bro. Cuz like if I if I envision my drill instructors, if he caught someone hanging from the wall, I
13:33 think he would still be yelling at him. Like, "Did I give you ████ PERMISSION TO DIE? DID I GIVE YOU ████ PERMISSION TO DIE?" LIKE, he'd be still yelling at him. Get the ████ down, you piece of ████ Like, I don't think there's any empathy. It would just be like, "Get the ████ down. I don't know what you're doing." It'd be him. Someone hanging themselves on the ceiling is the same thing as someone picking their nose in formation. Like, what are you doing? It'd be the same. >> Yeah, it's a marine, so I don't blame it. But then our time changed. Like a jurance would be like that, but because of the new POIs and the new commander and the new rules from the head 20 years later. >> Yeah, it's 20. Everything's different. >> It's crazy to think that everyone says how soft it all is now, but then there's still kids in there trying to kill themselves. Bro, people can say it's soft all you want, but when you're in there, bro, they some drill sergeants will choose not to listen to
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