0:00 [Music] we're no Jake Tapper but I will tell you that we're pretty good at asking pretty stupid questions so first of all welcome back TS tulsy thank you and uh fire away boys okay so I wanted so I wanted to play a game okay where we all just keep going and rotating and asking questions okay and it can get smarter or Dumber but usually Dumber with this uh cast that we have most likely so I I'll start it off um were you named after uh Oklahoma City no that's t s this might shock you but it is not the first time I heard this question oh really uh Tulsi Tulsi is uh
0:50 a sacred flower from India that's what I thought yeah it's a basil right almost yes the holy basil is is what it's called she reads A Lot okay your turn howy to beat that it's pretty smart oh my God Is it supposed to get [Laughter] smarter where do you live now I I literally that's a secret is it is that a bad question literally live on I'm just nervous I'm just so nervous right now he's going to break your back is Hawaii but I'm I'm I am not don't answer that question that was a bad question I'm sorry let me go again let me let me your turny okay second round we'll come back okay which way are we going this way okay are you a big time x-man's fan is is that who you stole your hair hair stuff very yeah um I no I I am a big fan I am a big fan
1:43 you like Rog but yes I do actually um I did not have a gray streak until after my first deployment to Iraq oh wow and uh so I have kept it because of that um I did have someone in a Starbucks possibly in the Chicago airport tell me as I was standing there girl I love that skunk stripe in your oh and she meant it in the best possible way and so I was like thanks thanks I appreciate I do get the Rogue thing I do get the Rog yeah you got to get the Rogue can I ask what happened in Iraq that caused the uh I worked in a medical unit um where every day we were I was confronted we were confronted with the the heavy human cost of War we lost
2:37 um we lost a lot of our guys this is 2005 it was the height of the war we were about 40 Mi north of Baghdad in what was then referred to as the Sunni triangle and uh unfortunately we took a lot of casualties across the board including our unit which was the 29th Brigade combat team from the Hawaii National Guard we were near nearly 3,000 soldiers from Hawaii Guam saan American s and um it was it was a it was a very tough uh life-changing experience so it's like a biological reaction to PTSD or feel I mean it's it it's the only way I can explain it great dumb question Bart yeah you asked it no no great Dum question I have a really good question so uh self-proclaimed earlier you said
3:28 that you first started politics first before going into the military when did you go what made you decide uh the attack on 9911 was what motivated me to make that decision joining the mil I have my both of my grandfather served in the military um my dad wanted to he tried to go and enlist with his friend uh out of high school and they both went into the medical processing station his friend made it through my dad didn't make it through um I I hadn't really thought about joining the military up until that point and I I wanted to do my I joined the National Guard MH um I wanted to do my part for the country and also continue to serve my state my my uncle saw Pearl Harbor and then that's what made him join too but then these guys say that he was in the plain side not on
4:18 the side the side he was he was watching it in Hawaii yeah your dad is Japanese my uncle yeah yeah yeah well we're all Japanese but yeah he uh he saw it and but they swear that he was on the plan different point of view I I on that note and I talk about this in my book um in a chapter about civil liberties we know this in Hawaii we know the story of the Japanese internment camps and a lot of Asian-American communities this is common knowledge but it is not common knowledge in a lot of parts of our country uh about how during a time of War how quickly your freedom is gone oh yeah your freedom is gone and because of your ethnicity even regardless of your citizenship do process yank you out of your home your job your school and you got to go live in a camp you land rights too that was crazy exactly I I have
5:10 family on both in tournament camps and back in Japan that's pretty cool yeah they're battling each other pretty cool so maybe there was one on the plane you know yeah and then one going go always that yeah um so the other week we were having like a pretty cool conversation we were talking about how sick the Constitution was that's awesome and then our buddy just like smoked us wait let me just um this is going to see if I have this here's how much of a freaking nerd I am wow there's a pocketz constitution get one of those talking about how cool it is and then our friend just like totally annihilated Us by telling us that the constitution is racist and we couldn't say anything really we didn't know how to we couldn't find the perfect comeback did did they were they specific about what yeah they said the guy that wrote it don't look
6:01 like us right they look like me like him right exactly so the guy on the dollar bill what what do you say to like when people really have that belief that that that thing was written by people that wanted to oppress you guys like you um there are there's nothing that I'm aware of in the words that are written that prove that to be true uh obviously it was written by people who were slave owners and that is the ultimate and original sin of this country uh I wouldn't doubt that there was racism uh in who they were their mindset but I think it is also very telling that the words in the Constitution talk about how all men are created equal it doesn't say all white men are created equal they
6:53 could have wrote that they could have in all I mean seriously they could have wrote that and high-fived each other they could have nailed it might have been an edit was men written in white I thought back then when they referred to men they meant human men too so yes yes it was it it was man in like the you know the Creator sense not not in the the sense of a of a um but that's that's where I I I find so much inspiration in how Martin Luther King navigated through all of this and how he gave these incredible speeches even as his fellow civil rights activists and protesters were killed by white law enforcement officers that Martin Luther King stood up in front of his friends at a time when they were like hey enough is enough
7:44 now is the time for us to take up arms and fight for ourselves and our freedom and he said no we can't give them what they want we have to stand and respect not only our black Brothers but our White Brothers and I'm paraphrasing here obviously but he's given such incredible speeches that serve as an example where instead of taking the route that we see a lot of people taking today which is that all white people are racists our founding fathers are racist that means this is meaningless um instead of and it would have been an an understandable path to take for someone in his position but instead he took the words written in the Constitution Bill of Rights and used them as that guide to work towards a future where all of us
8:34 are created equally endowed by our creator with these inalienable rights um it's his example that I look to and I think it is so dishonorable to see people um saying that what he did and the example that he set and the words that he shared that are just as relevant to us now as they were then well those are P those are no longer relevant they are more relevant now than ever and it's it's it's just so disrespectful of the sacrifice that he made with his life for the cause that he dedicated himself tool I'm going to be walking a very thin line right now uh but it for our fans I feel like I have to bring a certain topic he's also known as number one and I'll explain what that is later okay all
9:25 right we all know that's a lie and that's okay um but on a on in an actual serious way uh you had mentioned you know uh joining the cause and the fight because of like 9/11 uh because you had to go through and Ure so much what are your personal feelings you don't have to go with your views specifically but on like when people say things like 911 was a conspiracy Everyone's entitled to their own opinion um I think that there there are a lot of things that are used to distract us away from the truth and I'll give you one example that's I would say uh is is a present day example of what
10:17 I'm talking about but on this point there is a very real short-term and long-term threat to uh people to us and to people who appreciate and cherish Peace and Freedom everywhere from islamist terrorism and so yes that is Al-Qaeda that is Isis I was deployed to East Africa where a couple of years ago we were dealing with al-shabab terrorist group uh you have Hamas right now in Gaza you've got these different groups all over the world um they cannot be defeated if the reason why they continue to thrive is we have too many politicians in different parts of the world who refuse to confront the ideology that drives them for fear of being labeled islamophobes so instead they say well we're just countering
11:07 violent extremism or we're just fighting terrorists well in those kinds of movements you're not dealing with a state actor a state military um you H yes there is a military and kinetic uh component to this but there's also an ideological battle that has to be fought and you don't fight it through the suppression of suppression of free speech or anything else but you you you defeat this ideology with a superior ideology the Patriot Act negative as nice as it sounds as nice as it sound um and this comes in different forms and I've seen this how you know there were imams in Iraq for example who were like no we won't accept what Isis
11:57 is doing we won't accept what Al-Qaeda is doing and they from their seat were preaching for peace and and trying to defeat that ideology with the superior one we saw the same thing in Somalia and in other places which and and and there there are a lot of different examples of this but these threats are very real and so I got to be honest with you I'm not I haven't done the Deep dive into those who are saying 911 was a hoax he did here here's what I know is but that's okay on the record um thousands of people died uh Al-Qaeda terrorists flew planes into those buildings they were supported by uh many of them were supported by Saudi Arabia something that continues to be um an issue our leaders in Washington uh refus to confront but I've sat with the
12:48 surviving family members of those who were killed on 9/11 and their continuous Pursuit Of Truth uh and justice for their loved ones uh who were killed I bring up the point about distraction because it comes from different places and It ultimately ends up hurting um or distracting away from the thing we should be really focused on and I'm going to shift to Maui and the massive wildfire in Lina that took place uh less than a year ago in August of last year in Hawaii um I there have been so many things I I've had people come up to me saying hey where are all the kids I I I was in Florida recently and I had a Uber driver who was was dropping me off and he was like uh went down the list and he's like
13:39 no all the kids are gone like all the kids are gone he's like don't you know that I was like well here's what I know I represented that Community for 8 years in Congress I was there 3 days after the fire I guarantee you if there were a whole bunch of kids who just went missing those parents and those communities would be up in arms every single day until those kids were found hasn't happened yes kids died in that fire moms and dads died grandparents died unfortunately and I think the the latest count of people who either died during the fire or who succumbed to their burn wounds is at 102 people um the blue tarps the laser guided uh uh you know attack that started all of these different things
14:30 and I've been in so many places in the country where serious people ask these really concerned questions about all these different things and I explained to them what happened what we know happened cuz I was there and I talked to people who saw it and they lived through it um with just this horrible combination of events of hurricane winds funneling through a valley going through a community that has fires all the time because it's the driest part of the island these normal brush fires all of a sudden you have this wind coming through and in the in the words of those there they said it was like a blowtorch that was horizontally traveling across this community hopping and skipping and jumping around which hit some places but didn't hit others but destroyed this entire Community within minutes well why were police there
15:20 telling people to go back into the fire it was chaos and confusion Cals dropped between one police officer to another the first uh the Emergency Management guy who should have been at the heart of this he was on a different Island and he didn't come and show up for a couple of days after apparently the mayor and the chief of police don't like each other so they weren't operating on the same sheet of music during this crisis there's so many people the water issue is a real thing on Maui where it's it's controlled by corporate interests and and they turn on and off the water based on all of these different factors that don't have anything to so there was a real problem with them saying I don't know if we should turn the water on and that's why a lot of the hoses of the residents whose immediate reaction was hey hurry up let's turn on the hose and at least
16:11 try to prevent this virus from spreading from one house to another the water didn't come out there there are very real problems that point to government ineptness um chaos confusion the things that that should be focused on and addressed and I just shared with people when you bring up even with the best of intention laser guided missiles starting this fire in Hawaii those the worst fire country seen in over 100 years you're really letting off the hook people in positions where they could have done something preemptively or in that moment uh by saying that it was some kind of unexplainable external attack from Aliens a really good point we can't let them off the hook cuz they're trying they're trying to say well was somebody else's fault and they resigned and they
17:01 what about the aftermath where they're trying to scoop up the is it true they're trying to Scoopy the properties from nice people or is that a lot of weird oh it's it is it's a very real thing that you have um you know it I mean it's essentially thievery people trying to come in and exploit those who've who are still homeless uh and and try to exploit them during their time of need and scoop up their land at at a at a really s█████ price that that's real that is real uh but but people there knew that was coming and uh and so it's it's been like the positive story here is just the resilience of that community and how everyone has come together not only in Hawaii but the outpouring of support that's come from people around the world to help them out and Joe Biden gave them money which was really cool he gave him 700 bucks which big it was big of him family one time on that same week I think another 100 Mil went out to
17:51 Ukraine or something it did yeah Biden doesn't have any businesses in Mau not yet yeah M Ron's kid too that answer two statements thank you for your service other one that's why the t-shirts will never be released don't ask again I have a real question um is lasagna a true pasta careful with this one yeah yeah going be everything it's big sheets but you can't really like like slurp it like a I mean by definition yeah really it's possible it's a who who said says pasta has to be a certain shape the people that go like this question I don't know how to answer that I love I love good food and my husband and I love cooking and so we got one of
18:41 those like KitchenAid pasta attachments and so my husband makes like killer homemade rolling it wow so he makes the dough and then you you you know you flatten it out and then you put it through the machine and it flattens it and you can make F or angel hair or just like sheets so I make like you know I'm I won't be humble about this cuz it's freaking good I make the best butternut squash lasagna ever with fresh noodles it's a total Game Changer you're kind of biased CU you you like Laz you're going call it POS that sounds disgusting Nick so like you talked about this a lot with like misinformation or people feeling like not hopeful in the world about like where our country is going or them feeling that they can't even make any changes so like for someone who feels like they're in that position do you have any like like advice or Insight of like how to fight the good fight like
19:31 how to get it going how to really put themselves on a game to understand what's really happening in front of their eyes instead of all the mainstream media telling you this telling you that like do you have any insight or advice that you could impart I mean it's it's it's um it is really just seek out information that um isn't like that that's outside of the well-beaten path um ask questions don't just accept a headline just because it's a headline um I I think that's I think that's the most important thing you know I I've got in my own family um and I won't be too specific to protect my family uh copesthetic environment here my family is dumb too so it's well no it's just like you know grow somebody who's in my family who knows me very well uh when
20:24 being told like yeah you know CNN is really trying to destroy tulsy and they're saying things about her that aren't true intentionally because they don't want people to hear what she's saying he says well I don't believe Aaron brunette on CNN would do that why would she want to hurt I she probably just doesn't know she probably just doesn't know the truth because if she knew the truth then she wouldn't say these things about her that aren't true I'm being dead serious here wow cuz she's out front ahead of the news isn't that her name of her show said well said I I don't think I could have cited that this gu's good but it it is just it is it is don't be afraid to question things um that are appear to be the accepted Norm uh cuz there's always more to it and uh and try to you know if if you don't know or have the time to search out like okay what podcast should I listen to or what news sources I listen
21:15 to ask your friends ask your neighbors uh I scroll through all the different news headlines from all the different places because generally can kind of get a sense of like the bias and like okay somewhere in here they're pieces of the truth that are being reported recorded uh but I I listen to podcasts from The New York Times I listen to Joe Rogan I listen to uh a b a bunch of different podcasts of coming from people with different views because I really want to know like what what are people saying how are they thinking what what what are people who disagree with me saying about a certain issue and challenging myself and my own like okay do I have a good counter argument to what they're saying and if I don't then I got to I got to do some work I try doing that though cuz like you listen I listen to I tried to listen to NPR but I was driving at like 8:30 at night and I almost ran off the road I was
22:05 fall it's so hard to listen I I don't I you don't like the whisper have bad experiences with NPR I know you're probably shocked I'm I'm actually appalled I can't believe this I know yeah they you unfairly yeah wild yeah wow yeah you know I gave him a shot I like this is there are two interviews in my life that I have taken off the microphone and walked out Midstream oh ████ and uh uh one was on Fox News and another was uh on NPR who's talking to you on Fox this guy named Leland Vitter who is now on news Nation um I I actually I don't know if I've done interviews with him since uh but uh he it was just not a good experience and he wasn't interested in what I had to say so why am I going to sit here on your air and talk to you if you don't want to know what I have to say yeah the same thing with NPR
22:57 essentially how does Tulsi gabard KCK it how do you absolutely K it how do you hang um in Hawaii it's it's surfing it is surfing I love I like going in the ocean is my therapy it is peaceful my husband's been trying to tell me to get like an Apple Watch with cell signal on it like no I don't want to be getting like text messages in the water where when I'm escaping from the world um your sickest but I've discovered just not falling off just I just have crazy board grab stuff board grabs no um you discovered the Tactical games have you guys heard of it oh I just recently saw you compete yes did you just sign for that's my jam so that's that's that's um it combines uh CrossFit it combines high-intensity
23:47 Fitness with shooting um and so you're competing you're competing to challenge yourself with your Fitness and then knowing like oh my God after I just did 25 burpees I got to go and grab my pistol and rifle and somehow hit a Target that's like 100 yards away in a tiny little triangle and then go back and do 25 more burpees and box jumps and all this other stuff that sounds so fun it was it's so fun um it's one of those things that requires all of your focus and energy and so it's for me I I just I love it uh for a lot of reasons but um it combines some of the things that I really love most I play it's a total Escape I would destroy you is that your you would destroy he's actually a legend Yeah final question yeah please
24:38 will you be running for president again uh I don't know okay I don't know his honest answer Trump's BP that's still a really big answer I don't know there's rumors right now there's rumors right now there is rumors I don't know I I want to be I want to be in a position where I can actually help to affect change and solve a lot of these problems that we're talking about uh what I do know and what is lacking unfortunately in Washington is there are too few people of Courage who would have the willingness to go in and say hey do we need a federal department of education I think it's a legitimate question to ask and I think when we look at the metrics of performance and Effectiveness and whether or not the federal department of educ ation and all
25:30 the money that it takes to feed that bureaucracy is actually improving our kids ability to graduate as educated people in our society I I think that the numbers point in the wrong direction and that a federal cookie cutter approach to education is actually counterproductive to serving a child's best interests and needs in education but this is this is one example of many of obviously there are a lot of unions and special interests who benef like all the people who print all these textbooks that the federal government says you have to use in your local school there's a lot of money and a lot of power in a federal department of education but uh I think it's an our kids deserve better and the kind of change we need to make in this country requires people of Courage who are willing to say the thing that people
26:21 in Washington are know are are are uh too afraid to say out loud so whatever the position may be if I if I am if I have an opportunity to go and and be that person and assemble a team of those kinds of people uh I would I would jump at that opportunity awesome well thank you very you so much you're awesome thank you guys for having me this is a glass tsey gab get the book the audio book get the dang book I recorded the Audi book and I will just tell oh you did it I recorded the audio book myself just Snoop Dog do it and there is a there is a surprise in the audio book that I'm not going to break here but that I have not found in any audio book I've ever listened to really yes but you got to listen to the
27:11 audio both you did certain sections with the Asian accent yeah what makes you think I would do something so offensive to as it happens to here every second it's kind of hard Vibe thank you so much you guys are the best [Applause] aome
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