0:00 [Music] welcome back to a highly sensitive and uh empathetic episode of careful boys today we have Brett with us hey wo and we have Gucci over there uh this might be a hard one for some of you how do you support a friend who is very bad at the thing they want support on oh I I I think I know what we talking about so like back in the day when we're all creating and like young and we're all just we have dreams right there's always some like we have friends who are still like not there yet maybe like they need to work on a little bit more but they're just ready to break out and show the world right so they want you to come to all their shows all this stuff and you keep going and you're like man you ████ suck though dude right are you talking about that yep okay yeah like if you had a standup friend that was like
0:50 really trying to make it they're like hey I need your help but they're just really not ready I've had that yeah I've had a comic I was like oh by the way how long have you been doing comedy cuz like I only really saw them at like when I first came to LA and I hadn't really seen them much since but I think they were just doing like I don't know what kind of shows they were doing I've never seen them um and I was just catching up and they're like yeah and I was like how by the way how long have you been doing comedy yeah like 13 years I'm like that's tough you should stop you should do something else some sometimes it's not your calling that's you know I'm not one like I'm not going to lie to any comic's face like if so a comic comes off and they bomb they're like like you know you know sometimes you like good ████ good ████ I'll be like you man that was trash you know that that was ass right you know you know you ████ up they're like you think so yes
1:40 yes I do sir because the ████ you have one job and it's to make everybody laugh that's it that's the whole thing and nobody laughed so you ████ up and that's okay that's okay keep going but does does it change if let's say you have a friend that you've been friends with a long time and they start wanting to get into comedy and it's like very early in their career and they're like hey like I need some encouragement I don't like you know that if you said oh dude you're whack it'll they'll just stop do do you play that more sensitive so I will be careful like I I think you should try you should I'm going to push people to go try and go be bad at stuff right like for the first like three years of my career I was terrible I know I was bad but you have to be bad to get good yeah for sure right we all 13 years is a little yeah that's a long time that's a strong Spirit though huh yeah yeah that's a long time you know maybe
2:31 maybe you're better at producing a show maybe you're maybe you're calling is somewhere else in that world like the passion's correct may you be a club manager yeah yeah maybe you just don't need to be on stage you know Talent guy right damn I wish I had the ball and just say it blunt like that I got a homie who's like trying to blow up on Instagram like with reals and stuff he's always coming to me for advice I'm like it's just it's just not clicking we just got to try you know some different formats and stuff but it's just like some people got it some people some people got it hard to what what kind of content does your friend make it's like real estate stuff yeah and the real estate is not like is it like is he boring or is he too many words it's boring it doesn't flow it's not interesting it's just like damn all across the board bad yeah yeah just not there's nothing that makes it stand out you especially in real estate people are getting so creative and so all these it's already boring yeah it's already
3:22 boring there's one dude who rents apartments and he's so like he shows the entire apartment but he will like end up in weird places like he'll be like sprawled out in the window he'd be like ████ in the sink I'm like what the ████ is this guy doing he's in like Texas somewhere but I not even looking for an apartment there but I follow his account because it's so entertaining dude that's how I know you're hidden man but when when you tell this guy like feedback does he respond well to it is he like okay yeah yeah he he responds well he what's cool about him is he takes action like takes the advice immediately but like he doesn't implement it fully um oh okay it could be just a experience thing right it takes time to see what you're saying yeah but maybe if he's doing it for 13 years it's going to take a lot of time type of content he's like at his apartment unit he's like looking at the
4:12 ████ radiators and ████ I'm like this is cool for people who have been in the game for 10 oh it's too inside but like you got you got to get a noob to stop scrolling and watch the video they're not going to sit and watch this ████ bro like you got to get have like sexy controversial stuff that makes them stop and watch right true yeah government's ripping you off this how you get him back the realistic whoa whoa whoa W and this dude he's 20 he's I don't want to put all Hisar it down he's he's in his 20s and he has like 5 to 600 units like he's Bond so he knows what he's doing he knows what he's doing holy ████ he doesn't even need social media he doesn't dude well that's the perfect guy to say stop doing it cuz has a great fall back right right he could he could definitely just chill but like but also it seems like his mentality will get him to a point where he'll find it right like he's willing to
5:03 adapt and adjust it's like it's the person that are like that's like no I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing for 13 years and it's not working for you dog how many units does that person have they don't have their own so it's not working yeah I actually rather deal with the friend that shows up every day sucks ass yeah than the person that's the most talented ████ ever and they're never put in a day's worth of work facts yeah cuz that actually like it hurts me cuz I want to see them succeed and then like let's say I'm like we try to set up things or we do things together and I try to actually support cuz I I actually enjoy supporting friends so if I try to like support and then the minute I'm like okay cool you're doing good and I let go of like the training wheels and I just see them or they just stop doing
5:53 their content or they stop doing whatever they're doing that actually like breaks my heart and I'm like ████ you know versus you helped this you invested all this work and time yeah yeah and I know like they have the talent or potential to do it but they're getting in their own way yeah versus like someone that's like maybe really sucks ass or even like in the fitness space let's say there is someone with ████ hypothyroidism and it's really hard for them to lose weight but they're doing the 10,000 steps a day they're trying hard like if you try hard I'll try hard I'll match you we'll go 13 years or whatever even if you're even if you get fatter I'm like I'm still here with you dude yeah that's dope you know but then but if they're like the the last thing you want is one with everything and then they just aren't down and put on the workday today that's that actually is tough did did you ever to coach somebody that you were just
6:43 like I got to let this person go every time I think that they you just stick it out with them and they'll prove you wrong I think really that's that's how I feel like there's been times where I get some people I'm like ████ I don't know what I'm going to do with this dude and I I still get those clients where I'm like dude you can't even ████ move your hips you can't do anything properly but you know just the right amount of volume the right amount of time and I think just constant encouragement is is helpful that's I think it's helped me a lot to to see that for others but how about in Jiu-Jitsu if you have like a friend wanting to get into it and they're just like not good at it at all and I tell them I'm like yeah that's right that's where you should be you should suck at this ah like like what you were saying like you just have to eat dick for a whole like 5 years 13 year white belt well you're impossible though yeah hey Never Say Never dude hey year 14 is going to be your year dude I think
7:33 he's also a good coach too he knows how to push people and Corral them where they're like on the right cuz honestly that's what it really is so like what you you pointed it out like0 I think so many people when they stop that's what kills everything because they get in their wrong way yeah CU I'm a 5year white belt because I stopped for four and a half years oh okay do they count those years yeah cuz all the all the so Jiu-Jitsu if we use as an example all the black belts talk about so for every one black belt there's probably 1200 white belts that join with them at that time right like let's call that like the their class they'll tell you when I joined and showed up there's probably a bunch of people that are more athletic Stronger Faster got the technique better than I did I was actually the s████████ one but I just never stopped showing up yeah so that guy became the black belt cuz he just
8:24 kept going whereas the people that came too easy sometimes they'll abandon it themselves cuz they're like oh it's not that much a challenge for real yeah absolutely you'll be like you'll see the guy that comes in the first class smashing and like oh dude this guy's going to be somebody and then like wait what happened to him I'm come two weeks later he's not even there anymore that's the same across I feel like so many genres of of work same like if you'll see somebody like very rarely are we ever going to have an Eddie Murphy again where he just ████ kills it in his first two years of Comedy gets on SNL never has to audition books all the movies writes his own movies we're never going to have that again that's an anomaly right but a lot of times what happens now is like people blow up so fast and they don't know what to do with it because they didn't put in the work so they're not ready they're not ready or I see like a lot of like um like influencers they are like oh you know my agent is telling me now I have to learn how to be a standup and then they think
9:14 it's going to come easy because they get to really control their um presence online right you get to edit and re-edit and re-edit and reshoot to get it perfect where on stage you have one shot you have one opportunity to make people laugh live and they don't know about you in your internet presence these are complete strangers and there's no they have no preconceived notion about who you are you have to do all of that work in the set time that you had and that is hard work just to get 15 minutes like a solid 15 minutes it took me like 5 to six years of hard work yeah yeah for sure and you have to bomb a lot to construct those jokes that make up your 15 minutes and then for YouTubers they don't even know what that's like have you guys ever had a friend who was getting into something or was doing something that isn't what you do at all like let's say you have a friend who
10:04 does like popup uh Bakery stuff and their stuff is just bad but they want your support and they're like hey can you post my bakery page can you do this like how do you do that like oh I'm starting a clothing line and I'm like who is wearing this but like I'll show I'll show up for you still I'm not going to buy it cuz I don't wear like like I had this one friend back in the day who had these like T like just tattered clothes and it's like I okay but like it's not really close like you t a shirt you know all of my friends no questions asked I support I'll yeah no matter what the product or how bad it is if it's a friend but there's a lot of fans that would be like hey put me on oh yeah they'll send me they stuff whatever I'm like um N I don't know you like that
10:54 but if it's a friend you'll always like if it's a friend and it's certifiably a bad product though that's that's I mean if it's not like you wear the shirt and you get a rash for 5 days but if it's that's crazy it's not a hazard if it's a subjectively bad you know not objectively bad like it's just like like um yeah if it's subjectively bad like the design is just ugly or whatever I'll still support cuz to me friendship goes above all of that I modeled for that friend oh you did oh that's that's real yeah would you model yeah she she was like do you want the shirt I was like no you I said no I don't want to take your product what about if it's like a a who's like a bad singer and they're like can you post this on your on your page like that's too tough then I don't want people make think I'm making fun of you I don't want cuz I post a lot of funny ████ that's
11:44 true if you did it it would be like you're roasted them yeah low key but what if what if it's like cuz you know how sometimes every now and then this thing will happen when when your friend will hit you up and go hey I'm in the middle of this singing contest thing and if I get these many reposts I'll move on to the next level like what do you guys normally do in that situation you know what I usually do so if it's not objectively bad like if they sing and your ears aren't bleeding it's it's it just sounds bad I think I do my duty as a homie to always support uhhuh and then I let the market figure it out cuz the market doesn't lie right so if it's like like he wants me to promote this ugly ass shirt he's my homie I'm promoting it my shirt sell if it doesn't sell I'm like that's not on me that's what the markets okay I can only give you the bump that's it yeah but I try to be the I do my duty
12:36 with as a homie but I can't guarantee success that's not my responsibility I think that's it yeah I don't think I'd ever tell people like someone to be like yo you you got to stop but what's cool is some people can take like bro this ████ is ass you got like those are the best people they can like hear that and be like all right you're right right cuz that could be the thing that makes them good cuz like for me I feel like what some of the things that push me in my comedy like I remember early on I did an open mic and I it's like ████ it's it's happy hour it's daytime broad daylight so the lights coming in and you could tell that nobody knew comedy was happening it was happening to them and this dude like I don't know what joke I was telling at this point cuz it was so early on but I just remember like looking out into this like hallway gunshot bar and this guy who was not paying attention to the show
13:26 at all I I finished saying something he I can see it to this day this glass of CAC right he puts it down he goes ████ Boo and then goes back to drinking his drink and I was like um uh okay um and I didn't know what to do cuz I was so green I just got a hit out wow right and I feel I genuinely feel like I only got good at what I do to spite that man to spite him out of moment I don't know who he is what a ████ villain origin story is that would that who is this person sassy guy but he has no idea sounds like a sassy drag queen just freaking chewed you out just played a part in my story two words yeah two
14:17 words wow that's crazy that's all it took that's all it took that's all it so sometimes you need that like you need that push yeah cuz that's like literally someone saying shut the ████ up I can't enjoy myself and I'm like that sounds nicer that is that does right wow I can't enjoy myself damn that was crazy but you do need that though yeah I think so we do need those cuz then once you brush it in your mind they like ████ that fool I made it and I did this for you you stupid ass but then thank you you're my you're my Master Splinter yeah yeah I think I remember when Master Splinter said that yeah it was a season 2 episode 16
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