0:00 You are out of options. The only way you can even get someone is by manipulation because look at you. And that's like the worst message ever. It's >> If they like find a 33-year-old woman on like Instagram, they're all caps being like, "Why aren't you married yet, you dumb >> Welcome back to Careful Boys. Today, this guy left a first date and then gave a performance review. >> [laughter] >> Like a Yelp? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. But just via text to it to the chick. >> Oh, to her personally? That's not nice. >> Yeah, so check this out. So this guy Well, you might change your mind cuz it's what he says is kind of tight. >> Okay. All right. I'll be I'll be open to it. >> What if you rated her high? >> If you're an Andrew Tate fan, you're going to think this is tight. I enjoyed tonight,
0:51 but I clocked something. You're used to being chased. I don't chase. I choose. >> This >> [laughter] >> You're such a ████ dumb ass, bro. The fact that you think telling would change my mind. >> Can you listen to the whole thing? Please continue. I'm sorry about that. >> I don't I don't chase. I choose. >> And I don't choose girls who still act single when they're being considered. If I take you seriously, your Instagram changes. Your energy changes. Your access changes. I'm not insecure. I just don't build with women who need options. So if you're serious about me, act accordingly. That's That's it. >> He's a gay poet. >> This sounds like so many people on Love Is Blind. It's ████ where they try to explain that Like >> You're so right. >> Oh my god. >> When they're being performative for camera. >> Yeah. >> Who likes this stuff? Do you think any women like this stuff? >> I don't even think gay guys like this
1:41 stuff. >> But like even the low IQ girls don't eat it up. >> I don't think so, man. I truly don't think they eat it up, but I think there are girls that will put up with it. >> if you're Andrew Tate's brother, you're like, "That's ████ tight." >> Tristan. [laughter] >> I I think that's about it. I can't imagine leaving a first date like that and then being like I think she needs to know all this. >> I think she needs to know I'm a possessive ████ weirdo. >> That's so whack, dude. What the hell? I want to let you know that you're under consideration. >> Oh my god. Why does he think he's Rico Suave? >> I don't know, man. >> I want to see what this guy looks like. >> I wish we knew. All we have is a text message. >> It honestly does not even matter what this fool looks like. >> But usually they look pretty weird, you know? >> Well, like let's say let's say that he didn't. Let's say that he was a really, really good-looking guy, right? >> Then that would be funny.
2:31 >> [laughter] >> How would it be funny? What do you mean? >> Because usually okay, if it if he if it is like he's so full of himself to the point where he's living in a dream world and that's why he acts like that. >> Yeah, that's fair. There is a picture of this guy. >> [laughter] >> stupid >> Absolute ████ Chad. >> I love that guy. >> I love that guy, dude. >> Total Chad, brother. >> That is Look how much that's maxed. Wow. >> He deserves it all, brother. >> Couldn't be any better than that. >> That fool got a jawbreaker going on, dude. >> Dude, man. It's just unbelievable how many That's not an uncommon kind of person though, you know? >> Did you guys ever meet any of these in real life? >> Yeah, I have. Yeah. I've probably come close to almost being like that when I was really young. >> Oh, do tell. >> But like that's my brain. That's not usually what I'm saying. You know what I mean? But I think that's just as bad. I think that you're a ████ tool even if
3:22 you're thinking like that. You know, when you're just like high horsing it. You know, it doesn't make me like uh I think thank thank god I wasn't ████ saying that out loud. >> I got a buddy who was like a um serial pickup artist education lover, right? He would go from course to course and like he would tell me and he swears he ████ swears by it. >> He swears that he crushes? >> No, like these courses work and like whatever. And then I'm like, "Show me. Like what is this ████ you're talking about? And then like I went down the rabbit hole of the whole culture. Like, there's like lingo, there's like methods, there's like they study this ████ like it's science, right? But the saddest ████ is it's usually like losers picking up losers. Like, it's not like they're actually getting into good
4:13 relationship. They're like I think eventually you're going to find a lonely person that's just as lonely as you and they're going to be like, oh well, he'll do. And then it's the saddest ████ >> Yeah, and they turn around they're like, it's cuz I did these things. No, it's like you finally had the courage to talk to a lot of women and it's a numbers game because even cat calling it's a numbers game and one girl is going to give you attention. >> Yeah, that's true. >> But it's a weird it's like a weird world of like it's kind of got like pyramid scheme vibes with a little bit of like manipulate her. >> Yeah, don't don't don't get to know her, work her. You know what I mean? >> The female brain is too puny to ████ understand so you have to do all these tricks. >> What I feel sad for these guys for is they'll never know how cool it is to
5:04 just know know somebody who really loves you. >> Damn. >> You know what I mean? Like who really genuinely loves you. >> I I don't think they think it's possible. >> I do I agree with you. Well, they're also being told it's not which ████ sucks. >> Yeah, it's a brainwashing stuff. >> The manipulation is on them. >> It's not possible unless you have a yacht and even then those chicks want you for your [snorts] money. So like they don't even understand. >> That's the ████ sad part is that these guys are being told by the ████ master of this ████ that like you are out of options. The only way you can even get someone is by manipulation because look at you. And that's like the worst message ever. It's like, dude, really? You know, you you think honesty you can get the bag for with honesty? >> These are the same guys who by the the like if they if they like find a 33-year-old woman on like Instagram, they're all caps being like, "Why aren't you married yet,
5:54 you dumb ████ You should like I'll ████ you. I'll I'll be with you." And they think that's going to work. >> Yeah. >> Like you you clock's ticking, dumb ████ ████ ████ >> It's horrifying. When the real truth of all of this, the best advice you could give someone, all the time they spend going to these courses, studying the ████ they should have just started a new hobby and been a regular person, and they'd meet someone that way. Take up ████ bouldering or join a run club. Do something that makes you focus more on the thing and let ████ serendipity take its course. >> Go do watercolors, ████ >> Anything. Just just build a skill. Like good lord. It's It's skill-less humans, man. >> Yeah, I don't think I could have stayed his friend if he didn't get out of it. But now he's like way I mean, this was like a decade ago. So like obviously, he's just a normal human being now. >> Did he have an ego death or something?
6:44 Like what what like shattered that? >> He started seeing the dark side. So like there's gateways to it, right? Some of it is like, "Hey, um you know, it's normal." Like as in like there's social courses. >> It's a positive thing. >> It's like, "Yeah, like you want to learn how to talk to women? Like maybe you should" It's kind of like what Brett does. You know Brett Maverick? He's like, "Just look Just look better. Like dress better. Like things that we learn in our teens about like courting, right? So you put on nice clothes, make sure you don't smell like ████ Maybe get fit, you know, like learn how to socialize, learn how to have a conversation. Be nice to people. Yeah. Like they role-play conversations and and ████ like that. And then it gets into the mentalist ████ And he goes like, "When you go down the rabbit hole, you're doing weird like the negging technique. Negging is
7:34 like when you talk down, so then like a girl that's a 10 will feel like she's a two >> and fight for your approval? >> Yeah, and I was like, that's some crazy ████ So like, it's all like ████ up mental manipulation, like, let's just ████ as many girls as possible. And then he was like, to be honest, like, I got into this thing cuz I just wanted a girlfriend. And then he go like, and then like, I started seeing that he go he called it toxicity of like how most of them were just manipulating women to get laid. And he goes, but he goes, that's not who I am. I still just want a girlfriend. Like, I want a relationship. And none of these things teach actual relationship. But it's like the entryway of like, ████ 50 girls. And then like, he goes like, there's a phase where like in your 30s, you don't want to do that no more. Like, you want something steady. So I was like, okay.
8:26 >> It's crazy he kind of self-realized that. >> I I mean, I I hope most people do in their 30s, right? But like, but you're right though cuz there's like in those comments with the 33-year-old girls, I be seeing like divorced dads and you'll see a 60-year-old grandpa talking some ████ And you're like, dude, no wonder some of these girls think guys are all like evil like >> No, and I got to say too, the now that I just memory unlocked, right? Like, I remember I I used to live with a buddy of mine who was older than me, significantly older than me. And so I would just like take what he said at face value. And he was trying to bang this chick who was like super attractive. There's no question about it. If I showed you a picture of her right now, everyone in this room would be like, yep. And so he was like, I am like going he's like, I'm going above my weight, but I want your help. And I was like, what do you want me to do? I'm like ████ way younger than this guy. He's like, I just want you to go there
9:16 and she knows you're my really close friend. So I don't want you to go there and just be very uninterested in her. I was like, okay, well, I'll just like treat this like an acting class. Like, I'm just going to go there and I'm going to be uninterested in what she has to say. Sure. I'll just do what he says. >> She's going to want you more. >> Well, no, it's not about me though. It's about her trying to get close to his friend cuz she already likes him. And then I am being dismissive or whatever, not interested. And so she thinks she has to be better for him. And it ████ worked. >> Oh, because now she's like, "Oh, if he doesn't like me >> If he doesn't like me, like that's like maybe his best friend. I don't really know, but maybe it is. And like if he doesn't interest if he doesn't think I'm interesting, maybe I'm not interesting. But this girl was like a smoke show ████ deluxe. Like he had really no business even flying this close to the sun, but it was
10:07 like kind of what he wanted to do. And so he instructed me to do this, like to be uninterested, and I did, and it ████ worked. I didn't think it was going to work at all. By the way, like he ended up dating her for like 2 years. Yeah, so like it there is a method to this, but it it doesn't It's not It's like junk food. It doesn't last. >> The thing is though, like how do you know that that's what turned the tide? >> She could have already liked him. Because like some women are a lot, you know, we have to give them enough credit that sometimes when they decide they want to ████ you, they want to be with you, you cannot ████ that up sometimes. You could be a dick and do everything wrong, and they still are in bed with you at the end of the day. It's ████ weird. >> No, that I don't know how much I had an impact, but I know that he was one of those guys, and it really worked, and I couldn't believe that it was working the way that it was. >> But I also sometimes think it's more for the guys' confidence than anything.
10:59 Because like if they think that they have an upper hand and a method, they're interacting, right? So like if they didn't, then they won't be interacting. So no matter what, they're shooting their shots, even if it's manipulative or whatever. So I'm like, just for the sheer fact of shooting many shots and being comfortable with it, that already puts you in a completely different league than guys that don't at all. >> That is true, yeah. >> If you're always out there, yeah, you're you always be closing, you're always talking to girls. Like it's like Yeah, it just puts you in front of them. >> I think you can infinitely help a lot of guys by just If all you could do was just show them the visual difference between a guy who's acting creepy and one who's not, that does a world of difference by itself. >> Just look at little behaviors. Look at little like nonverbal things. Like, this
11:50 guy is creepy. This guy is not. This guy is creepy. This guy is not. Because that's honestly like what turns a lot of girls off right in the beginning. Cuz you could be a pretty decent-looking guy, >> but if you're just acting weird. >> But a lot of those guys are just socially very stunted. >> That's so true. >> I wouldn't know if they could see it. >> That's what I'm saying. Like, if they If somehow you could turn that light switch on for them to be like, "You see how this guy looks? That's ████ you, dude. Stop doing that." You know, like >> Cuz most of them will immediately defend themselves going like, "What are you talking about? She's being paranoid. I'm the da da da." And it's like, "Yeah, you're the ████ idiot, dude." >> That's why they It's not going to last long, brother. >> Yeah, exactly. >> It's like a sugar high. >> Yeah, yeah. Cuz even when you know the You guys remember the pickup artist show with Mystery? >> Never forget it in my life. >> Yeah. And so, all those guys were dorks and kind of creepy. And then he made them like kind of go to these social If it's fake, whatever the ████ But like,
12:40 they still look creepy doing that ████ You know what I mean? [laughter] >> You mean that challenge go to the bar and talk to girls? Yeah, it's >> feathers and ████ >> Yeah, it's probably all doctored up, but like still, I'm like I'm like nobody's buying that because you guys still look creepy while doing this thing. You know? It's not a thing where just because you're confident, like you you psych psych yourself out to talk to a girl. It doesn't mean that it it looks natural on you. >> That's why it's like we're like Bart was saying earlier. It's like, if you just act cool, right? Like, if you act like you don't give a ████ as much, like you're not creepy because you're not that interested. Whereas if you act overly interested, you come across as creepy. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You just have to kind of chill out a little bit in general. >> Or you really have to like get find in your whatever how your brain works, find something that authentically is interesting to you and zone in on that
13:31 like about a person. You know what I mean? Like if if somebody has a certain interest or occupation, like get that commonality in there rather than like the mission is always to ████ get her. You know what I mean? >> I never connected more with Nikki than like it was like our second night hanging out and we went back to her place. And we were watching actually just sketches together. And I showed her all my favorite SNL sketches and like different sketches, Kids in the Hall, whatever, and she showed me all her favorite sketches. And then like it was like we were ████ already. You know what I mean? Like it was genuine. >> Exactly, yeah. And you know what's cool is if it doesn't work out, what a great friend. You know what I mean? Like that's where it's at. It shouldn't always be, you know. >> If she's like, you know what's my favorite sketch is the Chad series on
14:21 SNL. I'm like, all right, cool, yeah, I got to go. It's I'm oh, ████ >> [laughter] >> I got to I actually have to leave. I have an emergency. >> We're going to watch ████ videos all night? >> My friend is being raped. Thankfully, that's not what happened. >> [laughter] >> Thank god JK fans aren't ████ incels. >> For real, though. >> Right? We have like the most socially normal people. They're cool as ████ >> They should just do laundry a little bit more.
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