0:00 this fool was the first to do so many things he would name it something but he wasn't thinking it would catch on so he has some dumbass names out there like what and then people go like why is it named that oh yeah I wondered he's like I don't know [Music] welcome everyone to another amazing episode of careful boys today we have with us Mr Steve Toronto [Applause] Legends Legends there's a lot of people out there who know who Steve Toronto is and uh a lot of people don't mostly people don't so let's go ahead and uh get you equated with him Steve is a legend in the martial arts tricking Community we should put the footage up while you're saying this introducing [Laughter] so Steve uh he's a member of Quest Crew
0:52 he's also uh when I met him I had no clue that he was the same guy I used to watch on ESPN when I was a kid uh competing on these uh what was it that you were on uh US Open uh karate wow for Paul Mitchell yeah Paul Mitchell was yeah so he's kind of like responsible for the the way that tricking is today like there's a there's a he is responsible yeah not kind of shoulders yeah he is he is responsible yeah yeah he's not gonna ever say it so that's why I'm saying it now or else you'll never hear it that's why we're saying it yeah I knew if Steve Toronto maybe even since I was maybe in high school so I oh ████ I don't know what came first but there was a video that like Steve was like teaching a break dancing tutorial and it goes like this and then I think he goes like uh this is
1:42 how you do a Gainer can you just see this guy with this crazy ass box I think so I if it's the one that I'm thinking about yeah that's freaking crazy and then you don't remember doing this I don't know about those that was awkward that was awkward and I used to watch this oh dude I think it was that Scotty yeah but I've seen this a flash kick not a gator I mean that's the same ████ anyway actually this right okay I mean a flash kick is a Gainer with a kick right yeah yeah that's pretty much the same shirt then I remember seeing uh Paul Mitchell stuff because I would geek out over those things yeah yeah Arnold trying me like he's like Legend too
2:32 yeah we're like ████ trance music and ████ ████ that's ████ crazy yeah Arnold was my coach back today but I remember yeah video with him that's how I first saw you guys yeah Arnold Sean looks like YouTube put together yeah it was like uh old JK video I was like what the heck and you guys were all talking talking yeah he was he uh he watched our stuff back when we used to still shoot on like super like ghetto cameras and then uh he invited us over to his house to watch that UFC and then that was like the first time I think me and Joe saw like real celebrity or celebrities and but the funniest thing was Donald Trump he was taking like Wesley Snipes up to his computer to show him our ████ and then we're just like oh my God
3:25 I don't know Lawrence Fishburne was there Bill cause she would tell ageo Michael Jai why was there that's crazy we were just like oh ████ this is ████ crazy that's pretty wild yeah if I don't know who's your coach yeah he coached me um when I was a junior so like 16 to 17. yeah yeah yeah and he you know that he did those all those Impressions and stuff while we were training too so you'd be talking like an accent like like the Kung Fu Master dude yeah yeah yeah and he's just tell me you tied go again go again and then I just throw up and then be like all right that's enough how did you get into all this stuff like
4:16 uh martial arts yeah but like at a high level oh a high level um I I was on a demo team when at my local school for a while and then that kind of opened it up to like tournaments and scene was like well you can do all these cool routines and like flips I wasn't into that before yeah and we just started learning single moves and eventually I was doing a whole bunch of junior tournaments that paid money so I could actually travel around so like I just worked to go compete and then I started from martial arts yeah yeah that came first and then then you then breaking came after because it was so easy [Laughter]
5:14 all the best B boys went there they would bring cameras and kind of like rehearse routines and over the shoulder when he falls and do whatever like just like it was such a like I think it was such a trip to be there back in the day because it's the first time you see like a dude breaking some guy doing flips a guy with a big ass bow staff and then Arnold in the corner kicking a bag and it's so loud yeah and then it'd be like wow this is like a paradise and then I saw this dude doing some crazy flip my one of my first times there and I went up to him and I was like Hey how do you do that and he goes oh you should ask that guy I don't remember that no yeah that was that was pretty well but I knew him through zanga so zanga that's where Olympics remembered it's
6:05 always it's so cool to see like the birth of culture you know now you got Jam right kind of like a Consolidated place right right but like before then like even in Fitness and stuff there's like like almost the culture like precedes what are the brands and stuff of today and it's cool that you guys had so much passion that you guys would go to just the random community college and that was like the birth of that cult dude yeah and it's still going today right they still do sessions there yeah they still do open sessions what's a different crowd it's a different vibe like the old La Valley was very like uh like a little bunker hanger it's all dirty and the lighting was bad so I just got a little bit more rotten and you had all these really dope professionals like all of the the cool like stunt people were working there all the best view was you know so it was just a good environment to be around but yeah now there's no incentive it's just passion
6:55 based but I think now it's like oh he did he was famous because of this so there's like it's like a little bit different you would catch a lot of people that were just humbling doing their own thing like there was just one really old uh white guy who would climb a he was like an ex Olympian or something we saw that that was a little crew yeah yeah they had they had groupies too they always come through with Grandma group they're like 80 years old and they would climb and go to the top in their Grandma group you could just watch and it was like he was doing it just to for Fitness huh like yeah I think they used to do some of it uh competitively and they've just been doing this consistently for forever so they're still alive because they were old when we went there I was like damn these 80 year olds are just climbing to the top with just arms if that dude's still alive then that's another world record you know what's crazy so uh boys just stuck at the top
7:46 of the road get back down so before uh the crazy thing is that uh uh he was already dancing by the time that I met him but I didn't really know that and then uh there was a team that I joined called six step and then they asked me to be in a show because he couldn't do it and I didn't really know him and they were like yeah this Steve Toronto guy can't make it because he's competing with martial arts so can you take his place so I took his place in the show and I had his name tag basically because yeah and then uh and I hadn't even worked with him yet and I was just like oh yeah that guy couldn't go and then when I finally met him he was like Hey you owe me money for that pass okay you're like I'm an ████ it's like 25 bucks to like preset you yeah position
8:36 on there so you guys are on six steps together first yeah yeah yeah that was wild too because like one day it was a completely different team and then like two weeks later I came back and then it was like all the guys that are currently on Quest yeah so this joke were there I was like he didn't know Hawk he didn't know heiress or nothing and then when he got back from his trip all of us were on the team and this is like 2005. yeah and he was like who are these new dudes and why are they so cool honestly knocking away I was feeling pretty cool this is so this is crazy uh how did I want to know how air this is just me personally how did Eris get in the group because heiress used to date Geo's sister-in-law like there's if you go to Jill's mom's house there's pictures of Eris from high school wait who's her sister-in-law
9:27 uh her name's Cloud Claudia because that's what in the beginning when Quest versus I got David ABDC game events and then Jill would see Harrison but hey and they're like hugging I'm like who the ████ each other like early high school because I don't I don't think I know her it's not crazy like just a small it is yeah but he was always there next time I go I'll take a picture please so they're like prom pictures yeah prom pictures what like that yeah yeah I'm like ████ up that does not surprise me yeah that's funny that was because heiress was in every people crew I was in since I was 17. and I just everything we did he always like came along and did it too yeah there's no rules in dance
10:17 about being in different groups like yeah [Laughter] failed and then we started another one see that's okay yeah we didn't you gotta finish one before you can't be in all of them at the same Joe's a man of principle dude he doesn't ████ around but like you know what's what I wanted you to explain Steve is like what happened with you and martial arts that gave birth to like the form of tricking that you brought around the world oh well I know what Korea had a lot to do with it when you went for to like teach Korea yeah I think at the start of tricking there weren't there wasn't that many moves yet so that it was just like tricks so once uh like my generation of uh like competition
11:07 started coming in and the internet started coming around then we just started like trying to add more and more and more what year was it like I think uh I think around like 2001 ish what would you say is like the standard set of tricks that you could learn at like a martial arts school and then what were the other tricks above that kind of evolved into something else uh well I mean originally they had like a 540 which is like a insect resin kick landing on her kicking leg you see it all the time in dance there's butterfly twist but I was like oh yeah I got back tuck or Flash kick um what about the Van Damme one oh they're pop 360. that's that's like yeah all that's all that stuff was was there and then I think once we started getting to like 720s like double spinning and then doing like harder variations of that then that started getting like
11:58 one-ups doing multiple kicks during different spins and like starting to inverted tricks like side swipes like like all once it started getting inverted and then extra spins then there it just opened up a whole bunch of different animal navigations yeah it was like based in martial arts but then also bringing in other elements you know what I like is that this fool was the first to do so many things he would name it something but he wasn't thinking it would catch on so he has some dumbass names out there like what and then people go like why is it named that oh yeah I wonder like how he's like I don't know which one did you name uh Snappy swipe like Snap that's another Arnold one though like uh it's a crazy ass move too yeah that one's like a move called Corkscrew Corkscrew yeah box cutter box cutter that yeah box cutter there's no
12:49 way to Pat and move there's the terada flash you guys know what the Toronto wow what's that well I mean you like kicked four times yeah you know that oh ████ it looks resurfaced now like a lot of people are doing it now again but like when you punch off and then you just do switching flashes oh my God so I did first want to do like multiple switches like three three or more oh is that what that is you can't you can't copyright moves like the way you can copyright a song or whatever no I don't think so it's not not as of right now no it's it's hard huh you can't even copy you can't even trademark an entire like eight minute choreography so yeah like so someone else could just do it that's not true Galen hooks actually did a whole legal battle with a copyright she did regiment for her choreography piece and she actually won the case yeah so like it's like a sec it has to be like a segment of moves and you have to prove that it was like the sequences
13:41 the sequences weren't just that she actually won wow damn I didn't know that dang that'll be interesting because then I think the the stuff about innovators is oftentimes like it's like a pyramid right you got the innovator and then like you have like the top creators that know how to translate that to the public or whatever and then they get they get known as the guys that are like doing the move but they actually like learned it from the innovator and every I think industry is shaped this way we're like the ones that invent things they actually don't translate it to the public the way that the people in the middle track that's true yeah yeah it's like most most things that is what happened like most art most films all that stuff like the best like the directors director would be like no one likes that lame ████ yeah some guy you
14:31 never heard of yeah but then the director's all cream for them that's like anime perfect blue when they took all the ████ from perfect blue and all these movies do it now but back to you back to Steve Toronto the cool thing about you what about Korea all your s███'s on video yeah yeah at this at the start it was like the brink of Internet okay so yeah you had to download his clip took forever oh yeah like I was uh one of the first Americans to like go out there um so before before then did they view you as America my view as a dirty Japanese [Laughter] your fourth gen Japanese American yeah yeah fourth chance wow American dude
15:22 yeah dude but he went out there and you taught them martial arts tricking specifically yeah I just did when and did a whole bunch of demos and at like the cookie one which is the uh Taekwondo World Headquarters I went to different universities trained with them uh did like new spots how to speak Korean yeah they told you what to say yeah hey so pretty much pretty much this is the whitest dude trying to speak Korean that you've never heard it before so yeah yeah it did all those and then um they just pretty much took whatever I showed and then uh trained it up like the Koreans do yeah you know then they just expanded on because I remember you said that the next time you like went back or saw them they were like a different level well
16:13 yeah that's kind of how it went because like like whenever the Americans would go to a different place um they you know there wasn't that much footage back then so whatever they would see they would just practice and practice and practice that so like in Europe and in Korea so whatever they saw I was like the foundation yeah in uh Korea for for like tricking and then I still talked to all those guys like the Korean Tigers dude Mitchell he's like really big he's a Red Bull I thought I was I thought it was cool I was trying to relate to this dude when I met him I'm like yo check this clip out and it was Korean Tigers these guys that were and he's like oh yeah I know those guys but like he was he didn't tell me until way later that they do that because of him they're my students through any stunt group of people that I've hung around they always bring up your name at some point really yeah because you're ████ Legend dude you
17:03 don't know that you don't know that you're a legend yeah no he's he's so ████ humble they always bring his name up and I always heard this name Steve Toronto Steve and then you have to have a moment of silence and ████ yeah and we all we all take time it's probably they're probably younger guys though not all I don't know I don't know if they're younger like Gemma you know Gemma oh Gemma yeah she talked about you a bunch and I was like I've heard this name from my friend Ryan because Ryan always brings you up yeah and everyone like starts talking about how cool you are and all the moves you innovated and I'm like holy ████ I had no ████ idea we have a video with Gemma Gemma new win I kicked her and then she was a backflip after watch you kick her dude because we were teaching women self-defense it was no joke it was a women's self-defense course and we just ended up beating up all the girls that's ████ awesome yeah
17:53 [Laughter] with her first things yeah yeah actually she competed before I did she was a little ass kid I I have videos of her competing when she's like I don't know how how old she was but she was like two feet tall but yeah yeah so I joined the circuit that she was doing okay um then we trained for a little bit together too even though she's like from Virginia I think but yeah you know it's like sometimes we meet up and like train depending on like what tournaments I'm always so interested how people that are really young get crazy passionate about stuff was it something that was just in you or your parents like pushed you or uh I think originally for for martial arts I was I got bullied a little bit when I was younger and I was super quiet didn't talk or anything so so like I
18:43 didn't like all the yelling at first and then I came back like a few years later yeah yeah I didn't like anything between the student Creed you like yelling I'll be like like just confused by the time but but yeah I got into it after that and then I I just fell in love like with the technique because you know you're just getting instructed and like doing this I was like oh I can remember all this stuff and then you know just that self-confidence came from um taking class and learning and getting better and then I had really good instructors too encouraging so that helped a lot that to just solidify that I really liked it because I kind of quit all my other sports for martial arts did you grow up here yeah um I grew up in Thousand Oaks oh the valley yeah perfect place for all that stuff though it's like martial arts Central I know dang uh first time I saw your stuff was like I think you were doing nunchucks
19:34 really or or was it size or the uh it was like this oh oh uh comments yeah yeah yeah and you're doing flips and kicks and stuff and I was like wow this is like martial arts but like video game martial arts I don't even know what the hell it was because I done martial arts but like I don't I'm like when are they gonna teach me this ████ yeah what level is that hey Steve can I see a really personal question on camera what's up how many how many times have you um competed to the Mortal Kombat theme song competed zero but I'm definitely demos you never you never use it oh no yeah that was like everybody did generation I've done demos with the Mortal Kombat song oh for sure yeah bro I bet you guys for sure you go often yeah because hey play some right now dude
20:26 can I show you guys one of the things that I first saw man yeah yeah yeah oh yeah hell yeah I did oh ████ yeah yes Memoirs of a Geisha you're in it kitchen eyes that's my first you must have been like 19 or something or whatever yeah yeah I was I think it was yeah like 19 right or whatever freaking three ninjas which one the mega Mountain one no no uh doing back I know but I didn't do anything you're in three ninjas in a baseball scene when they're doing all that I bought a hot dog bro what a hot dog I mean it was a big hot dog is that is that the one with Hulk Hogan no no I did kick back so the
21:17 second one not the wait the one in Japan yeah yeah it's the best one yeah but yeah so were you in Japan in Japan nah it was the first part of the movie where it's still in the valley [Laughter]
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