0:00 [Music] There's a lot of talk on the in the Twitter sphere and around the internet about male loneliness. You guys been hear about that? Yeah, I've been seeing that. Yeah, she's making fun of it already. She's making fun of it. What? I'm That's a big joke to you. She was like She was like She was like, I'm sympathizing. You know, guys um tend to die much faster when their wife dies and but then not their wife. Yeah. They live a wonderful life cuz women have friends. Yeah. My grandma when my grandfather passed away, she was out there living her life, dude. She was like, I can go out. I can do this. Yeah. She was out going on dates. I think she was, but she just was like going out with her friends all the time. She was going on date. I know. That's what I said. Yeah. Yeah. Happy happy
0:50 birthday ████ So, what do you guys think the cure for male loneliness is? Make friends. What's the thing on the Twitter feed though? Like, what are they actually saying about it? Just that it's a big epidemic apparently that there's not a lot of guys out there who don't have friends. Find your community. Make a hobby. The hell? How are you supposed to feel sorry for all them? What do they want? Honestly, you got to you got to put the work in. That's why you don't have friends cuz you ████ say this ████ It's like one of those self-perpetuating things. It's like you keep telling people you're lonely, they'll stay away from you. They know they need to go outside. They know they need to go hang out with people. If you're always dumping on the people around you, it's going to get That's true. That's true. That's very true. Cuz at a certain point, these friendless ████ and and I tell them why. I'll tell them straight up. It's probably cuz they're ████ dumb. Make Yeah. Being a friend is something you have to offer someone else. It's not like, "Hey, everybody come make me not loan back." I think
1:40 that's the mindset is like you have to like serve your friends like in a in a in a way like you have I don't even think they step out the house to even start making friends. Talk to the guy at the gas station. I think it's a good place to start. Develop a personality. Maybe the g the gas station. Practice to the gas station. Don't be so picky about friends. Wherever you go, wherever you go every day, you go try to make friends with that person. I think I think that's a good place. You think there's like a stage? No, no, no. Real hard but not too hard. If you don't make friends by a certain stage, you just don't get the chance to develop the skill. Yeah. You miss a window. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you still got to just put yourself out there cuz then you might run into somebody who's just like that. No, no, no. Joe says that they're doomed. Oh, okay. So, if you're watching this, you don't have any friends. You're not going to get friends. Yeah, you can't. Like, um you know how like when you're in your 30s and ████ it's harder to make
2:31 friends cuz everyone's doing their thing. But then it's so much easier when you're like in third grade. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Can't get rid of your friends because part of what you're doing in school is you have to make friends. It's easy as ████ to make friends as a child. Your mom's like, "You can only have 15 of your friends on your birthday." You're like, "Oh my god, dude." That's not even the whole class. To make some cuts, dude. My class is 25 people, Mom. You know, I know some people that have like found friend groups on Reddit. N don't no go there. Don't go there. No, no, no. You can't. Careful out there. be careful out there. It sounds It sounds weird to me, but it's this is like a good friend of mine that like went and like, you know, she she moved down uh from just out of out of town, if you will. And um she didn't have like a certain type of friend group here and was always like looking for one. And so she like
3:22 befriended some people on Reddit in like this thread of like other women uh in this age range who are in this area who are looking for just like, you know, coffee to talk, chitchat. And then after like siphoning through almost going on like larger kind of mini group dates like dwindled down to like three core people and now they're like kicking and talk all the time. I think with ladies that's okay. If it's ladies in a ladies group I think that's fine. You think it's it's there's guys out there that's like I'm just looking for friends and then guys are like I'll be your friend. Like what's wrong with that Steve? I don't it's just different. It's just different. A little different. I don't know man. I hate to laugh like that, but just you just got me. Not everybody has such a cool personality as you, Stephen. ████ off. I'm talking about You can't do it the same way. I'll give you an example, right? That's how you make friends. ████
4:12 off. That's exactly how you make friends. That's how you do it. That's how you do it. I went to high school with a guy who I still see him on on Twitter all the time and he's always talking about how depressed he is. That's what he's tweeting all the time is how depressed he is. So, you hang out with him all the time, right? Yeah. Exactly. Uh, I ████ fly out here and I go to San Diego and I try to hang out with wellness checks and stuff, but you know what I mean? I'm just like, dude, every day like it's just like, hey, would you like to hang out with Mr. Negative? Like, no, I don't want to really do that. But I don't even know if these guys are like that. We might be imagining that these people that are lonely are like that. Cuz I know some ████ hermits and they're perfectly fine being hermits, but I don't think they understand how they still need somewhat of a social life. So, like they're like, "I like my routine. I like being alone. I like doing my s███." And that's normal to them, right? But like longterm wise, I don't think they I
5:04 don't think they've actually enjoyed like a friend group ever. So then they don't know what they're missing. And then but I don't think they're like ████ dumb. Yeah. I'm just I'm just making that up cuz it's funnier. Yeah. But I think the loneliness is the I think a lot of the people that might be experiencing this stuff is like they just never tried. So it's like guys that never dated. It's just they never tried. But they maybe want a relationship, but you have to try. That's that's the thing quality of friendships. Maybe they have more acquaintances than actual friendships that they can actually talk to. Or maybe they had close friends that slowly, you know, people get married to get in relationships. they can't hang out as much and then these people haven't got gotten coupled up yet. So, they're kind of like, "Oh ████ like my friends aren't as close to me anymore.
5:54 What am I going to do?" I I can see that. There's also Yeah. There's also a harsh truth with a lot of people not able to see themselves in the third person to know their ████ weirdness that comes out. That's I think like they blame they blame like other factors, but it's like if you could just watch a sitcom of yourself, you'd know what character you are and that you're annoying and you have to like Yeah. It's like that's a harsh truth. Cuz like some people they'll gravitate towards you for different reasons, but if you just have no friends and you're trying, you might just be executing it badly. You know, some people don't know it's time to leave. That's a big problem out there. I think Yeah. Not everybody's this perfect person that doesn't have friends. You say that's crazy like three times. I think is about If you say what? That's crazy. While while yawning and stretching or interesting. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. That's like the third time
6:44 you told me that story. That's crazy. It's time to head out. Get the ████ out of my house. Yeah. But also like if you can't just look at your friend and be like, "Hey, it's time to bounce." Yeah. That's not a good friend. I'm going to bed. You know, Bart did it to me one time. We were at his house and then he just started to turn the lights off and then and then Gio was like, "What the conversation?" Yeah, for real. Gio was like, "What the ████ is wrong with you? They're about to leave right now. Just give them a They're putting their shoes on. The lights in the of the room you're in." Yeah, the living room. Cuz we're by the door. by the front door. And to be fair, we were talking a little bit, so it's like, I get it. But I thought we were all having a good time. I thought everyone was laughing. And then Bart just goes over. I'm done. And then Gio's like, "What the ████ is wrong?" He turned it off then on like, "No, he turned two lights in the classroom." Okay, that's my life. That's
7:34 way better. Starts starts putting the stools over turning over all the chairs. Putting the little yellow signs out. says peace of mind. He's closing closing his house up. Takes off his Yeah, I'm getting out of here. Last call was 10 minutes ago. Way better. I'm I'm flickering the lights. That's what I'm doing. Oh, you're still here, huh? Yeah. And you guys just can't take the hit. You're like, "Oh, yeah. Crazy." I'm hanging out with my friends. It'd be even funnier if you started turning all the lights really bright, like when a club's closing. Do you have brighter lights in here? Well, that works cuz everyone's ████ wasted. Yeah. Yeah. Oh god. He fall to their knees. Yeah. I know who I want to take me home. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that's uh I think people really
8:24 have to find out if they're the problem first before you start blaming. That's big. Be self-aware. Self-awareness in any relationship is a place of like I know when I was the problem is what I mean. Like I'm saying that from a place of like I look back at myself and I'm like oh that's why people didn't want to hang out with me cuz I was being a dick. Yeah. Completely. Yeah. Are people saying they want friends, but they're lonely? Like, is that what you read? Or is it just the people that there's talks about it every chiming in from every direction? Is there is there a predominance in like loneliness based off of just like loneliness in friends or like loneliness like in love and romance? Single males. It's 8.5% loneliness. ████ sake. What do you think? What do you think? You guys want data? You guys want a Harvard study? This is why I don't like hanging out with you guys. This is why I stopped calling you over to my spot. You're just so Mr. Negatives, dude. I like that we haven't
9:16 Have we not learned what Steve's hosting? Like there's nothing makes it up. We have no data. Just kind of go. It's not a made up thing. You just do this just a little bit just to pretend. I'm happy to. What do you what do you think happens like with guys that had like a social life and all that and then like their wife dies and then they they don't have anybody anything and then they just die. Oh, I don't think we would have ever heard their story. Yeah. No, but that's a big thing. That's a that's a that's a male loneliness thing, you know? Like look up the data on it. I'm looking it up right now. No, I'm just saying speculate. Like what do you guys think? I think we're too close to the generation that told you that you needed to die with that loneliness and just don't tell a soul. Like my the generation right above me was like we're talking about ████ loneliness. Like they would be like slapping each other
10:07 with that. Doesn't make sense. Yeah. That's the thing. I think my grandpa just sat in a chair and ████ you know watched war movies until he died because that he was lonely as hell. Like he he just all his friends were dying around him and he just but he never b██████ about it to the internet. He clearly wasn't a virgin. Could you imagine your grandpa ████ tweeting? He's like, "Yo, man. I'm really feeling low today." Have some dignity. Yeah. Thank you. Exactly. So lonely. My gay ass grandson won't even visit me. What I'm listening to. Hey, but when you see geysers, like I see geysers. Twitty back to him. Hey, I'm not gay. Hey, I ain't gay, Grandpa. Hey, K. You're gay, Grandpa. Have you heard this new Kanye track? I think um I see a lot of old people just out and about playing pickle ball and doing ████ tight chess and and
10:59 then they got their homies in clubs and stuff. So what are the what are the incel versions of those guys doing and they I don't know like they don't they just end up not making any friends or keeping friends but I think like you said right like you can make friends like in your own way. My grandpa used to take like again all his friends are dying around him. He used to take like silver dollars and just give them to people at the grocery store. See, and little ████ like that like made him like a fun guy in the neighborhood. Gay. Wait, what? Why is that gay? So gay. What's gay about? Hey, can we talk about I know my grand silver dollars. No, I know my grandma's not gay. I walked in on him watching porn. It was a straight porn. Yeah, that's how you know he's a What kind of porn is it? No, the data says it wasn't straight. What kind of theme though? It was a woman bend bending over in her ████ You can see her ████ in her ████ So that's so for sure. So for sure I
11:49 deserve that. That's pretty straight. Well, even the lonely guys who go out and play pickle ball a gynecology tutorial. You make pickle ball friends. Like if you just go do something and other people do that, you end up making friends doing it. Nowadays, older folks, they go play pickle ball, they get themselves a second second wife. Dude, they're cheating on everybody. That ████ happens all everybody I talk to that plays pickle ball with like all kinds of ages. They're like, "Yo, they come over here, they're ████ this person, blah, blah, blah." It's like wild. But hey, if that's If you're looking for community, go pick up a racket. Go get a second one. I heard the homes are ████ freaky, dude. That's all they do is just ████ all day. Clapping cheeks. Yep. It's senior citizen home. Yeah, because they get a ton of STDs apparently. Yep. Shut up. That's They don't want to wear no condoms. No, they get outbreaks because they're like, why? Not no one's gonna
12:40 get pregnant. Their whole life collecting all those diseases and and just putting them into old person home. Spent the whole life collecting those things. Crush it all the time. They're getting diseases just from each other. Yeah. They just they just ████ like I don't know how don't people that old have to take like physicals all the time? How do they not see them? No, but we're talking about like people like in their 70s. Like we're not talking about like 90 year olds that are like ████ still like this and ████ But even they're probably Yeah, but like when you enter the senior home, don't they find out if you have an STD? How How are they not checking your That's all they do is check your screen and everything, brother. That means that means they hit They hit old people with phone books in there, bro. We steal out of their purses and they're on camera. I Bro, I saw this woman. She was a nurse. She was literally dancing on her patients who are in the hospital. They're about to die, bro. They're literally tubed up. They're going to die any day now. This
13:31 ████ is sitting on her ████ heads twerking and filming with a with a the camera light on because you need a good flash. Yeah. And she's like shaking her ass. And she's posting it like you don't think people are going to see this. It was good content. I watched flash. Was good content. But after you watch one, you're like, I can't watch anymore. And then 20 minutes later, you're like, I got to ████ change my life. Like cuz you feel bad. You feel ████ bad watching these cuz you know these people are going to die anything now. Apparently they're getting screened for everything. And like they're getting really well taken care of in there. No, that's not getting a regular physical is not well taken care of. It's a baseline thing. Yeah, that's true. That's like that's basically like basically Oh, but even then you think they get turned away at the door if they have an STD. No, they don't get turned away, but it should say on your ████ It should say on your ████ file. That's right. Oh, yeah. Your nine grand went through for the month. Yeah, you're good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They'll steal more money for
14:21 you. These SDs are coming from visitors. It's been updated since I think it's not. They didn't come in with them. I think visitors come in and ████ them. Oh, damn, dude. And then they spread each other. Apparently, it's like it's like a stereotype like in nursing homes like from that age, what like 65? The stereotype is more so like they just do mad drugs. I think that too, but it's like a frat house. No, they're horny. They're horny, dude. I mean, think about it. I don't know if there's like giant menopause. Back this up. I know. Back this up, please. What? They're horny. Yeah, they're horny. I would be disagree. I would be too. I just kind of envision them staring at the walls all day. That's what it looks like when you go over there. Yeah, you guys are going to the 90 year old ones. I'm telling you, the ████ they're 70y old ones. The board game that they're never going to learn how to play. They know how to
15:11 play. Old folks are actually pretty vibrant. Okay. They're actually kind of fun to hang out with. Dragon going to the 90year-old. I'm talking about the 70. I train a ton of 60. Oh, then they're all ████ each other. I We train a ton of 60 and 80y olds. They're the best, dude. See, they're honestly the best clients. 60 year olds like 60 to 80. Like they're ████ the best, dude. They're really cool cuz they got great stories. They give you lollipops. No. Worthers. Worthers. But everything else is like they're just really fun to talk to. Like they have really good stories. What's What What's some cool things that they've said? Well, I can't ████ air them out on here, bro. Come on, dog. People are going to watch they're going to watch. What is this? Is this season one Nick? Season one Nick's back. One of my one of my clans for Ringworm. The pilot. Yeah, the pile of the dick again. Here we go. One of my clients was teaching me how to do uh a land like he's a he loves landscaping
16:01 right now and he has a little water irrigation system for his uh Oh, sorry. ████ Holy ████ Where am I? Explain it to me in a really easy way that I was able to understand, but that was like months ago. Where are the origgy stories? I'm not talking about orgy. Tell us about the irrigation thing again. My mom can tell you all about um koi for 2 and 1/2 hours if you want. If you ever want time for the irrigation one. That's the third time. We can jump into koi. Yeah. All right. Okay. Maybe maybe over exaggerated. One. You guys ever had to perform? Interesting stories. He talks about irrigation. But it's hard to set up though. You know what I mean? Like the way he set it up and it's a slow bird. Yeah. There's a big reveal, a big twist at the end. One slow bird. He goes, he told me, he goes, "You know, the city of Pasadena, they
16:51 have a whole tutorial, PDF of how to do it." And I was like, "No way." And for 5 minutes, I'm over his shoulder. He's like, "Yeah, see." And we're like looking at it. It was kind of nice, dude. That's like when Bart's like, "Every every bit of water used in Las Vegas goes back to the reservoir." And I'm like, "Joe, you got anything?" You guys ever performed at a senior center before? When I was a kid? Yeah. Yeah. with your church or whatever, you do a song, right? They always want ████ kids, right? I went to a crazy one, like the 90-year-old one. My first experience there ████ traumatized me, dude. Why? Cuz I'm a child and then on the front row they have the craziest ████ Like, I don't know why they would do that, but the front row they're Okay, this like the sickest ones. Imagine being like the finest old ladies. Is that what you mean? Imagine
17:43 being 6 years old, right? You're a ████ like baby ass kid. You're about to go on your performance. You're nervous. You get up. You're about to sing. And you have all these creepy toothless grandmas that are holding plastic babies and they're ████ they're out of their cuckoo. Yeah. Yeah. And then so they're just holding their ████ baby doing this ████ staring at you, and then the other ones are just like looking at you, pointing at you like this. You're trying to sing Jesus jams. Yeah. And I'm just like, Jesus loves me. This I know and then like everyone's like singing and we're looking at each other and then the ladies are like ████ holding their babies like this and ████ Weird. Yeah. And I'm like why the ████ would they do that? Like why would they put the craziest ones on the front row looking directly at the children at that
18:34 age? They're just like hey let's ████ with these kids dude that's like a GM Toro movie. Shut up dude. It's called orphanage. Leave the crazy ones in the back. They're just with him. Yeah, that whole scene was scary as hell. All of you guys leave all like do your solo, little Joe. Oh man, their hair's all ████ up. They got like three teeth and ████ One's drooling on the side just holding a ████ baby. I was like, that image was burnt into my brain. That's pretty scary. Yeah. Yeah, they probably just look so normal. Your imagination is crazy, dude. Have you ever worked like at a psych like a psych ward? Not a psych ward, but like at a hospital. Well, I used to volunteer at a hospital and we'd have to do drops in like the psych psychiatric ward, but it's like a special name for it. I forgot what the name was. But you walk by and you see some of the patients walk around. You're like, "Oh, dude, this is like Shudder
19:24 Island." That's what it feel right. That's what it said. Yeah. On the directory in the It's next to our uh next to our old studio. We had a we had a friend that worked at remember Mike worked at the psych ward and then he would walk them like around the neighborhood around our studio and we would see them. It looks you ever seen them out on walks? Yeah. Same. Have you seen them on walks later? Yeah. Cuz you got to get No, it's true though. Can we humanize these? Not cuz there's a certain time that they go. There's a certain time. ████ out on the streets. Yo, there's a retirement home. Okay. I used to work. Have you seen these people eat before? We used to work by this retirement home and they like during certain times you would just see them all kicking it outside like in their gowns like just kicking it. Like some of them be smoking and then like every time around like 1:00 p.m. you see them go for their their walks. They all go do their walk.
20:14 Yep. They do their walk and it's so understaffed. You got like one person in the front and then one to get the stragglers. But it's not enough ever. And they're just like spreading around. They they don't go in straight lines and ████ It looks crazy. It looks like a hard job. This is This is the basis for how karma gets us when we're older. Watch. Oh, I'm destined for it anyway. I'll make We're going to be lonely and crazy.
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