0:00 then he goes oh you don't like nice guys because you're always with these ████ and girls always they love that they love the victims they love when you say that and then they're proposing to get a ████ NBA game yeah yeah and the mascot's like yeah [Music] welcome back to a heartwarming episode of the careful boys today we have Colleen Jones Bart next Steve myself I we have a question from one of our esteemed followers her name's ryry and uh she had a really interesting question because she's actually in the situation sorry if I just sold you out by saying your name and make sure you join the patreon because that's the way you can
0:50 have direct questions that we can discuss on here and actually talk to y'all too that's the access point thank you for helping the show thank you so uh how do you deal with being attracted to your best friend you they're not your best friend I never been you have a hidden agenda right yeah I've never been horny for Bart ever yeah that's like but if you wanted the ████ Bart that would be an ulterior motion so the best friend thing is the only thing standing in the way of you being horny for him nah I just never found him attractive sorry about her yeah have you ever found Joe attractive maybe that'll help only no no okay dude we were like that means you're friends we were in bikinis pretty much we've seen each other naked still I didn't want to ████ them you don't think you got a hot bod no we went to we went to a spa together I saw his dick and he
1:42 saw mine I saw your dick too what'd you guys think we've all seen his dick not once did I even have does it look like a regular dick it just looked like a ████ uni a pretty nice fresh one like a Hokkaido what is uh what does Joe's dick look like me too is it like Hannah's drawing it's not that small is it to scale not that small I did not see an erect one yeah yeah I think Hannah's was erect oh no it wasn't it was small mine was the one that I saw was relaxing yeah he was taking another vacation what if you're one of your best friends and then you're not initially attracted them at all and then like as time goes you develop an attraction well things change
2:33 yeah how do you deal with that I kind of do that with Tiff we were like buds you were like really good friends we were very good friends but I would always like throw out like you know some flirt like but doesn't that also mean from the start you already had a attraction I always thought she was cute and I thought we had great conversations about stuff but like we she was like you know talk to some other idiot and I was like some I was like talking to some other you know ████ yeah idiot you know but has that ever happened to you guys where you can build attraction like to me it's always initial like I've I always have to find them attractive somehow I think physically is like the entry point right for most people and then the more you get to know them it's either less attractive or more attractive oh yeah that's how I am too yeah because it's like there's some people that you think are attractive and you start talking to them you're like God damn they're ████ like I kind of I kind of hate
3:23 you like I think you're a bad person you know and then you marry them and then [Laughter] yeah but the a little weird weird because I don't know if you can be an authentic best friend if you're madly in love with them that's not a real friendship unless there are 13 and all of a sudden they developed into a person that you are different than what you had seen before that's true like if they're both 13 and now they're both set I think in this situation it's more about like how do you navigate choosing between like do I stay friends with this person and just how and have a closeted feeling about it you gotta shoot your shot or do I yeah or do we shoot the shot and then risk ruining it but being honest you get another best friend it's fine yeah but it's kind of hard being wet for someone Non-Stop and then you're just hanging
4:14 out with them to me that's very unauthentic that's torture dude that's that's your own ████ version of hell it is being soaked for somebody you can't even ████ rub bellies together nope the whole time you're thinking about them entering you oh well you can't have ulterior motives if you want to ████ them that's being a ████ up prank you're being a bad friend yeah that's what I think you got to be like look are you gonna sit on this face or what that's what you got to do yep honestly she gotta She Gotta ████ give him an ultimatum I mean like hey dude let's do this what do you mean by loot like ruining the Friendship it's already been ruined because you're wet for him exactly well maybe it's like you're acting a certain way and then in the Friendship because ultimately you want to get their clothes off and you want to lay them down and you want to ████ bet them over and you want to step on their ████ head yeah both feet even and that's ████ up but what if it's like a feeling that caught you off guard with time huh what if it's a
5:06 feeling that catches you off guard with time because sometimes you don't even know and then you just go oh ████ then you gotta have a ████ conversation about it honestly also what happens if she says something and she doesn't wait a certain amount of time for him to manifest those feelings says what I don't know I'm just throwing a hypothetical like she's too horny and then he's like wait I didn't even know you like me wait let me think about that like if she comes up to me and she has like one of those shoe measuring things strapped at the back of her head then I'm like that I'm kind of like those what did you play with when you're a kid with all the sliders on oh dude then I'm kind of like okay I kind of pick up what you're putting down right now but at least she's being forward with it and she's being honest about the whole situation you got shoes on or you you got foot just the whole foot have you ever had
5:56 have you ever had a friend shoot their shot with you after you guys were already friends for a while yeah I feel like every girl has a story like and how did it go like what's a good example first because I know there's bad like has ever been successful in that way um but then looking back on it I was just like um always just stay really why why tell us the details because that's like it's like I think guys that are in the friend zone right now they're like there's a way out yeah so show them the way out yeah but the one that turned into a relationship was more so like oh like we're better off as friends as a romantic relationship and having like a future together it I couldn't see it working out yeah yeah yeah how come you gave him a chance yeah yeah
6:47 um because there was already like Rapport there we already had like a that friendship Dynamic did you find him attractive at that time um I found certain things about him attractive he got in yeah there it is and then what yeah I mean that's going to be the key factor with any like romantic relationship right is you have to find something attractive about them but but did he change the the friend Dynamic to now like did he like openly talk about it like what was the breakup see that's the thing is it was never like an openly conversation about like hey remember the time where we were just friends it just kind of like naturally progressed into it were you like all of a sudden making out you're like oh I guess we're here now yeah that's exactly how it happened so just you should realize you're in reverse cowgirl all the stuff yeah yeah all of a sudden I'm like I guess we don't have to talk about it I guess we
7:37 are attracted to each other what's an example of when a dude who is your friend shot his shot and then it just you should never want to see him again it was like 85 percent of the time yeah pretty much and that's how you what's like your response to that no my response is like obviously I'm more empathetic oh so you're not like you ████ it up man no now we can't do you like I just find it it's hard to be like okay well now let's just remain friends because I feel like you have to go and just get rid of that idea that we're gonna go something further yeah yeah yeah because otherwise it's just like it's hard to hang out with you in an authentic way with me knowing that you won't yeah and I'll tell you right now you'll never convince a guy that ████ ever because they'll keep they'll keep shooting their shot I think that's what makes it scary for guys to come out because they know that like if you're losing this person and then they almost like I'd rather
8:27 just be around you and be wet free but they're gonna lose but this is a female right you never go back from Hey I want I kind of want to ████ you you don't go back from that this is this is a female right yeah yeah so then it's a it's kind of flipped like Sam are you saying like she has more leverage in the sense that like okay she kind of does have more lives I think so I think I also don't know I also don't know if this is a female to male or female to female I have no idea or if they're transitioning yeah I think either way you got to just just put it out there if you really want to be or if you want to like attempt to be with that person you gotta I think you gotta be as transparent you got to be clear that's good that's good with tax though because some ████ are stupid as ████ Legends like well let's put it out there yeah like I love you so much I was just putting it out there yeah that is true that is bad that's a bad
9:18 thing every guy who comes to me and says that I'm like instantly like absolutely let's make this happen she's so cool [Laughter] go to the holiday that's a little too much uh circumference for me see that's why I know men don't rule the world because that ████ doesn't happen does that come in a medium yeah tell me the size it's about it's a healthy just opening it up you take the shoe measure dude that's like a meme right there it's like it's like what women think guys want and what guys want is Parts ████ that's the scenario that's the dream no but I think that's the situation is like their best friends
10:08 she's attracted she doesn't know if it's worth the risk of like you're gonna meet somebody else I like for me you're gonna meet somebody else why stay in a situation exactly but what if both friends had the same time yeah you got to find out that's why it's better to have certainty than this like lingering whatever yeah because once you like someone I guess this is why I'm not I'm never into these situations is because once that is like how I feel it's really hard to live in that gray of like continuing a friendship that isn't authentic because in my mind I'm not being authentic with this person anymore yeah so then whether they reject it accepted or whatever it might be uncomfortable but then if I have the self-control too maybe like
10:59 like be okay with the fact that they rejected me and then can I now shut down my desire and then I can find them attractive but then now like I can I go back to that like that's gonna that's gonna take time though too like like the dynamic between it's not like somebody you just found attractive and you've been talking for a few months like this is someone who's your best friend is according to like the prom but guess what this friendship is maybe the most overrated Concept in the ████ Universe when it comes to ████ like this because all the friends I had like this growing up that I didn't tell I didn't shoot my shot with or whatever I don't even ████ talk to them anymore yeah just shoot your shot get it out of the way and move on that's so true that's very true yeah I mean like well I live in purgatory yeah and also are you really a good friend if you have such a big secret with your friend yeah that's exactly how I yeah it just doesn't feel
11:49 real No like is the friendship authentic if you can't be completely a hundred with them oh dude especially your best friend yeah and also too you always have to Ace up your sleeve because you could be like look I think I have feelings for you and then if they say no there you go I was just I was just kidding I was kidding yeah I was playing I was ████ up got you yeah there's a camera over here I can't believe you believe me you set up cameras just to like cover your ass you just cover your ass dude so I was so we're gonna hang out tomorrow I remember I was talking to this girl um early 20s and she was super cool like ████ rolled motorcycles and all this ████ and then like I was like damn dude you're like pretty awesome um and then like let's let's start
12:40 dating or whatever and then um like a month later she was like oh I feel so bad I'm like why she goes okay so I have this like best friend I was super into him I didn't know if he liked me back and then he like noticed that we were kind of talking and so he felt like he needed to really come out and say like I really do like you so you don't lose to you yeah and then for her I mean I at the time I was like I get it you known this dude for years and I wasn't even in that stage of thinking about marrying her or anything I was just in the like yo she's fine I'm having fun yeah and then so I was like wow that's crazy I didn't really feel like hey man you're supposed to be a me I thought that was really cool because that's sexy I thought I was like dude you guys in my head I was like you guys waited so long for why because both of them were
13:32 afraid um so they were on the same and I thought that was her gay best friend I didn't know he was into her but they that was a that was a story of just like this you know so insulting what are you a gay best friend burn I had no idea yeah and then so she was like I think we're gonna really try and like and then like you know I've been you know I liked him he liked me back and I think we just too scared to break up the the best friend yeah thing and I was like that's tight but they both like each other that's like a dream come true that's great exactly I didn't have any attachment to her like that I and then well that's good that you came along and you were like the time bomb for them to like get their ████ out yeah because they're ████ lacking so hard you were an accelerator it probably made him feel threatened like oh ████ like no ████ you
14:22 ████ gay best friend yeah so that's bad branding you gotta be ████ most cases that doesn't happen in most cases I hear mostly guys in love with a girl and they're making it up in their mind that's the biggest case I see you you're watching this I see you and then they pour out their ████ heart and the girl's like you manipulating sack of ████ I was I thought we were friends I confined it into you and then and he goes oh you don't like nice guys because you always put these ████ and girls always they they love that they love the victims they love when you say that and then they're proposing to get a ████ NBA game yeah yeah and then [Laughter] but on the flip side I haven't really
15:13 heard many like instances of girls being fat like they're like the best friends they have a secret crush and then they like the guy because that's the only example that I remember clearly of uh it might like like experience right I don't have any female friends that are like that because I think when they get along with a guy like heavily it's probably because of Attraction 100 dude I had a chicken High School who was in who's my friend who was then told me she was into me and it was weird after that straight up because I wasn't into her at all and it was just like straight up strange after that yeah weird weird Vibes must be nice dude but we don't know the dynamic between her I didn't take advantage of anything yeah we don't know the dynamic between her and her like best friend right but I kind of feel like the best policy is to
16:03 be authentic and and like ruin the relationship it's not a real relationship it's not a friendship anymore I would like to know how different it is when it's two girls like what that I bet it's the same I bet it's very similar but you know like women are just better I know women dude I know two girls I know two different girls have dated each other and they I don't think they were best friends already they were best friends they're best friends and then they and then they ████ and then they were lovers for a while huh and then they make it all the way through yeah enough long enough they were they were together for a while you know but then but like women are such better communicators I wonder if it's like an easier time and sign readers too so I feel like the chicks they probably even know each other that they like each other somehow yeah but they also they also think more than guys so they might they might overthink the situation that's true they also tell secrets and ████ better than guys do oh that's true
16:53 yeah but high school girl friendships be looking kind of gay yeah they get jealous like they like don't hang out with her too much and I'm like damn you're so you're like a jealous boyfriend what the hell is wrong like mother Henning like they're like they're close yeah they're like the way that they're close it's like are you gay if you call them gay then they'll stop him from doing that I think that is a big thing and then they ████ make out at parties and then it's like yeah I hate it I get so bad that is a big thing though where there's like a possessiveness where like some girls they don't want you they like seem like a door right in between they're like sister lovers because they don't want you to take away their like their their fun you know yeah that's true and then little girls be like ████ locking arms the whole day through cuddling and ████ guys do the same Saving Silverman type
17:43 ████ too I was into this chick from like ████ middle school or no High School freshman year all the way till like forever basically like like till um gosh I got with like two girlfriends ago but like that was like I was in her for like a decade almost right but yeah it was just never like the timing was never right and it was like all that unrequited love ████ stuff that you build up in your head and then like the time that she told me that she was in love with me I was with this other chick and I'm such a loyal ass ████ that I was just I just stopped talking to her straight up and then we reconnected a couple years ago yeah it's a breach and I'm like I'm not gonna be ████ up but I'm not gonna ever do that to somebody right and then um yeah just never quite lined up but but that was I know that I wasn't being a good friend to her right because I had those ulterior motives that's why I have such a strong stance on this topic
18:34 because I remember those feelings and how that was and how I would pick up the phone and all this other ████ and being such a good guy but really I was like you know putting down payment on a future ████ session yeah and I think that's true to create boundaries I was going broke dude yeah create boundaries I was lost at all that's like the perfect way to phrase it so honestly it really is I I have a friend that um I was attracted to when I was single and um she's in a committed relationship and she wanted to work with me and I told her no because too ████ hot that's why and I'm gonna get you to cheat on your ████ boyfriend too hot to him you're too ████ hot and I was like no like and I feel like those situations you gotta create
19:25 boundaries you do or otherwise she's gonna get locked jaw yeah exactly do it do it do it you want this to happen see like you want that really you want to be a billy mouth bass it's absolutely dangerous we flirt too much it's too dangerous the connection's too strong too ████ it's a fact what are you gonna do how old is she do you know I um I believe I want to say 20s oh just oh bro just ████ tell them dude you're never gonna ████ talk to him again you're never gonna talk to him again because you're gonna be somebody else and it's gonna be fine and if if best case scenario you end up with them and you guys are both happy and great real best friends don't try to get pregnant from each other okay real friends don't ████ each other's mouths and ████
20:22 yeah you can call your ladies your best friend yeah nope just the ████ buddy that's real alpha male baby just a paid off ████ said foreign
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