0:00 [Music] hi everybody hello welcome back to another amazing episode of the careful boys where we have Jared feather over here my favorite part about that is you intro me and obviously there's just recorded back to back and you guys clap for me one time in episode yes yeah cuz we're happy you're here love you man yeah we're happy here we're excited you're here too like we'll we'll show the energy when we're not excited about the person sitting in that chair yeah they don't get claps and they also don't come back yep they don't come back damn I'm a honorary Asian at this point I earned my status you're Caucasian we're just trying to be white adjacent that makes sense going the other way whitej our resent guy so uh there was this moment about a week or two a week
0:50 ago I think me and Bart were really really excited about the idea of Nick coming out to Vegas to hang out with us oh my God are we all actually vegan V we're we're vegans we're vegans yeah we're trying to get everyone vegan we're trying to but then Nick bailed on us because some whatever opportunity to work with the UFC or something it wasn't me I was riding coiles David cuz they pitched it I was supposed to go see Bart and when they told me to go you going to go see me yeah well you were going to be there too but you were also leaving on Sunday right don't don't bring in my schedule anyway I was supposed to go I was supposed to stay with Bart and he made made all these he made this whole plan he you know cleared out his house for us so then when they said that I had to go to UFC 311 with David I was like nah
1:40 I can't because I'm going with Bart I already felt really bad Bart and Anthony Bart Anthony and Steve and potentially Ryan out there what you're not in Vegas right now are you no not wait you went to UFC to Bar no oh no no it was their thing so then he he didn't come he didn't come so yeah he went with the casual but I'll be going to Vegas next week I'll be there next week oh oh wait they didn't have the fight at Vegas no it was in LA we just figured this out yesterday this is why I don't send you my bench PRS and stuff like that you don't talk to me either fair enough yeah you're the least active in the group chat but talk about the UFC Fair talk about the UFC stuff what was what was what was it in the middle of something here I'm yeah I don't respond to the group chat as much but uh we went to the UFC it was my first UFC I've ever been to what yeah it was the first for a professional fighter what the ████ that's like a rapper that's never been
2:31 to a rap concert I know what red next have never thrown a punch it have been to like 10 and they were sitting all behind me dude I bet they were the fans are wild the fans are ████ wild how did you like it it was cool it was dope um because I you know you get to see all the behind the scenes that you don't get to see on TV like all the in between you get to and we we had really good seats the production was at the at the in Dome and they it's a new Arena I guess or Stadium whatever on TV the into a dome looks sick it looks really insane it was really dope and everything was brand new which was real nice and like the screens were dope like everything was just was awesome the funnest part was finding all the guys in the crowd who could murder you dude cuz there's so a lot of them are just like normal folks but then there's a couple guys that walk with like ████ up ears they're rushing as
3:22 ████ they have the the chin strap and you're like this guy is an Olympic CH like he's an Olympic medalist or something and you could see him and he spot him you're like oh ████ look at that guy damn do do you feel like if this was back in the day and then they're like Vikings or something and you're like a poor little farmer just ready to get your ████ torn by them yeah wait ████ torn by them yeah yeah they would tear ████ specifically they take any asse me I want to go back to how Nick lay you down though what happened yeah let's let's let's dig into that and then he oh yeah yeah you ditched us what happened yeah I did really feel really bad about like was it worth it though like yeah low key can I can I be honest looks it was can I be honest I kind of wish I went to Vegas instead really why shut up no like the UFC is so sick the UFC was sick but it was also like you're around it all the time I'm going to sound like a a really
4:12 bad guy nothing beats the at home experience though kind of because of Joe Rogan's uh well it's just like when you're at a fight bro you're sitting down for like 6 hours and it's hard to see you don't get to oh so you went from the beginning you're you're looking through the ████ and we we went in the middle of the show like we didn't even go start from the very very the fight started like 2:00 we got there like 4ish so we're there from like 4: to like 10:00 like it was awesome it was ████ great you could eat a lot of corn dogs though I know but it was just like this is I'm I'm good off this like after you have one ████ like chicken tender you're like I'm good dude I wish I you don't like life Sports yeah I don't like I don't like life Sports either I'm the same way not for 6 hours I we next time we'll go for like the main card and that's where we missed out but it was like we had to watch and it was dope cuz I never got to experience anything like that um um and unfortunately what's even more spoiled
5:02 of me is like when we were cornering fights we would be like on the ring floor we'd be there all the time you be in the back and it was it was interesting to see the fights from a different perspective like that cuz I've never sat down and watched a live show like that we're always in the we're always in the locker room like and it's that's not fun either cuz you're waiting for 6 hours and you're just nervous the whole time and then you go out and you go coach somebody and then they get knocked out you're like great let's do it again next week let's go to Applebees guys so like that knockout wasn't that bad right like back to the gym on Monday you know like it's just kind of a ████ different experience so to be able to watch it was really cool but like when you see when you see guys get knocked out on TV and you're like whoa that's crazy and they cut to commercial was ████ up is like homies knocked out for like like 5 6 minutes and then you see them stand up and they're all wobbly
5:53 trying to get to their stool and you're like bro this guy like his life might be different after this you know like that's what they don't show you yeah exactly like and then when you're up close when you hear the the the like the sounds of like your the bones hitting skull oh yeah like it's just a different feeling that sounds kind of tight it is it is super tight it's a different tight it it's a it's a different type how far you guys were you from The Ring we were we had really good seats we had really good seats but um it was still pretty far like you yeah like whenever I'm there I'm like still looking at the screen I'm not ever looking at the cage yeah and it's hard cuz you're trying to like look at both and you're like which one do I look at you know but um while we were in the bathroom right after the fights me and David were peeing right next to each other same same Ural stall sick we just hear a loud
6:43 like like right outside the door people were stared scrapping what it was this Russian dude fighting this little like little little thort little Mexican dude oh no the Russian guy was beating his ass I didn't see but he was like you saw me like I sck them you saw that like every you saw he pointed right at me right when I came out from washing my hands he saw you saw that you saw me right like I punched him he hit me but I got him good his shirt was off so he was like he need the Russian guy was he needed witness no no the Mexican dud Mexican dud the Russian guy was taken away I was going to say he sounds Mexican when I saw when I saw that when I saw the Russian Armenian dude whatever he was I was like that was one of the scary ones he was one of the ones with the ████ up ears that looked very sketch so I was like I don't know what happened you know how the you don't know how the fight started they were arguing about who won the fight no way which Russian guy won but it was just like the
7:34 fans are like loud they're screaming the whole time yeah guys are like trying to crack jokes they're like show me your tits you know things like that that's always fun um that is kind of the annoying part of watching UFC Live is sometimes you have idiots yelling dumb things I I like the commentators that think they know and then there's the people that they do the ████ thing with the arm and ████ they get drunk and they start ████ acting stupid as ████ and then people want to like puff their chest out it shows the patience of like High Fighters though cuz they're just sitting in like the front rows just like listening to all this ████ and they're just like sometimes they're like insulting the fighters too yeah and it just shows how patient they are cuz they're just like I know I'd kill this guy yeah just eat it don't ████ say anything they can't say anything yeah there there's one the one of the guys who fought he's famous for like beating the ████ out of fans great guy yeah that he beats his ████ out of
8:25 face he was walking by there's a Heckler he jumps on the fence ████ goes over the fence and he goes up to the fan and the F like and then he socks him up and then I think he was that that cji is that the one he grabbed him by his head cuz he had like a little curly head and he started shaking it I was like oh I'll ████ your ass up and he's like I'm sorry I was just joking I think people I think fans need that ████ though for sure it's the same guy who's in people's ████ comments that's tight when I see Fighters beat up on fans actually makes me really happy did he get like charges pressed for that no I don't think so oh dude that's dope there was one fan who was a the guy who was supposed to coincidentally fight that had a pull out on Saturday was our mean cat Armen he was walking out this guy is filming him on his walk out and he's saying ████ you so Armen as he's about to fight turns around socks the fan and keeps walking and then the fan
9:17 later goes yeah I was tripping I was tell him to go ████ him that was on me I'm not going to press no charges that's kind of cool though that was kind of cool that guy's such a ████ idiot cuz man just spent like the last 30 minutes in like his warm-up room getting ready to go to war he's like in fight he's coming out like I will destroy anything in my path you have a guy ████ eating popcorn hey ████ boom what the he's warmed up and already punched the bag a little bit and he went out and won the fight that was crazy that's hot that's crazy if there's some kind of like Splash Zone basically where like you can't press charges like it's seaw world yeah yeah that would be dope you get front row beat Zone yeah and then everyone it's like ooh maybe I'll get ████ up today if you if you talk ████ to this point you can't suit
10:08 it's like a comedy show where people want to get roasted so they get the front row seats and they're like oh I hope they pick me what does it feel like cuz like maybe you've probably been in this situation what does it feel like if you have a friend that's fighting in the ring and you got someone behind your head that's talking about your friend like kill him kill this ████ like I that's annoying yeah it's it's definitely annoying but it's it's just part of the game like there's nothing you can do about it like there's been times where you're fighting and you hear the coach saying the same thing about the guy you're fighting they want you to ████ kill remember one of the fights I saw there was I was listening to the coach in the other corner and she's telling the f ████ kill him kill him and it's like that's not very useful advice right now either it's like that's not going to do nothing that's what I'm trying to do yeah that's what we're trying to do here you know like that is kind of the point right and then afterwards you're like man that's a little ████ up that you were trying to tell her to kill me like that's not that cool you know there there's that side
10:58 the victim side there's a lot of antics too like you know how like um in the NBA like you might try to sell a foul yeah just so you can get the game to swing a certain way so it's kind of like playing into the politics like coaches will even do that too where like let's say his fighter is getting pummeled they like oh that's nothing that's nothing cuz you know the judges are like oh that's nothing yeah that's true like they're just trying to sway they're trying to sway things so everyone's screaming all kinds of ████ there's all kinds of crazy like multi-layered strategies going on it's nuts it's hard to kind of like decipher which one's real or which one not we interviewed uh Sean Strickland's coach he's like a famous UFC fighter that everyone he's he's like really funny the bad Eric nixi and he's from extreme coutour in uh Vegas and he was saying when they had the UFC fights and there was no crowd cuz and during Co yeah during Co so the judges are cage
11:49 side so he had one guy in his Corner every time his fighter landed something like oh that was great just like positive encouragement the whole time to help sway to judges and then the fight yeah for real M it kind of works because when we saw the fight on Saturday we originally thought one of the fighters had won um but one of the fighters the guy morab who was beaten on every the champ every time he did something he just raises hands up and just was like doing crowd work the whole time he was really heavy crowd work like and he wasn't really like the positions were kind of neutral right it wasn't like he was winning in those exchanges didn't he even have control yeah but it was just like it was like nothing like they were just like 50/50 but he just looks like he's winning the crowd is loud they're they're going nuts every time he raises his hands up and then that ultimately what won him to fight cuz they're
12:40 they're entertainers at the end of the day and like cuz it swayed the judges and the judges were like yo that ████ guy won and when you're in the arena you're like yeah that guy ████ won you you don't think outside of outside of that crowd work you don't think he had those last three rounds I think it was so close where it was like that ended up being the deciding factor you know like when it's like the margins are that tight that those decisions will win him the fight what do you think about the AI judging then are they going to do AI judging yeah like have you seen that yet where there's like they have the three they have like the three judges and then there's like there's like an additional like AI judge where like I don't know if they count it but they just shows you what the AI judge think interesting is it just a statistical thing like because it can register like strikes how many Ki I don't know I I don't know if they really like I doubt they like Factor it in but it's just to show you like here's what the AI judge said because it's the
13:31 AI going to put like be able to like cuz you know sometimes they they'll comment and be like yeah he's really huffing and puffing it looks like his stamina is really down right now he's tiring him out like that kind of stuff also affects the way you feel about where the fight's going yeah I think it would depend on how they wait it like a takedown versus like is that equal to three punches and then I think once they figure out how they weight all the the damage to each other then the fighters will know how to play that algorithm mhm you know cuz they might be like oh ████ if it like takedowns more I'm going do more though well they already do and it's a scoring system to begin with and you have cage control AI would be better than anybody AI would be better than any ████ human judge and it'll get better too 100% yeah cuz humans could like start drifting away and like yeah and honestly I don't give a ████ how tired the guy was if he's if he has cage control but he's like ████ this but he's still Landing shots and he has the most shots landed the most control he wins I don't give the ████ how tired he is like the
14:21 AI is doing a perfect job it's a scoring system at the end of the day right like yeah that's what I thought judges did I thought that they looked back and they go this guy got this many kicks this guy got this many like knockdowns whatever and then they go okay well clearly yeah they're supposed to yeah a lot of times the judges don't even know the sport and you can't pay off AI what because because they're their government um they'll take like a boxing judge from another Federation we just need judges yeah and cuz they had to be licensed or whatever what and they like oh they don't really know Jiu-Jitsu so like oh maybe takedowns aren't that much oh what the hell what it's that that's why that some like they have a criteria but it's not guaranteed that that they're going to follow it and they're not going to be like ████ how about boxing though cuz every single time I see in the comments with boxing everyone's like this is why everyone thinks we're a joke and it's everything's a ████ scam yeah there's
15:11 one lady in particular that everyone could think of in both mu Thai MMA boxing at the highest level she was one of the boxing judges I think for Manny Pacquiao too uh Manny Pacquiao and like uh Floyd Mayweather or something like that um her name is Adelaide bird and everyone says she's blind as a bat bro like she like that's like the joke on hers like she can't see anything what the ████ is she judging then she just uh she's a staple of the Las Vegas Athletic commission and uh she's a judge forever and she is on the wrong side all time politics exists in every sport man yeah it's just part of but how much of this do you think is also influenced by gambling in the mob I bet that's a big deal too cuz I think people forget how much ████ money is on the line in all of these Sports probably a larger portion back in the day it's probably less now there was a big MMA coach who got in trouble for and he has a really
16:02 good camp he was getting in trouble for betting on his like his fighter had an injury and he bet on the other guy he was doing shady ████ like that he had a whole betting business that's just logical though his F's injury that's inside of trading ████ but imagine you find out your coach bet against you you'd be like ████ this coach but what if he was and you're supposed oh that's different that's the other thing cuz a lot of times the coaches I mean the coaches get paid off off your purse so you're like okay so I'm supposed to give this guy 10% of what I just earned ████ that ████ well to be fair though if you like losing though it's kind of like oh well at least he gets his bread if they're both in on it that's different I yeah like if he gives him 50% of what he earned I bet against myself and then I lose I Rigg my own fight that's tight honorable man was there like a huge NBA scam like that who
16:55 the ████ was that there was a documentary on with the refs no it was the players oh oh there's a there's a what's his Face's brother um I know you're talking about he would bet on himself and he would take himself out of games too the odds on it he might have been uh on the he his brother plays hella well is ao's brother is it him no no it's a famous brother yeah he got in trouble like huge for that that's the real story he was throwing his own his own self how much of this is not about the game and it's about the business well NBA is like there really no porter jontay porter Toronto Raptor Porter brother yeah that's who I do think like in sports where the games don't matter as much cuz you could like win like lose however of many games and still make it to the playoffs and you there's probably lots of money to be made but I think in a sport like uh like MMA every win or loss
17:48 either propels you exponentially to the next like level that might be a little bit harder MH yeah cuz if you lose that's it you're out you're lose so you don't want to if you're number five you lose lose boom you're fighting number 15 next you lose again you might be out of the organization and you're done it's Cut Throat yeah okay let's rig some fights guys
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