0:00 I can get Court marshal for this which is pretty much like military jail you know I'm like in a foreign fing country and could you be dishonorably discharged for some ████ maybe wait what was the story about that I don't know and it's [Music] like welcome back everybody to another super sick episode of the careful boys today we have Mr Walter Hong back in wal walty YY honey sounds very cute all right uh we've got a really really fun careful boys off the Record prompt he he submitted by one of our loyal patrons which one is it say their name it's it's x a so I think it's exalt exalt in the
0:50 highest so I kind of like that all right so this is the question what was a moment in your life that you thought you would never recover from career or reputation wise I thought he said was a fun one yeah never recover from sorry exalt Bart doesn't like you go first since it's so fun for you walty what okay what that I would a moment in your life that you thought would uh you would never recover from career or reputation wise oh man I don't my my fear Gene is so high that I don't think I've ever done anything with where I'm like this is going to ruin my care I take big risks I don't really take huge risks um it may seem like it like if I'm when on stage and people see
1:40 me but like for me they're that's none of those risky it's just but even doing standup comedy is so crazy though yeah that in of itself seems like a yeah you do that all the time but I mean like I think yeah people see it but for me when I'm on stage none of it's risky it's just it's all like you know I just kind of see the whole thing what do you consider is risky like like with money or like with your life or like things like that cuz like that standup comedy is risky in in like emotional risky cuz it's scary yeah well okay so for me when I when I go on stage like I don't get nervous or anything like I don't have I don't have that Gene but in terms of like let's say like Financial like Risk like someone goes hey can you invest like x amount of dollars in this it's like oh I don't know like you know like giving you all that like that that's something I would be like uh I'd be reluctant but like on I guess okay one thing I haven't done this but like one thing on stage that I know Comics don't
2:30 want to do is they don't want to change their character because if you change your character you you you take the chance of alienating your fans that uh came up with you so a lot of times Comics won't change even though they think like oh I think this character is the one that's going to make me take off a lot of them won't do it because they're afraid that they're just going to lose their they're going to lose their audience so that I think would be something that's like um you might not recover from but I haven't done that cuz like my fear gen is not even when you're like younger like the first time you like bombed uh you know while doing stand up I've never bombed so you're amazing the first time I bomb the first time I remember bombing the whole crowd was British there only 15 20 so it doesn't count they don't have humor but they're idiots though they lost the war bro sorry I wasn't telling a bunch of dry jokes yeah like no one laughed I I
3:23 rushed through my material it was supposed to be a 10 minute or 15 minute set I rushed through in like 5 minutes and I just got off stage was it was it in the UK no it was here I don't know why is it they I don't know it was just one of those shows it's a British Cultural Center dude but like yeah riskwise I mean I wish I could he was at the London Club he was at a fish and chip spot huh I I wish I wish I could have done the I wish had I known the 555 yeah one5 thing I I would have been able to maybe they thought they were at a spoken word show and they're like this is poetry yeah I thought it was a poetry contest it might have been yeah that that was probably like the worst cont I think I've gotten myself into a bunch of like regretful or like doubtful situations but I don't think I ever
4:13 thought I wouldn't be able to recover cuz I feel like if I can breathe I can recover it's just a matter of dealing with my own like even like you know the the story of like when I was the Korean translator in the military like that's like a very like oh ████ oh ████ oh ████ oh ████ like I can get Court marshal for this ████ which is pretty much like military jail you know I'm like I'm in a foreign ████ country and then could you be dishonorably discharged for some ████ maybe wait what was the story that I don't know and it's like and it's like old this old school Marine Corps right old school Marine Corps meaning like my my boss could just take me to the back and just beat the ████ out of me too and then come back like handle it the old school way so there's like that's tight so like ████ like that like I'm like but he's not going to kill me yeah so I'll be able to recover or if like if I new school yeah
5:05 if I throw me throw me in jail I'm like I don't know 10 years or some ████ maybe I'll come out in 10 years 10 years like I don't know my mind so pragmatic dude this question is specifically did say like career or reputation wise you know what I mean versus like your life is in danger you know yeah so like did you feel like I feel like reputation I'm like that's ████ legendary hey you know that Chinese guy that pretend to be Korean careerwise if you got Marshall that's a that's a total career thing like that's what ████ fairy tales are made of yeah people we named this mountain after that guy I I've had plenty of moments of uh Oh's and I think uh oh is like the best way I can explain it because there's been moments where like for example I think my one of my biggest oos is when I was like 13 and I was
5:56 caught painting on the wall graffiti right like some kids were were watching us they're playing basketball and then as soon as we were done they they called the cops and all that stuff so they're waiting for us so as soon as we got out there it was like oh uh-oh police and then I was like I'm going to run this way and uhoh bike police uhoh uhoh uhoh and I was like oh man I'm not going to I don't know what's going to happen now it was my first time like oh man man man cuz I was like oh ████ well I mean like I don't know the process when am I'm going to do go to jail from here D that's got be scary as ████ dude you're like 13 that is scary but here's the thing though like when you're in a group I think that also when you're not alone and someone else is more scared than you then you hide your fear and going like it's going to be all right
6:46 dude yeah yeah yeah and there was this big ass Simone kid with us and he was younger than us I think he was like 13 or whatever but he was crying so hard and he was such a big dude that we were just like no it's cool it's it's okay cuz you don't know my consing you don't know my mom man hey that's true though his parents probably gave it to bad she beat his ass in the police station his mom's probably 7t I know I don't know how big she is man yeah one of your friends were like oh they're not going to even know it's us and then like really cuz you you tagged I Joe like I I don't know we have paint all over our hands bro like it was so bad and we're at the station and like we're just like ████ this is I don't know what's going on and our buddy was 18 at the time he just turned 18 it was his birthday that's bad damn yeah and and then the cops were laughing at him like oh ████ you're an adult you get to go in the big
7:36 boy jail and he started tears started rolling down his eyes like that they were smiling they were like cynical like that cops have a funny sense of humor looking back I'm like oh dude these guys were just laughing at these children and then they're just probably like like scare them straight type ████ I don't know dude they're probably also thinking like why am I doing this but they have to do it right cuz they someone called it they had to catch us they're like I don't want to sit here and catch kids ████ doing graffiti like I want to catch bad guys right and then so the whole time they're just like roasting the ████ out of us and then like our aliases and just um but then for him like his eyes just ████ the tears just rolled down his eyes and all we see is him going into the door and just the door slamming behind and we're just looking at each other like ████ what's going to happen to him that was one of
8:26 the last times I've seen this guy and then like he never got out imagine well we don't know what happened from that point on and our our parents wouldn't let us like talk to each other and all that stuff and then I went to like the interrogation room and then they're just asking me all these questions and I was like ████ just don't talk just lie just make up ████ you know and then my parents come and then they have to let me go but then that was like one of my scariest like ████ what's going to happen now like do I go to jail and then for several months it was just like I can't smoke weed anymore cuz they're going to check my piss and then like it was just these uh feelings of am I going to go to jail forever I just painted on the wall how does that make any sense you know yeah and then being on probation you have to constantly go to your probation officer and like be like yeah I was at school and then I did this and then they sometimes call your school
9:16 and then if you got caught ditching that day you like violated and you could go to jail and ████ and I'm like I just painted a wall dude you know dude remember remember that just reminds me way less hardcore but only because you guys were there that it's actually funny and I maybe mentioned this on here before but ████ Australia yeah when me and Lawrence Cal got caught up at customs and we they wouldn't let us out for over like 3 hours or something like that and so uh basically um me and Lawrence uh one of my buddies we had these tiger suits for this dumbass show that we were doing on the TIC tick tour where I first met these guys were they skin tight no they were furry they were like ████ be better if they were SK tight they're very comfortable we did this whole LT gray type set right um but the thing is our boy Victor who never ████ sent us like all of our papers and stuff cuz he was a point of contact with the dude what's his name Ty yeah Ty yeah I think so Ty yeah um we just
10:08 didn't have any documents and stuff and we were young in traveling at the time so like we're like What do we say a customs I don't know so we ████ we're so stupid but we made up a lie we're like maybe this will make sense why we have these tiger suits cuz we're performing at like what like our our friend's wedding or something yeah let's just say we're like dancing at our friends's wedding versus like working in the country we had no ████ idea a lot of people weren't doing this type of stuff especially in our age and at our group at the time time so like if you didn't learn you would learn the hard way and I didn't know that Australia was going to be one of the strictest countries when it came to this those types of customs and laws so then we ████ go off into Customs then they start asking us questions obviously things are conspicuous uh and they pull us over to the back and they start checking our stuff they like can we look into your bags like sure we start getting nervous they pull out these tiger suits like what are you doing with this we're like all right now is the time to tell our practiced and rehearsed live even though it's not rehearsed at all it was made up on the plane as we were landing and so we were like oh yeah
10:59 we're going to perform our cousin's wedding all cool we're going to do random drug tests you know they just like wipe ████ and they're like oh you have traces of this apparent ████ Le my boy Lawrence has like six traces of everything on all the things they're like you have heroin on your camera I'm like how the fued dude dude that's I have Jeffrey Epstein habits okay I take pictures of all my drugs it's it's crazy though cuz like literally I didn't know the level of ████ that like was possible because I didn't I know every ████ drug that I think my boy's done but I was like you never done heroin how's that even possible but the fact that they like legitimately found traces or whatever right so they keep on probing us and being like yo like what are you guys doing we try to stick to our lie cuz we just thought if we just stick through this maybe it'll work and then it goes so far that they're like we got to take you to the hospital we got to get you guys uh X-rays and I'm sitting there I'm trying to ████ convince I
11:49 was like look I will I will dookie in a bowl right here to show you I have no drugs up on my ass like please just like believe us right and it gets so serious they're calling other cops that finally me and him break this is after 2 hours like we got to tell you something man we're not here to perform W we're honestly just scared we're here to perform for this tour and we just didn't have the documents our friend has it we just didn't have we got scared he got more pissed at us cuz we lied but he also knew that like that was the truth that was the extent of it so they took us back and then right when they were about to deport us literally going to deport us back to America is when the promoter called him like where are you guys and I'm like oh my God please talk to the guy and then that's 30 minutes later we got saved wow cuz they had the papers cuz they had the papers we just weren't given it wasn't given to us or whatever you know what I mean and they were about to deport you guys literally imagine if you guys got deported we
12:40 wouldn't have been friends because that's when we all became friends and my career would have been over yeah for you that's that that's that you really answer the question oh you know what you want to hear some real ████ cuz that was fake ████ I would say um probably the last Big O oh moment is when uh some of our past Jak members left oh yeah that was real because you know a lot of things that we share in our Vlogs JK news and all that stuff most of it's entertainment value right and we have our actual Dynamic behind the camera which is we really try to create like a family based environment we go on trips together we're at each other's weddings you know we're at each other's kids events birthdays on all that and so we really try to cultivate like this family and so when the past JK members we're going to leave we had something that was
13:32 said off camera in a very amicable way and this would be great for all of our careers as we move on and then a video comes out that was completely out of left field that was not what was agreed upon stating like only one side right and then obviously during that super like woke era everyone wants to Stick it to the Man so in this ecosystem people think me and Joe or JK news is the man so everyone jumps on that on on on that narrative and for me and Joe like we're big picture thinking so we're like okay we can see how this is going to play out there's this person's truth then we have our truth and then it's going to go into the receipt phase then we're going to share texts past emails you know all that other stuff then we're going to have to get other other people involved and we can see this giant drama unfolding versus which distracts from
14:23 our ultimate goal which is just making funny videos for people to enjoy and laugh so for us I think the the Big O ████ moment at least for myself cuz I don't even think me and like Joe ever really talked or like really debriefed about it was like now we only have one truth that lives on do we just weather the storm and wait for this truth to die out on its own and we continue to do our own thing or do we ever reveal Our Truth until this day we've never really revealed our side DAV is the homie where he has seen the whole growth happen so David is like ████ that I got to share at least what I know about the situation so that was really cool for David to even come out but during that moment it was one of those things where I'm like dude the way that the picture is framed is completely inaccurate and skewed in One Direction if people knew what happened outside and were able to put even two and two together from the Vlogs and you can see the actual culture and
15:14 dynamic that was here and that was almost like damn like everything we tried to create could have been spoiled like literally through like one video Yeah M yeah damn that's crazy that was something that we didn't know that if we're going to come back cuz it did take a minute you know like a a lot of like uh it was kind of cool cuz then a lot of the haters left anyway so the people that loved us and saw and were smart enough to see the real narrative they stayed and thank you to you guys and a lot of you guys like stuck around and even join our patreon stuff like that but um that was probably like one of the moments where I was like oh ████ I felt that a lot of the stuff wasn't even about us it was about them taking out their anger on how they felt about their own bosses they're just you know unhappy with their own lives because like a lot of that stuff I think it was just the
16:04 time of Co everyone was just getting angry cuz it was like cancel stuff was happening everywhere dude and I do think that also that was also during a time when YouTubers were getting exposed for a lot of fraud ████ so people were just kind of like dude I loved watching Everybody not just JK but like everybody and I'm finding out that all these people that I loved and looked up to are not the people that I thought they were I think we got grouped up into all of that ████ because it does come as a shock because they do see the Vlogs and they do see that everything was so like cool and it was a family environment and all these things and then it's like all of a sudden wait I've been lied to so um a lot of that stuff I think people wanted Clarity on but my perspective was just like we never were drama so I'm not
16:55 going to pursue that although a lot of YouTubers like they get get so many views and so like they Skyrocket from drama and people forget the drama but they stay as an audience right and I know that's a method that is used in social media all the time but for me I rather keep a tight-knit audience and still stay as close to my real self as possible and so there's more longevity right cuz if you see all these other channels that do thrive on clickbait and drama and then the clickbait in the worst kind like the type of clickbait that gets that type of audience to watch dude they're all on anti-depressants and they're all like miserable and then for me I'm like I don't want to cultivate that type of environment I want to do this long-term and sustainable so I I was looking at that and I was like yeah we're going to we're going to recover
17:47 from this because I think it's just like a snapshot of like we probably needed a disruptor anyway because during covid I think we we were even as a group like certain people were becoming too woke anyway so then like we couldn't do our comedy and there was tension within and then for I was like At first I wanted everybody to just like come on and have different points of view but it got to the point where it was no longer comedy it would and it was such a weird dynamic of like people wanting to shut down certain jokes and things like that and I was like this is not fun anymore yeah but then it got to the point where now we can talk freely and and have fun and I think that preserving that and making that the focus is much more important to
18:38 me and I think that will survive way past anything you know I remember when you guys were talking about specifically that too and and and like bark said you know I mean like playing it out and being like hey there's there's definitely one side of a story out um and if we were to like tell our side of the story can do this and this and this so it's like let's just not go down that path of Jama and to me personally just the way I I uh kind of just live off of camera and stuff like that I totally respect that call did you guys ever feel there was a moment where it's like hey maybe we like owe it to our fans to like ex explain something or anything like that I'm not saying you do I'm just genuinely asking I just think I like I can see how things play out so as much as I would cuz it sucks to feel like you know the truth but you can't share I just know that that triggers a reaction
19:28 and then and it goes down this endless route that distracts you from like trying to figure out who's right or wrong versus doing what you been wanting to do than the yeah yeah bigger picture cuz that becomes the focus of entertainment now because like now it's about um it's it's investigative drama right and now it's no longer about comedy and it's no longer about the conversations that we have here cuz we're JK news we're not like JK drama so we should change it time for a Rebrand yeah time for a Rebrand people people always like to pretend they know it's like even the World of Sports like oh what what are they thinking in the locker room and then the analyst will say oh they're doing this but they don't know they're not in the locker room that's the male version of the drama stuff it totally is so people like oh I know what's going on JK news because of
20:18 this I saw this and that it's like no you weren't even there like you don't know and ultimately I don't find satisfaction in like H like in order for me to be right I don't want to hurt someone's reputation because all of these people that we might have had disagreements with in the past there's still sides of us that we have good memories with we don't hate them and so like if you don't hate people or like you don't want to destroy them why say anything that might make them look bad too because in order for you to look right people do look wrong and what ends up happening is like now the perspective is like okay now they look bad if they look wrong so like people have to look at it in a more macro perspective of like action and reaction right like there are things
21:08 that you can say and if you do come out and try to do it the most py perfectly like executed you know explanation now it just seems like corporate because that's what corporations do is they go oh I'm sorry for this action we uh whatever and everyone's like that's a ████ explanation I want to know your perspective in your truth but that could never go down because if you do that then it opens up this can of worms of okay now there's two sides and I don't like creating this US versus them I just like the reality for me and this is how I see a lot of situations and things that are disagreements is you couldn't come to an agreement because you have two different stories um and you both think that your story is the right story so then there's conflict there and the
21:58 best way to move past that is just agree to disagree and by telling your story that means you have a position now and you have a argument now now you have to build an army around your argument and now you have to compete on who's right or wrong you literally just describ the history of hip-hop like between Tupac and biggy or just in general hip-hop culture dude where was born how was created but yeah I love Joe's like dropping like gems of knowledge while wearing a Kirkland sweatshirt and an Ikea ████ hat that's corporate and we don't want to be corporate I love corporations that's what makes it amazing yeah you're telling me you don't ████ love Kirkland dude I love you know I love Kirk and Ikea dude oh agree to disagree
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