0:00 I wanted to get your opinion on this because I read this interesting thing someone said. I wanted to see if you agreed or not. This person said, "I don't trust people who weren't cool in high school." >> Huh? because everything they do in life after that period is going to be in some form of resentment towards like people that excluded them or >> it's like the world's billionaires who's like finally I [snorts] ████ got it all. >> Yeah. >> In your face ████ bullies, >> right? They don't they don't trust their decision- making because they feel like if you didn't get that in those key years of your life, you're never going to stop chasing it. >> Yeah. >> Undercover everything you do. Like you're always going to be like, I I want to be the cool one, so I'm going to do
0:50 this or do that. which I thought was an interesting take because I I didn't think it mattered that much to most people, you know, like when someone's so uh I guess like if they're really confident because they were so cool in high school, it kind of looks dumb, right? >> Yeah. >> Like at least to me, I'm like >> to me there's some truth to it because I feel like there's a lot of things you chase in your adult life that's just trying to satisfy the inner kid. >> That's true. >> There's some truth to it, but also it seems like this guy doesn't believe in any growth and evolution. [laughter] >> You know what I mean? as you experience things like it. I think that you things become more nuanced and you add to it and you like like uh maybe you were the bully. You were the guy getting bullied and then now you Yeah. you ████ devote your life to martial arts and you're never going to get bullied again. And then you realize, oh wait, that's
1:40 actually not me either. And then you become the balanced martial artist that only you unleash the rage after during certain times. Like I feel like there's so much of the journey. >> Yeah. >> And it's crazy to have a blanket statement. >> But also on the flip side, it can be said that like there's the Al Bundy syndrome where you peaked in high school. That's all you can ████ talk about is your glory days and it's like >> I don't trust anyone that talks about high school and how cool they used to be. [laughter] >> That's more that makes you look like a loser. >> I'm more on that page of when if someone's too married to who they were at an irrelevant time to now. It's like, bro, that's what you're going with? That's like me bragging about I won the fifth grade chess competition. Like so ████ so ████ what? >> You know I was class president. >> Oh god. >> Yeah, that's so lame. >> People really do be bringing that ████ up in their 30s, 40s. It's like what?
2:31 >> But I don't know. Like being cool in high school is not an award. You know what I mean? Like that was your peak social skills and everything. It's like I don't know, man. I I really don't know if that's how you should judge a person. >> Yeah. I don't know if there's much uh do you think there's like a correlation at all to how someone might be depending on whether or not they were cool in high school? >> I think there can be like there are the people who got bullied and then later on they become an adult bully, right? Because they're angry at what cuz feel like high school or very formative years. >> Yeah. >> Especially for your mental health. >> That's true. >> But it could go the other way like you could be treated really s█████ and then you that changes how you are. you could take the other path um as you grow older. So, I don't know. I don't think it's so black and white. >> Do you find it to be a strange red flag
3:21 if a guy keeps bringing up like >> who he was in high school and and he's like >> so weird. That's so yucky. Don't do that. [laughter] >> Don't do that. >> Don't talk about high school unless someone asks you about it. >> Cuz you know, like I feel like high a grown up talking about high school is ████ crazy. It's weird >> because what about people that >> don't wear your class ring >> cuz there's so many people that reinvent themselves in um college >> like they were everyone's like that here's your chance like you're a lameo in high school but here's your chance to like maybe be different be a new person right >> and then like you're you could be like someone might be like oh I went to high school with that guy yeah he was kind of a loser but oh look he's doing so good in college now he changed that happens all the ████ time yeah >> right >> so I don't I guess I need to further pick this dude ude's brain. But I would say generally, I do agree, if they
4:11 stayed a loser all the way throughout life and then maybe finally like they're like a ma manager at Target or whatever, >> that is probably a dick. [laughter] >> Also, like what was cool in high school, if that's still cool in adult world, that's there's something off about that. >> Yeah, that's true. So, >> you know what's a really sad awakening I had is uh so I thought I was cool in high school. >> And then I didn't realize my high school's not cool. >> Your whole high school's not cool. You know what I mean? Like I really thought >> you're the coolest of the uncool. >> Yeah. I just I just thought I was cool. I'm like, "Oh yeah, I know everybody. We're friends and everything." And then I realized later, oh, my high school was 200 people. >> It's not that [laughter] cool. And they're all Christian. >> But you didn't have a choice. You didn't know which high school you went to. >> Yeah. But then when I went to community college and I started trying to make friends there, I was so confident because of like I guess like who I
5:01 wasn't hiding. >> But you were the good Christian boy. >> Yeah. I was so confident. But then like once I started to meet people that were really like outside of that, they were just looking at me like, "What are you saying? Like why are you so cheerful? We're in community college, you idiot." >> A >> why are you like trying to talk to everyone like you're so lame? >> That's not a bad thing. >> I think it's a bad thing in Cerrito's community college. Not so much in Cypress, but Cerritos is like not to be that's not where anyone goes to act proud to be there. So like because I was so social and trying to like be familiar with everyone, it's like I looked like a massive dork cuz they're just like, "Dude, get this guy a ████ like tranquilizer, please." >> Was everyone at Certo's College did it feel like uh was it like diverse age group? I would say it's like a little bit diverse where there'd be like maybe one or two people in their 30s in the classroom of like 40 people, but for the
5:52 most part everybody was preol trying to get their credits up, trying to get transferred out. >> Oh, I see. Cuz what I really liked about Elac, it seemed very diverse, different age group, walks of life, the guy that just came from Vietnam last year or whatever. >> And so like whether or not someone was cool didn't even matter. It was just like people just trying to get to the next step. Yeah. Yeah. >> And then people became friends like I became friends with like a guy who had a master's degree and he really hated computer engineering so he wants to go back and do something else. And then you just Yeah. And then you start talking about all walks of life and that really opened my mind up to what life was really about and not this kind of popularity contest thing. >> I think though >> wow that's an early age to come to terms with that. Yeah, >> when this guy is saying like cool in high school, I actually think he's talking about um being likable and having friends. So like it's not just
6:44 the prescribed football like varsity team and then the popular kids. I think he's talking about like people actually genuinely like you >> and I think if you have those skills in high school, I agree with him that you probably have a good sense of self. >> It's developed way farther. Yeah. Cuz the people I liked in high school, they like the people I would consider cool. >> Like I would be like, "Oh, it's because you're comfortable with yourself and you're like this one kid, he ████ loved Magic cards, right?" And I thought he was so cool cuz he was like, "I love my ████ and I'm going to teach everyone around me and anyone that would like to learn about the ████ that I love >> and he was like people would pick on him, but like he was comfortable and I thought that was ████ cool, right?" So, and then and then here I am like with kids dealing drugs and whatever. And then like I was like, you know what, but but he somehow gets to sit with
7:34 these gangsters during lunch and then like and then teach them magic cards and now he has protection. And I was like, dude, this guy's smart like >> he has a force field just like in his game, >> right? And then so I'm like he's that's cool, right? So, like I never really thought about like, oh, the athletes are the only ones that are cool >> and then you have these guys and then you have these theater kids and whatever. Like, I think that's stupid to like >> measure it that way, but it's really like there are people that break that mold in high school where there's like there's that one nerd, but everyone just likes him cuz he's such a nice person. >> That's very true. That is very true. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I think if it was that example, >> stereotypically that would be the dork in a movie, but in real life, he's actually not. >> Yeah. And in real life, there's so many cool people that just are popular cuz
8:26 they're good people, right? >> And then like, but if you are a bitter, ████ mean, like, weird person in high school, >> I couldn't I can I I think I agree with that. >> Yeah. Like maybe you have a chip on your shoulder. Yeah. It's like the incel dudes that like get all hot and then finally like they're just weird to women, you know? Like >> you can take two paths, right? You can take the path of going down that same path or you can go the other way and learn. >> Yeah, you can learn forever. >> Yeah, you can. But that is like the evil villain origin story. >> Yeah, that's true. >> You know, like someone that that's a victim and it feels like >> Yeah, that's an incel origin story. >> They have like those school shooter vibes. Yeah, >> that's Yeah, [laughter] they're like, "Oh, >> when people get bullied, you think like, "Oh, poor poor target." And it happens. Like some people, they just get bullied.
9:17 But I know a lot of people that deserve the bullying cuz they were just mean ████ >> too. Yeah. A lot of people don't really realize that bullies get bullied. >> Yeah. >> They have they Yeah. They're like smart Alex. They're like They themselves are bullied or they do some weird mean >> Our whole group would bully one guy cuz he was pushing around a smaller guy. >> Yeah. >> Be like that. But then we get in trouble because it looks like we started it. >> Yeah. >> We're like, "Oh, why are you why are you ostracizing that guy?" It's like, "No, he's a ████ ████ That's why." [laughter] >> Yeah. But then it's like you said, there's that thing where like uh a lot of um incelss are born from these like early age experiences where they start blaming women for why they can't date and they never stop doing that because it compounds over time. It's like, "Yeah, women like you less the more you blame them. Duh. You'll have less chance dating." >> There was like Asian incelss at our high school, right? I'm like, we're the
10:08 majority, bro. We're like, what are you talking about? They don't like Asian guys. Like, 70% of the school is Asian. The most popular kids are Asian. And you're out here b███████ about like, well, Asian guy. I'm like, no, look at yourself. You got a s█████ haircut. >> You're not You don't move. You ████ look like ████ And I'm all like >> glam up when someone talks to you. >> And then I'm like, dude, the ████ prom king and queen is Asian. And like what what are you talking about? >> Exactly. Yeah, that's true. >> You just stank. [laughter] >> Yeah. Maybe you just smell. [gasps] And then the the inverse is also true because the coolest guy in uh my high school, which uh I hope you're not watching cuz you'll know it's you. Um we all thought he was like a perfect dude. Like this is the coolest possible guy and we voted him the coolest in the yearbook. Everything. Just the coolest
10:58 guy. my um one of my classmates ended up dating him uh and then staying together uh after high school and they you know stayed together for years and then uh eventually they broke up and I'm like what happened? Why did you why did you uh thought it was perfect and she's like oh he he got violent [gasps] >> no >> dude that guy was like perfect like what? >> So it's like seeing like Zach Morris get violent or something. >> Yeah. It's like it's like you can't base someone's high school reputation on like how they're going to develop their entire life. Cuz I would have put money down that this guy's going to be like the CEO, tycoon, perfect man, cover of Forbes, cover of people. Like he was that kind of guy. >> What does she do then? >> Cuz that's crazy. >> If we're playing the numbers, if you if we're playing the numbers though, what's the likelihood that people turn it
11:49 around and become better people? [laughter] You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Yeah. If you want to go by stats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Generally, if you ████ been ████ up, >> you're probably going to continue as a bigger ████ up when you grow. >> I I I would argue >> against that because >> statistically, >> I don't know statistically, but I think some of the best people and most interesting people are the ones that have been through some ████ >> Yeah. As a true as an exception, right? I'm talking about majority. So, like let's say you've been through like like the majority is I should have been a statistic meaning like broken home all this stuff. I should have been in jail. I should have been dead or I should have been in some ████ alley asking for drugs, right? >> You're an exception to the statistic. >> Yeah. So, that's what I mean by generally I should have done that. So, like in in these cases, wouldn't the
12:40 majority of the guys end up probably in with bad social skills still? >> They have the odds against them, I think. >> Maybe. But if they make it through, I think if they make it through, >> you'd be surprised by how many people around you have just gone through ████ >> I That's true. You just don't know. >> Yeah, we don't know. But I I would like to know the numbers >> cuz then then I'll be like, "Oh, f███." >> I mean, I think we I think you're right to say that like, you know, like latch key kids, just take that stat, right? If you're a latch key kid, you you have a higher rate of ending up not doing too well. >> You know what I mean? Because not enough parental care or whatever. Um, and I think like if you have a really bad high school experience, I mean, chances are to to turn that around takes so much work that most people may not be able to do that. >> And I think the reason why it's a amazing story is because it's so hard to
13:31 do it. >> Exactly. That but then it's not normal. Yeah. >> So that's why if you make it through, you're an exceptional person. I think you are actually like a above others if you actually get through adversity. >> You had a hard time in high school. You were unpopular, whatever. And then you turn it around, but you're still a freaking good person. >> Yeah. Then you're like a extra good person. >> I think there are a lot of variables that go around that. You have to have someone who kind of helps you see the the right way, too. >> If you guys were really cool in high school, please let us know in the comments so we can be your friends. >> So cool today or beating girls? >> So that we can >> be in the same social circle as you. God. [laughter]
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