← back to the archive // episode file

Rare Recording of Michael Jackson Talking About His Father'sAbuse

#letquit#joejackson#piano#pianist#teachingkids
the transcript auto-captions · entered into evidence

0:00 do what you're doing and go out and do all these things with your life and like take your career to the next level everything's kind of handed to them that's not every case but God walk down here telling me all I got to do is strip my kid naked beat him a couple times with iron and he'll be Michael Jackson [Laughter] [Music] who's the biggest Michael Jackson fan in here oh I got him tattered on me

0:52 was he bad yeah absolutely was he a thriller to watch absolutely did he like them pretty young things absolutely absolutely yeah he liked women yeah yes there's a really rare recording that I've never heard where he's talking about some stuff that he went through with his dad and it's pretty graphic oh we all know this but let's go you do I mean oh yeah Joe Jackson abused the ████ out of all of his kids he goes into detail in this in this recording and I've never heard this in my life I thought I heard everything jam on it then come on Jam On It come on man come on dude give it to me come on

1:42 surely oil you down so when when the flip of the end of the ironing card hits you which is you know you ever heard this just like me dying and use your flips all over his face and back everywhere and I always hear my mother but no bill you're gonna kill him you're gonna kill him now so they all them down they would oil them down okay there's nothing I can do but what's the point of that what the ironing board what's the ironing cord on it and he'd be like everybody like like looking at your heart like don't you mess up you know and I'm like oh God somewhere at this show we hear this car coming it's pretty long but that's like one third of it uh

2:34 that's crazy he made him strip naked to oil up his whole body just to hit him with a cord that just sounds like Asian parenting guys I'm just thinking about my past here am I uh all right here's a hot take right my my brother so um we all we got our asses beat to play piano that was normal like you play the wrong chords you get ████ up right so it sounds like some Joe Jackson ████ my brother confronted my dad and said you ████ me up because I didn't play the right chords and he goes you guys should have ████ me up harder you know what a great pianist I would have been you let me quit huh and then I was so mind-blowing I was like most of us confront our parents of our trauma and tell them to apologize my brother's such a psychopath he was telling my parents

3:25 like you should have not you should have beat me harder so I never would have gave up piano know I would have been a great pianist he really meant that yeah you know I was like what the ████ I kind of I kind of relate to that with my possible boxing in a way of like my dad always said if you don't want a box anymore that's fine you have your choice like he's not gonna force it on me right I kind of had a little thing of like why didn't you just push a little bit why'd you let me quit yo let me hold on to it a little bit more you know what I'm saying but uh uh not not now he's he's nuts yeah you know what I'm saying but damn I was like I can't wait to tell my parents what's up so they can apologize and I'll be like and and that's why I don't like piano because you guys hurt my feelings you know but then my brother was a ████ psychopath like he was just like straight up I can't believe you let me quit I was just a child how good was your brother that piano yeah I never

4:16 heard him play but my parents or maybe he did I don't remember but he by the time because he's 12 years older than me so by the time I started playing and doing all that stuff he wasn't in the house no more he was going to boarding schools and your brother's actually crazy all around or just this I don't know I guess I understand that if let's say uh she was just right on the cusp and was just like just not number one you know what I mean and didn't get the ████ first string seat or some ████ like that and it's like why don't you ████ push me hard I could have been better but if he's just another dude another Asian dude playing the piano it's like yeah you crazy he might be I just don't remember yeah are you nice with it no I don't even know how to read notes because this is how I learned drugs and musical jeans I got so scared um to play the wrong notes I just learned how to remember the song as fast as possible so I pretend to read the

5:07 notes and then so then my dad started noticing that I'm playing the song and I didn't flip the page oh yeah so he's like you're not reading the chords like no and then afterwards I was like I don't want to play anymore I'm too scared like I get my ass beat like I don't know yeah if it's fears associated with that that's not good so I never really learned how to play correctly because I just learned how to memorize real quick you're like Nick Cannon on Drumline yeah pretty much you couldn't but I didn't even get the Ryan's level though because I'm out here playing When the Saints Go Marching In and ████ memorizing ████ Twinkle Twinkle Little Star you know yeah Ryan's doing like Flight of the Bumblebee Bossa Nova remix with Christmas right oh you get down the piano too it was ████ also a genius my ████ was was the same thing though like like the my teacher was this strict Japanese dude it's always the Japanese he would hold a like a huge sharp and a pencil and he would hold it above my hand and then I would look at

5:58 the music and play who was your piano teacher are you sure it's not my dad Paul Matsumoto it's not my dad and then if I if I ████ up then he would just go and so that I would associate like the ah ah bro yeah yeah it's like that feeling of like in my head now it's like there's like a I can feel like the ████ prickles yeah it's like weird but how did it transfer into love because it's always been hate it never was when it was piano lessons for me I was like oh look I hated it for eight years straight I didn't start liking it until I I stopped having a teacher oh see I never got to that level I wasn't beat long enough I had eight years of ████ like that like different teachers that were all kind of in that same mode you think pianist would be like uh yeah you said penis yeah you think they'd be nicer pick up if they had cooler names than penis

6:49 nobody wants them yeah you pianist right yeah it could have been it could have just been pianoist yeah I feel like I feel like I feel like that's what that's what they're like getting pissed at because they have that running joke you said penis they're like I have a cooler name I know why can't you be the key master yeah there we go Rebrand pianist what is it how you say it pianoist just kidding penis no I didn't it's good guys you one of them dick dudes did you ever have to do the egg holding technique for the perfect form no where they put two two eggs on your chin and you have to hold it there while you're playing [Laughter]

7:40 no they would just like lift your wrist up yeah but then like that was kind of like damn yeah it was weird you couldn't even start until you were in the form yeah so it didn't even matter they were like well you can't play it like that you can't hang so I play like this yeah that's minimalist I just know how to do that and that's it that's it that's all you need if you're I feel like a lot of ████ would have been like [Music] um I don't know like it's like top I mean obviously top better without the violence right but then I think more people would have been creative if the right teacher taught like you know gave them that I'm yeah for sure okay so I'm trying to put this all together in my head so when I taught kids during the summer um I I wanted to expand the dance class

8:31 a little bit more so I like researched like what can you do with dance how to beat kids no uh but like how do you utilize dance in a way these kids can um get to know who they are through it right and communicate so one of it was I want you guys to improv and and do a move for me that resembles anger right I want to say anger the ████ that I saw was crazy like some kids would slap their own face and then I'll be like okay wait oh ████ that's commitment yeah yeah and they would tell me about your relationship for my dad's mad he does this they're like [Music] it's not stripping naked putting oil on it made me realize just ████ like

9:22 you just see the house then yeah damn and then you're like do you want to see that so I need I want to talk to them about it and then I go okay well I'm not a therapist or anything so I'm gonna be like let's think about when you feel this way what makes you snap out of it is it like a hug is it like a scream like let's work on that to just switch it real quick so to hear that and I grew up pretty like uh abused too so that's tough but then the oiling is different so I'm just like that oiling is weird no he's being nice if his oils the cord will slip off you know what I mean right yeah make it softer mine was like no oil but then it's like it's dry yeah yeah Sparks yeah I guess because of that though it led me

10:12 to this right wanting to teach kids because I ████ hate teaching kids but you hate teaching kids if I took this opportunity I was like oh maybe life is teaching me to try this Venture yeah you're the one that can help them that's yeah more than just teaching kids because I can probably I can relate why you're doing that yeah yeah that's crazy because all the techniques that we were taught I mean that was normal that was ████ up but that was what everyone was being taught like we all have a similar history of like yeah we got our asses it's a sign of the times to learn how to play piano yeah now if you do it you're like what kind of Barbarian are you the ████ is wrong with you yeah we didn't have Twitter to complain about it back in the day you know what I'm saying nothing get away with that ████ we just talked to other kids like damn that was hard honey that was hard yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it was

11:02 so normal back then but here's the thing about the generation gap like this is one way that you guys grew up but now the generation that's growing up some of them are too soft a little bit like you know if I've had times like you know I'm teaching dance and stuff and these kids like you tell them a correction and I even say it nice I'm very compassionate like with kids but you know if I have to have a serious Moment Like get them into shape they can't take anything because they're really soft and everyone gets a trophy now over here you gotta move your arm like this they start crying sometimes sometimes you'll believe it so it's like it's like they're missing a little bit of that push that they need because if you just baby a kid you know they're not gonna do what you're doing and go out and do all these things with your life and like take your career to the next level everything's kind of handed to them that's not every case but God walk down

11:53 here tell me all I gotta do is strip my kid naked beat him a couple times with a ████ iron and he'll be Michael Jackson [Laughter] which is that the end of the video if that's what it takes because that's all I saw I saw so that's what it takes to make the best child in the world like given Michael Jackson's whole life story would you guys want to make a Michael Jackson I want to be the Michael Jackson because I got the same ████ abuse without the ████ stardom in power yeah and the money what if Joe Jackson didn't do that I know it's wrong but what if he didn't do that to him and then Michael just decided he didn't want to do music and then it was just he could have been a lawyer it'd just be the Jackson four and I mean obviously

12:43 don't abuse but like the Jacksonville if you just went on that's the only difference they're like I don't hear the highest note where is it there's supposed to be a solo here what's going on he was just doing that to test his ring all the songs are identical one less part foreign [Music]

// end of tape