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Remembering Nichelle Nichols, 'Star Trek' Actor Who Made an Impact

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0:00 [Music] do you guys know who michelle nichols is nob i know michelle my belle what who let me show my made up name michelle my bear [Laughter] i think he's singing a song are you seeing this live beatles one more time joe bing okay you're supposed to know it okay this has nothing to do with that uh michelle nichols who broke barriers

0:50 for black women in hollywood when she played lieutenant ohora on the original star trek tv series has died at the age of 89. wait her name was lieutenant ahora ahora yeah you don't know star trek no remember her or her yeah also played by zoe saldana and the muslim star the reboot it just sounds like a funny name are you a star trek fan i am well with you guys not really the tv shows i watched some because i had to because there's nothing else on tv during that time nice what a fan i was randomly one of those like i'd rather star wars type ████ but the new star trek movies were sick she in next generation was she and she was in og the og oh wow the next enterprise is that what it's called with patrick i was too stupid to understand the original series t-o-s is what they call it star trek the most boring show on the planet no ████ you

1:40 bart it's a good show dude how old were you guys because i think we're we're older we're we're older right but then like but she's part of she was part of pop culture right you guys always say you're older like you're ████ from 14th century no no but i need to ████ chill those critical years though like it made me not get into dragon ball pokemon or like that's because you're a loser and you were in the loser's stuff because you were robbing houses yeah you were just doing dumb ████ so my point is i was older but i didn't understand star trek the way that you guys did because i was ████ dumb bro yeah see that's a different excuse it's not like i was born no that's because i'm dumb therefore star trek is entertaining though you just have to i was honestly i was too dumb to understand wait so so that's what my question is when did you get into star trek because when i was a kid i was like

2:30 these guys talk too much yeah when are they gonna ████ like go to space and so it depends on what your entry was so my father was big on star trek the next generation so that was my first uh that was the 90s right that's different he has like he has a dad who like understands english and stuff so that's why there's an easier way to go so like patrick stewart john luke picard like all that oh that one that was a really boring bald guy boring whenever yeah okay awesome great thanks bart so nichelle was part of the original series which came before next generation right so next generation was like the next iteration because they actually done they did like six movies with the original series cast like 20 like is that what shadow years yeah we're shatner 20 years after the original series air which was like 1966 to 1969

3:20 um and then they did like 20 years of movies and then they rebooted it with the next generation they did movies with those cats right and they actually blended the two the movie called generations which is like captain kirk shatner and like um patrick stewart i'm sorry okay hey well if you want to sneeze at this the whole point of what i'm trying to explain to you guys is the the actual impact that nichelle nick nichols had on pop culture because she was a black woman in the 1960s who was depicting a science officer or i'm sorry a communications officer on on the enterprise oh that was like oh she's black and she's a woman and she's doing science no like it was like a big it was it was a lot of things right so so one of the one of the biggest things that she did as a first

4:10 was she wasn't in need of anybody on tv right she wasn't like anybody's like house made or anything like that okay yeah all the time she was like a part of the ship she was part of the crew she was on the bridge it's like a big deal like if you're on the bridge like you're she's like an equal yeah yeah and that's awesome kisses captain kirk in an episode that they aired um which was the first interracial on-screen kiss for really what yeah so wait what so her and shatner kissed so this was in the 60s in the 60s because i think interracial marriage was still illegal until the 60s who knows because he was looking at vintage porn at the time he was looking for interracial vintage for the japanese guy on this one too the gay guy he's really famous about sulu yeah you're talking about the georgia kai george it's the same it's the same

5:00 era yeah yeah but leonard leonard is on the show okay okay okay oh geez okay well one of the coolest things about this right so so um you know she did that scene with um shatner and the network are they um they they were like hey can we do one with the kiss and one without the kiss just in case and then she wrote in her book she's like we both just ████ up on every on the other takes so that they had to use the kiss on purpose yeah because they wanted that to be out there so how do you ████ up on a take where you're not supposed to kiss no they they were given dialogue and they kept on ████ it up that's tight oh we can't use that actually we can't use that that's probably what it was um so yeah misha my ba bing bang bang

5:53 no that's not the line uh so she was you know she was a big part of i mean star trek doesn't exist like as we all know it without her being involved because like uhura was a huge manchester character she was she was she got kind of you know sidebarred a lot in the movies because in the movies they they did all kinds of they only have a limited amount of time to push the plot too for sure but she um she remembers uh a moment so she had done like one season of star trek right this is in 66 and she remembers she was going to quit the show she was like yeah i'm an actress i just want to do a bunch of different stuff i don't want to get type cast and pigeon holed into one part right and then she's at a party with martin luther king jr no way and he was a big fan of her uh of star trek wow big fan of like what

6:43 it said right because because what you ████ don't know about star trek and you guys are like oh it's so dialogue heavy so boring it was trying to show a version of us where a race doesn't matter and like we're all in the future and all that stuff is just melted away and we're all focused on progressing mankind i got that from beverly hillbillies you don't like beverly hills did you do that dude that girl was so hot how did you do that bart has future tech it was at the same time i don't know what you're talking about how you got there but you never watched beverly hills you saw diversity in beverly hillbillies well it's all he's like they're hillbillies but they live in hollywood that's how i got there no so martin luther king was like hey um she told him i'm not gonna return for a second season and he was like he was like you have you cannot do that you oh wow

7:33 you changed the face of tv forever and that's why and therefore you've changed the minds of people in the culture you cannot leave and she said that was a lightning bolt in her life and it made her stay and that like propelled her career so like she was on that series for like the next four years and then she ended up doing all the movies and like it just became more normal right and that was what was cool about it is that why people on screen is so important to like i guess the general like conception or perspective of the world right because like for me because like in culture because for me it's like what is more important to me is what i see in real life right so like let's say let's say like uh like leading man asian dude with like i don't know white chick or something it seems so crazy to see that on screen right but then for me i'm like what do you mean i've seen a lot of my friends are in interracial relationships so i'm like to me that's not a big deal

8:24 um but it feels like like when they see that on screen then it's like finally stamped in or something well at the time most people i think interracial relationships were illegal not only illegal but shunned upon yeah so then when they do it on screen no one's really seen it in real life also at the risk of complimenting you you're like a needle mover whereas a lot of people why risk why are we at risk because i just don't like to do that um like in terms of like you're an influencer so you're already doing things you're around people that are influencing others whereas other people who don't influence other people who get influence they do need those things they do need to see those things in order to validate or affirm like their own existence in the space you know what i'm saying i see yeah that's like in the beginning people will be like oh my god but why you so buff and it's like man you small compared to these other asian guys now

9:14 because it was a trend set to be a fit big little asian guy because a lot of people didn't believe that can happen yeah for real one of the craziest things about this too i don't know about the illegal thing i don't i don't i literally don't know i think interracial was illegal till the 60s but yeah but they didn't so lucy lucille ball and rick ricardo who didn't predate this huh lucy and ricky it was yeah it was it was a weird gray area because he's not black and they say interracial i think they really mean black 1951 they did predate this for sure but then that was different because it's cuban and what we do but we also do this thing too where we like just completely write off a whole like timeline as like they were all this way but like there was um like people expected that there would be backlash for this but the star trek creators said they never got more mail

10:04 it was all positive like at the time they said they never got more mail in their life and that was like america right they were all like being like yo this is amazing that you guys did this so that's rad that's really cool but that's part of the the the thing about star trek that i love about star trek is that it does it always is future forward it's always looking at like what we could be and like it melts away all the ████ that we all do about each other like the suppositions and all the like oh i think about you this and the stereotype about you is this and all this ████ that's cool i never thought of it that way yeah i never knew star trek was like that forward thinking or like that intentional with all the people that they had that was the that was the thing about gene roddenberry at the time which was awesome duncan on star trek well it's because beverly hillbilly is hard to compare merit dude oh she was so hot imagine if they just didn't get letters because all the haters are like man if i could write and read i'd be sending a pretty angry letter

10:56 they couldn't even write a read [Laughter] that makes me want to watch star trek i like gilligan's island too oh that was so good that was my star trek [Music] you

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