0:00 And they they >> they got jacked. They sold it. They got jacked. They got jacked. >> They sold it for a buck or something. >> The big one of the biggest billionaires in California. Don't get me started with this ████ >> I know about it. >> ████ personal. >> Thanks to you. I know about it. Get started. >> Propaganda. Propaganda though. >> Listen, dude. >> We could have been like Jewish and ████ >> I know, but >> Welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys. >> Welcome. >> Yes, sir. Hey, do you guys feel like uh especially as and I know Steve can definitely contribute to this one. >> Oh yeah. >> As Asians in America >> Oh my god. >> Why did you say the first thing? >> Can you just let me finish? It's very disrespectful. As an Asian as Asians in America, do you feel like we like low-key look down on Asians in Asia?
0:50 >> Damn. I used to, but I don't now. >> Really? What do you mean used to? >> Cuz I just used to. It was like a thing back in the 2000s that if someone was Fabby, they were just automatically dorky. >> Oh, >> remember what I mean? Like you just you kind of just like bully them and ████ >> But then like >> But no, but that's that's you looking at >> fob Asians in America. >> Oh, either way, I still look at all that ████ and be like make fun of it. >> I remember that cuz like uh I don't know if this exists in the other cultures, but like in the Chinese culture, like being a ABC is an actual thing, like Americanborn Chinese. So, like because you were like I guess one of the ones to have uh grown up in America and you just know even in their system like Taiwan specifically, even K-pop, the stars are plucked from the ones that were in America, you just felt like you were like on this god level. >> Damn. >> Cuz they don't they don't develop their own stars. All the stars that they have
1:40 were Chinese that grew up in Canada, America, Australia or whatever because they have this more international appeal >> like the four heavenly kings. >> Yeah. So like when you when you uh go over there, you just felt like I'm a super Asian cuz I grew up in in America. >> That's how I felt before. >> It's kind of like what you guys were talking about with with judging stuff. You're like, "Oh shoot, like these people, they're the best of this country." >> Yeah. >> They belong in LA. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, that's that's super true >> cuz the opportunities they can get >> are higher. Yeah. >> I I had a kind of a opposite feeling cuz I was like I knew that the Japanese that came to the US were like the poor losers. So like I felt like we were the ones that couldn't make it in Japan and the ones that ma that stayed there were
2:31 the ones that were smarter, better, wealthier and then the losers come to America to try to make it and then like cuz it's like farmers and rejects and stuff like that. So I was like damn, they got the best stuff like the anime and all the companies and all that and we over here we don't got nothing. That's how it I don't know. >> You used to run the water in California. >> The aqueducts was ours. >> Yeah. They But they gave them all back. So what? >> They got jacked. They sold it. >> They got jacked. They got jacked. >> They sold it for a buck or something. >> The big one of the biggest billionaires in California. Don't get me started with this ████ >> I know about it. >> ████ personal. >> Thanks to you. I know about it. >> Get started. It's >> propaganda. It's propaganda though. Listen, dude. >> We could have been like Jewish and ████ >> I know, but ████ >> didn't work. >> But those billionaires are so cunning. I
3:21 know, >> but now I don't care cuz now I feel like that wasn't I didn't even earn that. Like where you where you grew up and all that that's that's not my choice. People are just people living in wherever the hell they are. Like I think like in the younger you are, the more you're like you have this identity built around I guess and this this senseless pride and then your sense of pride gets placed in other areas the older you >> Let me ask you this cuz I'm going to change the format a little bit cuz this is a little bit boring. you guys as the as 626 boys and you didn't go to college is just saying you're from 626 almost like saying you're an alma matter in a way where you're like I will help you hire you whatever I can do for you. >> I used to think that we were the ████ ████ Yeah. >> Like we could go to any other uh
4:13 AsianAmerican city and then everyone should suck my dick cuz I was from the SGV. >> Okay. Yeah. >> That's how I felt at one point. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like I would like even like in the gang culture, right? Like let's say so I got kicked out of school, I end up going to Carl's bad and some dude was telling me, "Oh, like I was Bay Area this sector." I was like, "Oh, ████ ████ ass motherfuckers." Yeah, like you guys are gang banging. Sure you were. You know, it was like that. It was like I had this like this ████ like um superiority complex because I was from the SGV. >> Yeah. >> When did that evaporate? >> I think I got smarter. I think I got older and I realized like there was way more to the world and gang banging is dumb to begin with. >> To this day to to this day there's like a little winky wink that we all know about in corporate culture where they go, "Oh, you went to Notre Dame. I'm a Notre Dame guy. You're hired. Let's go."
5:05 Like this whole stack of people flush them. Like that kind of thing exists, right? >> Yeah. They go, "You're from SGV. Welcome to Harvard." >> Does that exist? Like when you when you look at SGV people and you go like, "Hey, let's hook it up, brother, for the 626." >> I've hired a girl in my job because of that. >> Okay. >> I was just like, "Oh, you from." And then it's like, "Where are you from?" Westcoina. Oh, cool. Yeah, you're in. >> But did that make you because of that or was it something else? >> It she was familiar. Like I was like >> I had a friend that reminds me of you >> and then I know the type of people like it's just it's just more like >> you're not like a San Francisco Asian like I don't know I don't I mean they're cool or like even a New York one like and I and I feel like there is that familiarity of just being like oh we're kind of from the same areas.
5:55 >> Yeah, >> that makes sense. >> It might be like a comfort and a convenience. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> It's almost like skipping small talk because you already know something, >> right? Exactly. short hand. >> When I had that complex, I wasn't in a state to hire anyone. >> Okay. >> But like, you know, when you're like uh meeting friends and stuff, >> if someone like I met that was from the SGV, I'm like, "Oh, okay. He's from SV. He must be down." So, this guy, I could probably count on him to rob someone if I needed to or like >> So, I just down for anything. >> It was just your values are so dumb. You know what I mean? I'm like, "Oh, what the ████ That fool's from the OC. awful as a ████ She ain't going to rob nobody or if like we if we ████ throw down at Dave Bust, she's not going to have my back. I'm like all these crazy scenarios that are like just stupid. >> And Arcadia and San Marino didn't count. >> Yeah. I'm like that's fake. >> Rich the Dar didn't count. Yeah.
6:46 >> So it's like it's like >> you know what you know what is interesting though is when we started traveling like >> doing college shows and all that, right? >> I don't know if this is an Asian thing. This might be a small town, big city thing, but like >> when we would do these shows with these clubs, like they'll be like, "You're from LA. Like what is it like?" Like I heard that like you guys just have hella Asians there. And Asians would be like the topic of the day cuz it would be a cultural club that would bring us out. And what for us, a cultural club would be kind of lame. Like the ones in LA and all those, >> it's cuz like no chicks. >> Yeah. They're like nerds, right? But when you go to maybe Texas, when you go to Chicago, when you go to those schools, it's the most popular. >> Where's the girls? >> Yeah, that that is true. That is true. >> Because that's like like if you go to
7:36 Chicago or whatever, like those kids all grew up like in an all-white neighborhood or whatever. And then they're like, I kind of want to get to know like maybe my culture or other Asians. So they join those Asian clubs and that's where they're like, oh dude, this is so new to me. So that that blew my mind because they're they treated LA like, "Oh, this is uh the mecca, you know, we need to go visit one day and praise to the dim sum hall or some s███." And then we were like, I didn't realize how good we had it until we traveled out there. And they were like so desperate for like that identity that we had cuz it was just culture. Like it was just a community. >> Yeah. Did you guys have that as non- college boys? Like any kind of connection where you go like >> anything they say that's like hey I'm going to ride like even like whatever I don't know just a stupid example like astrology sign whatever you got like are
8:27 you just like I'm going to I'm more likely to hire you work with you ████ with you. Um oh you know what's a good one is the humor. When people are from East LA or from LA, uh, like either East LA, Montabelloo, like that side, those people have a different sense of humor and you can mesh with it right away. I think >> nice. >> That's a you you it's safe to say certain jokes right away. >> That's true. >> I'm from either San Gabriel or like 562. It's there's no limit already and it's kind of comfortable that way. >> Yeah. I think comfort of like culture just makes things quicker to like understand or get get past some ████ Yeah. You don't want to like spend hella, at least when it comes to work, spend hella time like trying to learn something about somebody and then like you put them into your business or your ecosystem and then you find out something else and you're like, "Wait, you're not at all what I thought or
9:19 whatever." I think it's just a safety thing. For for me personally though, like I feel like my first real taste or experience of like the difference was I remember like back in the day me and Mike went to Korea one time for to to do some work and then we had like a a meeting with like a Korean label or whatever and then the advice that we were given, especially for Mike cuz obviously I'm not Korean. I was going to I was going to bark my way through everything. Um was was like, "Hey, when you go into these meetings with these execs and stuff, don't speak Korean." >> Oh. He said that to Mike and I was like, I how does that track? I don't understand that. He's like, well, they're going to respect you more as an American who does this stuff, but if you're just a fellow Korean, especially because of the way that they do cultural hierarchy. >> Yeah. >> If like if you're like Korean about it, they're going to like big brother you. >> Wild. >> My grandma said the same, the deal,
10:10 whatever. China. >> Yeah. My grandma's like, "Don't speak Japanese. Yeah, >> go out there and I speak Japanese all the time, but same ████ >> because you have you have a completely different set of values and rights that like are are given to you by just being regionally from this place. So it's like those are protected for you and they can't treat you in the way of their normal customs. And then I saw it in a completely different paradigm through through the dance culture of like there's like this idea like like we were talking about before where everybody who's the best of something because LA is like the mecca hub of entertainment and then you know subsequently like dance like the best of the world come here that if you make it here if you are somebody here then you're god there >> because the best there they would have came here to try. So if you actually
11:02 go there, it's a whole different game. >> So just like when you go to different places and they put you on this pedestal and it's like but you did it in LA and you're looking out in the community and you're like that ████ dances better than me or that that fool's ████ nasty. >> But the image idea >> idea that you were able to like succeed >> in the ocean. >> You broke through. >> Yeah. Like that changes everything about it. And then that it's not so much of like I guess for the sake of the question like looking down but recognizing that somehow you're just because you were born there and you did good enough you're suddenly on a pedestal. That's that's crazy. That's like the college experience, right? >> Being from LA. >> Yeah. You're just like >> I didn't know it was such a big deal to people like you're from And I heard that same New York, right? People when when they visit they're like you're from New York. Wow. And I'm like it's just a
11:52 ████ city, dude. New York people wouldn't say that. >> I mean I mean I guess so. But LA is probably the only place where I'm a New Yorker. We're like so I don't care. >> I think that's why that thing is kind of over with now. Like I think it's hard to not have that superiority complex when you're Filipino firstgen and all you hear about are how your relatives are trying to come here. This friend is trying to come here. We got to get money together and help this person try to come here. So it feels like, oh, I'm here already. I'm just in a better place. But then like nowadays I think with internet and everything being so globalized like especially for being dance art anything like you just see what everybody's doing everywhere and it kind of doesn't matter anymore. >> You know what I mean? Like people go viral from Uganda they'll go viral from Bise. It doesn't really make that big of
12:42 a difference. >> And grass is greener, right? Everything gets boring. Like when I see video of people like at in the beaches in Philippines or all this stuff and I'm like that looks way better than what we're what we have. >> Yeah. I think there's there's good and bad parts of everything, >> but I still think like if you're looking at it from an adult point of view, yeah, we still have the most opportunity and the most >> uh facilities here that will like whether it's medicine or just anything that you need. Like LA, California in general does have like a lot of that stuff there. >> Hey Anthony, that's how you host a topic. You waiting to do that to a multi.
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