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We Finally Know Who Started the California Fires

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0:00 I need you to wake up on time, Suben, so you can we can film on time. >> So fresh right now. We're going. >> Your outfit's all right. I'll give you I'll give you >> I just slapped it on. I'm sorry. >> He got that for 20 bucks at Costco yesterday. >> It looks like it. >> I wanted to look like a dad. >> I like it. You >> guys went to Costco yesterday? >> Yep. >> Yeah. I had to get disposables for your guys. >> Back to the prompt, though. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> You guys know who this is? >> No. >> Yeah. That's the guy who set off the fire at Palace Age. That's the son of a ████ who set up the fire in the palisades. They just they just picked him up. They got him. >> The one that the that scorched everything >> that's that started it. Cuz remember when there was a video digital camera, there's only that one dude that started on top of the hill and then the wind was blowing ████ west side down to the Palisad side.

0:50 >> His name is Jonathan Jonathan Renderet. He's 29 years old. >> I thought there were multiple people starting fires um during that time though. Yeah, that well they this is the only guy they picked up so far. I that was talked about a bunch, but this is >> it's doubtful that he's also the guy who started like the eating canyon fires. >> Yeah, >> but like the palisades was like the really crazy one. >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I remember everyone was on fire alert thing too cuz you would see Oh ████ Culver City. Oh ████ whatever. And then the like little brush fries, but I think some of those were just homeless people or whatever. >> Yeah, dude. We were filming. They're like they're saying evacuate, evacuate. >> And we were like, nah, we got to film. >> We got we got we got 15 more videos to do. >> Yeah. Uh, so apparently he started a fire on New Year's Day that was initially extinguished by fire crews, right? But then I guess it continued to smolder underground before the high winds came and picked it back up and that's what spread the fire around,

1:40 right? And he he he started that fire, he saw it get put out and then he went back to the area to watch it reignite. So he was like one of those fire bugs who like likes to see their work. >> Did they find out why he did it >> there? They're he they they charged him with um malicious destruction by means of a fire. They're not saying they haven't said why he did it. >> They should ████ burn him a little bit every day cuz so many people lost their homes, their personal belongings, all the sentimental stuff. >> I feel like this is going to be the new mass shooter cuz you could get famous now being an arsonist. >> It's scary, right? Yeah. They they also found the lighter that he used to to ignite. It was it was one of those igniters. Yeah. Was it a Zippo or was it those barbecue ones? >> It was a barbecue one with the long thing. Yeah. >> Yeah. Super long. Super long. >> We should ban those. >> They come in a two pack at Costco. >> You have to press the safety and then it clicks. >> Yeah. Yeah. With your thumb.

2:30 >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We should ban those. >> So he told uh during an interview, so remember that happened on New Year's, right? And then the fires came, took out the Palisades. They finally picked him up. Um he told investigators where the fire began in which which was information not yet public and that he would not have known if he didn't witness it. He also filmed um the firefighters fighting the fire. So he was like watching his handiwork. >> He was getting ████ hard off that ████ >> You never know. >> This guy's weird, man. >> Right. He apparently is vis visibly anxious during the video uh during the interview when he was talking to the cops. And he um he also um called 911 and he had a question to uh chat GPT about a cigarette lighting a fire indicating that he wanted to preserve evidence of himself trying to assist in the suppression of the fire and he

3:21 wanted to create evidence regarding a more innocent explanation for the cause of the fire. >> He was asking Chad GBT. >> Yeah. But he was calling 911. He's like he's like I think it was started by a cigarette. Like that kind of thing like to to like throw them off his trail. >> Yeah. cuz he's obviously not. >> Meanwhile, he's there like putting it out after it's already too big. >> So, it would have been better if he didn't say ████ >> Uh, >> didn't look in GPT. >> I would guess that. Yeah, >> cuz they cracked his phone. They found all that ████ >> Yeah, cuz Chpt can now also give police informations that they require. Meaning like whatever you type in if you're, you know what I mean, >> and stop asking it questions. >> Well, what he didn't know though is that they already knew that it was lit by some kind of igniter. Like they already ruled out fireworks, for example. They ruled out um power lines, lightning. Uh, another big thing that everyone talked about um at the time was this fire was started by climate change or whatever.

4:11 Like it was it was started by this guy right here using an igniter. >> I do think this could be the new like school shooter cuz at school it's usually like some depressed kid feels [snorts] misunderstood and wants to like get back at the system, right? Especially when you're in that like angsty high school phase. But if you grow out of that and you still ████ hate everyone and you still hate the system and you feel like life passed you by because these guys never go burn the hood down. They go to the nice areas. So they're probably like, "Man, ████ all these guys that all ████ made it and you could just go and kind of do this." >> Yeah. Was he a resident or he specifically targeted the palace? >> They don't They're not giving us that. >> How about How about each one of us guess why he did it? >> Okay. Why do you think he did it? Well, I I said the I said the problem, so you guys got to >> Okay. Okay. Okay.

5:01 >> We'll start with >> Okay. Well, what's up? We >> going to start with me. >> Yeah. >> All right. Okay. Okay. All right. >> You know, I need you to wake up a little bit. [laughter] >> I need you to wake up on time, Suben. So, you can we can film on time. >> So fresh right now. We're going. >> Your outfit's all right. I'll give you I'll give you >> Dude, I just slapped it on. I'm sorry. >> He got that for 20 bucks at Costco yesterday. >> It looks like it. >> Wanted to look like a dad. >> I like it. You guys went to Costco yesterday? Yep. I had to get disposables for your guys. >> Back to the prompt, though. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ████ Go ahead. >> Back to the prompt. Um, >> real quickly, while you guys try to come up with funny things with your brains, >> they haven't determined still what caused the eaten fire yet, which happened the same exact day, right? So, could have been an ember flu in that direction. You just don't we just don't know yet. So, you know what's ████

5:52 wild is a high percentages of these fires are done by firefighters. >> Really? >> Firefighters, >> they ████ ar they're arsonists, too. Cuz they a lot of them they become firefighters cuz they like fire. But the main reason is they they want action and they want to be a hero and they're ████ bored and they're just like, "Man, I never get to slide down this pole. I'm just bored. I don't know what to do." I'd want to slide down the pole. >> Yeah, but you want I bet you would you want to do it for like purpose like oh they need me. You don't you don't want to just do it for fun, right? >> So like cuz you could do it for fun anytime. But these guys, they'll go in the mountains. >> They'll start lighting some ████ up and they go oh and then they call the fire department on themselves and then they wake up and then slide down the pole and they're like they need me and then they ████ go I'm not even playing like I'm

6:44 I'm just >> I've heard of this before also. I know that they do controlled burns to try to prevent stupid ████ like this from happening. >> Yeah, but they can't do that in California right now. >> That's exactly right. >> Y >> cuz of Bark's favorite governor. >> Yep. >> I love him. >> This episode is brought to you by DraftKings. All of your favorite NBA players are back. And DraftKings Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NBA is the place to bet on all the NBA stars this season. New customers bet just five bucks and get three months of NBA League pass, plus score $300 if your bet wins. Pay them bonus bets. Download the DraftKing Sportsbook app and use code off the record. That's code off the record. Bet five bucks and get three months of league pass. Plus, get $300 in bonus bets if your bet wins in partnership

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8:27 Like when you look at that mug shot, that guy's like about it. >> There's no remorse, huh? >> Yeah. Like it looks like he wants to be like, "Yeah, I did this." And it's probably bitterness, jealousness, you know, about people that >> I did burn your house down. >> Yeah. But but it looks like he's down for it. >> It doesn't look like he was going through a hard time. >> Yeah. >> It looks like he's just about it. >> Probably ████ everyone at Palisades High School that ever ████ bullied him. And he was like, "F███ you guys." 10, 20 years later. >> The fires killed 12 people. destroyed more than 6,000 houses and buildings in the Pacific Palisades. And and the craziest thing, too, is that they're not rebuilding over there. >> Well, now they just got approved for low-income housing thanks to my favorite governor. >> Yeah. >> You mean Subie's boss? >> Yeah. >> But they're definitely not rebuilding over there. They're they're not they don't have anything like like indicating

9:18 that they're rebuilding right now because apparently the permitting process is still going on. >> Yeah. It's insane. And apparently also also the septics like um the septics on the beach, they need to be redone completely because >> I just started seeing uh the Eaton Canyon area homes go for sale and the wording is crazy. So, you know, what's actually happening is it's a scorched piece of land, but the if you go on Zillow, it'll be like beautiful half acre Altadena lot for the home of your dreams. Only your imagination can limit whatever. And you're like, you're just saying that the previous house got ████ burned to a crisp. So, you have a blank slate >> and it's still going for like 1.3 million or whatever. It's just a nothing. And you have to go in and there's still like runoff from the ash. So you still have to do your own clean

10:09 up like all that stuff cuz it's like the fire causes so much other aftermath that you actually don't have a clean place to live. >> Well, it's a lot of chemicals in there too. So you have a whole environmental issue as well. >> Especially those old school homes built with asbestous >> and it's all burnt up and ████ up. >> I actually went down Monrovia and uh Eaten Canyon just to check it out. Man, it is crazy. And it's weird how like it's not the whole block. It'll be like one house is standing and all the homes around it is just burnt to a crisp and then you go down >> that that one house standing. Is it like untouched? >> Yeah. >> There are some that are untouched and then all the houses around are burnt. >> It's weird. >> Well, some of that stuff some of those houses were built that way. >> It would be like every other house is just burnt down and then some of them

10:59 they're completely like it doesn't seem like they had a fire. And then it's just a weird like it you would think the whole thing would be leveled and then sometimes you just see bricks like like a frame of a house and then you just >> weirdest part when you just see like a bunch you drive down a street and it's like all only the brick chimneys because those ones like can withstand a fire >> cuz they're fireplaces. >> Yep. Or you just see a cinder block wall and then everything else is done. Everything is just like >> Yeah. It's a weird site. Looks like a war zone. Yeah. >> Looks like Ukraine. Nah, looks like a forest you I don't know. >> It's sad, too, because a lot of those lots are being sold right now, which which means the homeowners are displaced and likely just giving up on it, like thinking like, I'm not going to rebuild cuz it's going to take too long and I don't even know if it's going to be financially worth it for me. It's >> And some people didn't even get insurance money.

11:49 >> Mhm. >> So, they're like, well, ████ I I lost everything. I'm not getting paid back. I got to go do some other stuff. And um I think they cut out a lot of insurance, fire insurance. >> Yeah, they did in the months years before I think. Yeah. >> A lot of insurance companies were leaving California during um COVID and stuff. >> Something about like they weren't cleaning up the rubble or like the the so the fire hazard warning things were like really high. Do you remember that town in central California that burnt the ████ down like years before that? It was called um it started with a P or something. Paradise. It was like a ironic kind of city name, but um >> I think you're right. Paradise fire. Yeah. >> So >> campfire. It was in Paradise. >> Oh, okay.

12:39 >> They called it the campfire. >> So it happened from a campfire. >> Yeah. >> So yes, >> 85 fatalities, displaced more than 50,000 people. >> What was it? 2022. >> 2018. >> 2018. So the whole town burnt the ████ down. like the whole ex like and then they're like, "Oh, this is going to be like a problem in California." They've been saying that like 2018 and then um you know like the tree huggers and stuff, they didn't want us to cut down trees or do control burnings, >> brush removal, any of that. >> Yeah. And remember like 2019 we had those crazy like rains and then like we had so much rain that it uh solved our drought problem. >> Oh yeah. >> So it was like Yeah. We're like, "Yay, we're out of a drought, right?" But then it created so much more greenery and then you know every summer gets hella dry, right? So it was like years of that and then it was like

13:29 everything [snorts] caught on fire like from the forest everything. Remember when um what's that one museum by Santa Monica? >> The Getty. >> The Getty. Do you guys remember that people were recording the whole hill on fire? >> Yeah. And that was like a year before Palisades and >> the four or five. Yeah. Five. Yeah. >> And I think during that time is when the insurance companies were like, "Hey, this is too risky. Like, we can't we can't do it no more. >> If you guys aren't going to do anything about this, yeah, we're going to get out of here." >> And so, right when they cut, all those homes started burning down. And I'm like, "Dude, that just feels like such a odd coincidence, huh?" >> Yeah. >> My conspiracy hat comes on and goes, "What if that was controlled?" >> Well, it's also cause and effect, too. It's like they're literally the insurance companies are literally

14:19 warning you like, "Hey, you guys got to do something about this because something could happen." It's similar to the campfire. The campfire happened because of a Pacific Gas and Electric transmission line. So, like it was just like a little issue, live wire like arked against a steel tower and that showered molten metal onto dry grass and brush and that ignited the whole thing off. >> I mean, that's what happened in Lahina if you don't believe the whole like laser ████ >> Yeah. Like they they said a power line snapped during high wind, caught on fire. High wind just went, you know, >> that makes sense to me. >> And I think Eaten Canyon at the time they were suspecting that cuz someone was recording like some power lines sparking and then during that time it was super windy so it just snapped. So, >> and if you have this these conditions cuz all that vegetation cause and

15:10 effect, it's going to be something. It could be lightning strike, could be live wire, could be anything. >> Yep. But there's that's just a bunch of tinder ready to go. >> And the with the high winds, you can't stop that. >> It's crazy. It is crazy. >> That's what disturbs me about the Palisades fire is that they knew Newsome's office knew. Karen Bass's office knew, mayor of LA, they all knew that high wind scenario with a fire would have been a disaster. And they didn't check the reservoirs. They didn't care to check the reservoir. >> Yeah. And that they plug into the fire hydrants and there's no water in there. But there's water on the beach like like 300 feet away. >> Isn't it weird though? Like in the Maui situation and LA situation, right? Both situations, the mayors or like the the uh they're like on vacation >> during the fire. >> And I'm like, what's going on?

16:00 >> I think what's going on is they're usually on vacation more than we think they are. [laughter] >> Yeah. That part. >> Do we know what the mayor's doing today? Like, you know what I mean? Like, no. Hell no. But but during a situation then all of a sudden we find out, oh okay, he's on vacation. It reminds me like something was going down in Texas and everyone's like, "Where's Ted Cruz?" Like, "Oh, he's on vacation." It's like that. But you wouldn't know that Ted Cruz, the senator from there, is on vacation unless something's going down. >> Or there's all those photos of uh Joe Biden like sunbathing on the beach during his presidency. I'm I didn't know he sunbathe that much. >> Yeah. >> I'm like, does he have ████ to do? >> Trump goes golfing every single day. >> Yeah, but he he tells us he's going golfing. [laughter] He's straight up about it. >> He postes on Instagram. What's cracking? I'm out here whole file, ████ [laughter] >> You know what I mean? Like he not hiding it like all these other presidents like, "Oh, sorry. My fault, dog. I was out

16:51 here baiting my ████

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