0:05 So with all the stuff going on in Minnesota, this has kind of created like a backwind of a lot of tough guys who are rising up about the situation. So this is one of the many tough guys. Give me one second. HBNV, forgive me. >> [laughter] >> Don't buy an HBNV. All right, here's a very, very tough guy. Very tough guy. People have been asking when's the time? After today. The song has been sung. The song has been sung. Where's this from? I I heard it before. >> [groaning]
0:57 >> Wait, what is that a joke or like what? >> No, he's dead serious. >> What is he trying to say? Like rise up? >> Rise up and yeah, it's time to rise up. And do what? He looks like that dude from ████ um Dunder Mifflin. Like the the guy that's the young guy. Jim with a beard. So it's time to rise up, but nothing else after that. Just rise up. >> All right. The song has been sung. I just can't imagine like not just filming this, but then dropping the music in and editing it and then also thinking that this is tight and putting it on the internet. He's like imagining all of us rallying up and being inspired by him. And then being like, dude, I'm going to take a stance now. But then he didn't say anything. So what if it's like the other side he's trying to go against is he's rallying up? I don't even know what side he's Is he like fight ice? Or is he
1:49 telling ice to stand up even harder? Yeah, [laughter] I don't know which side he's on. That's even funnier. It's just generically inspiring depending on who you send it to. So you said it to both sides? Like ████ the protesters. Rallying [laughter] eyes. Yeah. Like Like you've been I didn't know which who like Are you telling yeah? He's been living in soy for so ████ long bro. You know what I mean? Like god dude. >> It's the theater kid ████ man. It's like >> He's been so protected by his parents for so ████ long man. He's never been sucked. >> [laughter] >> Jesus Christ man. Didn't dancers tell her to do this in high school and stuff? Like this kind of thing? Dancers? >> You know like when When something goes on well when something goes on goes on like locally or something or internationally, I just remember like the dancer kids would do the gayest ████
2:39 about it. >> dancer kids at that age are still theater kids though. It's the same it's the same ████ >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, here's a here's a kid who's who's a little bit There's a here's a kid who's a little bit more on the nose with the messaging. >> That's helpful. >> Yeah, that I think Bart will know what he means. So it says Minnesota Minnesotans are in right now. Dude, this can't be real bro. >> [laughter] >> He's about to laugh dude. >> No, he's not. >> He's ████ around. >> around dude. >> thinks he's like tough. No, he does not bro. Dude, he eats ice for like 10 minutes. >> [clears throat] >> This clip is long. Those are that's really impressive. Teeth skills though. Like my teeth will get too cold and then
3:29 it'll get into the nerve and then I'll be I'm living in soy. Okay, so I know what stance he's doing is eat ice, right? And then the the the clothing that he's wearing it's yeah. He looks like he doesn't want to take this bite by the way. >> [clears throat] >> It's like a nice ASMR video. It sounds like a dog eating kibble. It's so hard for me to wrap my brain around what I'm watching. >> [laughter] >> It's just everything they do so ████ performative. It's so corny. It's a white guy, right? White guy saying pretty much ████ ICE, eat them, right? So, it's a white guy going uh I'm pro-immigration or whatever, right? But then the ICE guy, he's like, I'm an immigrant that I don't want immigration. [laughter] >> [gasps] >> So, he's saying ████ Zeus, let Jesus
4:22 come in. [laughter] It's like, what the hell? There's Jesus's on both sides, dude. >> haven't looked at it deeply. You know what it reminds me of? Those guys that just go and like try to put tomato sauce on Mona Lisa to make make a point. >> Yeah, like Well, they're not He's not even doing that much. That's true. [laughter] That's true. He's just chewing on ice. That makes that ████ look respectable. >> That's true. That looks like real activism compared to this. It'd be like them doing it on a JPEG as a demo. Hey, Anthony's about to say something gay. Check this out. I'm trying to find >> [laughter] >> He's about to say something gay. Check this out. trying to trying to trying to figure out like >> language. You're ready. Well, number one, I'm a dancer, so I'm basically just like a theater kid. Um so, I I can relate. >> I was literally in theater. I I was a theater kid. I understand. But I I do think that it's not so much like uh the
5:12 if this and that of like if I say ████ ICE or ICE out or something like that, then I'm talking about like how I'm pro like leave these immigrants here period. I think it's more like a ████ ICE in the way that you guys are doing stuff. >> [snorts] >> Like I too don't necessarily want like absolutely illegal people here. I'm more open to it maybe, but like I think it's the manners that ICE is going about stuff that is like pissing people off in Minnesota. So, I think when they're saying ICE out, I don't think it's like leave all immigrants alone. I That maybe is what it is for a lot of people actually to be fair cuz that's what I hear. I think the argument is more like like ████ ICE in terms of like the way that they're going about stuff and especially for Minnesota, it's more like I get out for now at least. >> People get mad at cops for doing ████
6:02 up ████ Like beating up people. >> Didn't say that. Yeah, I agree. I can Let me suck on a popsicle and I'll show ICE what I really feel. >> [laughter] >> It's like I don't know what you're doing and then the other guy too. I was confused like are you against ICE or you want to promote ICE? Like who which side are you trying to rise up? >> Cuz I don't think this is meant for us. It's meant for the people that are on his side to be to go like yeah, brother. When they go man, this slaps like that's for that. It's not meant It's like not for us. >> But what I hate about that is is not only ineffective, but the preaching to the choir ████ Yeah. It's like They think they're doing something good for society when they're jacking each other off and I'm like Okay, if you really wanted to make a difference, right? You go to city hall. You ████ talk to your You know, you talk to your representatives. Like that
6:52 you you say I don't want them in my neighborhood. You don't It's like what the ████ are you doing? This situation just to specifically take it to Minnesota though, like Minnesota specific If let's say I'm I'm a resident there and I go to my city hall. My city hall is already on my page. They also want ICE out, right? Governor there wants it out and stuff like that and I'm merely speaking from like the idea of like what can you do past like what a normal person should be able to do from a political change standpoint, right? Cuz now when it's a federal conversation and their their entire state feels a certain way already, their state wants this federal power, this government overreach out of their state then what else can you do? I'm not justifying like this is the best way to go about it. I'm just like genuinely like what what is the plan of action though because as a local you can't just go to your city hall. They're already on your page. They
7:43 already hear it. I think one of the most effective things that people can do is is take the time to constantly record. Because once you have video evidence, it's undeniable. Like with the whole Alex Pretty thing, right? If, you know, if it's really real where they did disarm him and then just shoot him up cold-blooded, yeah, that's video evidence. And you have enough of that then also cuz I I just don't think they're trained well. Like in general, like it a lot of law enforcement is like watching it. Like my hunch is they're not trained well. But law enforcement are saying, "Yeah, that's not protocol. That we don't ████ do ████ like that." So then that puts pressure from the nation to like actually, you know, it's it's embarrassing. They're not doing things well. They're not following protocol. Now you can take that evidence and you, you know, I'm sure there's a law firm
8:34 out there that would prosecute based on or like, you know, they'll they'll fight it in court. So it's like that's all super effective. Not only the most ideal version, but like you, you know, there's just a bunch of really hard and emotionally like kind of riveting stuff that's being thrown out online really quickly, right? Whether they're seeing something without context in a video of somebody, a bystander being like kind of basically murdered or like even the quick response from like the DOJ or Homeland Security or whatever saying things and like painting their narrative right away as well. It's it's it's probably just frustrating for people who are living that. So what do what do they have? Feel like you elected people to represent you and then they're not actively representing you. Maybe they're they're saying the right things, but they're not doing the right things, right? Then then maybe you feel helpless and you have to do something really gay to
9:25 get people's attention. That makes sense. I mean, the people that were supposed to represent you, they're ultimately going to care more about their political career. Shot Alex Pretty, they weren't even ice, were they? No, they're border patrol too. So I think a lot of the times people they don't even have their facts. So, they watch that and then they chew like ice cubes. And then they're like, "Wait, they're not You're just blaming wrong people for That's true. That's like saying ████ the police when it was the FBI that was doing something. It's like you're directing your anger toward the wrong >> and immigration. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> You get it right. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of misdirected anger, but yeah, I think it goes back to like people don't know what to do, so they do performative art. Like I get >> the sentiment. I get you're like things shouldn't be done this way, innocent people shouldn't be hurt. I think we're all on the same page. But then that doesn't have to equal let's make
10:15 more gay videos. Like what Steve's saying. Like what what Where's the Where do they draw that line? I'm [laughter] like, "Things aren't right. Let's be gay." Like what what what blows my mind is like that See, this guy watched that other guy's video and he's like, "You know what You know what would just get the movement like The movement's so close, but what really bring it over the edge is if I make a gay video, too." Yeah. I I think what makes me cringe hard is like you guys, I don't think I really don't think that it's authentic. Like I feel like it's so performative and you're not about it. And that's what I I To me, it's like whether I care about the cause or not. I believe that people should have the First Amendment right to do stuff, right? But I want them to be effective. I want them to actually like get something across. And I know that
11:05 like art and history, like you use activism through art, it does start movements. But not this ████ This s███'s going to ████ make people want to walk away from it. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. on the scene, they're not authentic, either. Cuz I think if you're a true recorder, you wouldn't cross into the agitator role. >> Yeah, they know the rules. >> If the cops are already tell you to back the ████ up, you're way too close. >> First Amendment recorder guy. >> Yeah, if you're just on the sidewalk, I'm going to document this ████ and see what's actually happening. Then you're actually recording. But I think because they're making content, they can't stand there for 3 hours waiting for boring ████ to happen. So they have to go and antagonize it. They have to make it make the action happen, yeah. Cuz they don't want to edit all around all that. Yeah. First Amendment dudes are really skillful at riding that line where you can't get rid of them. But then yeah,
11:56 the things you're talking about is a different thing. It's like they're they're like, "Man, nothing's happening. We got to get some Yeah, let's go [laughter] start some ████ Here's another one is like they can organize enough to have like a what you call it? Like a like a group chat, right? And we're like ICE is over here. ICE is over there. I think it takes just a little bit more organization to have a watchdog group, which they already have. Like a an observing report group for like um local police, right? Certain areas they don't trust the police, so they they send people over there. Someone's getting arrested right now. So it's like you can create that, organize, already you're kind of already doing it. But instead of harassing ████ ICE, just make sure that they're following protocol, legal protocol. But people have to learn like the law cuz they don't understand what's going on. If there's a warrant to serve, get the ████ out of the way. Like they they're trying to go and grab somebody who's actually
12:46 committed a crime. Do you guys remember when um when Dylan Mulvaney got paid by Bud Light to like hold a beer or some ████ And then like the right started making videos like Kid Rock came out and made a video where he gunned down a bunch of beers. I thought that ████ was gay, too. Yeah, that is pretty gay. >> Like it was like it was the same thing to me. Like less [clears throat] cringey obviously than this cat. Like but the same in the main. Like still theater kid weird gay ████ But then this this type of thing does do that has that effect of like I do I do honestly want to know ways that I can kind of understand the other side. Like I'm I'm really open to that. But then when you see ████ like this [laughter] I'm just more like, "Oh yeah, Now, I remember. ████ that side." >> [laughter] >> Look at what Super Bowl halftime show this weekend. It's going to be Bad Bunny against like the lamest, gayest ████
13:36 >> Yeah, of course. Both both people are being real gay. Yeah. And I really I understand that, but but then my my take on immigration is really ████ I guess I would call it different where like I'm a supporter. Like I'm a big fan of like anybody who's trying to run some type of cleverness against the system. That is how I view illegal immigrants. I think, "Dude, you're doing some renegade ████ You're really doing it." But, if you're sleeping on it and you end up getting caught up because you didn't run your ████ or file your stuff or dodge ICE to that effect, you're going to get caught and that's just like anything. But, I'm not going to be like go get them. I'm I'm going to also be like that's pretty cool that you skirted it for that long. >> Dude, that's me. When I'm watching like a heist movie, I'm rooting for the bad guys the whole time. I think it's I think it's it's honestly like commendable that you were able to get into the country illegally and stay here that long and not get caught. I'm
14:26 not going to I would never rat anybody out, but I would just be like if you get caught up because you made a mistake or you thought, you know, they weren't going to come for you and you're 40 years, no process paperwork, nothing. Like you kind of deserve to get caught at that point, you know. And if you ran across the safe line and somehow you got grandfathered in cuz a lot of immigrants have. That's one of the arguments that they make. It's like, "Hey, some people came here illegally, but then, you know, they made it past that finish line. How come they got to do it, but the new ones can't?" And I'm like, "Dude, like there's different rules that keep coming up try to get you past the finish line. If you got through, good." >> Just don't be in denial that you are finessing the system because honestly that's what you're doing. And it's tight, but like don't be in denial that the thing you're doing you got someone on your ass. Like it's going to happen.
15:16 Well, there's a there's the other argument too where like people just are just coming up in like random search and frisk and grabbing US citizens and all that and I'm like, "Yeah, when it's when it's on the ice side ████ up and then then and then if if these things are happening, then it's like, "Yeah, that sucks too." >> That's just no different to anything. If they were looking for a guy who robbed McDonald's and he's wearing exactly what I am and they go to the area and they grab me and I just don't want to show my ID, they're going to figure that out in jail. Like whether or not I'm the guy. They're not going to figure out in the spot. They're not going to be like, "Okay, if you say you're not him, we're just going to keep Yeah, but you're having you're talking about nuance right now and I don't think these cats even know that ████ bro. I'm just saying that like coming from a person that admires some crimes, like even I even I have to be real. You can sit here and be like, "I'm actually for your cause, but
16:08 here's the stipulations for everything." and they go, "Oh, you're trying to justify it?" It's like, "No, ████ listen." >> you just have to be good at your crime. If you're not good at being illegal, don't be illegal. That's all I'm saying. If you're really good at it, that's ████ tight. Yeah. [laughter] That's really tight. No, seriously. >> Get good. Move out of the ████ area if it's filled with ice. Yeah.
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