0:00 but you also know that it's bad for you yeah and you know that you can't do this all the time and it's not something that you're doing in secret and you're kind of doing by yourself you can be a casual drinker but you can be an alcoholic and it's the same thing with with the you can be a casual Jacker but you could be a obsessive jackol jackol just a casual Jack did you [Music] guys all right we were just having a discussion about what in fact what what make what make a simp oh let me tell you guys I got this I'll take the floor uh massive insecurity crippling insecurity MH I think that's a good prerequisite are you speaking from a place of such deep knowledge on this yeah why did you jump in like Peterson some people might say I'm a some people think uh you know this is my wheelhouse have you ever paid for simpness though like even a
0:52 quarter no then I don't think it qualifies you as the you could be a s in other ways okay what's the other ways just like are you mad at me like that asking my wife mad at me um asking her if like was something I something did I do something to annoy you think that's sing if you're no but that's different than someone spending like a grand a month on only fans okay maybe I don't know I think the definition of sing then maybe I just had it all wrong how much how much money do you have to do you have to minimize on only fan spending to stay from being a s I think if you me personally maybe I'm just cheap but if you spend money on only fans you you have like five accounts I think what about you do the $1 I'm in for the $1 I'm here for the $1 is that a month is that s yeah1 12 bucks a year also also like it depends on how
1:44 you use only fans it's like are you falling in love with a girl that's a top top 5.5% Creator and she has hella people but you think you're so special well you are you're top 5% you earned it no I mean like you're the one sipping on her no yeah I know that yeah so it's like so it's even lower percentage if you get the love of I think it's it's $1 equals 1% Sim if you spend $1 you like 1% $100 is 100% simp yeah if you spend 100 bucks a month hey actually that's a good 1% is a dollar that's fair that's that's a great way of put and also but there's physical like in life in real life simps too you know what I mean like like in real life simp is like dudes that be like friend zone and they shower their hom grow with gifts and then they think that that's going to get late but then like in real life they're not really friends he's mad like mly in love with
2:35 her yeah he get his world's sweetest prom proposal and gets a no I just look at it like it's the guy who's where the ball's not in their court and they're just constantly digging the hole deeper and they're just like well cuz there's I think there's a difference between all of that right like people that you know personally in real life and you're simping for that person there's um also like fake online you're buying affection right I'm let's let's paint variables that might make it make sense though right because we have to be empathetic imagine like you struck out for like years like you just cannot get somebody and then imagine you also don't have that same relationship with money for whatever reason you don't look at like I need to save for this cuz I don't have a family to pay for I don't have like a whatever these types of goals you just happen to be that person not everybody has relationships with money the same so
3:25 then you have this Outlet where for like 12 bucks a month this ████ way the hell out of your league girl is going to give you attention she's not going to be yours but when she is talking to you that's your moment you know what I'm saying and she's saying ████ that you'll never ████ hear in your life I don't like when you do this and she's showing you things that you'll never ████ do I don't like when you make there's the exclusivity thing that you feel in your head it's like it's like you're like hey I'll pay you this if you send me this and so they send it to you so you think you're the only one in the world who got that can I say something I think only fans is is you lying to yourself that's my biggest issue with it you know what I mean like quick note this isn't Like Your Personal Diary episode Nick so let's just make sure we keep it it's just funny because I know like what
4:16 cat does on only fans right she rates dude's dicks and degrade them on that so like there's a guy that's looking for a deep personal connection and feel special from cat talking ████ about his small dick yeah yeah for sure well he's going to a place the only place where he can go to talk to someone who will just give him exactly what he wants yeah but that's also a sick like reverse only fans right often times you would assume that you're paying the chick to send like their nudes or something she's got the other way where she doesn't even necessarily have to send nudes cuz she's getting nudes and then just saying ████ about them I heard the most successful only fan stuff are The Kinks and then the weird ████ and then like I remember what's her name um Trisha pis was crushing it just eating food and being naked or like ████ and doing like weird stuff with food and then that makes sense I mean you can get something you won't get somewhere else yeah so I
5:07 don't know if only fans is the best example but I think what I what I think about when when I think about simpton is guys that are buying affection whether it's like in real life or um online and they're somehow believing that that's real even though it's clearly a catfish it's clearly like dude she's not is affection the line so for example like let's say a guy pays a buck to get a kind words like Words of Affirmation versus a guy that pays $1,000 but he's just jacking to her is one worse than the other because one is like emotions and the other is it all relativity what if the guy who's paying $1,000 is a billionaire what if the guy who's you know what I'm saying like what does it matter but I think if it's emotionally connected then you're you're actually going to be affected in your
5:58 life outside of that I think delusion because I think it's delusion like if I was going on to only fans I'm going there to come and there's no relationship it's like I go to the strip straight if I get a lap dance at a strip club and the girls go you're not like other guys like you're like cool and special like I'm like I'm here to bust I'm here to ████ bust I'm get on one knee dude I'm going to ask her to marry me but they all they all say like that's the game like they're they're to make you feel special in that moment you play along Co you go home whatever it doesn't ████ matter but there's guys that actually believe me but then it's like I'm the young they like me cuz like they like young guys like but it's maybe not even like the other guys though I I don't think it's it it may not even be that deep it might just be whatever chemical went up from her saying that they just want that again yeah so it's
6:50 it's they they're probably not even thinking that they believe it or not it's just I just felt good cuz in in Anthony's example it's like most might be like they never had that attention from women they can't even differentiate they just know that that feels good it just feels good yeah whatever it is cu that's why I think there's also a point in like maybe defining what delusion is and maybe also self-awareness cuz to some people on like in the whole like simp Spectrum even if you're not if it's not real sex it's delusion so even on Jack into to porno is delusion you're not really having sex you're having sex with your hand or whatever you're watching people so I feel like what is the full spectrum is there a healthy amount of sing or I don't know the funny thing is um a friend of mine who did Sugar dating for a long time she said that she would get the most money by just being very honest and saying that like I'm really like poor right now I
7:40 need money for this I need like it's not like oh if you give me $1,000 I'll do this it's like she's actually talking about her real life problems to him they want to and they want to save her yeah they're just trying to constantly save her yeah I could see that kind of so they're Heroes they're not SS they're Heroes they actually it's legitimately affecting her positively you could see it if let's say you're like you're like always getting the ████ kicked out of you in life right and then it it might make you feel like a strong guy to save someone yeah and if she's like I can't pay my ████ bills this year and then it's like all right I got you girl she like thank you there's also the dark side of that which is the guy who uh he's like hey I paid for this you have to give me a thing yeah right send me a titty now now provide the service I have paid you provide the service that is the agreement have you guys ever seen this
8:30 in real life yet where I don't know if this this is like a move that a lot of guys do I feel like more now where they'll be like let's say like a guy meets a girl right and then um later on after like maybe like a day or two they'll just like venmo 80 bucks and be like get yourself something nice today yeah what yeah a dude just randomly a girl yeah why I don't know any dude that does that it's not our generation but like it's a thing now will they'll just be like w is that like a the something trans about that like becomes because like there's like a transaction there's an expectation that like develops they're going to cash in later it's just a style of cing it's weird to me but like or is it like streaming culture you know how like you're streaming and you send gifts but then now it's like well I'm streaming in real life so I'll ████ just send a gift too yeah yeah like if you talk to girls now a lot of girls
9:21 today have had that actual experience where a guy just for no reason was just like flexing in that way well here's a question when you talk to these girls or when you hear about it are they like that was so weird it depends how old they are cuz you know cuz younger girls there are girls that are also like if you ask them on a date have you seen these like things that like girls are like oh if you ask me on a date you better send me the money to like look good oh W what the ████ I swear I've seen that on on Twitter it's not our culture at all but it's real it's but you don't go like dude we're just going to the beach you just need a bikini well no they go bikinis are expansive yeah well they go if I'm going to be there I'm going to wear makeup that cost me money send money for nails that happened to my buddy he was he was on Tinder he was talking to this girl and they were about to hang out and she was like can you send me $300 for my haircut so I can look nice for you well
10:11 you don't respond back and go come as you are oh that he I like you the way you are but that's the litmus test it's like do you have enough financials to like you know be M what happened to ████ like those candy cane grams you send in classrooms it's a dollar you know and they show up at ████ home economics hey Elizabeth art send you a candy cane yeah that would light on my can't wait to ████ him later suck them off for a candy cane cuz in a way that's that's also the same thing that's financially sing too you know 100% see yeah what's the definition of sing I don't even know but it was only $1 so you're good under the Anthony Le's 1% yeah 1% I do think you can even s too hard for the girl you're dating cuz I remember one one time my friend had this very bad um pattern where he falls so quickly so fast he scares the
11:03 girls away right so like no no no no no no no Bart knows this person but um yeah but like like uh I'll tell you who it is later but during the time he was with this girl he um you know he got expensive jewelry for her uhhuh and everyone was trying to tell him like you're it's too early for that like God that's you guys you know it has to be a special occasion like I haven't even done that yet and I'm with my girl for like a year or whatever I'm like you can't do that so quickly do you know how much the jewelry was and it was like a promise ring and all this ████ a promise ring yeah and he's not rich but he hangs with rich people was it like a $100 ring cuz that's a $100 no it was like gold jewelry it was like real jewelry th% and by the time by we were all in college so
11:55 you know we're not ████ Rich right and so I was like why are you doing this this and I'm like yeah you you like her a lot but there's so many other ways to like show that and then that girl she's not even like that so it's like he wants to go out of his way so it's more for him then it's like a but it's it's too much too fast which where like when girls get it they're like dude this is like crazy and then it's like he's sipping so hard that she's like I don't like this and then he repeatedly make this mistake because it's too intense out of and then it's almost like he's trying to buy love and secure her quickly and it was just weird man it's funny cuz uh smack did something like that to me in the beginning and I thought she bought you a diamond ring no no no it was like we first were like we were just like kind of first dating and then uh she surprised me by coming to a
12:45 show I was at like I was I was playing a a a show with Fu I was doing keyboards in Atlantic City and then she surprised me by showing up cuz she was in California that was mad weird was weird she want to cross the ████ country yeah yeah yeah did you feel like dude you're ruining my groupy experience I ████ no I wasn't I wasn't like I was still like exclusive to her but I just thought it was like too soon did you press the wrong key like a fre emotionally freaking sound even even my friends who were like on on tour with me were like they were like hey sorry she like asked if she could surprise you I didn't know what to say so then they helped her get the info to like be at the spot you know like and and then she was just with me for like two straight days I was like like this is kind of did you guys have a relationship of like pranks and stuff though no that that was it was a very
13:36 like sweet romantic thing she was doing but I was just like caught off guard yeah I'm not that into this chick yet it was just like way fast for me that is pretty crazy if there's no like to it like little alley oops to it but but then we like we could make fun of that and it was fine cuz cuz I was honest about it and we just we just laughed about it it's just it got it caught you off guard it's timy it's like you got lucky though cuz sometimes you're honest about it and the chick ████ out just kills herself gone yeah gone ████ well in your case maybe not mine yeah yeah well we still laugh about it today cuz I was like yo I wasn't there yet bro like it was rough how much was your plane ticket over 100 bucks 100% s yeah kind of it was yeah I would say it was a s move yeah I do feel bad for dudes that like have a very clear void in their life and so however they're trying to
14:26 cover it up and they have to like by affection yeah like Express themselves monetarily or like or I guess if you're rich it doesn't really matter but then if you have to detriment a part of your life to fill another void that part sucks isn't that just life though like some people like have companionship and don't have and they they feel this void in success or career you know what I mean it's just a different placement for it as all you know I in the weird in the weird way it's like all these guys that have like online girlfriends or only fans or whatever it's like well at least there's a mutual exchange somebody's benefiting yeah I guess that's true you know what I mean like in a in a weird way somebody's getting their kids like for example right like you know there's like super rich people s█████ relationship with their kids uhhuh so they buy all their friends kids sick presents MH and I'm like dude like just spend time with your kid and then you
15:17 don't but they're like it's like misch channeled like you see it as not attending to the issues and it's like B like just kind of it's going to burst whether it's 3 years 5 years 10 years who knows but it's like there's going to be some sort of bursting of it I think there's a lot of adult entertainment that can turn into that easy like gambling or anything but it's all about how the individual has a relationship like with porn or like anything that's like it can go really ████ up right so each individual has to figure out what their relationship is with that stimulant man's got to learn his limitations as Clint Eastwood says like so like yeah a dollar a dollar subscription could be too simpy for one while the other person's just like n just once in a while it's not a big deal I don't even check the subscription
16:07 anymore yeah why did you say that if that if you weren't with Tiff you would fall into this oh yeah I would kind of think like uh he is because you know I am I feel like I'm naturally a s kind of you know what I mean I'm like naturally just a very uh people pleaser kind of guy and especially you throw like romance in please us if you showed up on time that one that one that one hit hard you know and you know what though I'm actually changing my ways cuz I'm not going to be that guy I'm going to be who I am 908 909 91 you see yeah we'll see how lat get tomorrow but you think that could have happened to you yeah I think so wow that could have happened let's say you're a millionaire at 21 you think you you would have ████ spent all kinds of money on oh yeah he would lose that so fast oh yeah dude I was a I was a simp in high school you know what I
16:58 mean it wasn't until like you get your heart broken I think everyone okay that's actually important too he said we all go through that stage that's part of the and now we're mad at it because we fell for that show right that's what it is for me it's right that's why Nick's saying that he could have been that because he did do that he had one girl I could have definitely if Tiff was a bad lady and she wanted to ████ you know milk me for my $200 that I had in my name I never been milked aide of my dick my boy I knew you're going to land it I knew you going to but even when we were younger and we were going through that s stage I think we still thought it was silly to spend money for a virtual girlfriend yeah you know what I mean I think our line was still but we didn't have virtual girlfriends at the time the
17:48 way they do now but you think about the onboarding of how easy it is for guys to like just get their nuts off on porn and to feel somewhat of that dopamine hit that we talked about yeah like like that become and then the frequency of that is also alarming where you see all these kids with I I don't understand why they have so many Ed commercials for like young guys like marketing towards and I and people talk about how porn and it's psychological yeah is is is stopping these guys from getting boners at 20 years old I think it does do that yeah but I feel like Nick would be a simp for friends and everything like if he was a millionaire everyone just be like Nick help me he'll help everybody hey if you just were like a multi-billionaire tomorrow would you actually just give us hell of money I don't know dude billionaire yeah why the ████ not he just said he doesn't know said he doesn't know cuz he's cheap as ████ I
18:38 don't know I don't know here I have a question remember $1 is 1% I'll for you ████ so I'm really trying to understand Anthony's point so like here's a question no no I'm serious I'm no I'm I'm not ████ around it's not my point it's my empathetic understanding but like let's say you really like Lambos right you can't afford one is renting one for a day is that unhealthy that's simping technically right you're just trying to fill a void or trying to you know what I mean and then you're like but it's mutually beneficial transactionally the guy that's renting it to is making money you get to experience for a day I guess it depends how many pictures did you take inside of it oh and is it the one that's on Hollywood Boulevard just waiting to be rented yeah yeah to me it's that to me it's what are you doing it for right are you pretending that you own it or are you just like hey I want I want to experience how this is like just for a day cuz like I've I've always wanted to get into like a ████ space
19:28 simulator or whatever the ████ I can't say I'd be filming it the whole ████ time but like I would love to do like all that ████ my my father allow recently just um there was this whole thing about how he was flying to Hawaii for something and then he's like oh but like I I I paid for an upgrade or I like entered into the lottery for an upgrade to first class and then I won it and then so that means I got to pay $500 and I would be able to ride first class or something like that I seen that thing it's not a winning lottery yeah but the here's the thing at first my first gut reaction was like dude like you already got like money like this I don't know if this was the right thing but then I had to like back up for a second and be like he lived his whole life he's never flown first class you know what I mean so like experience one time I was like how can you get mad at that do it again you got a problem you know what I mean like I don't think that's necessary but it's like if you wanted to just ████ once
20:18 just to know yeah I'm like dude ████ do you dude first class is way sicker than only my fans though for sureit wa bro but what if you had only fans flat attendant no you don't no you you know you don't you always get some dude no bro it's always some dude no ████ way I think that is that is a difference I feel like it's like are you really trying to cosplay as this thing or are you just like try and also how much are you zooming out cuz if you zoom out even more it could be like hey sir it's all these first time things that you're doing is causing you this financial pain cuz everything's going to be a first time thing my first time getting champagne service my first time eating at this Mion Star Restaurant my first you know it doesn't end does though like like you know like my uh like my parents and in-laws they all like saved up for so long to do certain experiences right
21:08 it's like we want to go to you know uh Hawaii right we want to go when we're in Hawaii we want to eat at the nicest restaurant in ha it's not their lifestyle it's not like who they are it's something they want to experience yeah but the thing about only F like talk if you're a guy and you're having a a relationship with a only fans person is that healthy for their brain long term like what is what is the repercussions of that for that individual is that doing more harm yeah is that doing more harm for their life or is that bettering their life hey D but all I'm saying is teach their own it's like me being like I love drinking alcohol where clearly it's bad for me sure yeah yeah yeah but you do it in Moder that's I think that's the moderation comes into play but you also know that it's bad for you and you know that you can't do this all the time and it's not something that you're doing in secret and you're kind of doing by yourself right that's the other weird
21:59 thing about it is like how many of these guys were openly talking about how they subscribe and talk to these girls that's why the the closest thing I can I can I can associate it to his addiction cuz you can be a casual drinker but you can be an alcoholic and it's the same thing with with the you can be a casual Jacker but you could be a obsessive jackol jackol just a casual Jacker did you guys ever think in your life you would ever hear the issue that men are having that they're they're watching too much porn and they're masturbating too much did you guys ever think in your lifetime you would hear that hear that about as soon as I watched my first porno I saw I said oh this is dangerous yeah really I think it it works your expectations and and and then think about having an online girlfriend like that I do remember going when I was 13 when I jacked off the first time and then after you get soft when you bust I'm like I think they
22:50 planned it like this on purpose or else I'll be jacking for 12 hours straight that immediate D the immediate after gu and he like get this ████ out of here I got to take a nap I was designed this way dud and they said the the most the most visited sites of all time are all porn sites by far right so then then you zoom out and you go well also the most profitable mediums for every technological breakthrough is porn exactly so then we go like well what are we setting ourselves up for is the question yeah I don't know I don't know you ever you ever been ████ your chick and then afterwards you get the post nut and then you're like I called you a lot of names I just try to say silent I I also left a lot of Timberland logos in the [Laughter] [Music]
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