0:00 he has this crazy ability to like take someone especially if they like have never gotten a chance at anything like that's his like main target audience like I don't know how he does it um that's what I try to do and I choose the wrong people he would kill imagine because of him all the homeless people are like you you got an Roth [Music] IRA welcome back everybody to another super sick episode of the careful boys and today we have a special guest we have Mr Arvin in the building AR me hey right before this cameras were on I was like how do you know Joe he's Jake's friend yeah no but how does he know you yeah he knows Jake he introduced me oh okay he knows you I
0:52 know but I don't know him that's cuz you introduced him I just met him today how does he know Joe he knows you got it okay let's move on got our story straight how do you know J um that a funny story I like I was wrapping up the role I had with Jordan bford and then I was like man I should just hit up a bunch of YouTubers and like people I want to talk to before I I actually leave the role cuz I had his email domain like Arvid Jordan bord.com was you know fantastic for those of you who don't know who Jordan bford is he is The Wolf of Wall Street the real one the real one not Leonardo DiCaprio the real guy the real one Yeah so basically I was like okay who do I hit up and I hit up a bunch of random people Jake was one of them cuz I saw his video on like religions and Cults and I was like man how do you start a cult that sounds amazing you so I was
1:43 like are you here to recruit us no I was like I was like I and I'm seeing him I was like oh this guy's this guy's going for it you know I've never seen anyone post videos like this and I hit him up and then I was like hey are you free to talk and then we just jump on a call and I start asking him like how the world works and then like like he didn't have any like answers for me at the time how that you just like hey man how does the world work kind crazy question yeah and I was like well certain things I I'll I'll keep off camera but like I I asked like really sketchy questions right and then like he didn't give me an answer he's a man of a few words verbally sometimes and then I was like no I'm not going to let this go this guy clearly is a researcher and so I kept bothering him for like weeks I was like hey how does this work how does this work can you like research and find out of your own curiosity yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then and then I felt kind of bad and I was like maybe I should give something in return so I was like hey let me help
2:34 him he's like gbt just making him work and then I started like seeing if I could help him grow his business and then like that just built kind of our our friendship over over the year and then um and then we became like business partners over over the past few years but um what's one question you asked yeah yeah I got to hear this question you don't need to tell us the answers he's like Shadow G gbt he tells you all the things in the shadow dark okay so I don't know why I'm saying anyway so this is I've never said so this a public sorry um I was really wondering like why did slavery actually end cuz historically the reasons don't make any sense when you think about it from the fact that like independently like it wasn't just the us around that time from some War that's not really what happened like around the entire world it ended all at the same time and like before that it's like thousands and thousands of years where like half of a population usually is like enslaved you know
3:25 regardless of the racial and even the by the same people yeah yeah yeah and so what usually happens is like the norm is you win a war against your neighbor and now they become the slaves no matter what country you're in right and I'm like why did this stop and I was like Jake give me the answer like why did slavy w you got to let me know yeah I got to understand this cuz I'm trying to bring it back like it didn't make any sense to me you know I'm for Bangladesh we were enslaved by the British and stuff you know so I was like okay I need to know what's going on here like why why do we get free you know why they let us free and so like my uh that's a good question that's a really good question it seems like a sick deal if you're the not the slave so like why so I'm like why would they give that up yeah if you were a slaver yeah that's kind of dope it was an interesting thing like I ended up that kind of took me to a very like crazy Rabbit Hole cuz like after I
4:16 worked for Jordan and these other celebrities I realized like pretty much everything you see in the mainstream is pretty far off from like reality and so I was like okay what's happening here and usually it's very simple like some guys just trying to make money like it's not like that crazy and like that's like most of Life some dudes just sitting there like how do I make more money um and the only difference that really happened was because of the Industrial Revolution finally there's this middle class and like eventually this whole concept of a company and businesses all all the stuff emerg and basically the real sort of interesting thing that happened was that essentially the people who wanted jobs it's kind of like what you see today with like the US and Mexico it's like a lot of like white Americans are like hey I want the job so I want to cut off the board like does that make sense like I I'm being careful with my words but basically they just say it yeah you're good essentially
5:06 they're they're like people are yeah they basically you're talking about working class so basically like say like white Americans who are lower income they want jobs and they're like okay well all the jobs are going to illegal immigrants in their head so they like let me stop so that's some form yeah they're going to undercut me what am I going to do I have a family I need to support them so it's basically this hyper competitive situation actually where people who are anti-slavery actually were the racist ones interestingly and the people who are pro slavery it's a very different Dynamic than than what you'd imagin so that was like the weird Rabbit Hole I eventually you know so he eventually gave you the answer no Jake never gave me the answer to like figure this one out on my own um but everything else was was good we worked really well together cuz like iot you do want slavery to come back no no
5:56 no no I'm a very uh uh libertarian type of guy you know do whatever you want type of guy but non the anti-slavery were the racist ones yes definitely like basically the it's really similar to people who just don't want immigrants right now to have jobs it's it's just like that it's like hey I want the jobs for myself the concept of a middle- class in jobs wasn't even a thing before the Industrial Revolution and but like once that happened pretty much people of their own ethnicity are like why are these jobs going to you know uh these individuals from other countries like they shouldn't be getting the jobs I want we a US example then it would be like God damn that guy's picking the cotton for free I charge a quarter get rid of this thing so I can charge a quarter oh that's a good rate but I like black people no he hates them no he doesn't he doesn't like them no he does
6:46 like them no he wanted to end the slavery because he doesn't like him because he took the guy's job does that make sense they still hate him like I still hate him oh but taking their job was but I just don't want him to be a slave but when he ends slavery now they have to pretty funny so then if they have to be paid then it's competition and they can get their job back so you do want to be a slaver no no no no he said he's libertarian he said he said he doesn't mind if he is I just like the idea of him calling Jake for years and going why did slavery end and Jake's like no I'm not telling you and finally he's like okay listen in it's funny how from all these Scholars the one that does know is a is a Vietnamese you know it had to take some
7:36 guy from Bangladesh and a kid from Vietnam to like figure out like why why slavery actually ended um but yeah I would say the one rule that I got out of it is like once you realize like everybody's just trying to make money for themselves that's the one universal thing that's kind of Timeless then it like life kind of starts to make a lot that is the root of a lot of even during feudalism like it's before industrialization it's just money yeah it wasn't paid in coin it was paid in crop or whatever but that's the money yeah yeah what were you doing at uh Jordan's uh his like company yeah Jordan's I mean I depends on what you want to know but the the juicy dirty ████ and when when when did you attach to the company was it banging Margo Robbie or is it after he was arrested by the FBI or like what or like yeah yeah
8:27 cuz you're young right he came up he was doing his thing in ' 80s so we were like babies yeah yeah yeah in the 80s in the80s so we were all bab like sh me this friende ████ 80 so did you are did you work for his company recently yeah so so it's like the year of the pandemic is when we when we met but yeah basically uh what's the story um I didn't actually want to work for him cuz this is going to sound bad but like I I I really like him and respect him he's brilliant guy really great guy actually but at the time I didn't think about working for him because before that I was with sea white and then the snowboarder yeah yeah yeah but that that was interesting cuz I was I was Sean White's manager and then because of that I got to go to all like the big celebrity parties that's when you see like all the a-listers and stuff and
9:18 then so to me Jordan wasn't like an a-lister so was like so I didn't like so I was just trying to find another celebrity basically and but I really liked him from a business standpoint so I was like oh let me see if I can help them like I didn't charge any money initially I was like I'm happy to help you with any of your businesses but my the only thing I want to know I just want to know the truth about things so so the only thing I want to know is like how did he become the youngest self-made billionaire when he was like in his 20s and um that was the only answer I was trying to get I was like what did this guy do differently cuz he didn't have any connections and all this stuff and I did get an answer over time it's kind of a more complicated answer but essentially it kind of boils down to um it mostly boils down to two things he has this insane ability to charge like 100 times more for something than a normal person would so he's a great salesman yeah but like it's not like he's selling like it's not like he feels
10:08 like he got a great deal he actually like the way that he's able to to charge so much is cuz he still feels like a small amount of money so like to him charging a million dollars is like pennies like it like it just feels like he's charging like does that make it's kind of a weird does it feel like and he feels like he is giving that much way more in value yeah yeah he he feels like I'm using this money now I have to hire all these employee like he doesn't feel like he's really benefiting from the situation personally unless it's like 10 50 million then it's like okay now I'm really benefiting but he really feels like a million is a small amount of money like it's like a weird it's just a weird mindset difference and then like the second thing is like he's really really good at having no ego when it comes to growing a business so like uh what they didn't explain The Wolf Wall Street movie properly is like he hired basically a thousand semi homeless people like those people that he brought you know all these people who are just kind of goofy dudes they're all they're all like people who probably didn't even
10:59 graduate high school they couldn't pass any Finance exams or anything and then he thought like hey give me those kinds of people because I can train them and they'll actually listen to what I say um they because they themselves don't have any yeah yeah cuz he used to be in the he used to be in the mean Seafood industry before he did Wall Street and so he used to deal with like meat and seafood guys so he's like he's like yeah I prefer these they're all ran by the mafia in the east coast the the produce that's tough ████ so he's like he's like a true leader then cuz if you have to lead a bunch of cars that's hard no yeah he's really like insanely good at dealing with like un undereducated people that's like his like I wouldn't know how to create like turn a team of meth heads into like Wall Street sales guys he has to handle the homeless problem that's ████ crazy we got to get the hom dude he would he would kill it yeah um what about the theard problem
11:52 though I don't I don't know which business he's talking about dude so he was able to make all those guys pretty much millionaires too yeah yeah no he he has this crazy ability to like take someone especially if they like have never gotten a chance at anything like that's his like main target audience like I don't know how he does it um that's what I try to do and I choose the wrong people he would kill imagine because of him all the homeless people are like you you got an Roth IRA it's like whoa this guy's cool this guy's sick that's actually a good idea I should I like him I like him that's good advice but uh what was I saying oh yeah and then with Jordan basically most of what we did was we'd fly around the country and like we'd meet with companies that need help with growing their sales or their um fix their
12:42 yeah just fix sorry we have a requirement to say it 10 times an episode the contract he's a great guy he's really I mean honestly I've met a lot of people now I think he's one of my favorite people like he's this insanely honest really really smart guy that like he has all these qualities that he never shows publicly but like he he's still like definitely one of my favorite people is his energy level like pourn out of the cup like some no he's pretty introverted really yeah so if he wakes up does he like wake up slowly or is he like actually this is a cool thing no cuz some high performers that I meet you're like oh you're born for this you literally are on Red Bull like not literally but like they wake up boom boom boom boom boom only need to sleep 2 hours a day they can fly every single time zone and they're just constantly crushing and I'm like the amount of
13:32 batteries you have you're made to like be the most successful person he he does have that in terms of just like his thinking battery so he's not like running around talking to a bunch of people it's mostly just me and him like so I was the president of his companies but um that's another crazy thing about him I only talked to him once and he never even met me there in a conference call and he's like hey do you want to be the president of my company like that's how like his judgment's like insane whoa and it's were you half homeless at the time yeah basically this guy's dumb enough to be my president yeah he really fits the bill I was like scratching at the time yeah everything yeah um talking about IR yeah yeah he he's an interesting guy like he only sleeps a few hours a night but I've noticed that from like a lot of the a lot of the guys that came up in the 1980s um they really don't sleep more than like two or three hours a night especially if they're from New York yeah like Donald Trump like you
14:22 know how they they said like what's this guy doing why is he up all night that's like the norm like those guys from the'80s from New York they really really don't sleep they just have like mentally they're super on uh it's not like they're physically running around doing all this stuff but Donald Trump's a good example where it's like even if you hate the guy the guy somehow at this age like he just has a lot of energy and that's kind of his whole era of people so we just got to stay up on think about how easy the show's going to be so going going back a little bit how did you go from like how did you even get to this level of like Sean like Shawn White even like how what where was did you snowboard where no I can't snowboard yeah I you his manager yeah yeah how did you land that like what it was like how do I explain it like I um so before that I was in Silicon Valley so I did like the normal like I had math degree and then I worked in tech companies like my parents you know it's
15:12 like at least you I was never a doctor but at least like startups and stuff and then um straight out of college uh yeah I worked for like like uh Oracle and like large tech compan oh wow damn then I just switched to startups and then like I just kept quitting every couple months you know job to job like and I kept like asking all your bosses what happened to slavery yeah yeah yeah yeah got to tell me the secret yeah and I yeah it was pretty bad actually it's like nine months out of each year for the first couple years after college after uh like I would just like not be working I'd just be like staying at like friends places and stuff for free um so you were kind of homeless yeah um yeah I remember like there's one year where I like actually I felt like I didn't even work at all and then I was technically under the poverty line when I got my like you know like when I was following my tax my dad I was like what
16:02 are you doing yeah this whole and then um and then yeah I just kept jumping from thing to thing and then I realized like when I jump to startups they they kind of it's a little bit more acceptable going like one year at each startup but then I heard this word Consulting you know where you're technically allowed to only spend a few months at a company I was like fantastic that's what I am I do that anyway yeah so then I so then I made up this label for myself and then I just like uh started helping a bunch of companies in Silicon Valley um primarily with like uh uh like hiring people basically um and then after that I got introduced to Shawn and I was like how the ████ do I help this like I don't even I don't know anything about sports or snowboarding or anything right um and I was like well I do know how to hire people at this point and so I was like hey let me just try to hire better
16:53 people so that was kind of my footing in and then afterwards I'd kind of learn on the job how did how how did you get introduced to Sean through Silicon Valley like rub shoulders like that no no no it was um through Tony Robbins so I I attended a bunch of his events and then I like I paid for like the Platinum tier without I didn't have enough money for it that's I just you know put all the Sean's out a lot of his events yeah yeah yeah yeah and then um and then I got introduced to him but I feel like you know I feel like a lot of people get like briefly introduced to people all the time um so I don't actually think that I think my main skill is like the moment I'm introduced to someone I'm like there to like find any way that I can actually like help them with any skill that I have so there's usually something that everybody has where they can like find a way to help somebody but um that's pretty much like the only advantage that I have when I talk to these people I like aggressively trying to find find a genuine way to to to help
17:44 them and I usually do it for free initially for like the first couple weeks um I'm sure we can use some help cleaning the floors yeah the floor does need cleaning as long as I have a place to sleep in the couch I'll take yeah dang that's cool we have many couches what year was it that you were with Shawn White like what era was that that was like 20 um 19 I think yeah 2019 he was like pretty young still huh at that time yeah he's still in his 30s yeah um yeah he's a cool guy he's super super smart guy actually um he's just like a really smart guy that happened to be a snowboarder and he just like actually this is kind of a cool thing I was like why is he this good cuz he barely trains like at all like I've never I've almost never seen the guy train and I was like where where does this come from and it's cuz his memory
18:34 is so insanely good kind of like you know if you're going to study for a test there's people who are really good at school right but if he lands a trick once like he won one of the Olympics yeah he he won one of the Olympics without ever practicing that run he just landed it once in his life like certain moves and his his memory is just insane this s███'s insane like his highlight Clips like he's ████ flying like 500 like half a football field in the air ████ crazy yeah yeah he also doesn't feel pain like that's like he doesn't really that's like one of his big things like he'll feel like if it's sore or something but he doesn't feel pain like can't like you can't break his heart all these girls are like I just can't get to it oh he's a redhead right uh kind of yeah okay cuz they have like Auburn is what he says they have like um a genetic thing where like painkillers don't work but they also have a threshold that's
19:24 really high oh redheads why you try Hannah already you dirty boy he had his wife is a Sean White a Sean Auburn oh yeah he tells Lifey you don't feel pain right let me try something real quick this is why you don't chase me when I leave it's that
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