0:00 like a 9-hour train ride overnight and then three giant random Russian dudes are in there with me. >> [snorts] >> Damn. And we're just supposed to just I'm just sleeping with you guys tonight. Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. We're going to talk about if you really believe that at the top echelon of elites there's some form of demonic worship. Like at any industry? Dude. Or just at the elite of No, of of the Western Of whoever's whoever's pulling the strings, running the world. Like does that >> I think there's so much sym- symbol ████ and like so much like where they're doing costumes and all that stuff. It sort of feels almost like normie ████ for them. You Yeah, you're talking about
0:51 like Bohemian Grove type >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where like they're doing gore ████ almost. Like yeah, where they're like bathing in blood and Eating babies. babies, but like it's like a big thing of like um newspaper or whatever it is at the time. Like You know how like in the 90s doing satanic or like like antichrist stuff was like so rebellious? I feel like that's chic pop culture now. I think that's what you're basically saying. It's mainstream. So how is it so different, right? >> Yeah, it's like paper mache, like oh baby I did paper mache baby I destroyed on the stage. Like it's like okay. >> But I think that might be cosplaying and some of the demonic stuff I feel like so at the elite level I am more leaning towards yes than no cuz I feel like once you have all the money, all the fame
1:41 then the thing that you're really trying to get after is legacy. So if you're really trying to get after legacy, how do you live forever? And that's where you have to start like I guess trying to figure out what is the dark arts or what is the black magic. And I feel like that's where it leads you to. Yeah, I I it's I think it's a very twofold concept where uh number one, in every tier whether you have like you're the highest elite with power and money or you're really poor, I think in every like level, there's somebody who's into that ████ right? It's just that the the people who are into that ████ at this level of both power and money have the ability to do things at grander scales that are very maybe inspirational to people at this level. They're they're able to pay for the things that >> different stupid superstitions at every level. Imagine imagine like the the lower class who doesn't have a lot of money and means who also wants to like
2:32 sacrifice a baby, but they don't have a lot of babies to sacrifice. Maybe they do it to their own family, blah blah blah. But then these people, same sentiment, same feeling, they just have power, grasp, and money so they can actually buy babies and make it happen on a different scale. So I think number that's fold number one. It's It's I think people, I'm not saying all people, I'm just saying every You don't have to be a rich elite person to have the same satanic >> But you need you need one religion for this. Sure. But I'm just saying I think that it happens in every level. So the people who are rich and powerful who can execute it, of course, are going to be on different scale. And then I think the second part is that weird societal elite thing where it's the it's the same thing as like on some mafia ████ on some on some like jumping somebody into a gang, or on some like hey, I need dirt on you. Like like a like a Like Chinese Chinese
3:22 businessman. We're going to cheat on our wives together. >> No, we're going to cheat on our wives together. We're going to We're going to do this. And it's not to say that like this is your whole life. It's say but we're going to do this and then we're going to be in this club. >> Yep. You know. >> think that's probably like some people might not even believe it, but in order to when you're at a certain point, right? Cuz the more business I do, the more people I meet, every level you're in, people will get crazier and crazier. What I mean by that is like being ethical and moral is like a privilege of the middle class because there's nothing at stake. When you get to a certain >> Or not enough at stake. >> Not enough at stake. I mean, yeah. Who's So, for example, Bard had a a really wealthy employee and the things that they deal with, meaning like some people will stalk your family, they'll
4:12 plot to do a marriage scam, and no peasant is ever dealing with that, right? So, like So, like they had to do a private investigation. They found out that the girlfriend that he was dating was actually notorious. Her whole family scams. They plot to infiltrate the family to get a part of the wealth structure and then sue you and all this ████ So, like there's just That's the problem of the wealthy. Yeah. There's so many deceit and like backstabbing and craziness. How do you keep someone honest in that level? And I think that what you touched upon is actually true. Through my research, it makes sense. You do the craziest ████ together. Sacrificing young ones or whatever. You record that and he goes, "Now, I'm not taking your word that you're going to keep it on the cool. I got evidence on you, so you better keep it >> And it's like both ways, right? Yeah.
5:03 Yeah, it is. But that's what I'm saying. When you're rich and powerful, the stakes are just crazier everywhere. You have more to lose. You also have more to ████ around with in the the darkest place. You think about like like gang stories at like the again, the lower middle class or the lower class level. People getting jumped in and like often times when you get jumped in, it's it's also a two-pronged thing. You're getting literally jumped in, beaten up, but then you also have to commit a certain level of crime with your gang. >> in some gang. >> Yeah, you got George W had to jerk off inside of a coffin or something. Yeah. You have to do a certain level of What? That makes sense to that culture, society, and community so that everybody's on the page and then they can look at you and recognize you like, "Okay, you're literally one of us now." >> And and imagine that when you have the highest level of financial means, reach, uh privacy, security,
5:53 like you're going to do this crazy ████ >> You know why? It's because like think about it, when you're in a position of leadership and you have you actually have an army, right? And like you you have your job is to take resources from other countries or else if they get too powerful, they take resources from you. So your decision as a leader is always bad decision or worse decision, right? So you have to get used to this feeling of like people are dispensable. How do you create like let's say if you're a dictator or a king, right? Same thing. How do you create a future king? You have to have someone that's not going to tremble at and at murder or whatever, right? So the best thing to do is to at a young age have them murder somebody. Like Spartans did that all the time. At your 18th graduation or or or
6:44 when you graduate the gogue which is like to get to manhood? >> Yeah, your test of man. Can you just did that? You're ripped away from your family. You're ripped away from your family at a young age and they did this so you're you don't have a family. Now your family is the state, right? And then they train you you you get repeatedly grape by boys and you get beat up and then you're tormented and then now you do it to the younger class. When you graduate, your graduation present or you have to go murder one of the slaves that they have. They have slaves and I think at 9:00 or whatever that was their curfew. It was a different group called the Helots that they took over. So then they they get them used to murdering things. And then so I'm like, what makes you think the rich and powerful people aren't training their children in a similar way where it's like it's kind of like when when
7:35 royalty marries off their daughters, right? They know their duty is to just be a ████ baby maker and power play pawn. So, what makes you think they're not doing that today? Or like princesses or or or or our daughters of rich parents of of very like billionaire class, they're like, "Okay, uh we need to make this power play. You're going to go marry him." They don't love each other. It doesn't ████ matter. But I feel like how is that different? You watch movies of royal times and then it's like what makes people think that doesn't happen today? And and that's that's a weird it's it's good that you called it a power play because it's that play in that moment for a reason, right? It's like um it's like going through hazing for like a fraternity or a club. Like when you have to like or or or boot camp. Or or fornicate just Yeah, fornicate just too. The experience of what you're going through in that most heavily testament
8:25 and enduring moment is not the the rest of your life, but it's know it's giving you this like experience and the people that you're going through it with and the people who are making go through it this understanding that like, "Hey, if you went through this, all the worst that's to come or all the whatever that's to come means nothing compared." We have to give you the craziest version. So, you put the petri dish and science experiment of like any possible thing that can happen. Like imagine nobody for Jabberwockies now. >> Especially for the rich and the wealthy and powerful, you give them the the literally human experience of anything that can happen. The worst thing that can happen will happen. Then you take that one singular thing and you go, "Okay, this is the test for everyone." You know, like it's I'm just saying it's possible by human psychology is all.
9:17 In history too, yeah. Do you guys think then so like let's say if we bring a real life example like let's say Jeffrey Epstein, right? You think it's going to you think he is more so the test giver or do you think people are are accustomed to now a certain thing? So, now he is supplying the rest of it cuz now you have this habit. He yeah, he's probably like the CVS for COVID test. They're probably like, "Oh, you want to be You go there." Just go there. Get it done over there. If he's I mean, if he's so pervasive in this space, there's no way it's any other thing but the second one. Cuz everyone has pictures of >> Everyone. Everyone, yeah. >> But no one's asking who's behind him. That's That's like That's like saying Diddy Diddy's a fed, right? Like >> the first one happens, then the rest of it falls out of it. So, I don't think we'll ever get that. Like everyone's expecting that, "Oh, we'll get a picture of Bill Clinton like
10:08 Yeah. I don't think any of that's ever [clears throat] going to happen. And and the dynamic works on both sides, too. It's not just the person who is like giving it, right? It's It's also the person who desires to be a part of that club. I remember my first time or one of my first times teaching internationally, like getting booked solo to go teach, I was like, "Oh my god, I totally want to be a part of the circuit. This is like a goal of mine." Even though I have no ████ idea what it is cuz few people have done it before me. And then I show up I was I was in Russia, and then they They give you very loose information, and suddenly they're like, "All right, you're going to be put on a train to go to this city to go teach at this time." And I'm like, "Okay." And they put me on this train, and I didn't know at the time Russia to literally St. Petersburg area, they have like their their train cars have like four beds in them, right? And so, I'm put in this train, and then it's like a 9-hour train ride overnight, and then three giant random
10:59 Russian dudes are in there with me. Damn. >> And we're just supposed to just I'm just sleeping with you guys tonight. And I've never Like this is my third time being overseas in life, and I'm like, "What the heck?" And then they And then my organizer great organizer, by the way, she was just like, "Oh, this person and this person and this person did this." And I'm the young guy coming into this scene, and I'm hearing these people who have who have establish more established and have done this exact experience before me, and suddenly that puts me at ease, and I go, "I should totally enjoy this." It like completely changes my psyche on the experience. >> And then you go But I don't talk about it. I don't talk about it unless it's Patreon. Sign up for our Patreon. Can't you see though how it could get to that point where you're like in order to compete and survive and like it could also be like training where like you have to
11:49 desensitize. So then now they're making you do the grossest stuff. Like you ain't gay but now you sucking all this dick. You ain't you know you're not a killer but now you got to just kill people and then like it gets crazier and crazier and crazier. Yeah. And if you don't want it enough you're out and then they'll kill the rest of your career. >> Right. And then you hear about that. So then you're like ████ well I I don't know if I want it but I'm going to go for it. >> Yeah. What's crazy is Bohemian Grove is like in our backyard but we don't know much about it either. >> That's facts. And then that weird ritual that they do. They like praise like this goat thing and like people were saying it's like ball. Which is like this >> The devil. devil yeah. The funniest thing is like and I'm I'm going to be completely hypocrite on this ████ and sound like a terrible human being in society but think about like the conceptual ritual or the experience of what Bohemian Grove is and you know
12:39 I'm not trying to compare this exactly but then think about like Sleep No More theater shows. Are you guys familiar with that? >> Mhm. Sleep No More was it was huge. >> you walk through? Yeah. And so they give you these masks these like ████ bird like >> Oh oh those ones. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. type things right? You wear it and you go through and then it's your choose your own adventure. It's quiet you don't speak. They take away your cell phones. You go to whatever rooms you figure out the story and things are just darker mature adult whatever and then you're you walking you're like this is so sick. And it's like probably predicated and built off of that concept of >> dark elitist invite only ritualistic blah blah exactly. >> And I'm not again I'm not comparing I'm not I'm not hating. I love the shows. >> about actual thing for regular people or are you talking about like the Hollywood swinger party?
13:29 >> I'm just talking about like if you can love it in one capacity, then another one is it's very confusing on like what makes something right and wrong. Mine is like maybe the sacrificing of a human at the very end, but at the same time if if it was a theater show and they didn't actually kill somebody in in in the show they were sacrificing a human and it was done with great music, I might still want to watch. Does that make me a bad person? Like it's there's some weird dark twisted thing that plays to like what everybody still wants to or is willing to accept and appreciate. >> Well, it's it's like American Psycho. Like we all think that movie's tight, but then like it's kind of ████ up, too. And then it's kind of about us as well. >> And it probably built a lot of psychos who killed a lot of people afterwards. >> Well, it also didn't build them. It just reflected them. That's just like like having a bounce board to like show people what these people >> They're already psycho, yeah. >> Exactly. But imagine if psycho has tons of money, power, protection, and they
14:20 can do whatever they want. That's That's the ending. That I think is just the truth of That's the ambiguity of the ending, where you don't know if they're really helping him cover it up or if it never happened. >> And whether they're doing these rituals as a troll or a fad or a style, it's still got demonic origins origins because what else is Like what else is driving that energy, you know? Like someone who enjoys and revels in that ████ that's all demonic ████ >> And what else would make people more uncomfortable to share with their friends? Like if I went through something like that, it'd be so hard to tell like, "Oh, yeah, I'm going to tell Ryan and Anthony about this this weekend." Are you ████ kidding me? You know what I mean? Like like that's not easy to talk about. Like that's crazy ████ Anthony could probably talk about it easier, though. >> He probably make fun of you and blame you for doing going through it. >> be like, "Can you invite me next time?" >> [laughter] >> Please. No, seriously. No. At Dude, at the end of the day, it's all
15:10 there's a ████ demonic force at the at the core of it, man. Yeah. We need a Jesus or something. >> TFTI.
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