0:00 that's what I see from gen Z and younger is like it's like why be a part of this whole system because the benefits don't seem that great I I've heard like young kids say stuff like that but I have a hard time believing that they actually know because I think they're not smart enough to think that deeply so what I think is [Music] hey welcome back everybody to another amazing episode of the careful boys and the boys are back in town Joe take it away alright so I saw this video and I probably could play it but we're not going to get caught by the algorithm so I'm going to try to brief no cursing recall what it is but the whole point is right so I've been noticing this thing this this like when I opened up joombie I was um going through this hiring phase right and I
0:50 thought it was just the Hawaii thing where like I had about 50 people apply and I said come on down to the interview in about half didn't show up so they they applied for the job they wanted the job and half of them didn't even show up to the interview and I was like this is ████ weird so you thought it was a spirit of Aloha I thought it was I thought it was Island time it is notorious Surfer Dudes like yo man the when the waves are good the waves are good I'm not coming to work you know and then um I was asking my friends in LA and everywhere else and they're like no this is a thing like this is a whole thing like there's a lot of gen Z and younger that's just like you know I'm just gonna work like just enough or maybe I don't even really want this job that bad right and then um I just watched this video Theo Vaughn posted it we had this he had this dude saying that there's like four million
1:42 like eligible working age males from like 20 to 45. that are just choosing to be unemployed they're not collecting unemployment they're not just they're just choosing not to work and so I I was like I guess this is happening all over the place because I also watched another video about this is happening in China too and it's called the Let It Rock movement where a lot of the youth there are just like ████ it we're not gonna work because we see what happened to our parents and it's like what's the point after you work you just like get forced to retire and then you get used by the state and then you die so there's this sentiment just seems to be like common amongst gen Z and I've seen this within family members within people that I know their family like
2:32 there's just guys that just chill and they just choose not to do anything so they live with their folks or whatever yeah until they're like lit mid to late 20s and maybe they might help contribute like find online jobs and then like they'll pitch into the house so they're not like completely just sitting home doing nothing but they're just not they don't have a career they're not joining the rat race they're not joining the rat race they're not doing things like that and so that got me to think about like why and and maybe I don't know we have a huge male audience too and I'm like is everyone working how do they survive though like what about food or like they just don't buy things and they just stay at home they don't have to pay for Mom and Dad's fridge is always full yeah that's true well the people that I know yeah um they're living at home mid to late 20s and they might help out their parents
3:24 they have a home-based business so they're helping out their parents or like let's say they're contributing like or like they might be doing something online like selling things and then they'll like help pay the rent that way so like they're doing stuff you know what I mean like but I feel like I could almost relate like if I had parents that I you know what I mean that maybe they did really really well for themselves and I was just always provided for you know what I mean like I guess that could make sense my parents were always as broke as ████ so that's why I always ended up having to work hard but I could also imagine if my parents weren't broken but how many parents did really well for themselves to have 4 million or whatever you know for four million people to sit yeah I don't think it's all wealthy I think it's like people that live minimal so like so like like the people that I
4:17 know they're not wealthy they're just like you know you're just they it seems like they you know when you're in high school you live at home right you just stay that lifestyle but then now you're like mid-20s and you're contributing to the family in some form you might be paying partial rent you might be kicking up money you might be contributing to the groceries but you're not making thousands a month yeah you're just still living like a high school student I mean if you can survive but then this has happened well I didn't know that it was happening to guys all the way up until 45 years old I didn't know that what is what are what do they occupy their time with then that's a good question that's I think that's what everyone's wondering because it's like everywhere I don't know if maybe it's just my maybe just completely anecdotal but whenever I go to any store any store any restaurant or like uh some a place
5:09 that's like not desirable to be worked at like say like a Jamba Juice or something there's always like under always under staff they're always like everything's like I see posts everywhere now yeah yeah everywhere all positions dude and they're just like just walking walk in um uh job interviews whatever you want like on the side so it's like I feel like everywhere they're just struggling to get people that maybe they just don't want to work these jobs maybe they think it's like beneath them or something dude during covid they were giving like 200 300 bonuses for people to join like Taco Bell yeah and like they were signing bonuses whatever um at least I can only speak for the people that maybe are working that I've had conversations with they like they're like students or
5:59 they're like people that just like the balance because when when I when I started working you know I just needed money because I was alone at like no parents at like 20 something and at that age I was like I need to pay rent I gotta do this I need enough money I'm gonna work two jobs whatever but if you don't have to do that then their mentality is more like oh I'll just make a couple hundred so I can go out and that's it do you think it's just a comfort thing for a lot of people they just they're comfortable in what they do their routine they make go to work for like a couple hours they come back and they just chill at the house or do you think it's like a mix of extremism like a Stick it to the Man because they're all also like Jaded by the system and truly like I think that's like an excuse people use I don't think that's real because I actually think it could be Mass depression yeah that four million number is probably that but then the
6:50 people that believe more in a work-life balance stuff I think they don't need it so like so think that I choose it but but they're also like capable or have a career before and just shows like yeah like imagine you're a college student imagine you're an unemployed college degree person right like you want a job that's like respectable corporate whatever you're not gonna go for a blue collar job you're like I had to do that because when I graduated it was during the recession so then I had a degree but I went straight into shipping because I couldn't find a job that you can't ████ have a Humanities degree and then work there's not much jobs for that or like a sociology degree or whatever I had a psychology degree there's not many jobs with a bachelor's you can get with a psychology degree and then so all these people who believe that maybe they
7:41 should have a higher pay because of what they had they don't want these jobs that are available so now we have a lot of jobs that are like hey Starbucks is open whatever's open right but now you have all these people that feel overqualified that's never worked a day in their life that think that they should go work for Google or whatever well they also well plus a lot of those tech jobs are a ████ joke I mean did we not just see that with Twitter Elon fired half of them and Twitter's working totally fine everyone's like Twitter's dead like next Monday Twitter is completely dead you'll see and then like cut a lot of fat out of that yeah and then you guys saw that Tick Tock I'm sure of like that chick who worked at Twitter and she's like getting my wine from like you know I'm having a wine party up here and she's like okay I have meetings in the afternoon it's like oh it's like the biggest eye roll ever of like a a Silicon Valley job quote unquote
8:32 um but then yeah like Joe's talking about I think social media has helped to make a lot of these jobs look even more undesirable like there's this like beneath me quality to a lot of that ████ like you were talking about Nick like Jamba Juice not desirable right but why you're it's a you're you're working that's respectable yeah but uh those things have been separated from each other it's like the fact that you're working and the fact that that's honorable has been separated from each other because it's like oh no that's a dumpster job that's a s█████ I don't want a basic job exactly and then and then couple that with like social media like remember that guy who's on The Cosby Show and they they caught him like they caught him you're bagging groceries at Trader Joe's yeah yeah that was really messed up making fun of him and ████ and so he had to quit and it's like dude that like he's working for his family that's ████ up now like that's beneath you no like is that really what's going on I think that's the biggest issue is that uh there's like normal
9:24 jobs like working class jobs that no one wants because they feel like it's socially wrong and you're like a loser you're a loser but then I'm like we need we need people to do all these jobs because they're like the normal jobs that people need to work in order for the society to function we need guys to ████ rig the lines we need guys to work the stewards we need guys to like we need all that ████ like what started that though like what started everybody calling snobbery and classes social media dude there's a huge amount of classes Asian parents and I think covet too I think it's like a big Whirlwind of like no one's working and they're like okay I can get used to this and then social everyone's on their phone on social media and so now that messaging is spread faster than ever because I wonder if kids today or at least younger people still see that like because when I was like 18 19 I worked at the mall
10:16 everybody was really cool and there was no feeling of like we're losers yeah and people that were at the mall that were just customers never look looked at anybody like oh you work at Finish Line what a loser like yeah it was cool like it was different if you're 18 or 19 and you're working it's like oh you're a go-getter like regardless of your job if you're like 35 or 40 and you're like you know bagging groceries you know I can understand that the world we live in will look at that and be like hey you're kind of a loser you didn't do ████ for the last life I mean we we still had we had co-workers that were that old and we had people at Starbucks that were in their 30s and the cool thing about them was wow they must be getting tons of benefits by now yeah he bought an S2000 with saving up like there was I don't I don't know if kids today still think like I have no idea but we all thought yeah I think John butchers is just looking for 18 or 19 year olds yeah they're just nowhere to be found but yeah I even think like a
11:07 lot of the 18 19 year olds nowadays like they don't work like a lot of like a lot of the students that come in our I get surprised when I see that some people don't even want to drive oh bro that's a whole conversation you know that's crazy they're like I want to get a license people drive me around we have this 16 year old at the gym and he goes telling me he goes I got my license I'm one of the only kids in my school that have a license that are my age like no but I kind of get it because they could Uber right but then also that should cost money if you can think like it's like why would I want to add 500 a month like I think people are questioning consumerism and I think when you question the when because younger kids now they see like the dark side of materialism consumerism and capitalism right it's like you work work work and you buy all this ████ for what because they probably saw their parents go into debt spiraling just buying all this ████ so they see that and they're probably like well I don't want to ████ do
11:58 that why would I want to do that and now there's this whole movement on minimalism and all these other things and living below tiny houses tiny houses whatever right so it might be just all these different things just questioning like the normal middle class keeping up with the Joneses lifestyle working for a corporation doing the nine to five and also there's this whole movement of like oh pursue your dreams your work should be like be your place of happiness and motivation and all that and it's like what about just normal jobs of like working class men or whatever and I feel like those jobs disappeared because also a lot of people don't want them or they can't or they want to move away like whenever a society gets Rich they go what do they do like they want to send their kids off to college right even Working Class People want to send their
12:48 kids off to college and then they they want them to become White Collar they don't want them working in like construction and stuff just like them so I think as as this moves forward then it's like who's gonna do those jobs do you think we're this is just like a situation of like back in my day because like that's what I feel like it's a little bit of that because I think generationally right like like you look at how our parents grow up or what their story was to come to this country or what the jobs that they used to do versus like what we do now our generation you have you have kids I think everyone's just getting a little softer and there's less things to worry about me well I think one one is the survival aspect right like most of the Immigrant mentality is I just need to ████ eat because I couldn't eat at home or whatever right so then now you
13:38 have abundance that's the second stage now you need meaning and purpose and work so that's our that's our generation that's our generation because we were just talking about I don't want to be a doctor I want to do something that I like an art or whatever that I care about not because I'm forced to be a doctor to pay for my bills or whatever it is right that's the millennial version right it is the millennial and then maybe the next stage is what's the point of it all anyway what's the point of doing all this ████ buying all this ████ why like why even start a family like I'm gonna set my kids up to be in the system where they're gonna be economic slaves like what's the point and I think that's what I see from gen Z and younger is like it's like why be a part of this whole system because the benefits don't seem that great I I've heard like young kids say stuff like
14:29 that but I have a hard time believing that they actually know because I think they're not smart enough to think that deeply so what I think you kind of have to be there because you have to you have to have been through some ████ to really know what everything is what that means if you haven't been through some ████ it's just big vocabulary words right so I'm like I hear like some young kids say stuff like that but what it feels like to me and I could be completely wrong it feels like they're really just depressed and this is the messaging that fits how they feel because in all of biology organisms Thrive when there's growth in their life and stability yeah so regardless if you're a postman that makes your rounds or if you're a billionaire but if each day you can see yourself stacking chips that's when the organism is the most thriving so for a fact that people that are like I'm just
15:19 not gonna do anything that to me is like oh this organism is not good it's going against your human nature yeah you're going against your DNA so you're just now regurgitating words to explain their behavior but I actually think you're not really about this yeah because you'll find growth somewhere else I think that's that's why I see that as an excuse too I'm like you're just trying to find the narrative that justifies how lazy you are or some ████ I was in a a lift last night not Uber um and this this chick was driving and she was telling me about how she just feels like she can't keep up because she's paying three G's a month for like 1400 square feet you know in like California and the gas just constantly goes up and you know the even the amount that she gets for ride sharing is going down and there's days where she doesn't
16:10 make any ████ money and then there's maybe one random day where she makes like a decent amount of money that catches her up but she always feels like she's on that thin line and that's I think what's going on with a lot of people too it's like so she's working there's somebody sitting at home not working and they're both basically seeing the same thing which is at the end of the day where is my progress like where where really is it I'm like I lose all my money every month anyway because the cost of living is so ████ high and look at you know the rate of inflation with the rate of wages in America is a ████ joke right like we can't even catch up it used to be you know you could have a fan family so like you know Bart and Geo um Bart could just support the family like with his job but now it's got to be both people working for something at the same time because you know we're not represented right like the system's not
17:01 for us it's it's for yeah I emphasize working working class families because back in the day working class families you could have a a single earner like the father who worked at the factory and they were able to carve out a little decent living I could buy a house exactly and now like a working class family might have to become roommates with another working class family and jam-packed that house exactly so they can pay the rent in La which is now the average Inc house is is gonna cost eight hundred thousand dollars at five percent dude if yeah give me a break they're pricing everybody out yeah so and let's say you're you're a working class family and you're making 30 to 50 000 a year how the ████ are you gonna
17:51 afford a house payment let alone a car payment and then like it just doesn't make the math doesn't make anything you're a rent slave you're a wage exactly so I can totally see why the youth seeing that and going what's the point what's the ████ point and then so maybe I'll just rent a room and and because that's affordable maybe I can make a thousand bucks a month because that's affordable and then I can just ride a bike everywhere and then I won't get a girlfriend and a family because that's expensive and then now everything is like because because not it's not just happening in the States this is happening everywhere in first First World countries because even in Japan like the the birth rate is low the marriage rate all that stuff is low because everyone has the same mentality of like I'm just gonna work till I die what's the point dude I was listening to
18:41 Jeff Bezos recently and he was saying he was saying um he's like yeah you know I think the economy is about to get pretty bad so like families out there you should probably start saving up all right see ya so tell that to the chick in the in the lift yesterday you know like hey these people can't relate at all they have no ████ idea but that s███'s still industrious though she's out driving and having a job she's different than the person that's staying at home well you know why she's doing it she's doing it for her family that's the tip she's doing it for the most Primal reason that everyone out there I think is doing it in this family preservation that's why I believe that survival gets people to go oh I need to work right but then right the people that don't they don't need to is what I'm saying so that means it's got to get worse before you can get better I think I mean that's historically what they say is that that's when the you know the best
19:31 civilizations are born but I still think like that's why I give it up to the previous generation for the fact that like there was no social media so nobody was there to hear your grievances all you could do is this yeah and that's yeah nobody gives a ████ ████ how you feel it was but also when you when you worked and you saved your money you saw more of it at the end of the day that's true they weren't printing your money out of existence yes they were moving off of the gold standard slowly turning up the heat on the Frog right but but it was at least you could make a living for yourself a carve out a living for yourself but I would argue that that was Golden Age America after World War II I would say previous to that Great Depression like eras of just indentured servitude and just people coming in and working and they don't have anything that's been a pretty big part of the history here and we're I
20:21 think we're going back to that where people are just working and working and they're just debt slaves so like I can see why it's at this point where hey if I can eat food and sleep in a comfortable bed I'm just gonna be on my phone all day 100 yeah and I get that I really get that mentality because dopamine I have a lot of fun in my work but not everyone can have the same I like like work like I don't know if I can have that same fun doing the normal labor jobs that you can't romanticize you can't romanticize that ████ it's just normal honest work that's all it is so it's like but at least you could at least when you're doing the normalized work before right you're saving up enough to afford a home but now they're pricing you out of the
21:11 market so bad you have to compete with other countries even to get a house now you can't even just they they ████ up our system so much that you you can't have faith in it at all so you're not what are you working towards it's like every every step you take towards forwards you're on an escalator moving backwards and people and this is it's showing up now in the real world and I think the one thing that we didn't talk about that's like affecting men specifically is only fans like that ████ I think ruins and pornography yeah like for real I agree punchline no that ████ is I think that's for real because like especially with men like there's all these studies coming out about how like whenever you jerk off like sexual dopamine release is like way stronger than anything else like any other dopamine release you get so like these guys could just watch porn beat off get their hit and be like Oh I'm good for another like 15-20 minutes and then they're back on it again start
22:02 beating their dicks and they that was me in college I couldn't get any homework done because I kept jacking off and going to sleep and that ████ with your reward system how you I do think we have a lot of misplaced dopamine yeah these days because they like don't talk like the hard honest word you're supposed to get the dopamine from the actual work do a good day's work like like yeah actual like going oh ████ I was very productive epic regardless of what the subject matter is I did this much I get a dopamine hit but I think now it's like everything has to be so concentrated and it has to be like am Alex hermosi dropped some ████ bars on me and I'm like whoa crazy I didn't get more I didn't get more of that first back then that amount of dopamine was just like eight hours of heart whether it's cutting a tree or some ████ like that but all of our dopamine is misplaced everywhere I think so and it's so hard to come back from that dude especially with social media dude like with the tick like The Tick Tock algorithm was so
22:53 good I totally understand why people are just like constant because it's it's you're just watching everything you see all this new funny stuff on Tick Tock constantly and it never stops like my wife sometimes I'm like before bed I'm like just five more minutes yeah yeah and then I go oh ████ is an hour oh ████ bro I do understand what you're saying though it's it is the we are seeing the effects of the economy developing obtusly where it's like oh ████ money went this way work didn't yeah and that's what we get for voting that way that's exactly it oh yeah yeah exactly and continuing no people a little bit more sad now after this hey look people wonder why I'm in crypto but this is exactly why I don't believe in our system period I'm down to go with a system where we're still working out the
23:44 Kinks and ████ and yes there's tons of scams in that in the system just like our system but at least there's an end goal in mind which is sovereignty right actually having your money work for you hopefully at some point gets it ████ worked out right in our lifetime please yeah oh God please no but then and real quick to just wrap up my story with the Lyft driver so as she dropped me off it was it was such a great conversation she was really awesome but then she's like um you know like it'd be awesome if you tip me because all the tips just go directly towards me and I was like oh I don't tip [Laughter] foreign
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