0:00 All right. So, talking about cheating, right? >> Is it weird if two people they used to date, right? Now, they don't date anymore and then the guy is dating going to be married to now a friend of the person that he used to date. >> Uh-huh. >> And now they're effectively married, right? And the guy still hangs out with the ex, >> but he met her through the X. >> He met the wife through the X. Yes. Yes. the the the ex and the wife are friends. >> Are they white? One of them. Cuz if they're white, I think it's okay. If they're not white, that's weird. >> Oh, so the both women are still cordial with they're cool with each other. >> I don't think they're as cool anymore cuz it's weird. In my opinion, it's weird. >> Oh, yeah. So, it's not as close as close. They probably used to be better
0:50 friends cuz they had to check to be like, "Oh, is this cool if I you guys aren't dating anymore? I kind of like him, you know, like can I is this cool?" But now they're they're way past that cuz they're getting married. So they've surpassed what the previous two had. Right. >> Is that weird? >> I think well to me that's I asked if what the race was because I feel like for Asians there's just stronger codes. >> Yeah. That you don't. So and then but then for white people it's like ah ████ you ████ me. ████ ████ ████ ████ whatever. And then later, you know, like later you find like like if this wasn't a personal story, I could totally see like in a longitudinal study where he met his wife through this girl, but then they still hang out, then he divorces his wife, ends up marrying the original girl. I've totally seen stuff like that play out, >> but I feel like that's less in Asian.
1:40 >> Yeah. wife wife friend groups. They all they all they all Eskimos Eskimo brothers. They all they all they all have sex with each other. >> The caveat is the the guy and the old ex are like they're like best friends supposedly. >> Best friends. They say they're best friends. >> Then the next thing you have to do is do a testosterone test. What's his tea level at? If it's low like mine, it's okay to have girl best [laughter] friends. But if he's a high tea individual, it's like why the ████ do you have a girl best friend? That's so weird. >> That's true. >> Girl, wow. >> Well, don't you have a girl best friend? >> Yeah, kind. Yeah, kind of. >> Is it Bonos or >> Yeah, but I mean it's like >> But you also have Aerys >> who's like a high tea best friend. >> Yeah, I guess so. But I don't have a history with Bonos like that at all. >> It's always been platonic. >> Yeah, always. >> Yeah. See, this is extra weird. >> This is This is weird cuz they used to
2:30 date >> been inside each other. >> Yeah. For like a long time. >> I don't think I could be a best friend with an ex. best friend with your ex like that is really unique >> cuz it I think it's got like more like ex-wife vibes >> where you could keep things chill and you have history but I mean yeah I mean I don't know you know you know how you be like my partner's my best friend I know that's true but if they're not your partner anymore >> they're not really your best friend >> they're not the best friend yeah it should be the the wife now >> and I think because people change so you're a new person so when you become a new person how can this new person be best friends with that old person. You know what I mean? It's almost like when you're a kid, you ████ love McDonald's because you're ████ ████ [laughter] And then now when you're this new person with elevated taste, that's your new favorite burger.
3:20 You're not going to be like >> Burger King. >> Yeah. But you're not [laughter] but you're not going to be like, "Yeah, McDonald's is still my favorite. It's still my favorite." >> You're like, "No, McDonald's is not is no longer my favorite. It's nostalgic." You know, >> he doesn't he doesn't agree with your analogy. This whole couch doesn't agree with it. But it's okay. >> You don't agree with it. >> McDonald's. I just say that was objectively. I understand what you're saying. It's just not a very good >> It's nostalgic. It's not your best burger. Now, >> as soon as he said McDonald's, my ████ I started salivating and I was like, I want my I want I was >> Joe was just like, I want lunch now. [laughter] >> So, you don't agree that the the the enjoyment is the nostalgia? >> That's proof that it doesn't work because you say you mentioned the X and now you want to ████ it. That's what I mean. >> It doesn't work. possible that that relationship is actually better without the ████ like if for the for the two people to claim they're best friends implies that
4:11 like not ████ makes them function better. >> Well, the thing is I I can have female friends but the relationship is just doesn't get as close as a guy friend. So I think girl like female friends for me at least it's a different kind of category. It feels like a sister brotherhood >> because they don't understand. Huh. >> No they want to understand too much where guy friendships are more easier. >> Yeah. >> It's just I can just relax. Like I don't got to get so ████ deep all the time or like I don't know. It's just different. >> Yeah. >> It is a different dynamic. Right. And then so having a girl best friend, if I'm not chatty and deep every single time, I don't I don't know. It's like the same ████ And then if I like to do hella activities and a lot of girls
5:02 don't like those activities, it's just the I don't I don't spend enough time to have a deep friendship like that. >> So what about in this case that he that he's painting out like uh >> that's why I don't the the thing is this it's hard for me to relate to have a close best female friend because I have female friends. >> Yeah. But then I they I wouldn't consider them a best friend. >> I can't imagine being best friends with someone I've had sex with though. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think once you have sex, you cross a threshold. That's like saying like if you had a dog and you ████ it. It's like that dog is still my pet. It's like, no, that's not your pet anymore. You ████ it. [laughter] >> What? >> It's your partner now. >> You lost me. You lost me. >> McDonald's. NOT A DOG. COME ON. YOU KNOW WHAT I mean? If you had a dog, he's your pet, right? >> Objectively, McDonald's is better than that. >> No, objectively that's your pet. But
5:53 then if you ████ the dog, you're in jail. [laughter] >> Then you can't call it your pet anymore. You're you pass the threshold. You guys are way closer than you've ever been. >> No, now the dog is the plaintiff. [laughter] >> Now the dog was a victim. [laughter] >> Cross the threshold, man. >> You're now the defendant in this situation. >> You can't go back. You guys look at each other differently. You can't go back. >> I think it's a different threshold you cross. Yeah. But yes, >> I mean I I can't imagine it. I've I don't I have very rarely seen it done. But if someone's there to convince me, no, this is my best friend. How can I disprove it? >> I think anomalies exist. Maybe you're right. White people could do this easier. >> I think whites have that talent for sure because they because they've been represented so well in crazy romance movies. So they know it's all possible.
6:44 And I think there is uh so code and more I guess logic that sometimes are on opposite sides of the spectrum. So if they can reason a way for it to make sense then it can make sense. But I but Asians are so coddriven they don't even need to explore. It's like no >> I don't ████ my dog so that's it. I eat that. [laughter] But then white people, you'll see them making out with their dog and it's because it's because of this or whatever. This is why I make out with my golden retriever and you're like, "Okay, I guess that makes sense for you." But I just would never make out with my golden retriever. Do you believe that it's a best friendship? Do you guys do believe it? >> I have female friends, too. Like I get what you That's why I don't get it. Like to me, I'm like this doesn't make any sense to me. Like the being one being two things. One, being best friends with
7:36 a girl is a little weird cuz I'm like the relationship dynamics, they just like like me and my guy friends, we talk about different things. We have like similar interests and hobbies, you know what I mean? So, it's like it's a different dynamic. And then the other part like being best friends with your ex, that's also really weird. That is weird. He got no friends. Someone that you're previously sexually attracted to >> to now revert back. >> Yeah. >> Unless they gain like 300 lb. Well, it's isn't it also a thing where like after you've broken up with someone, right? If you continue to keep them close in your life, you that's your entrylevel baggage for the next person to reject you. >> It sets you up for failure, I think, with the new relationship. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Cuz it's like, yo, cuz they're like, what's going on with that? >> Caveat, those two are already friends. So, it's like they already have a relationship. >> That's where it makes it really complicated. Yeah.
8:26 >> I don't know how you navigate that. >> Did it break up the friend group? Cuz usually when stuff like this happens, it breaks up the friend group. >> No, they're all still friends. But but it's a little weird. It is a little weird. >> Or it could break up the friend group for like very short period of time. >> I'll tell you how weird this is. This is so weird. Imagine you're like ████ your dog. No, no, no, no, [laughter] no, no, no. Let's keep it Let's keep it homo sapien. Okay. >> Okay. [snorts] >> Imagine you're 14 >> and you have and you have a groomer. >> Oh my god. >> He's not grooming you anymore. your new groomer finds [laughter] out you're best friends with your old groomer, don't you think the new groomer is still going to be like, "WHY THE ████ YOU TALKING TO HIM FOR?" WELL, NO. NO, but in this scenario, [laughter] the new >> Don't even work with the groomer scenario. >> In this new scenario, the the new groomer has to also be
9:16 friends with the old groomer. >> Yeah, that's right. Why are the groomers friends? >> The groomers have to be friends with each other [laughter] scenario. In this scenario, am I a dog? >> No. Homo sapien. I said, >> "Okay." Okay. >> Even groomer. It wouldn't even fly in the groomer world. Groomer code says no. >> It's the pre-existing friendship that makes it's pre-existing, so it makes it complicated. Yeah. >> It's a pre-existing friendship that makes it complicated. It's because someone chose to date someone after they already had a relationship. That's where it got ████ in the first place, I think. >> But I I feel like ████ like this happens in small town places or like places where you just don't have many options. But if you're in ████ New York or LA, what the ████ are you doing? >> That's very true. >> If you're small town, I feel like those rules are different. >> Yeah. >> Pick of the litter, dude. >> Also, you guys believe in like
10:06 soulmates, like non non-romantic soul mates. >> I was trying to say yes, but my neck just said no. [laughter] >> I was like, no. >> What are you talking about? Like just like best friends. So like what if in that situation right the original the ex the ex and the guy what if they were like genuinely just great chemistry good connection so because of that they got confused and thought maybe we should date and that ████ it up and really like you said their actual their actual connection is honestly just good friends. >> Yeah. I'm not ruling that out cuz like it's possible that your relationship is better now you just don't ████ >> so versus defining her as an ex. It's like defining her as like, "Oh, that that was your best friend and then you guys ████ up and ████ around, but like that wasn't right." >> Every time they talked about sex, it's
10:56 makes them want to throw up because it was such a weird face that they really do value their friendship. I can kind of see that cuz then they're like, "Oh, yeah, that was so weird. What we have now is way better." >> Yeah, but why the ████ are you disrespecting your current wife by sharing that attention with another woman? >> What if you hide it though? What if you guys just hang out? You don't tell your wife >> cuz you know it bothers her a little bit. >> I just don't have I don't get it. Like I All of my deep friendships with women are family members. >> So you marry all of them? So you got to marry her first. Is that what you're saying, Joe? >> No, I'm saying like [laughter] >> you got to marry her first. >> That's really That's really sick, dude. [laughter] >> I have my wife. Okay. Okay. Okay, I have
11:46 my wife list of >> and [laughter] like I'd say the the second most like most I speak to girls is my cousins and then my nieces. >> Those are family members. Yeah. >> And then um that's very fulfilling. And then I have acquaintances. >> What is this right now? [laughter] >> I have friends wives. I have friends wives that I send a meme to once every six months. >> Okay. >> Or whatever. >> Friends, wives you send memes to. [laughter] I just really don't understand how someone can have a girl best friend that they ████ talk to all the To me, a best friend is someone like you're ████ talking on a weekly >> and then like you're catching up, you're
12:37 hanging out and you can hang out with your best friend outside of the relationship with your wife, which is ████ weird. This is where I'm just like, why if you you got a lot of time, bro? Like I barely have time to hang with my guy friendss. Why the ████ am I going to hang out with a girl? >> Well, well, to be I agree with you, by the way, Joe, but in this instance, his best friend is a girl and not a guy. >> HE DON'T GOT GUY. HE GAY. [laughter] NO, it's just >> that's the real problem. >> But it's just so No, it's just so weird from no so many ways that you examine it cuz like let's say like like best friends have best friend duties, right? So like let's say like um someone just feels crazy lonely or whatever and they're like, "Yo, I just need someone to hang." Like Anthony would fly across to New York to go hang with Mike if he's like in, I don't know, some dark place.
13:29 It would be weird for a guy to leave their wife. Oh, my best friend's in a dark place right now. I got to go fly to New York and spend like 3 days with them and it's a girl. It's just so like how you dissect it >> is just so weird. >> You know why is because you can make them feel better by ████ them, but you you don't really want to. You you can't do that for a guy even though you can. >> Well said. He's right and well said. >> But if the guy's gay, all this kind of doesn't matter. >> Oh, that's true. >> I still go back to the groom's test. If it passes the grooms test, which it doesn't, then >> the groomers test. That's different. >> Groomer. >> Oh, the double groomer where the groomers are are friends with each [laughter] other. Let us know in the comments what you think of um what you think of Peter's situation that he just detailed out to
14:19 us. Uh do you agree more with Joe that the guy's gay? [laughter] Do you agree more with Bart on that it's basically like two groomers regrooming? Um, and tell us in the comments if you have an experience or a situation that's anything similar to this, so we can criticize
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