0:00 thank you [Music] welcome back to careful boys we are careful boys today we have Colleen Kaylee Kaylee Colleen Did you guys know that she has the same name as Colleen Ballinger no way spelled the same way differently you do so please if you if Google could associate those two things please just started my entire identity is also hers and hers is mine uh you're one of the same so you are in fact true or false you are a director yes true or false where are you leading me true or false your Colleen Ballinger this is a deposition the blonde one in the the brunette one
0:51 she's dark energy she's light energy yeah that's good that's good framed in this way yeah no um think about the movie business right now what's your what's your what's your Barbie's trash oh oh you watch it get straight to the floor did you watch it yeah and you didn't like it no what what don't you like about it did you see it go oh femus in this yeah you didn't like it because I see me huh yeah dude no it wasn't even a thought she's like what the ████ is that it's just like everything because we were talking about this a little bit um you think it's like pure satire and they're making fun of old Collywood I think that they the humor didn't resonate that well and I think it's just everything about woke Hollywood encompassed in one so you thought it's real ████ yeah I think they missed a mark on the humor I think it's
1:42 too cringy for it to be like have like a an intellectual kind of way of doing it uh if that was too cringy to have an actual intellectual point no because you're not gonna get that with Barbie I don't expect that with Barbie um but there's a way to do a certain satire about woke Hollywood without it being so on the nose I don't think it was a complete satire when I think it was first of all I love absurdish ████ so it was like a ████ three hour absurdist movie I love absurdist yeah okay so I like that part I also liked how it it when it took itself seriously like in a couple of moments it also took the other side of it too and I thought that that was interesting um when it went girl power yay girl power and then it went guy power ████
2:32 yeah guy power but it's just so funny how like the very thing is like Barbie world has to be only women and then as soon as the men take over it's just like the dichotomy of like it only be one way or in another yeah it's just I mean but isn't that that's what we're at right now that Barbie anyway because Barbie's kind of like one way already like that's what I think yeah so it's like Barbie's all one way it's like the ocean's plastic everyone loves Barbie it's all one way so if the guys are gonna take over Barbie land wouldn't it have to be that to me well I mean the name itself is hard to get past Barbie land Barbie land yeah well it became it became Kent town I don't I think like the whole structure of the movie was like they put a bunch of ideas of what woke Hollywood is supposed to be like shook it up and like just threw it all out there like for instance like Mattel like that
3:23 whole um like the whole structure of Mattel and then going to Barbie land and then just kind of showing up and just kind of being there like the structure of of the humor just didn't did it for you Daddy can I ask you an unrelated question yeah do you hate girl power I mean I mean how come you're sure okay so you say you like girl power but you don't like the Barbie movie no yeah they're not supportive yeah right hey dude I I support girl power did you see Barbie no if you want to talk about a good movie go to go to Oppenheimer Oppenheimer openheimer who's watching Barbie here it's just them and then they both have the I watch Oppenheimer do you like that one yeah I think it was great yeah it's amazing but also I'm a history buff so I'm biased to run up
4:15 your alley for me I was like oh definitely yeah you know he's your Avengers great job because I I said this off camera too making a three hour long movie about a bunch of men talking that's very difficult that's so difficult and they did such a good job of actually piecing that together yeah but that's why I haven't seen it yet because nobody can ████ successfully pitch me that oh you know what you know what would make you watch it three hours of dudes talking I exactly but I think you would the reason why like if I was to sell it to you I would be like so I award extra points to when you have to make a film about something that could so easily either be bad go wrong create outrage and they did they satisfied it well and I think it's cool to see somebody navigate that successfully when you could so easily ████ it up because this is why a three hour this is why a three hour movie feels not so three I
5:05 think you'd be amazed because it's actually multiple stories if you look at it yeah so it continuously progresses but like change is kind of tone too because there's different goal posts it's not like a full-on three hours of one long it is a narrative but like it's not you know it's like it almost feels like one exactly like it it opens and ends opens and ends opens and I think the writer in you love it yeah my brother told me there's titties in this I'll probably see it yeah but to me it wasn't luscious ████ yeah dude it was like artistic tits so it's like our tits yeah our tits is not luscious things oh now I'll go see it but anyway thank you I think you'd like it for that reason like Titanic tips it didn't feel like to me at least it
5:55 didn't feel like a pretentious three hour movie of like watch me director jack off on myself yeah yeah yeah it was actually it felt like for the audience it wasn't ████ I know what you mean again you know like ████ the Hollywood one what was that with Once upon a time once upon a time was such a oh the good old days of Hollywood and we're ████ I get to do a movie that I want to do it was what like how long that movie felt like a three hour that movie did feel long yeah I was like when is anything gonna happen dude same with licorice pizza that felt way long oh really that looked like a movie that was jerking off all over let's watch watch that really you know no okay if you like absurdist the Weird Al one came out oh yeah I gotta see that is it is like a comedy like a biopic okay so he's starring in it it's Weird Al right so
6:46 it's it's absurdist it's absurd and it's like he took the it's a it's a he's a parody genius took the piss out of the biopics right basically he took the format of and it gets crazy and crazy it's like the Dewey Cox Story like which I love I love one right right right because that's supposed yeah yeah but I was hoping there was some level of truth to it because I was genuinely curious you're interested yeah yeah but I didn't get it I took the piss yeah yeah it was hanging out with the queen and ████ and like right like it may as well have been spinal tap at that point right it just got crazier and crazier but I I thought it was creative how he came up with The Inspirations of the songs in it because like in every biopic movie about ████ musicians it's like well I was tapping my feet and I saw in the kitchen this was happening and then it just came to me you know and then like all of his
7:36 ████ things were like that for the top hits did you see Bohemian Rhapsody oh I love that I ████ loved it it was the worst that way it was so good dude oh God no Mike Myers is wrong on that movie where he's like no but it's ever going to listen to a band called Queen ████ Winery it was textbook yeah I ████ loved it but you know what I I think like was awesome though the performance scenes were just amazing yeah it could have been a music video yeah it could just be a tick tock Stitch right I'd also just rather watch the original music videos too that's true true to me it was just a transition to it was a musical with transitions that's all it was but that yeah it's a weird ████ movie what are your thoughts though on the movie business where it's at right now and like you know our movie's gonna die it gets so tough I think it's tough to
8:26 be and the strikes yeah the strikes I think it's tough to be a director to have a something that isn't going to quickly make money um like with Barbie I mean whether you think they're you know being satire or joking or if they're really just making a movie about that um people are going to see it people are gonna love it people are going to hate it um and people are that's what the topic right now is about yeah and I think that's what people are making movies now is like whatever the topic is heavy now so anything else that is maybe a little bit more in depth gets a loss in Translation funding doesn't go to it um this uphill battle also just everything with with sag the rider strike I mean who knows how long that's gonna go for they don't have a lot of Leverage um you know so what are you thoughts on
9:16 like the streaming aspect of it like should people get the residuals that you deserve yeah yeah good answer good answer let me zoom out a little bit more so I just think in terms of just overall entertainment I feel like entertainment is usually some form of like art slash business and I feel like the business end has taken priority yes over the Arts over the art across the board I'm making so sad because it's like everybody who wants to create something for the art aspect is just kind of like like kind of depressed in a way of not wanting to create it anymore because there's just no incentive money-wise to to do so yeah would you guys say like in the film industry the biggest example of the industry taking more of the business side is like them pushing out all these
10:08 superhero movies is that is that like the the model and it works yeah because it's repeatable they see your return on it though so like why wouldn't they do there's almost there's a return as soon as they green light something right they can already answer me how much they can get back that's the whole thing it's like it's more of a guarantee and you're less likely to get fired right and then just not on the movie side but unlike like the uh like all the merch that comes with like say the flash toys um it's more money than the movie usually yeah for sure absolutely so yeah so if the ████ movie doesn't do well they still have a whole other backside of like hey look we're we're making way more money than we thought also hero movies translate better overseas than like a dialogue heavy ████ thing it's why George Lucas wouldn't kill Han Solo if you remember because he didn't want he he said kids aren't going to buy a Honda pan solo action figures if they know he dies oh yeah wow right so true
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12:40 football for eligibility terms and responsible gaming resources bonus bets expire seven days after issuance eligibility and deposit restrictions apply I feel like um as we develop like more technology and and culture move forward and stuff right like all this is is actually just storytelling and we're using different methods to tell a story like before it was for like just in the around a campfire then it got into like radio then it's like opening books radio right and then and then being able to move a picture like a screen like you know there's moving pictures now there's the movie industry right so now like you can stream real life you can do all that stuff so as the technology moves and people get bored because that will happen because industry will be created
13:30 behind certain technology like the radio there used to be radio stories and episodes like people would tune in as a family they just listen to that format and then they're like well draft attention they weren't looking at anything else they're all listening and looking at the radio yeah and then and then a television came out and I and I and I was seeing like how people were comparing when the television revolutionized and how that was like YouTube because the film industry was talking ████ saying like oh that's just the fad TV is not you know but then through TV they created episodic four stories yeah deeper stories than you could ever tell because you can be with the same character every week right and then there was a personal connection like the way they feel about YouTubers today where you're vlogging and you're personally connected to this person versus being at Live Theater at Broadway
14:22 or like if you watch a film and it's just one hour right and then so like now we're I think at this point where that Golden Era of film that cycle is like at this tail end where Something's Gotta change and be disruptive attention spans do you think that yeah I think so I feel like this will be part of it yeah because we're facing it on YouTube too because during covid when Tick Tock really blew up it took market share from uh YouTube and long form is considered 30 minute videos now or 10 minute videos so like I think both of them happening at the same time though it's almost like a new generation is coming up like I go right like that generation is coming up are they gonna have even shorter attention spans and like the Millennials have but then at the same time we have like podcasts like Joe Rogan is three hours do people sit there listening and
15:12 then you have streaming for like 24 hours yeah so it's like right but then how many times do you guys sit there and watch a movie with nothing but attention on the movie at the theater I do that I do that a lot because it forces you me too I try to watch movies that's my favorite way to watch it but then also on the flip side too Netflix made the binge watching possible yes right where you would upload all seasons all at once and now you got you know you could binge watch whole entire series when they don't have that I get pissed I'm like what the ████ yeah you get mad yeah why is it next Sunday who gives a ████ just we grew up watching stay tuned next Friday once a week and you're like oh it's Sunday I can't ████ go out I gotta watch my thing it is funny though because I it's fun to point out the hypocrisy of it too is it like I am part of the problem them in the sense that I'm complaining about mainstream films but then I also go to Art House films go
16:03 to the theater walk out and go well that ████ sucked yeah it's like you are still um subject to the movie being good no matter what medium it's on but you still paid and support it though yeah but the funny thing is that when something is a mainstream like major film you have more people policing it to make sure it's ████ good when something's an art house film it just has to be what it is right and how much there's no pressure how much stimulation right do people need because there are people who are right now listening to us but they're also playing a video game or some ████ right yeah that's tight that's tight the best way to do it best way that we're a routine because they want to feel background noise or like they're getting ready in the morning or whatever people know these are good at that yeah yeah people can do three things at once especially Drive I watch JK news and drive the whole time so people want variety right like maybe there's sometimes I want to zone out into
16:53 something that you know is just you know not super intelligent and just yeah all over the place right and then there are times where I really want to get involved in something I really want to be right you know invested in in what I'm watching right I do believe though um you know Industries work in Cycles right and if something becomes too bureaucratic too much waste to in like there's it's just too many rules and like it has to be this format it has to be this way you have too many kings and queens in certain positions that never leave their um like place right there needs to be a disruption that happens or else other things will take the attention and space of that well that disruption's happening because the movie business is pretty ████ right except except for like like look at Oppenheimer and Barbie that's
17:43 like an outlier it's an outlier and they're working really hard to replicate Marvin Heimer like ████ hard yeah and then it's gonna get corny but yeah exactly they're going to work on like the Golden Era where like remember like when we're like kids or even in high school the movie theater was like packed all summer long the morning until night yeah most movie theaters are ghost towns these days like you go there it's not like people lining out the door people getting dropped off by their parents yeah it's like when we saw barbie we heard how sold out it was me and my group we were all wearing pinkish and we're even part of the movement uh we just bought tickets when we got there because like yeah it wasn't oh really everyone said it was sold out but it wasn't dangling this ████ yeah will you try it three times and it will yeah and every single time it was like all the seats were filled and I'm like I ain't ████ waiting really that's how
18:33 I felt when I went to I whenever I go to iPic because I watch movies there a lot I'm like damn it sold out oh actually there's only 16 ████ seats in there but also there's a small theater it depends on the culture of the city too because I know like in Hawaii it's it's pretty they're more like they go out to events they do stuff right so then like maybe going to the movie is still a thing out there yeah because yeah I couldn't get a seat man I was like ████ or maybe that immediate Community around it just does that yeah it might be the theater that we were going to it's just the only thing around you know it also seems like post covet the movie business completely changed yeah like yeah there was like um people were still funding like independent projects and stuff like that that's basically gone yeah it's really not there unless you're some kind of
19:24 name yeah already yeah so you already had your foot in the door but otherwise it's really dry even in this city it's shut down because of it yeah I started seeing the I don't want to say Decay but the but the deterioration of it in about I think 2009 or 10 and when we started pitching they were saying like the budgets were running out for mid-tier so like they're they're uh funding like what do you call it Indie budgets are under a couple mil because they're like we could take a chance at this because this was around the time when um uh that ████ witch Paranormal Activity and things like that yeah yeah they're like they made up like 50k exactly a Witch Project yeah Blair Witch Blair wish yeah yeah dude everyone wanted to make that happen yeah so many other stuff came out the the movie business
20:15 was like what the ████ wow genre yeah and then and then the money was drying up because that's around the time when a lot of people stopped going to theaters so then as YouTube was coming up no one took YouTubers seriously but we're going into these meetings and rooms because they were curious about digital and that's when I was like oh ████ dude this is gonna die and then a lot of people were like thinking film will never like the theaters won't ever and I'm like yeah but they just told us that the middle tier that they were blowing money on like the ones were it's kind of like mid budget right what would they be like 10 million to 10 30. whatever and then they're like no everything's gonna pivot to where it's if it's not Blockbuster top level ████ all this stuff they're not gonna fund and then they're gonna fund all the small ████ to try to like get high gains
21:06 and that's exactly what they did so yeah I mean that's the thing it's it's it was it's all about maximizing profits at the end as well it's a business you don't want to get fired you don't want to get fired and that's the biggest thing if you have something that costs no money but it made a huge return you're get you're getting promoted right yeah well it kind of goes back to what Barbara was saying business and the art form there's there's a lot of great stories with great art forms that should be made that are just getting piled and slammed underneath and will never be made just because they just don't have the type of publicity or the names backing them to do it when you look at all the movies you watched back in the day that were original stories that now are just being remade rather than rather than having another original Dude they've remade that's someone that's
21:58 just a bunch of remakes for the most part but it's a it's more of a guarantee because it's got a name right so it's got a follower yeah because then you have a base audience that you know will watch because I'll be like this is stupid and I'm like but I got it but I gotta see it it's a Roadhouse fan base we'll see if that pops up yeah and some people watch it just to make sure it sucks yeah in closing do you think that the fact that I like the Barbie movie will get me laid more no I think the fact that you liked Barbie movie made me question our friendship well I'll watch it and I'll see if I expect either of you up it's so weird because I were funny I was just like what the ████ okay I'm like my break I need Green's going soft
22:55 it's so absurd it's so cringy that I I that's what made me just I liked the female girl power moment where uh America what's her name Ferreira America Ferreira was that her name oh I just made that up picking nailed it but she she gave a monologue about girl power ████ and I could tell all these ████ are getting wet about it right but then they got they had Ken basically you know do the same thing almost about like being a man and I thought that that was like oh okay they didn't just go one way and I thought that was it was just interesting also additionally about like capitalism how every time they were in that Chevy car looked like a Chevy car commercial it sure did like sure like they pulled it out of a commercial and just planted it but isn't that that's the point right yeah yeah so but it's just like for me
23:45 I'm like is it it's like are you sneaking in the literalism launching t-shirts having them unfurl and saying what it's ████ called on the screen yeah like it was that absurd oh let's see if there's moments like that where I was like okay cool but it was always there's too little of those moments for me to be like I believe you oh you know what I mean so I was like like you missed the mark too many times for me to be like kind of like how like Deadpool was making fun of superhero movies the whole movie so you're like I know yeah versus just having three moments where they make fun of them you just like fell into that yeah you guys are missing the real point the real point is Margot Robbie in a bikini come
24:37 on man Ryan Gosling with his sleeves off that's right we've all agreed oh
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