0:00 [Music] Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. Today we have our um chief our chief diplomat uh for officer for international relations to China, >> Anthony Lee. >> Niha, >> tell everybody Niha. >> Yeah, Niha. >> Howdy. Howdy, Anthony. >> Sick. >> Good. Good. me >> how >> you're one of them Chinese. >> That's Chang to you, brother. Cool. It's a Tang land. So, I thought it was interesting. I heard these guys talking a little bit and uh they were saying how surprising it is that there's a lot of striking similarities between um the People's Republic of China and United States of America. >> Like similarities that like we both have
0:51 McDonald's. >> Well, yeah, that is one of them. Did you hear that about two countries that have McDonald's will never directly go to war? >> Yeah, they can't go to war because their trade is too like linked, right? >> Like it's not good for business. That's why they'll do a proxy war. But like >> holy ████ >> It's interesting that we're taught here like we're the ████ best. We don't have corruption. We don't have everybody else does, but we have free moral good, you know, everything is like on the up and up here. >> Innocent till proven guilty. we have the better law system, all this stuff that we tell ourselves. >> But you look at their countries and you're like, wait, I see some striking sim similarities like uh we we all have kind of a ruling class. >> We do have an >> oligarchy. >> Yeah, we do for sure.
1:41 Um, and when you look at how countries and nations are built too, I feel like what's the difference between that and these old medieval kingdoms where you had kings and you had lords and then you had it's all we we just replaced that now with corporations. So I'm like >> and with corporations where we're supposed to have this mechanism where they can't even combine with each other without federal approval. So, it's to protect, you know, us consumers because you can't have corporations get too big. Tell it to Amazon, brother. They're never going to break that ████ up. >> Yeah, that's true. Plus, the >> antitrust doesn't exist anymore. Really? >> Yeah. And the whole thing where like so many people own the same things, but it's not evident to everybody. Like Rock, >> like where it looks like competing factions, but really the shareholders are all like the same and a black stone. >> Legit. >> Why would you have two companies that sound so similar? Black Rock, Blackstone. >> Because they don't care that you know.
2:32 Yeah. What are some other popular things that like America criticizes China for? Like, oh, that's a bad way to run the country. But then we also do it. >> Censorship. >> Yeah. >> Big time. >> Yeah. Especially the Western world where everyone thinks they're like free speech, right? But look at what's happening in France, England. Like in I just thought it was wild where like Europe a lot of people are going to jail for what they wrote on >> Yeah. In the UK it's really odd. Yeah. You can you can write something online and then go to jail for it. >> UK has the highest number of arrests around the world right now for like online, you know, speaking out of >> there was a comedian that wrote something on Twitter and he was doing a show and when he landed at the Heathrow airport, there were cops waiting for him to be like, "Oh, these you wrote these tweets. You're coming to the station." >> I was like, "What the f███?" >> That's like China,
3:23 >> right? >> That's crazy. >> Yeah, that is. >> You know what's really interesting? um from like when you're on the ground level like as a normal civilian you're just a citizen of the nation you're not like a person in power you're not a position you're not a government head you're not military but you you're just a civilian >> the honest differences of living your regular life whether it be like in China or here you feel very little differences like you don't feel like like oh my god this lifestyle is so different being in a communist nation or like a free democratic society like you don't feel the difference because your daily actions and interactions they don't affect the greater nation you just live your life right I didn't see giant differences until co happened >> explain >> when co happened in China everybody's on
4:14 the same rule system for the whole country >> they were welding people in apartment buildings >> but >> I didn't see that here >> but everybody's in the same system whereas over here LA's LA's fully quarantined and OC's everybody's out partying with no masks on. >> But what I did see is a grandma's climbing out of the 25th floor trying to escape >> from the welded windows, but everybody's on the same rule system. So like >> So they're telling other neighbors. You like that? >> No, no, no. I get what you're saying. It's like >> they they have everyone in line in China where America it >> it's not the federal government does doesn't have as much power as the local states >> for better or worse. I'm not saying one's better. >> I think it's better. Well, for example, one of my favorite things uh that I've seen in a long time that I went America hell yeah was when Gavin Newsome and
5:05 California said during co don't shoot off fireworks. Like don't have celebrations, don't shut off fireworks. I've never seen a bigger ████ you display of fireworks in my entire life. I think every single house in all of Los Angeles shot fireworks off because that's the American spirit. Don't tell me what the ████ to do. >> Control me in a different way. For sure. Like I said, for better or worse. So, but >> tax the ████ out of me. >> Tax the ████ out of me. Use class warfare on me, but trick me into doing all this racial >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And and we're probably like a hundred times closer to civil war in this country than China is. >> Yeah. >> Oh, so like >> and our civil war would be actually redot. >> But does China even have a chance if they were to like for civil war? It would just get crushed. Like it would be so one-sided, would >> China? >> Yeah. >> No. Well, what I found out about their internal politics is they spend way more
5:57 time and money trying to stay unified because it's actually not Han people. So like China has like so many different ethnicities and different regions and their whole ████ is to make sure each governor is in line and not trying to fight and take over. So because they got a billion people, right? cuz I was thinking about it like can the western independent thinking my vote counts and all this stuff would that work in China? I don't really know. >> Yeah. >> You know, like I think with Confucianism and communism, I think like that whole hierarchy ████ it just works with the culture. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But then they also think like we're not free, you know, because you know how like they talk about how u they're like, "Can you say that nad?" And then we're like, "Well, we can, but
6:47 like we don't want to." And he goes, "Then it's not a free country. You cannot say the n word every day." I say it every day. >> Yeah. >> I mean, you technically can. >> They're like, "We have a free speech." >> It's just not a good idea. >> True. >> But see, the difference with, again, this is just generalizing, but with China, it's like, you follow the rules, we'll take care of everything. Uh >> here it's like you want freedom, >> you're on your own. Yeah. >> But also you have to listen to us. >> Yeah. Here it's like >> Yeah. Your freedom has a little bit of rules still too. >> Yeah. Here it's like you have to learn how to bend all the rules in order to make it above the initial level. >> Here is like it's like dude, you have genuine the American dream. You have the freedom to to climb the ladder as high as you can. Also though, if you trip and fall and you fall all the way to the
7:37 ground, we're not going to take care of you. >> No. Yeah. That's the price of the freedom that you got for getting the ability to >> even if you're a military veteran, we're not going to take care of you. Like, don't worry, we're not going to we got we don't got you. >> I mean, they're they're better than most, I would say. Like, cuz my mom was like saying, you know what I like about America? And I was like, why? She goes, "This is a land of many mistakes." And I was like, "What do you mean by many mistakes?" She goes, "You can make so many mistakes and still make it." >> Cuz she said she saw it as like a place where like in Japan you got one shot. She goes like, "You got one shot to do this test." I think a lot of Asian countries run this way where you got this kind of SAT for high school >> if and then that's going to be your make it or break it because that will determine if you get into the Ivy League of that country which also like gets you
8:27 into one of the big corporations like Sony, Toyota or whatever and then you work in management or something like that. If you don't do that, you're t like you know >> it'll never happen for you. Huh? >> No, you just won't. It It just won't work. >> Yeah. >> And in entrepreneurship and things like that, it's it's not easy, you know? It's not something that is normal. Like they they do it, but it's not like here. >> Yeah. Right. Right. >> Like over there, they're working like 80 hours a week. It's all like familyowned. They're hustling for like dimes, you But over here, you could you could be an entrepreneur, too, and you could sink 5,000 hours of your life into something and never see a dime. >> Like, you really could. >> That's true. Yeah. >> So, but I that's why, look, as much as we're talking crap, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. >> No, me neither. For sure. It's the best. >> But also because I truly don't know anywhere else like in that way. I truly
9:19 don't. >> No, that's true. Like even talking to like Bart and like his dad fled communism. Like I don't need to know what the other side's like. >> Yeah. If that many people are are trying that hard to >> I've been in a billion Ubers with Cuban ladies who have told me like this communism s███'s ████ terrible. And I'm like I trust you. I don't need to learn what it's like on the other side. Trust me. Like I believe you people. Like thank you for teaching me and other people that because I don't want to learn for myself. >> Because even the people that hate America so much, they still don't leave. That's it. >> Well, Ellen went to the UK. >> Oh, yeah. Ellen left. >> Yeah. They're not climbing into containers trying to go to China, you know. >> However, if we hypothetically were to go into like this era civil war, like I'm talking boots on the ground, like guns, like pick a side type stuff. You're fighting with your like neighbor type ████ >> American civil war.
10:09 >> Yeah. American. >> I'm going Hawaii, man. If we were to actually go into that, I wouldn't I wouldn't know what's better or worse anymore because now we're we're experiencing something that like maybe our forefathers experienced, you know, like our our Would you move to China then? >> I have no idea. All I'm saying is our parents who like fled communism like they lived through war, I can barely say ████ ever >> to them, you know? But if we had our own war to live through, then at that point I would be able to actually discern whether or not, wait, is this the greatest country in the world? Because now I'm living through something extremely tragic. >> But as bad as things have gotten, we all talk about that, right? And the dark times, all stuff, we still haven't gone through >> 100%. Which makes us the greatest country in the world. >> I'm telling you. And in a way, yeah, because we have our differences so much and they're deep, especially right now.
11:01 And I think everyone says it every single year of my life, but we don't have that yet. And I think that there's something about this place that's special because of that. >> Oh, for sure. >> And I also think it's so dang big that you can find like >> Yeah, you can switch gears pretty easy. >> Like if this is who you are, this is who you like this is your community. You can find that. And I think that's the beauty of it, too. Cuz >> in other countries, it's if you're if you're kind of like an outcast, you really are. There's no place for you. >> Yeah. Here, you can get cancelled for SA online and then you can disappear, change your name, go to another state, and keep working, baby. >> Dexter Morgan style. I also think too like um the way that you know freedom of failure right here it it's like guys don't need that much. As a man I don't
11:52 need that much. All the ████ that I have in my house and stuff I love cuz Nikki likes it and stuff but like at the end of the day all a guy truly needs is a TV on the floor and like one of those beach chairs. Just you put the beach chair up and then what's that cost? Like ████ 150 bucks maximum these days cuz TVs are so cheap. And it's like then what? Like I just need electricity to my apartment. I have to have an apartment. So you could live reasonably as a man alone for like a thousand bucks a month maybe or less. >> Dude, if I have a cigar and maybe a couple of ████ every week, that's it. That's all I need. >> That's what I'm saying. Like people act like we need all this other ████ We don't. As men, we don't. I just need very little. Very, very, very little. Mhm. >> I think the cool thing too is that like I where I don't know where the America lies on the greatest country scale for
12:42 real for real, but I think this is the one where I think I can manage the best as a person. Like I just don't know if I have a good chance anywhere else really. Like all the people that are going like, "Yeah, like you you might be able to like the rebuttal of like I don't want to get randomly stabbed or killed so then I leave LA, but then someone's rebuttal will be like, yeah, but you'll never escape white collar crime." And it's like, yeah, I could ████ live through it, though. And I want a shot. That's it. I just want a chance to like kind of navigate around the things that exist. Like whether it's the oligarchy, like, yeah, it's there, but we can ████ coexist a little. I have no shot against a dude shooting me randomly >> in the back of the head when I'm at an ATM. Like, that's what I don't want. >> So, don't go to Brazil. >> Yeah. >> And by the way, we know that happens in America. ████ We know that happens
13:32 in America. But he's talking about like the ratio, brother. >> I'm talking about like there's a way in to stay in the country and still get away from the things that you feel like are the bigger threats like >> Yeah. Which I that's why I like it. >> Only in America could you live so well for with so little in my opinion. >> Like a good quality of life with a decent job. Yeah. >> And access to information and access to everything. >> Unless you're like an expat who did well and you have like a nice little seed amount of money and you just live in Bali, live in Thailand, one of those. But that's like you that's different because you have to have that already established so that you can >> Well, yeah. Yeah. >> You have to have at least 50 grand. >> Yeah. How many years does that get you? >> Five. >> Hell yeah. >> It's pretty sick. Tab.
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