0:00 [Music] And welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys where we have esteemed public school teacher turn >> an educator a true educator >> because we are you know that channel that harbors uh typically you know very very difficult public school students here >> all of us >> specifically two people. >> Hey I'm a private school student. >> Nick and Ryan. No, >> I'm just kidding. >> I was a good kid. What what were some of like the either the most difficult or like some of the hardships that you faced as like a public school teacher? And we want to know some specifics. >> Okay. Some hardships. Um well, I remember that. Oh man, I don't know if I should say this cuz they going
0:50 to know who who they are. >> Just don't say their name. >> You tell the story. You can tell the story and then the name. Do they know who they need to know that this is something that you still think about? >> Can you tell them yours and see where that rates on what you've seen as a teacher? >> Yeah, you tell your story. >> Okay. So, uh, when I was, um, cuz like after hearing your stories, you know, I'm like, dude, now I feel so bad cuz I'm like, teachers have it so hard cuz I'm I'm thinking it from my angle. I'm like, man, this teacher's a ████ dick. But I'm like, but there's 40 of me and so they're just doing their best to try to like maintain >> and five periods of that. >> Five periods and I'm like a ████ pain in the ass. So, uh, my senior year, me and my friends, we went camping and then we thought it'd be a fun to be funny to go to the forest and then we all took a picture with our asses out like this with our butt cheeks, right? And we're and and we're uh facing the camera and we took a picture and then um I don't
1:43 know why I thought it'd be hilarious if I showed that picture to my teacher, my English teacher. So, she walks by and I'm like I forgot what her name was. And I was like I was like, "You want to see something funny?" She was like, "Sure." And I and I go like this. There's like six butt cheeks going across the thing. And then she's like, "Okay." She takes it and then later she writes me up and then she's like, "Uh, Bart, I'm going to need you to have to go to the principal's office." And I was like, "What the f███?" I'm like, "All right." And I go and I don't even know what the I guess charge or whatever is >> cuz he doesn't think you did anything wrong. >> I'm like, "I I guess he just doesn't I don't know. I disturbed class somehow with that." And then I I found out I got wrote up for sexual harassment >> cuz I guess I'm showing like ████ nudes or something. >> Showing cheeks. >> Yeah. But that's like that's like platonic nudes, you know? >> Platonic nudes. >> And I'm like, "Holy ████ this is crazy." I'm like, >> she goes, "You just show me child porn. You know that, right?" >> Yeah. I'm not a ████ I'm not a predator.
2:33 I'm not a predator or anything like that. I'm like, "This is crazy. I can't believe I got charged for something like this." >> Like, um, >> I'm not a predator. I sold myself. >> So, what what happened afterwards? >> I got suspended for 3 days. >> And I had to explain that to my dad like, "Yeah, I showed my teacher my butt cheeks." And then >> you know when you say it like that >> what >> I showed my teacher my butt cheeks. >> Yeah. That's pretty >> I guess a picture of my butt cheeks. >> Yeah. >> Big difference. Okay. I didn't show it to her in person. >> That's true. >> You should have signed it. >> It's like if I show a teacher my dickpick, it's completely that's that's romantic news. >> That's next level. >> Platonic platonic news. >> Okay. Platonic news >> in the in the in the scale of the things you see. Like was that closer to like the worst? >> Is that a justified suspension? >> I have never experienced that before.
3:26 >> Even that mild one is worse than anything he's seen. That's crazy. So that's how you know for an error, bro. >> He's like, "Thank God I didn't have a bar." >> Steven would be like, "I don't know what to do with this." >> He's like, "I think I'm going to quit. I think I'm going to move, dude." >> That's an easy one, too. That's not I bet you that's not even the worst thing you got. >> For sure. >> No, for sure it wasn't. But there was just one thing that came to mind where I thought it was like we're just like dude in class, you know, and then you're like suspended. What the ████ >> For that three days for that. >> I feel like if it were me just it's hard like whenever kids get they do something like that. I have two voices in my head. I'm like ah shoot like I have to like talk to this kid and everything. But then the second thing is like I have to like do I write them up? And if I write them up then there's like more paperwork
4:17 that I have to do too on my site. So I'm like oh gosh like or maybe I can just let it go as a warning or something. But yeah, I I never experienced >> Oh, like a nice cop. >> I could have Yeah, that could have been like strike seven that week. >> How old were you? >> I was a senior so like 17. >> Yeah. >> So I Yeah, it could have been like the maybe it was a Thursday or Friday. She just had it up to here with me. You know, she's like, "If I get this guy suspended, I won't have to see him for 3 days or something." I don't know. Now that I think back like an adult, you know, she's probably >> She needed a break. >> Yeah. She probably just needed like, "Man, this guy's a ████ nuisance." >> So, what about you? Something >> something that you experienced that was >> crazy. Uh, okay. Sure. Uh, okay. There was Have you guys seen Breaking Bad? >> Yeah. >> Have you seen
5:07 >> Better Call? Yes. No. Okay. No. Okay. Well, uh I forgot his name, but um the brother had a >> radio frequency >> electro allergy thing. Yeah. >> Yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. That >> can't decide if it's really in here >> or if it's Yeah, >> that's right. >> So, I had a student that had this allergy. >> Yeah. >> Like a Wi-Fi allergy. >> Wi-Fi allergy >> to electronics. I wasn't too I was like, "Oh, I didn't I didn't know this was like a thing thing like or I'm like open-minded. I'm like, "Okay, maybe it is a thing." But I remember the first or first or second week um of school, the parent came in with a little device and she was like, "Oh, is it cool if I check your scan your room?" I'm like, "Oh, yeah, that's fine." So, she was like walking from like corner to corner trying to see where the most radio
5:58 frequencies were. So, then she's like, "Oh, okay. So this corner right here, this corner right here, and this corner right here. Like is it okay if my my kid doesn't sit in any of these corners? So then I was like, "Oh yeah, sure." So like whenever the we had that class, whenever I had the class and I had the student in there, I had to make sure that for my seating chart that I would put him away from those little hot spots and I would have to tell my students to turn off their cell phones. And I'm just like in my head I'm like, "Oh gosh." Like what a worse time to to be born in with technology with all the cell phones and everything. >> All the 5G everywhere. >> Yeah. Cuz this is was like farmtown nowhere. Like it's there's no there's nothing. There's not even telephone wires. >> Yeah. I Yeah. I didn't know like >> 1933, you know, that would have been
6:48 perfect for this. >> Yeah. Right. >> Port of the wrong era. >> Eventually the student left uh went to another school. I think it was just like somewhere further away with all the technology and everything. Um, but I just remember like uh that's that's crazy. And then we had to take our >> Wait, that's the worst student you ever >> Oh, no. No. Just I'm just I'm just thinking about stories. >> No, no. The the student was >> This isn't even his fault. >> I'm thinking of interesting stories that you know. Yeah. >> In the meantime, in the meantime, one more story. One more story. What he's really doing is he's hoping that you're going to name something worse than him, but it's >> so he doesn't feel so bad. >> Yeah. He's like, "Come on, show some cheeks." >> When you said seating chart, I did remember a time like I was like, "Oh ████ I do see the seating chart." And there's a girl I like. And I switched her spot with someone else's spot so that so we could sit next to each other. I was like, "Yes." >> Wow.
7:38 >> And you didn't close, did you? >> ████ no. I was nervous. >> I wasn't supposed to sit here. >> We're just like this. We're just like this. I'm like, "Hell yeah. She looked at me twice today. Is >> this high school, too? >> This is my junior high thing. >> This is actually my third year in college. >> You didn't show any butt pictures too early. >> That might have worked. >> A good icebreaker. >> Yeah, but the kid was super nice and everything. There was no like he was like the sweetest kid. Parents were super cool and everything. It's just like every time we have to use our laptops. So, we had to uh I had to go send him to the this other room where the computers were hardwired. They weren't they didn't have Wi-Fi. >> So, did you ever see the kid get visibly
8:28 affected? Like where >> uh he said he would get like rashes. >> Does someone have their phone on like that? >> Yeah. So, I I don't know if it was like I didn't I don't know. Yeah. I wasn't too sure. But that was that's nice of you to accommodate. >> Yeah. Seriously, he's the only Fly Spirit cuz they don't got Wi-Fi on that. Like, what the hell is that? >> Like, who doesn't have a cell phone anymore? >> Someone sitting next to you could be making an itch. >> What doesn't have Wi-Fi? >> True. >> Yeah. >> This office used to until 4 years ago. >> What about like problem parents or any situations that got uncomfortable with that? >> You ever got screamed at? >> Did you ever get blamed for like a kid's like failure >> performance in class? Um I I think I feel like I did. I don't Let
9:18 me think. >> Has anyone ever bribed you? >> Ooh, that's a good one. Oh, Chinese parents be bribing. Huh. >> So, some of the Asian like >> $20 a I mean, it's not really a bribe. It was It was more like, "Can you write a letter recommendation?" I mean, I would have done it without the you know, whatever >> cuz they're good students. >> Yeah, they're good. Yeah. I'm like, "Oh, yeah. I can totally do that." And I told you to say it wasn't really a bribe. It was more like a donation. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> They were giving like gift cards and stuff like you're not supposed to take any uh monetary like you can't take money but you can take gift >> Bitcoin. What do you have? >> What about crypto? >> Crypto. >> Fruit basket. >> Take some Ethereum. >> I can't take money. Has a freaking QR code for Bitcoin right here. >> Did you How about like other faculty? Did you ever not get along with someone else that was like >> drama? because I know that can be a
10:09 thing that and students never see it until like later in life. >> Oh yeah, my old roommate was a teacher. She was Dude, I'm like y'all some children yourselves. The way you fight, it's crazy. >> Nobody ever ate your lunch. >> I know. >> Oh, no. All my co-workers were super cool. I didn't really have any >> Yeah. I mean, so I like back then I was like pretty introverted. Uh I would I would have this classroom where there was this glass panel and then there was this hallway and another glass panel and then you see another room. So it's room, hallway and then room. And then all of the teachers would usually sit in that room to eat lunch together. and they would always invite me, but >> I would always sit in my own room and not like just I just wanted to like just have my own piece of like just I'm tired like as an introvert like I just need to
11:00 regain my battery before the next like wave of students come in. So I'm like eating in there by myself and then they sometimes like wave at me. like, "Oh, hey, what's up?" You know, but um but I think I I don't want to say like it's hard. Sometimes I did talk to some of my co-workers where I shared with them some of my aspirations, some of my entrepreneurial like I was like tutoring at the time. I was like, "Oh, I want to start this business and everything." And I do get a little bit of like like >> like it's not going to work. >> Yeah, it's like a not going to work kind of thing. >> Well, how would they know? They're teachers. They don't know ████ about money. >> But some teachers are jaded though too a little bit, right? They're like >> they're too busy ████ That's But that's every school. That's true. But I feel like especially for schools though, for teachers, they just get beat down every year. It's a hard It's such a hard
11:50 job. Their spirit eventually goes like you'll never make it out of here. >> You know, I'm guessing they've like been working at that school longer than you. So they're maybe some weird invisible seniority. I think anybody anybody who does what you do and you tell them you want to do more is usually going to respond. >> But I thought teachers made a lot. Well, especially in lower income because uh my friend's mom was making like six figures. >> Taking donations of Bitcoin. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, she was also like >> teaching what? >> But she she probably worked for 30 years. >> That's Yeah, that's probably what it is. >> Dang. >> Salary step schedule. So you can see like uh for every one year every year you get a bump in salary like by 2 3%. But then after a while then you have your plateau for like a good 5 years and then after you hit like maybe year 15 to
12:41 the year 17 or to 18 then you get that next one. >> So there are a lot of teachers nowadays that get paid six figures in California. It's not throughout entire America. >> Yeah. Jeez, that's a long vacation. That's cuz it cost six figures to exist out here. It >> cost more than that. >> No, she had Yeah, I think she she had to be in her mid to late 50s. No, I don't know cuz we were all in our mid20s at the time. So, I was like, she makes what? Six figures? >> Yeah. >> So, so how did you go from trying to explain these entrepreneurial ambitions and kind of like getting a little bit of the stiff upper lip to being like, "All right, I'm going to go do this." So, I got a little bit of like, you know, like eye rolling or, you know, or sometimes I would try new things in my class. >> Yeah. Right. Richie Rich, I
13:31 >> You're one of us. You'll never be one of them. >> Who do you think you are? >> It's tough. I I think like emotionally just like, oh gosh, like just everyone saying these things. >> It was a bummer over here. >> It's kind of Yeah. And that's kind of like the reason why I didn't I didn't really want to like I just kind of want to be by myself just to recharge and like, oh, okay. And then I would like watch my shows or I would listen to podcasts while I'm eating. Um or like I'd be like reading a book or something like, "Oh, this is how you do this." I'm like, "Oh, this is a really cool idea." >> Have your own positive thoughts. >> Yeah. My own little positive bubble within myself. >> That's good cuz it's hard to be around a lot of socialists. Like they just want handouts all day and work in the system and you're just like, "Man, I'm trying to be a ████ capitalist, dude. Trying to make hella money." It's it's I I think they kind of like what uh what Anthony talked about like how I feel like not everyone but some of the more
14:22 senior like more of the experienced seasoned teachers >> they the quality of teaching sometimes is a little bit Yeah. >> Yeah. A little Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. cuz we've all had tenure like professors and you could >> they don't care. >> I had one tenure professor in college. He just read he he would have powerpoints and he would just read off the paper and then just be like, "All right, test is tomorrow." I'm like, "What?" Dude, >> I like their classes the most because what ended up happening is they would roll in a TV and they would play a movie >> with no relevance to the topic. >> No, it was just we get to watch ████ books or something. I feel like it's usually social studies teachers, right, that do that cuz I
15:12 remember back in in high school myself, >> that was my favorite subject teachers. They wore like cargo shorts and had like flip-flops and then they also like coached like football or >> Yeah. the side. Yeah. >> The thing and then when they come to class, they don't really they just kind of like tell their stories and just kind of TV with the card and everything. So I mean I experienced that like too and I'm like ah man like I kind of I don't really agree with their teaching methods. So I don't know that's one of the reasons that I wanted to become a teacher was like okay maybe I can like change up the system and be like a good positive influence. But I think like just being in the public school teaching uh system I felt like there's not much you can do just as an individual. it has to be like this uh this whole huge movement like oh like everyone needs to be in it like we have to like learn and try to improve ourselves but I do
16:03 understand that >> once teachers get tenured it's kind of like oh well you can't really fire me unless something dramatic happens like I punch a kid or something like that right >> yeah so they're punching >> that's a fast track that's a fast track >> he just takes photos of his blush hands it out to just thinks everyone's tempted in that same You're you finish my sentence. >> Yeah. Or it's like, isn't that the best picture in the world? >> It's like, how do you resist? How do you like >> That picture was funny. >> I had to print copies >> cuz it was like this. It's like you see like evergreen trees and then a bunch of like dude's heads and everything looks normal if you keep sliding down and then all of a sudden you see like six bunches. >> Yeah, we get it. >> Yeah, man. We know. >> How did you take the picture back then? It was just I mean >> disposable disposable camera.
16:53 >> Disposable camera. >> Somebody took it for you. >> Not to get it developed. >> Yeah. >> Quite a lot. >> If you just asked a hiker to take it. >> Hey, we're going to do a funny thing. Uh, can you take a funny photo for us? >> It's going to make sense later. Just shoot the camera. >> I'm going to show it to my teacher. >> Gosh, dude.
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