0:00 [Music] Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. We have the Outcasts with us today. Hey, and I think if I'm not mistaken that Joe has something really serious to ask them about Macau. No, it's not about Macau. Oh, I'm sorry. You guys forgot the question. Oh, go ahead and reask it. All right. So, these guys are illegal immigrants and I'm about to call I'm going to call ICE on you. And I want to know Mhm. what the process is like for y'all to come into this country and become a red, white, and blue American. Redblooded American. Oh boy. You a lot of paperwork. Oh yeah. A lot of money. A lot of money. Not a guaranteed like you know approval. So
0:52 tell me from the beginning. No way. No, I just meant USCIS type of thing. when your husbands say I do to when you propose to them, right? Uh when you propose and then what was okay, how what was the beginning? Let me know. Can I'll tell you guys my immigrant story. Cuz I'm a passport bro. I got I got my immigrant wife from an island country. But go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. From a really poor island country. Yeah. North world even. I took advantage of her poverty. Oh my god. Yeah. He paid her. You heard? Yeah. It's called Wales. It's really poor. Whales. Yeah. It's a really small little island nation. Yeah. What was the process like your story? No, I was going to tell you. I was going to tell you, but I want
1:42 you to go first. Ladies first. Yes. Please. Yeah. So, I don't where to start. I mean, um, well, first you Google about it. See what you got to do. You Google Google the ████ out of like asking questions. Did you help each other or you did it by yourself? We had no idea about each other's like um love life at this point. It's just a lot of research. So you did the marriage first, right? I I was I joined actually like as a student and then after I came then we decided to like get married and settle. So student visa. Yeah. So you didn't illegally overstay your visa. Okay. So your student visa isn't the investigator right now. I'm speaking English. All right. I'm not going to call the police on you. I'm glad you you did it the right way or else I would have called Trump.
2:33 Speed dial. So, you were a student visa. Yeah. I studied here and then we decided to settle and then and then Yeah. And then I just did all the research, applied for got married, applied for the green card, waited like a whole 10 months. And I think there was a period of time when you're applying, you can't leave the country. That was hard cuz I was like favorite that part. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They love it. It's the best part of it. So, so we had to we were kind of stuck here and then and but then they give you the work um permits. They give you the travel permit which is like before you get the green card. So, at least at least I could work after I got that like you know minimal pay. That's really nice. Yeah. And then you're like on a temporary green card before you get the permanent green card, right? Yeah. Two years. So, this is two years. It's like a lime green card.
3:24 Black green neon green. Yeah. Um it's true. But I actually didn't have to renew my green card cuz cuz within that I actually applied for citizenship, I think. And then Oh, cool. Yeah. While mine was on process to be permanent green card like I could already apply for the passport. Yeah. Cuz it's like you have to stay in America for 5 years for you to be able to apply to be 3 years of his marriage. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, what? That's good information. Yeah. So you got to hold your green card for 3 years if you if you can't but then it takes 10 months to get the green card. So total it's like four years or is that 10 months go into the 3 years? You can apply before youire. Yeah. You can apply for citizenship. So it's not like for green card. It's part passport. Oh yeah. Oh and then they count your green cards. Yes. All of it
4:14 at once. Get your Ralph's card, your driver's license, Costco card, and then just let them come in. Dang. That's that's new to us, too. Michael score. I can't apply to credit card without a credit card. How do I I know. Don't you love that? It's like a game. That's a genius idea. I have to use this credit card. Okay. Mhm. And then the points you get like free money. Yeah. Get to travel. Great. No. Yeah. And um yeah, that's how it is. So, what what status are you at right now? Like premier green card status or like full citizen status? Coach K. We full American. Yeah. Wow. Got the flag. We went through the test. How was it? How was the test? It's pretty easy. We would all fail it by the way. Uh where's the capital of US? So
5:05 there's a hundred questions that you just Washington Seattle, right? You got that one. Like who is your senator like of your state on Santa? Who's on the $5 bill? No, there's none of that. But like the first world war like presidents, president names, the year of war, they could cram for it and it's pretty that's a lot. Yeah. You know in Macau we we are trained to memorize these things. So we're good at training your card counters and so shortterm memory. So I forgot everything. How many years did it take? Huh? How many years did it take to what total to become the American? American. I mean I came so five I think around five. Okay. Yeah. How would you rate the process skill? Difficulty. It's easy. Oh, it's easy. It's easy. Well, I mean, you just have to have the money, you
5:55 know. What do you mean the money to pay for the for your application? You have to pay. That's not guaranteed. Did you have to pay a lawyer to do this? Most people do buy a lawyer, but we I think we just did it our ourselves where we read cuz you got you got lucky cuz most of the time the lawyer will take the money. It didn't go through. I know. Oh. You look like Why do you have a face like it failed? You guys I Googled then they said like um I think it looks better too if you did it by yourself cuz if you're too scared to mess it up cuz like it's like a big thing moving. So it's like if you're really scared to mess it up pretty lawyer like I understand you would use a lawyer. Yeah. You would want to use a I use a lawyer cuz I don't want to mess nothing up. How far along are you guys? How far along? Uh we're waiting for the her her uh green card expired. So we're
6:46 waiting for the permanent one. Okay. So you know it's like year two or three. Actually I think that happened to me like they send you a paper like saying you're inspired and that's your legal green card. Yeah. And then because your ID expires, right? So then the paper Yeah. See when you travel they're telling you to use that with that. I went to Hong Kong with that and they're like like they almost didn't accept me because it was expired. Yeah. We can't travel right now. Yeah. It's crazy cuz and my in-laws were going to Mexico and like uh I wanted to go but I couldn't like they won't accept the paper and I'm like what? This is government paper. Like it's Yeah. Yes. And they're like, "No, you're Filipino. You got to have a visa. You got to have a visa to come in." I'm like, "Yeah." So, we're just waiting. And you you received your green card the first time. It didn't get like missing in the mail. You know, that's a thing. No. Is it It's like It's like a racket. No, they Well, it's a racket
7:38 where they they make a ton of money off getting issued a second one when the first one gets lost. The government's doing it. Yeah. So, that happened that happened to my girlfriend, too, where she got her green card and they and she we read about that and then it happened to her literally. They were like, "Oh, it got lost." So, she had to pay again. Oh my god. We're so lucky then. That's pretty lucky. We were I was so like anxious like the whole time because it's like one thing wrong, they might like not process it. And it also depends on the person that's looking at the paper if they like you. And I did it I did mine in back in Hong Kong cuz Macau, we don't have an American uh consulate, you know. So So you had to go to Hong Kong to go to interview or whatever. Interview. Yeah. Wait, is that before you came to the States? Yeah. So you do the process there for the marriage certific or or what? You did the marriage. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did the 90
8:29 days visa. So 90day fiance. That's cool. I hate that show so much. It's like we're not like that. It's hilarious. I swear we're not like that. Filipino. Can I ask like how much everything was like from beginning to end? Okay. So, the application for green card. Oh, no. Before the 90 the 90 days one though was like $1,000. Wow. Holy ████ And then I had to do the test. I had to do like medical stuff. Yeah. Yeah. That was like another They make sure you don't have syphilis or some ████ Yeah. You have to get a shot. Yeah. They want you to get it here. Yeah. I Yeah. I had to get all the shots in Hong Kong and stuff and then and then come over. Yeah. I think for me it was like 600 to 700 per application like for green card and then another 600 to 700 for like the citizenship. Um but that's
9:20 not guaranteed that you it's a it's a fee to apply. But you might you might get a rejection. Such a rag. You guys know that this whole time there was a hole in the fence down in Mexico and they pay you. Oh my god. And they let you stay in a luxury hotel. You come through that hole, they'll give you a gun. Oh my god. Well, with insurance, but that program ended in February. Oh my gosh. Wait until further notice though. Plus, like you have to uh I think like our like other halves have to prove that they can support us, you know? Oh, sponsorship, right? Didn't you have to do that? Yeah, dude. They look at everything like detail. Yeah. They want to see Well, I think also they want to make sure it's not marriage fraud. So like they want to know you're living together. They want to see photos, proof, everything, family, letters,
10:11 recommendation letters, recommendation. So what how do you I was so scared because my my passport is Brazilian and and I I was going on Reddit like, "Oh, do you get rejected?" And I was like so scared that they would think that you know Brazilian passport comes I don't know I think it has a bad reputation. There are highrisisk countries they call it high risk. Yeah. And so those are because of like criminal activity. No like marriage fraud. Oh marriage fraud. It's good thing I went through Hong Kong cuz Philippines was high risk you know like cuz a lot of Filipinos. Well you said that you grew up in Macau but you're not Macau citizens right? So like how does that work? You're you have p you're you have citizenship to a country you never even like stayed in. Yeah. Cuz uh my mom my mom's Filipino. Filipino citizen. Cuz when they move to Macau they have they can't change their thing or it's hard, right? You guys said it's
11:02 not a birthright. No, it's not a birth. Oh, so you were born in Macau. I I am a Macau citizenship cuz a resident. Sorry. So it's like a green card of or like a permanent Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they didn't have Macau passport until actually recently like when when we were like few years before we left Macau. That's when they have Macau passport. You got to have a Chinese name. Yeah. I tried to apply for it and they're like uh no Chinese name. Yeah. I have to make a Chinese name. Do you have a Chinese name now? No. So you don't have a Macau passport? No. No. I'm still Brazilian passport like and I'm US. It's so hard to be a resident there because you get so much benefits like subsidy every year for $1,000 worth and then if you have a baby just give a thousand bucks from the government. I mean the casino taxes like the government just like free healthcare
11:53 Native Americans with casinos. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it's so hard. So, are you guys So, you guys don't um have access to the the subsidy or the healthcare that I do. What? Because she's a resident, permanent resident, right? Cuz back in the ' 90s, you they would give out uh cards to skilled workers. My parents weren't skilled workers, but her parents My dad is an like engineer like then. So, how does that classify skilled workers? I don't if you have a degree. Oh, okay. I see. All right. It's usually the people that wants to be a resident that knows these things. Are there a lot of Filipino construction workers out there works in the in the in the in the industry? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Isn't that funny? When do you ever see a Filipino construction worker out here in the Hawaii? Hawaii. And I don't really see them out here. They're mainly
12:43 medical field. That's like very normal like in most of Asia. I'm sure most people are construction workers in their home countries. That's true. Mexicans everywhere build everything. Culturally, do you guys vibe? Um cuz you know like the Cantonese culture, it's not PC at all. Like right like if you're fat, they'll just tell you you're fat or whatever. Like um coming from a place where the culture is like that. Do you like the efficiency of communication that's more like that or do you like more America where things are eat around the bush sugarcoated but then no one's feelings get hurt? I mean, I feel like in different scenarios, like for example, like the restaurant culture, right? Like I just go like, "Hey, can I get a check?" You know, that's bring anybody can bring it to you. Yeah.
13:34 They're not going to be like, "Oh, how is your food? How is your dish?" Like there's no You don't have to ask me. It's just like, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Do what you got to do and go. That's true. Cuz over here they'll be like, "Let me get your server." You're like, "You're a server. ████ server." Funny. I didn't know there was a bus boy. like two different Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're asking that guy for stuff like I don't Yeah, I know. Yeah. I was I felt so stupid. I don't speak English either, even though they do. He's telling you in English, but it's almost like the bus boy don't speak English cuz they can't help you with anything or it's like they're not supposed to talk to you. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's weird. Yeah. I'm like, can you ketchup? It's like I mean, small talk also that's that's like a thing here in in Macau. How are you? I'm good. shot. Oh, you really start telling people in detail how you are.
14:26 Eczema's flaring up, you know. I miss my mom. Elevators would be so quiet. It's so funny. I'm not used to it anymore. You if you if you ask them how they are, they're like, I don't know. They miss you like show them your business. The ████ So, how do you get to know a stranger in Macau? Yeah, that's hard. I am going to get to know you. Three, two, one. What's your name? What's that? Hobbies. Tinder. Uh. Oh, yeah. They do. They Yeah. Epsy. Apps. They call it apps. Yeah. Apps. That's funny. Um, so you never It's not normal to just be sitt like if you're just both sitting waiting for a bus or something, you just start talking to somebody, you just look like a crazy person. I know. Yeah. It's It's weird to say that now cuz Yeah. Here they just
15:17 chat you up. Oh my god. Uber eyes. Like I asked for silence like just talk away. But yeah, and um you have to click deafening silence. Yeah. Cuz it's just so hard to like you know come up with stuff to talk about. I'm like do I get deeper than this? I don't know. Like I was like at least with Uber thought about that. Most of the time they want to tell you about them. It's more Lyft than Uber though. It's more lift. It's all the projects they're working on. Interesting. For some reason Lyft is more talkative than real. So interesting. I feel like Ubers are more talkative than me. I only take Ubers. Uber. What other things did you find like kind of off when you were here? Like that you guys don't do in Mac? She's like socially. Socially for real. I'm scared to go to the doctor. They say covered. It's not really covered. No, it's not. It's not
16:07 pay uh a lot more. And I hate how the bill comes after and I can't know how much and they show you how much it cost before. like a thousand. What? A,000 and then now I owe 50. Okay. Someone already told you about that. How you don't have to pay the first bill you get? What? What? You can haggle it. What? Yeah. What? Isn't that crazy? Oh my god. It's so weird. I can't ████ afford this ████ Yeah. You just tell them you can't afford it. And then they go, "What can you afford?" And then they'll think of a different total. No way. Any insurance? Like you talk to the insurance company? Health cover. Medical stuff. Like hospital stuff. All right. Well, that's a hack. Cuz it's good. The first total is enormous. No, cuz yeah, two weeks ago I went to urgent care and then um I had insurance and then they I think it ended up being like 50 bucks or whatever. Yeah. And they're like, "Is that okay?" And so I didn't understand that. Is that
16:57 okay? But now I understand. I guess they're trying to start the haggling process. You down with that? You should have been like, "Hell no, I give you $10." Oh my god. I have no idea. Especially if it's like a really high total. Yeah. It's usually not when you're that $50 kicks in. Yeah. But then she asked me like, "Are you is that okay with you?" It's also for people that don't have insurance, too. So like you go to ER for something, you don't have health insurance, your bill's like $12,000, and you're like, "You just looked at my ████ pinky, but they're going to still build it the way they build insurance people, right? But if you if you know which clinics to go to, like Planned Parenthood or whatever, you just mark that you can't handle it cuz they're subsidized." So that's what people don't know. Like they go, "Yeah, America's expensive." He goes, "Not necessarily. If you know what to do, if you offer to pay, they're not going to correct you. They'll be like, "Okay, we got ourselves a sucker. We got it."
17:48 Depends on what where you go. Cuz there's some that are like government, you know, funded for nonprofit, whatever. It's not always good to do though. It's not like we're not saying every time you get a bill be like, "Ain't going to happen, bud. I don't Oh my god. You know, it's it's a thing that it comes into play when you really can't afford it." Yeah. Oh my god. And it's it's it's really you got to wait till it gets to collections, too. It's like not the lady that gives you the paper. like the collection agent will will some at some point it'll hit a threshold where they're like it's not worth the money to try to get this from you so we're gonna have to agree on a total that we can actually get after they ████ your credit up. Yeah, I'm just kidding. Such a Yeah, America's so uh extrovert like negotiate. We got a lot of bonus games like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. bonus. But don't you have don't aren't Cantonese people always negotiating on like how much this pants cost culture you would go to China you know across the border
18:39 and then uh do the haggling there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. It's true. But not Macau. No haggling. Not as much as Yeah. mainland China. You can't haggle your gambling losses at the table. Sadly no. Imagine they'll keep your eye open. Security guard just come. But on the next video, we ask which uh race smells the weirdest. Wo! Okay. [Applause]
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