0:00 I do think from a future investment point of view, you should start a painting right now that we can hang up. >> Yeah, >> when this ship starts sinking, we're going to need to sell that ████ >> Will we move again? Move back to LA. >> Oh my god, >> that will be so funny if we move back to LA. [Music] >> Welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys. And we got an update because we did a video on this a while ago and we were talking about a lawsuit and a complaint over Nirvana's Never Mind album cover. >> What? Baby remember >> Baby in the Water. Mhm. >> Oh, it was cuz like they thought it was like child abuse or something. >> It was filed by the naked baby. Uh the person who grew up. Yeah. So that kid who was photographed grew up and then complained about it being like a CP kind
0:51 of like >> Oh, like no consent. I couldn't consent. >> The only way everybody knows that's you is if you're always talking about how that's you. >> But by the way, >> no one's gonna recognize it. Are you that baby? You know, like there's >> Wait, you're the baby, aren't you? >> Yeah. >> You got a little dig, dude. >> The real story is he's going through hard times and he needs money. >> Pretty much. >> Yeah, >> usually. >> Yeah. >> But that's the game we can do out here in America, right? Opportunities are right in front of you. You just got to go and take it. >> Who I got to sue here, bro? So I don't have to work. Some of people are actually just living off of being sued. >> Of being sued. >> Be suing. Sorry. >> Suing. >> Oh, see if I could live off being sued, I' I'd probably that'd probably be pretty sweet. >> Be like, "Come sue me. Come sue me." >> You know what I mean? >> But yeah, so basically the dude's name is Spencer Elden. Uh he actually made a second complaint over Nirvana's Never Mind album cover, but it has been
1:42 officially dismissed by the judge. Nirvana's remaining band members have won the CP lawsuit filed by The Naked Baby on the infamous album cover. >> I was going to say, you can't sue them because he's dead, bro. >> Got him. >> The remaining band members. But yeah. >> Oh, >> the rock group's famous album featured a cover of fourmonth-old Spencer Elden swimming naked towards a dollar bill on a fish hook back in '91. His parents received a phone call from photographer Kirk Wed asking if he could photograph their son for a project. The elders who were friends of the photographer agreed and were paid $200 for the image back then. >> Sue your parents for throwing you in the ocean like in the ████ pool. That baby I always looked at the album cover and I was like, "How is that baby breathing?" That's what they do. >> They just throw a baby in the pool like that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They do that a lot. >> So they teach babies how to swim. They
2:33 chuck them in and they teach them how to get on their back. >> Never seen that. You never seen parents just like chucking babies in >> Not without a life vest? No. >> No, dude. That's how they learn. You you did that with Taika? >> Yeah, Taika knew how to >> You threw a bait. You threw Ta in the ████ water like that. >> Not like uh zero to 100, but you train him to get there and he knew how to dive even before he knew how to swim. So I would like put him in the water and pass him to Gio underneath the water and Gio would catch on the other side and he was doing that comfortably before even learning how to swim. >> I didn't even know babies had aquatic ████ natural tendencies like that. My buddy, they took their kid like right away to like get swim training and that little girl just like you throw her in the pool, she just immediately knows how to get on her back and she's totally calm and peaceful about it, too. >> Is it like when you get a dog like a Chihuahua and you put them on top of the pool water and then they start doing
3:23 this like out of nowhere? >> They're actually They're actually more instinctual than adults cuz they lose it. Yeah, cuz they're in water when they're uh as a >> in the >> That's right. But they're also upside down >> and then they lose it. So, it's actually harder to teach adult how to swim. >> Yep. So, you got to expose it to them early so they get comfortable with it and it stays instinctually consistent. >> You're gonna do that with your baby. You're going to throw them in a pool like that. >> You're going to have to come to my house cuz you don't have a pool cuz you went cheap on your house. >> It's true. But I don't know about going to your house cuz I don't know if you take care of that pool. >> I do. Have you seen my pool? You could lick the bottom of my pool, dude. >> You could lick my pool. >> Have you seen your >> uh Yeah, I have seen my front yard. My front yard wins awards by the way, but that's >> the lights are flickering at improper timings. It's Halloween lights. It's Halloween lights. >> You know you have a problem. >> It's not. It's not actually a problem. >> You texted me back. You said you have to look into it. >> We got to watch this. >> I got receipts. I'm Candace Owens on
4:14 this ████ All right. So, again, they got paid 200 bucks for this because the photographer was like, "Hey, this is for a project." I don't think anybody knew at the time that that project was going to turn into a chart topping album that would sell 30 million copies, but that's why he's got 30 million dickpicks out there. Technically, Spencer, who is now in his 30s, claimed the cover violated federal CP laws by displaying a sexualized image of a minor. >> What's sexualized about it? >> Without showing the penis because this is blurred out. This is the exact image. >> You could see the penis in the image. >> Yeah, you can. This one's blurred out, but like that's >> original album. Yeah. >> Oh, I didn't realize that. >> What the heck? >> To me, it just seems like a greedy kid. >> Yo, >> he's willing to risk his life for money. >> The defendants. The defense included surviving Nana members Dave Gro and Chris Navasik.
5:05 >> It's kind of foreshadowing the future. Look at that greedy ass kid. >> Really in the future. That's true. >> ████ chasing that money, dude. >> True. >> Thomas right there. >> Nothing sexual about it. Just >> as well as the late singer Kirk Cobain's widow Courtney Love and Wed. Um, however, the judge dismissed the case on Tuesday, ruling that it was not CP. I told you >> neither the pose, focal point, setting, nor overall context, suggests the album cover features sexually explicit conduct. This image, an image that is most uh anal analogous to a family photo of a new child bathing is plainly insufficient to support a finding of CP. This is like when YouTube demonetized my channel and they're like, "We think people could jerk it to your videos." And I'm like, "Bro, nobody's doing anything sexual in my videos except guys getting their legs
5:55 legs rubbed by other big dudes." Like the porn stars aren't doing anything but holding camera and sound equipment, but YouTube's like, "We think you could jerk it to this stuff." That's literally what >> It's not because of the ladies were topless. >> They weren't topless >> at the topless thingy. >> Oh, at the topless thing. Yeah, they were topless. >> It's not because of that. >> They were doing that because of a political statement. >> So, that one's okay. >> That one's always was okay. Yeah, it was all my Bang Buzz videos are the ones that got me got me taken down. I know >> that is >> Or maybe the word bang bus got >> What's wrong with the bang bus, dude? That sounds normal. >> Sounds like a normal word. >> But that's what I'm saying. So like if >> that's so funny. It's not the titties that that they're like >> It's true. But yeah, if you But if you can like how could you if you're even like a if you're putting on your your hat and you're trying to be like a sexual, you know, what do you call them? >> Pedo. >> The pet the pedo. How do you get there
6:46 with that? >> I don't know. >> I don't think so. >> It looks art. I always thought it was an artistic album cover. >> That was AI. >> He loved money back then. He still loves money now. Yeah. >> Once you put like the actual title to it, too. I mean, it's like you don't you don't really think otherwise. >> It's badass. Honestly, >> you'd probably have a better time if you went like the human approach and like hit up like Dave Gro or whatever like, "Hey, I'm going through some tough times. Remember I did that cover for you? Do you think you could hook me up with the >> Yeah, you go and give my family 200 bucks like and you ████ 200 bucks every single day like >> Yeah. >> Can you give me like a couple bucks? >> Yeah. Give me like 20 G's or something. >> Sign like three guitars for me." >> Yeah. He'd probably be like, "Yeah, sure. I'll help you out." Yeah, but if you go all ████ legal and ████ he's like, "F███ you, dude." >> Yeah, >> that would actually be a sick story. >> He like actually was like, "Yo, you know, like I was having a hard time, so
7:36 I I just asked him to sign some guitars, so if anybody wants to like buy these guitars and help me out, that's like a sick story. He's probably going to get a bunch of money for that cuz he's also the baby from the cover." >> That's what I'm saying. >> I think I think people don't know how to ask for a thing. >> Well, who do you even hit up? How you how you going to get in contact like, "Yo, I'm the baby on your cover." Yeah, I guess I I would probably respond to that one. >> Yeah, you could do it social media wise, too, and just like make a video and like how you're the baby from the cover. >> We're brilliant, guys. >> It's almost like when we were like moving offices in Vegas and then we start auctioning off random junk that we need to get rid of and people actually pay >> paper towel rolls and ████ >> Yeah, like Bart's art. Art. >> Yo, that ████ got that just sold for like a grand. >> That was art though. >> That was Art Quan right there, dude. >> Art Quan. Yeah, >> art. >> Art Quan. >> Wait, you don't believe it? It's art. >> No, I believe it. >> Why are you surprised? >> Nothing. I'm not.
8:27 >> You don't like Bart's art? >> No, I didn't say that. I'm just saying. Wow. Well, Grant, >> I'm a I'm a painter. >> That's very good. >> Very good. >> Have you painted one time since then? >> Finished. >> Jeez, that's more of an art. >> Have you painted one time since that painting? >> No. >> Yeah. >> So, I retired, too. >> So, it's pretty good. It's like, hey, dude, I never sold a painting for a grand. Good for you. >> Last painting I ever did. >> But that is art, though. There was meaning behind it >> and it was a decision not to complete it. Yeah. >> I did write in the eBay description though is you can officially collaborate with Bart. >> Yeah. Anytime you want >> by finishing the when you by finishing the black parts. >> That makes sense. >> So then now they could bust out the paint and then like they could fill in the the black part and be like I collaborated with Bart. >> That's pretty sad. But they they probably devalued it after they so they bought it and then they added the the
9:18 the black ink parts. >> They don't add penises and stuff there. >> Sure hope not. That would be really terrible. That'd be real bad to see. >> I do think from a future investment point of view, you should start a painting right now that we can hang up. >> Yeah, >> when this ship starts sinking, we're going to need to sell that ████ Will >> we move again and move back to LA? >> Oh my god, that will be so funny if we move back to LA. Not going to happen. >> No, I would never go back. I don't want to do any more businesses in California after what that ████ ████ happened. We're just barely done paying it off. >> But that experience just made me feel like ████ California so hard, dude. My other buddy just got ████ tagged with that ████ It's crazy. He He doesn't even He doesn't have any employees.
10:08 >> It's even worse. No, but then he like he he provides a service like graphic design and ████ like that and they're saying that all of his clients are employees. >> What the ████ >> What the hell? >> And I'm like, how does that even work? Like >> they're paying him. >> I love having like a maid service coming into the office, a service that you pay, and they go, "Those are also your employees." >> They're just out to lunch. >> You know why is because we paid an individual. >> Oh. So they don't have a company name. >> Oh, got it. >> Cuz like it's some Chinese dude that's like I just do this service. >> Got it. >> So like we have paperwork. We have proof that it's like we have a contract with this guy. He sends us invoices. Whatever. >> But that doesn't even work. He's like, "Nope." >> Silly, >> dude. That's where I was like, I don't I
10:58 don't I don't know, man. I I don't think I ever want to do business ever again. Ever again. No more. I'm surprised that they're going after you for like the contract thing, calling them employees when like I mean you got like three employees right here. >> You guys are an employee. >> Don't you guys save hell of money but being here anyways, right? >> Yeah. On the taxes. >> Yeah. On the taxes end. Yeah. >> On everything. >> That's why I'm saying I never want to open up another business in California ever again. >> Ever. Ever. It's just crazy. >> I don't even know why I'm there. >> That's why I keep telling you, >> bro. H. You need to serve the Nevada National Guard. >> Yeah. Can you like specifically request the transfer over to Nevada? >> Yep. >> Your boot camp's in California? >> No, they do the Army boot camp. >> How much do your parents help with with kiddo? >> So little. It's only my mom. >> So then you should punish them by moving to Nevada.
11:48 >> I will. >> You should. >> Well, we will >> make a statement. >> We might even go to Florida. >> That's too far. We don't get to see you. >> Yeah, you're right. I don't want to be in Florida, though. >> Nevada is also very veteran friendly, too. Mhm.
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