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Off The Record: Getting to Know Trung Nguyen (Part 3)

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0:00 over the years they get jaded they don't think that it's going to happen to them but that's when things turns divorce when you don't think it's going to happen to you and I've seen it too many times so what do you think of like those fat cops that look at you and go hey me and you the same guy [Music] welcome back to the third installment of this careful Boys episode featuring trong when hey thank you guys we um if you guys have been following along the first two we are now getting to the point where uh Trung enters SWAT Chicago SWAT what was it like to get into that it was another selection too uh you couldn't try out until you did three years as a police officer so you have to do mandatory three years they didn't even count your time in a L.A ████ they

0:51 don't care they're like so that's La policing we do Chicago policing different yep is it because it's like every state has different laws so you have to learn the stuff from each state you know honestly when you get into that level of like trying out for SWAT I I really think like if you are prior military and stuff like all that should be waived because you kind of already have like a kind of understanding of what is needed for that type of small unit yeah you know environment but Chicago being the Chicago way they wouldn't wave it they don't give a ████ I know there's certain departments that would it they find out that your prior service especially if your prior Special Operations they'll waive that time frame you're like yeah let's get this guy in Illinois State Police does that uh and they and their whole training regimen was made from a Delta Force guy so they they hired a Delta Force guy to come in

1:41 to oversee their Pipeline and that's one of their their requirements like hey if your prior to Special Operations we're waving your ████ uh Highway time you can ████ try out six months yeah it's almost like a waste of time just yeah push more incentive for them because they want the better guys in doing those jobs yeah yeah I I couldn't join until year five because when I joined at that time they were testing every three years so by the time they test around I was only I only had two years in right damn so I literally have to wait an extra ████ three years so year five into Chicago was when I was able to get my shot at it what was their selection like uh you know their selection was was like a TV show or the movie yeah yeah you know they got a swim swim test they got a heightened heightened confinement test and you know they got a rifle school they had an obstacle course

2:32 they got a uh you got to do two pull-ups with a 25 pound vast stuff like that like their own little selection in there dude yeah our class at the time when they open it up again there was about a hundred seventy five cops and out of there we got they got like 12 12 of us the others just didn't make it yeah they felt that either the pistol test they felt either rifle school they either failed the swim test you know they we start losing people but the most of the time that we lost was during the tactic phase like when you start entering like and how to take a room how to do all that stuff what do they do Friendly Fire stuff yeah so stand right there under such a face what's the well yeah what is the common weight of like that you saw people failing the tactics

3:22 um they were not processing the room correctly because under stress and under chaos it's either you can think through it or you can't some people lock up they they they don't do their movement correctly they don't hit their points of domination and if you guys know what points of domination is is if you're entering a room you want to build an L-shaped fighting position towards an enemy so if this was the bad guy that we're going after and this l-shape has been used all the way back since Alexander the Great that's how he conquered so many ████ countries was he'll push his initial troops head on then he'll have another additional troops come and Molly ████ them from the side so you know how it's like that whole L-shaped Ambush so from that tactic alone he was able to conquer pretty much all of ████ Asia back

4:13 then like that you know so it's still used to this day and how that works so well is our mind we're not John Wick like the movie right you're not able to process multiple people at once and be like tell me that's fake oh my God it's it's so real so what do you want what do you watch the movies like I know it's like fun as entertainment but do you like just go like oh my god dude yeah a lot of it's like you know just for like you know entertainment purposes yeah you never shot someone like this yeah I shot someone like this oh wow oh ████ that's a dance right between the Boston yes no but yeah so for example let's say if I enter this room which oh Colleen if somebody enters this room your first initial process is to to track him or

5:04 her correct yeah that's gonna be your focus your focus and the other person is going to go the opposite side so now you have to pick one oh okay I mean you can't be like Boom at the same time you know you're gonna yeah you have to is that called flanking I thought flanking from the back yeah flank is from the from the side or from the back right okay this is more like hey overloading their sensory uh overloading their ooda Loop because you're having multiple people enter the room one side the other side so they're like what the ████ it's like whack them off so yeah so you have to process right and that's and that's the thing that people don't understand how do you win a gunfight the person who who can out process the other person wow is who's going to be the one who wins so how does that work I see you my brain recognize you as a threat I pull my gun out I shoot that is the whole processing system now if I can out process you by

5:56 the time you want to shoot me my buddy already shot you because by the time I decided who I wanted to shoot it's too late it's too ████ late do regular cops also do that when they're trying to like apprehend like a crazy guy that's like it really depends on the police department on their training level some are better trained than others but they would try to build an L shape or they will try to build something called a uh V you know what I mean so it'll be like the dudes here I'm here you're here so now we're talking to this individual now he has to concentrate on one of us and if he's like resisting arrest or he doesn't want to go to ████ jail one of us got to be the less lethal officer right get the taser ready get the mace ready so this guy's talking to him hey put your hand behind your back so he's occupying him he's like no I'm going to ████ jail and he starts to approach my partner with bald fist that falls

6:47 under the the law of my news of force then I can use my Taser and taser and whatnot so how is it uh once you finally get selected first one what's the first thing they do like not like hey you're in you're a new ████ guy again oh yeah you're a ████ new guy you carry the breaching equipment you're doing all the ████ work you're getting the Bearcat ready you're doing all that you know learning learning the ropes driving the Bearcat that's the first thing you do as a a SWAT dude you think like oh I made SWAT I get to kick indoors no you're driving the ████ barricade is the Bearcat the big vehicle that's like armored yep and the reason why is like they want you to learn the streets they want you to see how their team does the hit on the house so the the getting the Bearcat to the right house is very important do you

7:37 stay in the car you have to stay in the car you have to stay in the Bearcat you're the ████ new guy hey move the Bearcat up a little bit because there's a guy up there with the with a rifle right I get him give me that position move it up a little bit turn the spotlight towards these windows you know and stuff like that so with with your experience as Special Operations when you got to the SWAT team where would you say your Tactical expertise was is it closer to the top or in like in the middle was like everyone's special ops in there no a lot of guys were just regular guys regular cops regular civilians that worked their way up yeah work their way up so you don't have to be prior military to join the SWAT team you just got to have that mindset and be able to process and think under stress if you're able to do all that then you have a good chance of making the team so even you as a special ops vet they didn't give you any special treatment at

8:27 all they weren't like wow yeah they were fanboying like yeah I was getting uh ████ talked on more because you know at that time I had my Instagram page and they're like oh this guy coming in blah blah you know it's Instagram page blah blah blah blah blah you know just you know there's clicks inside trust me it's not what you think it is it's not thinking uh 65 guys on the SWAT team everybody's ████ brother love each other no it's none of that ████ there's Clicks in there too there's people who stick together people will talk ████ there's it's like that man and I just gotta shut the ████ up my first couple years I I came in there I act like a ████ new guy I didn't come in there with any chip even though I trained constantly for that five years going to outside schools on my own dime to keep my skills sharp damn and I and it shows like and I tell

9:19 people if you want something no matter what profession it is if you practice you learn you keep that skill set and by the time you get there you'll crush it and I and I crush the whole ████ thing because I prepared nice you know what I mean there's there's people who didn't prepare who just showed up the next day oh yeah I'm gonna try for swine they ████ fail right away yeah what do you think you know what I mean like you gotta prepare man the test shouldn't be your practice and probably early on there's like there's like almost uh like a stigma for social media in like a very high testosterone place because I was in the reserves when I was first doing our JK stuff yeah and everyone's like what the ████ the whole time yeah it's like what is this the f word

10:10 doing on social media all the time yeah yeah that's so true yeah that's very true I mean I think police departments they miss an opportunity with like you know certain individuals if they if you're representing the police force in a positive light you're actually a better recruiter than the actual ████ recruiters same thing for the Army like there are so many people DM me like hey man thanks to you I joined the military you know what I mean I we are we are the recruiters for the ████ recruiters because they see what you did like oh my God they're explaining to you yeah they're like Bart was a ████ he was in the Marines he did this look who he's doing a bear hat now look at this gay guy he did it was there anything like coming from your

11:00 background of special ops was there any missions that you went on as SWAT that you even you were like whoa that was pretty crazy it's just different rules of engagement you know like in in the military it was it was a lot different than here here it's like now you're in the end you aren't swapping you're still a cop you know I mean you're you're a cop you have to follow the literal law you have to follow the use of force continuum I can't just go in there and just because somebody has a knife in there like 10 feet away from me I can't just shoot him in the face though you know overseas is different yeah yeah you know what I mean so yeah dude yeah I mean dude I remember one Squad call we came we had a long night last night we went out and um my sergeant was like man I'm ████ tired let's comb in here do some PT we'll hang out in the ████ office and when the next crew comes in

11:50 we'll get the ████ out here a SWAT it was like zero five in the morning a SWAT job kicked off about this crazy lady uh her son just recently got shot right and he died and she just went bat ████ oh so dude she went she stripped butt naked she had a pickaxe a little little ████ pickaxe right and so we rolled on scene I'm like looking at this lady through her window she's there butt naked with this ████ pickaxe and really I'm like God damn it what's the protocol Yeah man so we try to talk her out of it man you know we understand what's going on you know try to do all this talk back for it went on for hours it got to a point where the talking doesn't work anymore yeah and she got like you know she's like ████ this ████ I'm gonna ████ go downstairs I'm gonna blow this ████ house up so you know she turned on the ████ gas and ████ like that we're like ████ we got to go in now so we made

12:41 we made entry and she went down to the ████ basement and dude this house was the most disgusting ████ house I've ever been in uh she threw dog ████ because she let her dog ████ in the basement for God knows how long because she was lobbing dog ████ up at us I mean not not just one lob of dog ████ I'm talking about like continuous unlimited ammo so dude we we ████ told the tag team to come in there hey here's a ████ Shield block her I'm gonna go out I'm gonna go in the back yeah so that's what I did so she was distracted lobbing ████ at this ████ dude right and I went through I snuck through the ████ back and I had a taser I said hey I had my I had my button give me your ████ taser because the back door was open we reached the back door wow so I crept through the back door and I opened the back door and then she at that time she

13:31 I saw her last dog ████ that she grabbed the ████ uh pickaxe and she started whacking the ████ furnace right I'm like oh my God I'm gonna have to tase this lady right now so I snucked in I had the perfect ████ shot the ████ two lasers one was at her titty and one was at her uh ████ ribs I was like dude she's gonna go down I shot it it went Jesus she looked at it she went she ripped it off I was like I was like oh my God not enough batteries I was like didn't here's the thing people think was she high on the adrenaline that's adrenaline adrenaline and some people are not affected by tasers because you guys gotta understand that tasers don't work 100 of the time they probably work like 40 of the time right really yeah same thing with mace there's guys there's people there were people in my Academy

14:21 class when we have to get mace right yeah some of them took it like nothing like like oh yeah right now they're like me dude I was dying my eyes are small I gotta even ████ smaller I love oh my god dude it burned the ████ out of me same well come to this story I taste it our taser that we have was uh we had two cartridges it was it was a newer model because the older one only had one so I shot her the first time I thought I was like dude she's gonna ████ fall it's gonna be awesome I'm gonna come in and cover I shot her she didn't go down I was like oh my God so I was like ████ so I I get ready to shoot her again and here comes my buddy with the ████ Shield he smashes her against the wall she's trying to pull off his ████ helmet right then um she somehow finagle her way out of the ████ Shield I

15:11 shatter her again this time on her other titty but it hit her this on this side yeah this time it incapacitator longer enough for us to come and put cuffs on her yeah but but the whole ████ time there's dog ████ all over the floor she's trying to ████ bite me I was like oh my God this is this is insane it was it's different man being on suise like you think it's just you're going after drug dealers uh cartel no man a lot of time you're dealing with ████ crazy crazy mentals and that's what most of the time you were dealing with wasn't that people with mental illness and we would just have to sit out there for hours we'll lock down the building we'll sit out there negotiator X come and talk and they'll talk their ear off of that in the you know that individual hey you need to surrender hey surrender you know you shouldn't do that so what's your take on because now that I know that what it seeing how hard it is

16:02 already for SWAT people to deal with mental issues what's your take on people that go no sentimental health professional instead of cops yeah it's kind of a dumb thing no it happened once in uh this one District that well it's the 24th district and they sent this uh Aid workers social social workers to talk to this lady then she had two boiling pots to watch like the ████ out I'm gonna blow this I'm gonna ████ pour this ████ on them they're like call swad call the cop yeah that's exactly what I imagined every time oh like you're not prepared for that bro and it's different and we we can't just go in there and just kick in the door and as much as we love to just to you know end this we can't you know yeah I that call right there we sat out there for 16 hours dude wow overtime baby [Laughter]

16:56 bro I'm ready to go home go home bro this is like I'm exhausted did you get lunch break yeah you got lunch break so answer so on on the teams they they'll buy like a bag of ████ uh cheeseburgers from McDonald's okay so that's what we eat that's pretty cool you guys take turns yeah take turns so it sucks are you still with the department now or no so now he has his own brand we go home and so maybe you could talk a little bit about about that and what it's about yeah so I started we go home when I joined I joined the military um really happened during my first appointment overseas uh I realized like hey man you know when you train with your guys from your left and right every single day you bleed with them you know you laugh with them you know you you go through all the the ████ with them

17:47 and you're overseas it's we didn't we didn't care about what was going on back home in terms of like the politician the politics the government we I the only thing I gave a ████ about was my brothers to my left and right to make sure that they get home to their friends and family because that's who I I met back back then when we were over the Stateside you know we got I got to meet their kids I got to meet their wives we hung out we barbecued we became a family yeah so we go home really start from there and it branched it it branched out to the milk from the military to my time in the police department you know uh hanging out with my partner in my squad car I got to meet his or her family you know and it got to the point where it's just like hey it's not about me it's about those whom I left and right and I'm gonna do everything in my power and that's the message we're trying to push to the people who are in the fire department in the police force in the

18:39 military that hey when you raise your right hand you're signing a blank check right you don't know when it's not your typical nine to five where you just clock in go to work you might get b██████ at by your boss but at least you know you could get home at the end of the day when you do this type of job the day you the day that you walk out you might not come back and I've seen it happen so many times and I'll show you one last story because it's so ████ true so that's what we go home is based on you have to be physically fit mentally sharp and and hone your skill set because it's not about you it's about those here left and right you got to bring your brothers and sisters home and the citizens that you swore to protect so we so we started this movement so that we can get these uh police officers that don't train often you get them back into the mindset hey your uniform is not enough

19:29 it might be enough for us people who obey you but when you go against somebody who doesn't obey you what's going to happen if you don't take Jiu Jitsu if you don't do PT if you eat like a piece of ████ now you're fighting for your life I bet you're that moment right there you wish you had some kind of training right that goes back to the foundation of preparation yes and being in that moment and I'll show you my last story on SWAT that was really effective uh we had an active shooter that happened at the Mercy Hospital in in Chicago so there was a doctor working that ER she got into a domestic with her uh fiancee she wanted to break up with him so he's like okay let's break up meet me out in in the front give me back my ring so he called her she came out from the ER she you know wherever they had a discussion she gave back her ring

20:20 and he pulled out a pistol he killed it right there he smoked her then he ████ showing the camera he stood in front of her body then Cops car started coming he started shooting at the cops car then he ran inside the hospital and he shot these two uh I don't know if their nurse or they worked I know they worked there they were just getting out of the elevator and he shot one of them dead and he shot then he turned the gun there's a there was an officer there there named officer Jimenez he only had like a couple years on the job he was either dropping off a prisoner or doing some kind of uh paperwork for the district that you work in District is divisions or you know whatever Police Department you're in you're at and he hurt the gunfire so him and you know our team started

21:10 responding to that ████ call and they were following the trail of the gunfire and they got to a point where it was like a T intersection so it's like a t like so it's a hallway that leads to another hallway and that shooter was behind uh on the opposite side and one of my team members he was a sniper and officer of men as bound across to to the next cover and cover is a place as a cover it means uh if this if this wall is concrete that's covered that means that rounds can't hit it so they're bounding to the next area of cover and as they were bounding one of the rounds that dude stuck the gun around and shot and one of the rounds hit officer Jimenez riding a juggler and he bled and died that at that very moment in the hospital and I guarantee you when he woke up that

22:01 morning before he put on a uniform the last thing he thought it was he's going to die in that hospital or in in the hospital especially so doing paperwork in the hospital like you don't think you know yeah you never know yeah so and then so like we go home is to encourage and it's a fitness program and then like a like a nutrition division yeah yeah so we do all that Fitness we sell apparel and stuff like that I see uh we're just trying to push the message for the community to stay sharp to to be better than you were yesterday because it's you're it's not you can't be selfish once you raise your right hand it's no longer you it's about everybody else you're you're now called for a higher purpose you better live up you better live up to that and that's what our message is about live up to that oath that you swore

22:51 be be that person when you raise your right hand when your Bright Eyes bushy rookie recruit whatever you were remember that don't lose that because a lot of people lose that yeah over the years they get jaded they don't think that it's going to happen in them but that's when things turns to worse when you don't think it's going to happen to you and I've seen this too many times so what do you think of like those fat cops that look at you and go hey me and you the same guys hahaha yeah it's disheartening you know is it is it because after like Boot Camp or whatever for like the academy you don't have to do a physical fitness test so they can get big or because yeah I always wondered that when there was a when there's like there's so many videos where they can't keep up when they're chasing somebody or yeah falling and but

23:42 then you have to do like some sort of like renewal process yeah there should be a standard yeah in in the Chicago Police Department you get paid 350 to take a a physical fitness test every year and it's like 20 minutes of your life oh you know uh bench press 95 for men bench press 95 of your weight and they have a ████ machine it's not even ████ free weights wow touch your ████ you know the toe tone reach thing do do 40 sit-ups and run a mile and a half sounds like bare minimum High School like PE class yeah the standards is not that high in the police department and that's a damn shame especially for what's going on out there absolutely I want the best ████ cops to show up when I call 9-1-1 yeah oh yeah you know I don't want some fat

24:32 ████ who just finished eating from goddamn uh Burger King or something show up to my ████ odd sloppy uniform all ████ up because there was many of them in the Chicago Police Department unfortunately yeah there's many of them here yeah we got lots of those I mean even worse yeah way worse a bunch of guys shaved head sorry Nick not you but I mean no just a bunch of LAPD dudes like they don't know what they're doing half the time like all the videos it's it's it's hard now man I'll be honest like now being being a police officer is a lot harder than it was a decade it's a different game it's a different ball field no one wants to be a cop anymore yeah they're hurting so bad for police officers everywhere because you know of they don't want to be the next YouTube sensation they don't want to get suede they don't want to be called racist they don't want to be called this and that you know because they're kind of like

25:23 counterproductive though because now you're lowering Enders just to get people oh 100 lower understands like Chicago now doing the complete opposite of actually having the proper people in the positions that are supposed to uphold they're scraping the barrel now they're they're they're starting like they're starting to see because here's the thing if I'm intelligent and I'm physically fit and I see what the ████ going on in the police department where I'm like I'm joining the three-letter agency because you never see anything about FBI CIA you don't see them under the microscope right you only see police departments they're like ah no big brother right because the Epic if the cops do something bad the FBI comes and investigates who investigates the FBI so yeah guys check out um you'll find trunk socials in the in

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