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Off The Record: Why Are Asians So Non-Confrontational ?

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0:00 everyone says no to new things when everything's going right oh yeah true they go why don't you do anything do something yeah think about 9911 right [Music] 911 all right everybody Welcome to a zany episode of the careful boys where today we got Matt Kim here with us y'all the truth on Instagram I'm surprised you don't get your account taken away just yet do you know I have never got a strike or a fact check on Instagram before that's you know why let's go you understand how to balance that tight RPP where you're giving out information but you're not so crazy to the point where like they're like what the ████ this crazy ass Looney tun

0:50 saying random ████ for no reason yeah which I think is pretty nice never no fact checks no Community notes and I'm like especially when I do the short clips like very specific with my words like every word is intentional do you write a script yeah I do write it so what I do is I have a thought and then I jot down notes because otherwise I can get long-winded and I just kind of talk and I L scripted dude you're not freeth thinking he thinks free but he organized speeches well cuz you want to have every word intentional and have meanings and kind of consum consumable so if I don't have a script then I'll just kind of rant on and it could end up a seven minute thing which I can do in a minute and a half when I saw your Tucker Carlson interview that first little intro of you explaining it it just made me want

1:40 ████ cuz it was so well written and spoken I was like this ████ smart I don't know I don't know if we have anything to say to talk to you about I was like I don't know if I could relate to anything but you know I just you could tell like you put a lot of time and effort in your work and I was like I got to read more it yeah it is tough because we are scripted here everything everything scripted here I've been here for 4 hours now SC my teleprompter sometimes messes up and they make me say weird stuff about 911 I can't read that well so they make sure everything I say is like real short real short lines so I want to I want to talk about something interesting that's been popping up in our conversations and I think we can do a whole entire video on it a video but um there's not a lot of I want to say like Asians in this space that are outspoken and challenging the status quo

2:32 the powers that be and all that when you say the space do you mean social media or you mean politics or both yeah in general in general like there have been activist groups in the past there's you know but in general as I think a culture we don't really come out you know what I mean like and I'm I I've been kind of doing a lot of thinking about that and I'm just wondering you know since we have Matt here who's who's a pretty big voice on challenging different narratives and things like that and speaking openly like what his take might be on and what your guys's take might be on why that is and if you guys even observe the same thing yeah I think there are plenty of Asians that are anti-establishment that are freeth thinkers that question their I think they exist I think that the algorithm

3:23 and kind of the powers that be that control who gets popular and who doesn't I think that they don't amplify those voices so I don't think it's a matter of that we as those type of people don't exist is that we don't get the exposure like Shadow band like Shadow band that's a real thing that's definitely a real thing do you think culturally though we're like cuz I don't hear Asians just straight yelling at the movie screen at a theater you know what I'm saying so we have to change that now other than him yeah so I wonder if culturally if we are like maybe like less not antagonistic but expressive I think we're less confrontational like so for example right like um Hannah who is my wife brought up a good point hi Hannah she so you know Europe UK even France they go

4:17 hard when they protest like recently there's the whole farmer ████ going on French farmers were dumping manure and hay all over the ████ government like they raise hell right and I noticed that like in um predominantly Asian places like let's say Hawaii right there's rampant corruption and things and people are happy with the government but you don't really see this people raging out and ████ going in taking it to the streets going into like City Hall yelling fighting it's not done like that like the fights don't happen face to face they happen like covertly I think that's how Asians operate that's the way that they fight but then you know there's been crazy things like people are mad at the the the rails that they they fu ████ up in Hawaii they spent 12 billion had a

5:08 s█████ rail uh they have all these issues but you don't really see people coming out and ████ ████ up whereas like she was like yeah in the UK let's say the citizens don't like all these cameras and and these like these red light ticket cameras they'll just go in and start breaking them out so they'll just cut them off start throwing it and TI there's a lot of like vandalism defacing prop fighting with cops there's a lot of like inyou face type of uh like protesting I guess even in that example though like the people in Hawaii with that Rail and stuff are they doing anything about it though NOP absolutely nothing I mean people are like commenting negatively but are like are like other people like taking action some people are trying to audit the government and say what happened why did you spend too much money here like but nothing to the

5:58 effect of like are you really that that mad cuz I got understand if if somebody's taking an action that maybe is presumably a logical approach to actually doing something versus just like defacing public property that you happen to live in that Community as well cuz that could be seen as impulsive yeah I think Asians have better impulse control yeah true but you see both in in Western like in the way that white folks would do it you'd have the politicians and the guys coming in in the you know in the ████ meetings yelling fighting debating whatever and then you also have the guys on the streets ████ breaking ████ up and whatever it's like two fronts right where I don't really see that in Asian Community even in Asia you rarely see that ████ I mean we all remember like tinam Square massacre type stuff how long ago was that you know like I mean but it's still what about the Hong Kong and Taiwan protests oh

6:49 yeah yeah see that was a pretty gangster they're getting jacked up over there I'm not saying it doesn't happen but like France be on strike every ████ month you know what I mean like the way they go hard I also think at least from uh maybe my own perspective or like just the way I was raised and kind of like the advice that I hear a lot of older Asians like generally have it feels like our culture's priorities are more about like what's Pro what's productive mhm yeah so like I know I remember a lot of like in the 80s and '90s we first saw the first wave of a ton of Asians um working their way up and like uh becoming senators or becoming like police Chiefs or in the Army and stuff and it was almost like oh you don't like it then join it and change it you know it's like a very productive culture very

7:39 long game too yeah so I think for a lot of Asians it's like why throw manure on the lawn cuz we got to clean it up anyways you know so it's like a very like is that productive and it just felt like um it's really easy for a bunch of Asians to get together and then go what's the like the the easiest way to go from point A to point B cuz we need to get to point B we can fight a lot but we're still going to be far from point B so like how do we you know like just get to Point the only time we fight is fight over the bill at a restaurant actually they yeah they will fight the death but otherwise it's like whatever you want man let's do it okay okay sign just sign it okay and okay cool then boom they move on to like the next thing it feels like I think if the um propagandist tell entire Asian-American culture that hey the the

8:29 rest of society doesn't want you here that you don't belong people inherently think man like I don't really make a difference and because I don't make a difference why should I try why should I put my neck on the line for other people when they're telling me that I don't belong here that I'm the outcast here and I think that's what really makes people kind of hesitate before they move but if you think about things like in '92 during the LA Riot and the rooftop Koreans mhm that impacted their homes and as soon as there was an issue that came to their doorstep they stood up they stood on the rooftops and it's like no like this ████ ain't happening you know so I think it's because asian-americans specifically don't feel like these issues impact them and not only does it not impact them but that they can't make a difference why fight in someone else's battles that's what they've been taught and that's what

9:19 they're constantly told I think that's a good point it's like why stick your neck out protest and fight if this is not my problem but once people realize that no like all these problems or all of our problems then you're going to start seeing people mobilize I think it's also a lack of leadership we don't have Asian-American leaders that stand up against the system they don't exist yeah that's true who's the most famous like Asian American leader that we know Andre Yang that guy was like a most of them conform too most of them you know what I mean the pro yeah you're right the most prominent Asians are conformists they're like I barely got here man I ain't trying to make too much noise I don't want to cause any trouble I barely got to Hollywood just let me chill there is that whole lingering thing I don't know how many generations this lasts for but with immigrants in general when they get to a new country

10:10 it is very much like keep your head down and just Thrive don't ruffle feathers you're doing all right don't ████ it up this is like what Jesus always says about Mexicans like they're like no don't participate in anything yeah yeah yeah yeah stop trying to get trophies at school that's a good point think about like my messaging for my parents growing up it was the same thing like I think in my head I have to fight that that uh my default is to like just shut up Let it pass it's fine like my default is to be a little more passive so I do have to fight a little bit more and like check myself to be like no you should speak up you should say what's on your mind a little bit more or I guess in my head like that's the battle that I'm kind of fighting but I do relate to that a little bit more and perhaps there just a historical like element of self-preservation that makes sense in that you know what I mean whether it's from like our parents Nations that being

11:00 like quiet and like being able to just you know get by because you will get ████ up by the government if you like Rebel or anything yeah if you get if you stick out they'll just execute you yeah so it's like maybe there's like a level of self you know preservation that is just being like hey just you can kill it without needing to make any noise or like to do anything like that like there's a tactical approach I think in a long game where it's like if you don't like the system then you can covertly insert yourself in it and eventually you're part of it and you can change From the Inside Out versus going to a protest and shouting at a cop I mean that's not really accomplishing that's actually an agreement that the Japanese American Community had like that's what I was taught like in the internment camps when they were like how the ████ did this happen what did we do wrong and the consensus was uh oh we're probably not American enough or we're probably

11:51 not like you know they don't trust us so what we have to do now is we need to move into white neighborhoods let them know we're friendly let them know we're okay and then now we have to push our kids to become politicians U military and all that and that's why hella Senators hella or like people of a Japanese American background were the first Asians to be deep into government like the one of the first Asian-American generals Japanese all that stuff because uh it was that method that Bart was talking about the long game instead of we got out of the concentration cab now it's time to March and ████ and throw rocks at uh glass and you know destroy neighborhoods it it was the opposite approach of now we have to go so far deep that they can't even send us to camps and our kids to camps anymore a

12:41 lot of the real estate Moguls too that are Asian that you meet now and they're like they're like oh like how did you get your start cuz everyone thinks oh ████ he's like a millionaire goes no I just wanted to like our our people wanted to buy homes they wouldn't sell it to our people so I became a real estate agent to sell it to our people so we can have own and it just end up being lucrative but it wasn't like I'm going to be a multimillionaire and it was just like a lot of people just finding what's the most productive thing to do in the situation the problem is that a lot of these people who Maybe started with good intentions that like Hey we're playing the long game and we're going to get involved and we're going to get within the system and we're going to enact change they get into the system they're like dude it's really nice in here hell yeah it is like this establishment stuff this is pretty awesome and then they kind of sell out their people and that's the hardest part of it right because the people that you trust and we we as the

13:31 people help push them into these roles and as soon as they get there they forget about us yeah you know and they're there pushing this crazy ████ that we don't agree with like no that's not what we put you in there for we put you in there to speak on our behalf not speak to us on their behalf it's like an undercover cop who starts to actually become a Hell's Angel exactly they just flip on us so fast it's a huge lack of leadership on the part of the Asian-American culture like who are your role models growing up asan Role Models yeah Bruce Lee Bruce Lee Jackie Chan like that was it f the Man People yeah Bruce Lee was pretty uh he was rebellious I mean he was but name one he died for it name one thought leader yeah growing up someone that taught you like hey I can question I can think differently confucious appable thought leader you know like Bruce Lee is like

14:21 be like what I'm like okay but what about taxes and yeah bro how do I be like water taxes Bruce was Bruce was for the Asians in like white culture for sure it was a different fight at the time right but then now after that it's like like you said who do we have yeah who do you have who do you have now who's the closest in your opinion Matt K baby I I don't know of one which is the craziest part right there are no real thought leaders in like developing and innovating you're right and there are so many smart agents how come there's no one in the Forefront leading that charge right like someone that we can relate to like it doesn't exist they want to cause trouble you know the only that's funny the only reason why yeah most of the people that I can think of came from an older era like Civil Rights era even some like on the left like like far left like marxists and and all that because I think they they found

15:12 a space where they can actually speak back then in that space like so nothing um came from a more independent Western thought so so man maybe that that's probably why they're more compliant and more um of that kind of school of thought too you know what something else that that I just thought of right now that could be true I think also um Asian the culture in general I don't think we have a big victimhood mentality so as soon as a problem hits bro I don't know man that stop Asian hate went hard do you think that's a newer phenomen yeah no that that's a newer pH but I feel like a lot of people are immediately like what can I do to change my situation versus like rah rah rah scream scream scream help me help me help me I feel like a lot of Asians are just immediately like okay what's the next

16:02 move what's the next move what's the next except for yes when the Asian hate stuff well first they piled on to the BLM like how many Asians were on the BLM bandwagon and I've got I hated those ████ I got so many messages from people like agent people saying man I can't believe I was at the BLM rallies I got so many of those because they're like I went to one rally but it was dope to get out of my apartment cuz we were on lock down it was nice walking around yeah I went to one I was eating a ████ bacon hot dog and I was like yeah cuz and for for that moment ideals did align with things that made sense well we didn't know it was a con back then it made sense at the time but then when people like well all lives matter like oh that's racist like is it it's like isn't that isn't that a bigger message than that message and then all of a sudden stop agent hate became a huge thing and then now everyone's playing the stop agent hate victim card and that became a huge I didn't like

16:52 that at all so it was just like this Evolution where they brought you in with hey like the blacks are having a problem so let's align with them and then you know what you guys were really supportive let's give you your own and they're like yes stop Asian everyone had the sticker on every single Facebook profile had stop Asian ha in it not Ryan he didn't do it we used to do Patrols in the area we did he said don't beat us up don't beat us up and the reality is that the only place in the country that Asians are getting targeted are like the areas that are promoting LM and stop Asian a yeah there is no Asian violence in Middle America in the South like it doesn't exist well they made it's only in like New York La San Francisco in these areas that are like you have to believe it

17:42 it's like that's so weird I don't think it was actually a racism issue and when you look at it it was a lot of uh four-time felons that are being released schizophrenics there's mental like what do you call it mentally Disturbed people that should have been helped that are out there just punching random people so it's like they made it this like whole it's driven by hate towards Asians CU of Corona virus and and this and I was like dude you didn't even really look into the stats and who's doing this and then the people behind it and in all the videos they're all done by crazy folks mhm it's not people of sound mind that are just like look at this T over here sniper on a roof no they're like probably thinking this Asian grandma is like a demon that they need to destroy

18:34 and I was like how are people so ████ delusional it also might have been like you know it was a Melting Pot of just a bunch of wild ████ going on at the same time but there was also that narrative too that like you know we were the white adjacent minority that was always trying to comply and stuff and you know when there was a moment where it was either like Bart was saying earlier like Beyond this BLM train or or you're against it you know what I mean actively it was very polarized at the time if if you're not in support for everything that you know black culture has done then you are a white adjacent that was wild when that was happening you know what I'm saying so when that was also happening that means there was a lot of friction and tension already towards the quote unquote broader agent community so once things like beatings came down that ended up probably just being like the the the Tipping part of the bucket where

19:25 it's kind of like all right here's a catalyst let's start a whole thing that maybe is a little bit of like a get off our asses for being this type of quote unquote minority and let's also just campaign about something else you know what I'm saying it was never a race issue it was a crime issue it's a community leadership issue and instead of taking responsibility for the problems that they've created they need something else to blame so if there are Asians getting beat up they don't know how to react so it's like oh it's because they hate you cuz you're Asian no it's because you're really ████ at your job and you create ████ policies and you're creating crime and you're letting crime go you know and the reality is like why do they allow so much crime in the cities why is there so much crime and why do they allow it because if they wanted to stop crime within the cities they could stop it but the prosecutor is not Prosecuting but why why do they let it happen that's what I'm trying to

20:15 figure out man that's what we trying to figure out they let it happen because they want the cities to get ridden with so much crime that the people and the residents within the city say hey government please help us please control Our Lives more please give us more surveillance because we don't feel safe please watch and check everyone's IDs and digital IDs because we don't feel safe please monitor everything around us because we don't feel safe and the government say yes we're here to we would love to have more control we're we're here to protect your life and your way of life the government was like defund the police huh well let's see how this goes they are so smart in what they do because if they said hey we're going to come in to the cities and we're going to control you people like no you can't do that yeah yeah what they do is create a problem so that you say hey please help us and then they finally can come in and solve the problem they create the

21:06 problem so I can solve it later cuz everyone says no to new things when everything's going right oh yeah true they go why don't you do anything do something yeah think about 9/11 right 9/11 what happened after 9/11 other than the fact Patriot that we had this crazy thing we had the patriarch we had the creation of the homeland security we had the creation of the TSA so what happens at the TSA you go to the airport and you willingly comply to their checks they sit there and they pat you down or else you can't fly and you can't fly what else does it do you stand in line and you see a woman getting petted down maybe a little bit aggressive way a little weird way cuz women go through it all the time right where the where the TS agent was being a little little frisky and what do we do as people we

21:56 sit there and go that's not right but what do we do do can't do ████ literally nothing we don't even say a damn thing we're being normalized to the government intervening in our lives but it's for safety for we're from the government we're here to help right because we get normalized to these crazy ideas that you know what we are the government we are controlling what you do and you guys you guys just have to accept it as it is and now people like oh we will never give the government willingly all of our information so what they do hey we have a program you know how you eight waiting in line we have a program it's called TSA pre-check that's us baby if you give us your information then you can save 15 minutes of your line isn't that awesome we were like that's ████ great here you go here's all my personal oh yeah a background check no problem we willingly gave it to

22:47 them I sure did it's so easy for what if you're in clear dude I'm I'm one of those like guys that are like ████ no ████ no government and I'm man I ain't going to take no ████ vaccine and then they threatened me with no ████ cuz I couldn't see my wife so I was like give me that ████ jab ████ we're going to go true true you know what I mean just by giving you a little bit of convenience they can control the way you live your life dude TSA pre-check ████ sign me up chip me up I'm ████ going I got the vaccine to go to Hawaii they got me bro yeah you know I spent over 500 bucks taking a test going to Hawaii cuz you had to check and I was like ████ vaccine me d I'm not going to ████ take more give me the double shot that's what happened to so many people had to get it it's worth it though Hawaii is

23:53 great

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