0:00 [Music] you think Joe needs therapy cheers bro do I think Joe needs therapy I think Jo go a therapy the therapist is going to quit yeah what kind of therapist would yeah you know why cuz I'll run circles around that they don't know what they're talking about he's going to be like I am a self-proclaimed therapist and psychologist it's not self-proclaim okay I'm a unlicensed certified specialist in therapy how you certified certified killer oh you're certifiably unlicensed am I certified yep yep see he certified me sub do you think Joe could benefit from therapy I will guarantee you will hate me at the end of the session yeah you hear that that's a nice compliment he said Joe's too smart for therapy who said that
0:50 subin either that's a compliment to Joe or a really bad neged therapy he smoked the therapist I'm quite sure which one this field why all right let's look at the word therapist okay now after the first T create a dash oh my god oh you know there is there is one realm that I do think that if Joe went into therapy there's no way this could not be helpful if he was vulnerable and open to it and I think the most cliche thing but it would have to do with his relation relationship with his father I thought you guys were pretty Square now yeah I think guys squared away but that doesn't mean especially if Joe is going into the mentality and
1:40 possibility of being a father himself there might not be some things that he might want to Anthony are you a therapist un licensed certified yeah but you know you could get chat GPT that could be your therapist I agree chat GPD is pretty good anything to get out of therapy anything no have you guys been through any therapy sounds like he's avoid sounds like he's avoiding my comment I've done some therapy yeah I told you I've done therapy what kind I did see anger management oh you did anger management you what cognitive behavioral therapy okay I like that kind yeah it was tight cuz it gives you a clear framework of like what you're trying to work towards and like I guess the metrics of you know he's my friend honestly I go to therapy probably four or five times a week no you don't yeah
2:30 it looks like this cheers hey cool ████ guy dude my therapy Cheers Cheers Diet Pepsi EP Pepsi zeros baby I've done a couples counseling oh how was that your current relationship no oh okay don't need that ████ with her I did need it with my ex though why what what's wrong with him don't you mean he was abusive every single time he like to choke me when I come what's wrong with that how did it go though did the therapist help no cuz he didn't do it for me waa e who who whoa whoa whoo whoo whoo he did you say choke me when I come yeah he said that we're only 3 minutes in too that's crazy oh we're rolling like imagine that
3:21 one how would you perform it I know you're getting just St a fantasize it's actually pretty easy to think about all right look teach you how to do that right teach put show me on so when you're when you're sucking someone you reach up and you choke them and you and then they're like first of all and you were the one being choked just off of the science and geometry of that alone they got to be a short King for you got to be like maybe sitting this is their torso length right here yeah they probably should be sitting or you got to have flexible shoulders cuz that's crazy pardon me feels like that story is fictional Joe I'm calling you out I don't think that really happened I don't think a guy believe what you would like to believe that I think he's still deflecting saying that think you finished I went to was the therapy
4:11 helpful no sometimes we would fight more fight more afterward ex girlfriend just say her name fight it would be like we're we're completely chill that day and we just have our regularly scheduled weekly session and we go in and then after and then she there was no action plan there was no you know what it felt like the therapist was just a very poor I thought you know this person was still training I believe they send out just training did she have another person with her over her shoulder yeah like at restaurants hey so so Jackie is going to be here going sh me a textbook and a checklist oh and they were going through motions but they didn't understand the material which I lost complete respect for that is weird it's not like you farted and then there was no
5:01 like there's no followup it's like here's these questions I'm going to ask you and then that's it there's no feedback there's no like all right now we're left with these like emotions and then we go to the next session there's no discussion of what happened previously that's kind of weird it's ████ weird did that do you think that turned you off to therapy or were you curious about a different better therapist well well i' I mean I've been to counselors at school right that have a degree in in like psychology and yeah they and then like that's who you're supposed to talk to I've done that too but I think at this point um I didn't it didn't shut me out cuz it's like my as an unlicensed
5:51 psychological genius I um that's the therapist goes I have a bachelor license genius is kingster I have a bachelor's in psychology so I like it's like it's my field like I I like it I'm not I'm not going to have a degree in it and go that's ████ qu crack pop ████ I don't believe in it right I think it's the tactician not the not the field that I was against and then I don't know how we even came to picking this person the traine yeah but after a while I just felt like I don't I don't no it's not even it's not even worth our money let's find someone else but we didn't really do you remember how much it was I don't remember right why does it have to be so expensive it wasn't expensive maybe that's why I should have paid top dollar honestly cuz it makes you sometimes it makes you have skin in the game right
6:41 especially if they're making you have uh like every you have homework to do after a therapy session and you come back that's their it does help you it it does help with accountability I guess for certain people but like how much is a session M I think anywhere from anywhere 100 to ████ $300 probably 300 an hour did you do indiv individual yeah I did individual did you do it I did during Co I was like losing my mind a little bit and I was like freaking the ████ out so was this video brought to you by better help and then you went to no I did through through not not through better help but it's kind of like a a system like that but it was through like our insurance Network and stuff wait can you dive a little bit deeper in you were kind of losing your mind yeah I just felt like um well was kind of a weird time cuz my job was so with everybody like in the
7:31 gym and when I didn't have that like Community I think I think I was just kind of trying to make work happen and I was like freaking the ████ out I was I don't know what the ████ I'm doing so it was a lot of like negative uh thinking right so the fact that I got a therapist and she was telling me like explaining all this stuff to me about like yeah it's really normal to have these thoughts it's really normal and just giv me coping tools to be able to handle it and you know move forward with my life and ████ cuz at a certain point it was like I want to say debilitating but it was to a point where I was just like stuck and I was like analysis for I mean paralysis did was that suggested to you by Tiff or did you like kind of on it was both I I definitely had like um I like an episode I freaked the ████ out in the house and I was just like I
8:21 was just mad all the time I was like really this is when I was like really kind of going through like the rage I guess or just not knowing what to do with it like I just was like freaking the ████ out was breaking ████ in the house so I felt I was like you know I should probably see somebody at least to get like a good understanding of what I'm going through and how I could work out of it and it was really helpful it was really helpful but I think I had a good therapist to help me yeah you must got a good one yeah yeah a Walmart one dude you probably had the Fresh Off The both but the difference the difference was the accountability it was the homework it was like the resources she gave me and just kind of talking things out and being like okay I get what she's talking about and and then eventually she was like yeah I think you're good and I was like I think I'm so she just like let you go yeah they say that that's a good sign yeah she's like yeah
9:11 you're good bro like you can hit me up whenever you want like if you need to if you want to wow that's good that's good I rarely ever hear about that yeah same but um no I just felt like uh she was really on top of it and I knew what she wanted yeah most of the ones I hear about are just trying to upsell you the next package oh she was tired she was really cool she was Filipino Filipino wow did you go to therapy I I only went for Behavioral when I was in high school for like 8 weeks or something I went to a high school one in your opinion M out of everybody here who do you think would benefit the most from therapy benefit the most yeah probably Nick I got to go back only because only because it was so it helped them so much the first time okay good logicist is like you're good to go I
10:01 think you should go no I probably should I'm probably do for once I think it works you know why I think it works for you because I think you're most combative to yourself but with people you're you're more like receptive you're trying to make me ████ cry dude no I just think like he understands you you have real friends n shut the ████ upen get out of here how I see you like if if like if you were look like this I picture you okay in my imagination I look at you in a grocery store looking at labels going what the ████ is that but then if a person like one of us went hey try this you'd go okay you know what I mean get out of my head out of the respect for the person you tend to have a different opinion and I think that's how you so funny of yourself you know what I mean so you think with feedback and guidance and and the therapist they can like work through that for Nick yeah because I think Nick's I I think that
10:51 therapist must have been good but also Nick was ready to receive that which that therapist could be a bad one to someone else I need Authority fighting with them you know what I mean the battle you have to be exactly yeah which I think she probably read the same thing and was like oh if I don't push this guy too hard and I just suggest things that work for him then work with it but if someone was just to tell you like oh you've been ████ up You' been yeah I'm like I already got that up here my boy I don't need I don't need any more of that I don't need to pay for that for people's you know suggestions and opinions than you do your own sometimes yeah that's probably true that's probably true what a great analysis that was really good in your opinion who do you think here might benefit the least from therapy probably me probably me I don't have the patience for a lot of the time and I think i'
11:41 I've made my own therapies I think cuz I completely like I had a really not not a bad therapist when I had to go but it was so like I I went to one of those therapists that like I guess they do a lot of insurance work or something so like I had to go as per like my was it my probation office officer was like telling me I needed to go and then my mom was just thinking putting me there would put me on the right track so it was just like a way to get rid of me and then this guy just all he did was play aell and chess with me every session that's it and I was like what are we going to do and then like um and then he started talking about how he used to be a 7thday Adventist pastor and I was like what the heck that's I'm I'm 7thday Adventist and I was like what happened to you and I started talking to him and talking about his life he's ████ good yeah he got you dude he got you H got
12:31 you yeah and then we were just talking about like like his situation and how he left the church and all this stuff and I was like oh interesting he built a bridge he also made it a common activity to just focus on the board yeah but we never it just felt like it was a time consumption thing where it's like oh this kid's getting into trouble let's like fill up his time with ████ oh yeah so they never really did anything but then I think like therapy wise I just found my own like little happy places with different activities so I don't think I would benefit that much hey you know what I realized going through therapy too though was after I did it there's a lot of common themes with like stoicism philosophy religion like selfhelp like a lot of the same themes are kind of talked about and you can kind of you could draw a ton of parallels through any of those ideologies that really help people move forward as long as you're like self-aware and you're willing to kind of accept that like okay I have a deficit
13:22 and I'm willing to work on it or whatever I feel like if you go with that mindset whatever kind of tool you need it could be really helpful as long as you put the work and you're kind of measuring your progress I think if I to if I had therapy 15 years ago it would have helped me out a lot but I think I instead chose the road of ████ up a lot and then doing it the long way that also helps too I think buter you know it's slower but like I think I should save money yeah also the methods aren't all like under sanctioned methods that's true yeah so like you might go to one like like hypnotherapy I ████ hate those guys but uh cognitive behavioral I actually think that that's a really good method yeah she was TI pretty practical they use science there's some woo woo therapy out there that's like magic the
14:12 Gathering woo wear therapy it's some weird like it's it's on the level of like it's like some Crystal therapy ████ you know like oh tell me about your past life like oh I was a ████ Egyptian prince and then the Pharaoh came and he kept making me ████ do back flips and I got tired or like some stupid ████ like that you know yeah that's probably not going to make you relatable back to society and it's like how can that be the same thing as someone who's just like hey I'm afraid of snakes okay well maybe I'll bring a rubber snake okay next time I'll bring a pet snake you know what that sounds more reasonable yeah it's more reasonable right but this is where it's like there's no real consensus yet there's different schools of thought there's different practition there's also like some people that are just so hard science that they're like
15:03 no it's all just it's all just uh what do you call it like your programming and genetics it's it has nothing to do with whatever like there's so many different it's so yeah it's so different right so I'm like the way I like to see therapy or like if I were to get a counselor or someone I would probably see them as like a mentor that can help me guide through things that I can process I like that idea but also you have to be careful cuz you got to choose your Master wisely right cuz it's like some of them are going to just medicate you cuz that's what they're taught and they don't think they're doing anything wrong but they're like yo man that's what the book says and I make a ████ ton of money doing this so you might go to go those guys and you might also go to guys that are like more like no I think you can do it with repetition and you can figure out different coping mechanisms you
15:54 know like when you did you did the Tony Robin stuff right yeah I I feel like lot of the stuff that he talks about is kind of rooted in those same principles they use psych like they use psychology like they do use science but it's not therapy no for sure but I just mean like the same principles of like how he kind of gets you to those certain points of like getting over the ████ that you tell yourself whatever like the the negative self talk I feel like all that stuff is really helpful and there's a ton of parallels with that oh yeah but it's just more in your face State Changers you said School counseling is also therapy oh Joe was saying but the quality is probably little funny it depends cuz some of them have like a background in Psych like they'll like let's say they studi psychology they have a bachelor's in psychology and then they get certified cuz I'm uncertified and then they they can um practice in
16:46 counseling oh I was going to say yeah cuz my high school one was Ash why I just didn't do work at school so they sent me to a counselor and she's just looking at me like hey how come you don't want to do your work why don't you want to do any of your homeworks or your tests and I was just like I don't want to she was just like okay I got something for you go to this classroom it's one of those ESL classes damn I go on the front and the first test was they pointed at a carrot and they said what is this shut up I swear to God I'm not making it Wood Creek High School you ████ ████ oh no they pointed at a carrot and asked me what it was and I was like it's a ████ carrot and they're like well what color is it's orange and then they're like okay you don't need this test so they gave me another one oh my it was shapes could you put Square on Square Circle to Circle you D
17:41 was was gy but I was like come on bro well they found something wrong yeah and then and then so when I when I when when I smoked the test you put it's hard it's hard it's hard not to smoke putting a circle in a circle but some people fail that test though some people failing yo yo yeah some people but they thought I had some type of autism or something so I was just like it's a carot it's Apple get this out of my face shape shape shape shape and they're oh okay so you just don't want to do your work I was like yes I told you that I like okay you're getting kicked out I got kicked out oh ████ wow has the same type of couns I should I should have pretended I was Dumb and then passed with ESL degree or something ESL degree no I don't know think they got a ESL degree it's not smart but state school which was definitely closer to my house than the
18:31 anyways what what I'm saying is have a master dude they got me they got me they got me good so they yeah they basically were just trying to catch you when you went to the next school you went to another school right so they said oh you just TP you just simply don't want to do your work and I was just like I do not want to do my work oh okay so it kicked me out it ended up becoming I went to a continuous High School continuation continuation school and then how did you do that Never End year round Jes crazy the first classroom I go to was English and they said you need to go to this class right away and I was like all right bet cuz I guess I ████ up my essay I go in there and it's six girls there with kids oh yeah wow English teacher like welcome to adalante and I was like ████ I should have just stay it let's go so you
19:22 learned your lesson hell yeah it's a good therapist do you remember why do you remember why you had that feeling of I just don't want to do do my work yeah cuz I was I was sessioning till like midnight like you were breaking breaking till midnight how old were you in 7 uh I was in I don't know what creative I was oh I was in I was like 15 16 15 wow so like sophomore junior so they you literally just didn't have a problem with saying I just don't want to do it like I dance all night yeah I said I want tired they're trying to be empathetic with me they're like why is something going on at home and I was like what's going on I was just like you know I just moved there so I was just already like but I don't even want to be here and uh and they were just like why and I was just like I miss my Hawaii friends no I said I Just Dance that's all I'm doing that's all I want to do that's all you cared about at the time all I cared about but that's good that you had that
20:13 what's life without [Laughter] dance but but that now I know what counselors do I get it know you should thank that counselor I don't think that's indirectly that might be a rogue counseling they were probably doing a psychological assessment test and she's like okay clearly he's not a dumbass he's just difficult ████ this guy that's what happened they didn't even want to try after that though which is interesting literally the next day they said you got to go to the school I was like that's interesting that they didn't even want to they just gave up cuz what if he was a dum they're like well we can't discriminate he's clearly can't put a circle in a triangle good thing around think about it right now they would have to they would probably send you to a special school after that which you probably would have crushed it man oh yeah was imagine if you didn't I remember like
21:03 there was a psychologist so like when you I don't know if they still do it but when you get on So You Think You Dance they have like a professional psychologist do a meeting with you just to see if you're all there and they ask you really weird questions oh you know you know what I think is really going on though this is my conspiracy about the whole reality TV world I think that guy is to construct personalities that will have conflict and then they report back and be like all right you ████ tied these two together and then these ████ together I mean that's good TV they were like one of the questions like they'll just ask you normal stuff like yeah what um where' you grow up how how was it like and then they'll just slip in like did you just get off of a 2-year Cruise like on a cruise ship a twoyear trip and you're like no and they're like okay what why
21:53 would you like ask that or they or they'll just be like randomly do do you think Superman's a real person or is it that just like a fiction that like in the middle of other stuff wow yeah and it'll just Blindside you and you're like as long I don't think he's real he trying to find compulsive liars I don't know what yeah I don't know what that must be some sort I want to be in the room I want to be in the room when the other thing happens cuz normally like most people would be like what what's the reasoning yeah do you think they're trying to like their motive of let's try to see if this ████ crazy yeah I I that's what I thought we don't want to leak anybody into the show that's yeah that's what I thought but according to to like I mean I heard stories that some dancers that were good didn't get on because of anger issues that they were able to find through those questions wow they asked me about my dad when I did sleep oh really yeah they're trying to make me cry oh you're talking about the producer
22:44 no so I made you did so you think you could dance I did actually but I did I did I passed prelims and everything and then I had to go towards in front of the judges and they made before the judges they made me interview yeah yeah and they're asking me personal questions yeah that's the they're trying to make me cry or something like that just to get it more drunk for the TV that's for like the home story I ████ that whole performance up what you mean sh up M I got drunk the night before woo ████ man that was crazy night Josh told me he was going to take me to the audition on time but he was passed out drunk so I didn't know how to get my way around La so I had to take the taxi and the taxi said I'm not going that far I what I got off and took the Uber it was just a whole crazy day what you took a taxi to get off to take a uber yeah I was I was like did I hear that right what you just taking Uber that was like my first La experience auditioning and going through the city but then it was
23:35 just like a whole thing did you think I'm going to be a star I was just like oh my God my dream's going to come true I'm taking the right path as everyone else did I'm going to do this and then I'll ████ that up damn bro you missed your opportunity to be an ESL major yeah all because you put the circle in the circle yeah should have played dumb but I did go I did go man to adult school after guys yep hey look at subie now bro years old I went back didn't study once nothing I just went straight for the test you you did pretty good on the Police examination oh yeah that's awesome s pretty good or passed so for the LAPD thing check so check it out LAPD thing I passed everything I needed to do physical test multiple question the only thing that held me back
24:25 was English that oh Finance they don't like if you have debt they don't you know why you're easy to corrupt yeah they think you'll you'll start I mean there's got to be a cap to it right I have a six Monon uh it wasn't even that much honestly it's under 20K but I have a 6mon uh time period to appeal and show them that I'm working on it hey that's cool but that's if I want to damn I thought I thought that's crazy
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