0:00 Somebody that many of us know and many of you know who hasn't posted on Instagram in 11 years started posting regularly again last week and he's in New York. >> New York >> Concrete Jungle. >> It's our good old friend Kev. >> He's been popping up on my feed, man. >> He's the Jumba. >> Kev Jumba is posting again. So, uh, for those of you unfamiliar, that's >> Do you know who he is? >> Yeah. An OG YouTuber. >> I used to watch this ████ >> One of the OG YouTubers. uh and he at one point kind of disappeared off the map and then reappeared as uh Har Krishna and to be honest he seems pretty actually happy. >> Yeah, he seems great. >> Seems great. >> He looks like A from the >> He does look like Avatar Ang. So, here's a a interesting video that he had posted
0:50 about um because he had he had posted uh a friend of his had posted a video of them together and all the comments were just calling him like a cultist and he's in a cult. He's in a cult. So then he made this and I I thought it was like a really like beautiful thing that he said. >> I have to admit the fact that Pep Jumba is in a cult. He's in a cult of the uh YouTube nostalgia and it's very difficult uh for Kev Jumba to leave that cult. But the person behind Kevj Jumba, he's evolved and he has found a bonafide [music] spiritual path represented by a chain of spiritual masters going back to Sri Krishna with the Vas described as the Ishbada
1:42 Sach Anandanda Vigra who's eternal full of knowledge and blissful in his eternal forms. He sounds like >> someone may criticize Hari Krishna's for being a cult. And yes, we do do things that are uh outside of society. The norms of society like uh refraining from illicit sex, [music] uh no intoxication, no meat eating, no gambling. Now, why am I dressed like this? Yeah, this is this is just a a costume, an outfit. It's superficial. It's just a an austerity that monks take on in [music] the west to try and connect with those who are sincere and who have some sympathy for
2:32 what we're trying to do, wanting to see. >> You know what's funny to me? Um, if he became a Catholic priest or if he became a Buddhist monk, >> nobody would go, you're in a cult. But because he's Hari Krishna and some people know what a Hari Krishna is >> that's why he's categorized as a cult. >> What is it by the way? >> Well cult is categorized by having a human prophet isn't >> right. Right. So they lord uh Lord Krishna that the one that he was talking about. >> That's who their leader is and then like they follow his principles and things like that. And then so >> so is it kind of like being like in Scientology like that or >> Well, they don't really have a Well, I guess they do. They have the Ronell Hubard. >> They're based in Hinduism, right? Or no, >> but it's like offshoot. It's like being like so like the religion we grew up
3:23 with was like gray area cult. >> But it's like Mormons, right? They're gray area cult, right? Yes. >> Cuz we have a we have a human prophet in Seventh Diamondism, too. >> I see. >> But but we're the ultimate god is still God. >> So I think like that it's that's why it's gray. >> Buddhism technically human prophet. >> Harak Krishna. I believe the the the name Har Krishna might be the disciples themselves and >> something like that. But I don't know, man. Like I also don't have a problem with people in cults. Like >> Har Krishna people don't hurt nobody. Exactly. >> And I think that they're not hurting anybody. >> They're just that colleges ████ doing bongo drums. Like I haven't heard any massive like I rather have them do that than Westboro Baptist. >> It's like you ever been attacked by like a Buddhist gang, you know? Like there's some groups that just don't hurt people. That's cool, right? I think people are probably upset and they're just
4:14 projecting cuz I'm like if he found peace in his way that's awesome. Good for him. It's his life. He makes his own decisions. >> But I think people probably just feel sad when they like he's so beloved in a lot of people's upbringing >> and so they want to see him uh like live long and prosper and it's just hard for them to envision that this is his version of >> that. That's his version. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Cuz it's like what do you want for him to be like still on YouTube and still like I guess like at the top of fame in a the way that we're used to like pop culture wise. >> Yeah. Cuz the people that come up to us are like I wish we do Uncle Sam stuff but I'm like I'm 42 man. I'm not going to do Uncle Sam stuff. [laughter] >> Did the social media stuff like get to him? Is that what happened? >> No. like so um behind the scenes I don't know how much information is out there so I don't
5:05 want to talk about his personal life but a lot of people that are close to him and creators we know some of the traumatic intense things that he's been through when he stopped posting and I think that leads to things like this like I think we've seen it all before with humans like when they go through like major crazy life events like you want to like meaning, >> belief, meaning. And then I think it's natural. Like it's a natural evolutionary state for someone that's like, I've been through some mad ████ so now I'm a priest or now I'm something. And that's what they find like a spiritual like peace with. >> So I I I get it, man. And I and I and I can't really like >> it's hard to judge. Like it's hard to be like, "F███ what?" But I'm I'm pretty sure it's jarring for the audience that's just been like, "Hey, this guy's talking about girls and M&M's. He was
5:56 like this sweet boy doing skits with his dad and he was doing great. He should be like Mr. Beast right now. And then boom, all of a sudden he's doing ████ like this. >> And I'm like >> as if that's like a fall from from grace though, you know? It's like it's such a weird perception. >> Like if if he's truly happy, >> the only way is to do the ████ test. >> What's that? >> So the ████ test, you know, you ever watch Wolf on Wall Street? >> Yeah. So you you go you have Margot Robbie sit in front of him and then she spreads her ████ and if he goes they're like >> he's still in there. >> You're still in there. Kev, come out Kev. He said elillicit sex. So I'm like what does that even? >> Yeah. What does that mean? What's sex? >> What is elicit sex? That's kind of how he does it. [laughter] >> I was like what the ████ How's that different from regular sex? >> But if he just sees it and he's just like
6:46 then like oh wow that's this guy's truly >> some positions are haram. >> Some positions are haram. just missionary. >> Not even [laughter] it's Muslim. >> But it's like to me like as a guy just seeing him like I remember him on YouTube. The thing I would say it's it's good that he's found peace for himself. The thing that's like maybe a little weird for me is like he used to be this like really fun guy, right? And like all of that is gone and now he's this like monk talking about himself in the third person. Do you >> I mean that's >> that part is sad because it's like oh what happened to your your soul your entire personality >> cuz Yeah. if he was still fun but a monk like oh cool like you were you achieved what you wanted >> but he's not even fun >> but the disassociation makes sense to me because of what he went through >> so it's like I can see why he doesn't like Kev Jumba and himself and he wants
7:36 to escape and become a new thing >> but isn't that a little bit sad >> it's extremely sad >> what hap what happened to him is sad yeah >> yeah but it's it's I think if you know the whole arc you go this is probably how he's going to survive >> the funny thing is there's some friends that that actually believe that the apartment was cursed. >> Yeah. >> Why? Because he was roommates with with Victor, >> right? Cuz at one point in North Hollywood, him and uh Victor Kim, a guy from from my uh team and his one of his best friends, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. He they lived together in this apartment and uh they both kind of experienced like really big changes >> mentally. >> He also stopped doing stuff a long time ago, right? >> Yeah, man. Yeah. Maybe we'll see him kind of like this someday. and he also had like a really traumatic experience that got him off um social media. So yeah, they both were roommates. They had
8:27 an evil spirit maybe. I don't know. That's one of the thoughts within the the whispers, you know. >> That's the prevailing theory. >> And then you had Drix and freaking Ryan Higa who who were roommates and they and they live they live together like a floor up. >> Yeah. The same building [laughter] >> and they were like totally spirit couldn't go upstairs. >> Yeah. >> What? >> Yeah. But that's just like a little urban legend among that circle. But for sure it's an that's the easy answer. It's like mental health and all that stuff is is the >> or it could be birds of a feather, bro. And you're just like sometimes you just attracted to like, hey, you've been through some ████ I've been through some ████ And we just feel closer. >> We're best friends, you know? >> Yeah. >> Like we we freaking got closer cuz it's like we got our ████ kicked out of us when we were kids. and and and we talk with other Asian kids and they're like that's not that's not Asian culture. You guys got abused. You know what I mean?
9:17 [laughter] Like >> Yeah. Right. >> So I say what if it's that like maybe they've been, you know, trauma bonding and and something happened and like when you're kids you don't know like we're just creating content trying to be funny and ████ You don't know like the real ████ behind the scenes. >> It is cool to see like cuz you know we now that we've we're freaking dinosaurs. We've been around so damn long. It's cool to see where all these people are ending up and they're it's so diverse and different. Like you never you couldn't have predicted a lot of these paths, man. >> Yeah. No way. >> Like podcasting. Yeah. No one would have predicted that. Like [laughter] I don't >> except for JK News cuz they were doing it before it was called that. >> Like why would you want to watch people talk? >> Yeah, [laughter] that's true. >> What the ████ >> Turn it off right now. >> You guys should be doing skits instead. [snorts] Yo, that is crazier.
10:08 >> What? >> Just doing skits and everybody should do skits instead of talk on podcasts. >> Hey, but him being >> way more entertaining. >> But him being Akari Krishna is not new news. He's been one like over 10 years ago, right? When he first got in. >> Yeah, he's been doing it, but this is I guess the first time he's been really like posting regularly about it. Yeah. Like I mean people caught him all the time everywhere all over just like, "Hey, look, that's him." And they would film him from afar. He's playing drums and ████ at the park with his friends. >> He's had like little bits here and there, but he's been posting every every day in a row for for like seven or eight days. >> Is it doing well? >> I think it's doing I mean, I'm not sure what his metric is. What if he's like, "F███, man. Come on." >> No. Well, he's a monk. He shouldn't care about the metric is what I'm saying. >> Yeah. But his um his content's pretty like it's very like nice. >> He's articulate, too. Like choosing to
10:58 to explain like that is like like, "Oh, man. You said that really freaking well." and he puts up music that he writes and stuff. It's like pretty cool. >> The cult of Kev Jumba on YouTube. That's that it's like it hits you right away. It's like you're holding on >> to that ████ Let that ████ go, bro. Let me be a new person. >> Yeah, that that was said really well. >> Yeah. >> Even though Joe immediately was like, "That sounds like you're in a cult." [laughter] They do. Does >> But it's cuz the fun's gone. The soul's gone. >> Exactly. That's the Cuz like I don't know. Being an Asian YouTuber, I feel like one of the big things is like, "Oh, you're going against the grain. You're doing something creative." You know what I mean? And to go from that to becoming a literal monk is like, "You went even harder Asian than you could have." Do you know what I mean? [laughter] I'm like, "What the ████ >> bro?" Like, become a banker, a doctor, you know what I mean? That would have been more normal than whatever the ████
11:48 this is. >> This This is a more This is a technically more extreme version of like, you know, when porn stars are like now they got kids, so they write books and do tours and they're like, "No, no, like scrape the porn. And I don't want this. This is like a crazier version technically. >> Yeah. >> That he went more Asian. >> No, cuz he was always Asian. >> He went full sterile. >> That's more Asian than any of us have ever been. >> Yeah. That's like Asia. >> That's like if I was wearing a kimono every day. >> Well, I could still see you. Yeah. Yeah. But he kind of is wearing >> and no illicit sex. He says whatever that means. >> See, he can tell you. >> He could have unelicit sex. If we know what that is, >> that means yes. sex. I don't Yeah, you can't orgasm in unicit sex. >> Oh, you can you can ████ without coming. Oh, he can he can edge. >> I'm just kidding. >> He's allowed to edge. >> It probably just means unorthodox. Maybe they can only do one position. Yeah, >> just edger.
12:38 >> He's a hairy edger. >> So, all missionary is okay, >> huh? >> Probably. >> Oh, okay. So, >> like doggy styles got to be in there. >> Any sexual activity that is forbidden, unlawful, or violates established moral, social, or legal codes. Yeah, you shouldn't be ████ doing anything that's illegal. >> He just said no rape. That's what he said in [laughter] the beginning. He was like, "Guys, I'm not having rape." >> Okay. So, okay. Sorry. There's a legal and then there's a religious and spiritual context. So, religious and spiritual context. >> Maybe just ask what's Hari Krishna's views on sex. >> No, no, no, no. Let's go down this. >> Oh ████ It actually came out >> on what Hari Krishna on Google by itself. goes is defined more restrictively as any act not sanctioned by scripture performed outside of marriage or utilized for any purpose other than pro procreation. >> Oh, okay. Yeah.
13:28 >> Maybe missionary. >> So, it's not for fun. It's for utility. Yeah. >> Style. >> So, Hari Krishna, you could still make babies. >> Yes. Wow. I think they got to keep existing. They probably >> I think it's a term that makes sense >> cuz that's one of the first things that popped up on Google. >> Well, guys, let us know what you think about uh Kev Juma's current state. if you're happy for him, if you're scared for him, if you're concerned, or if you're just feel like um this is just a different form of joy uh that doesn't look like his old form of joy. Uh let us know in the comments what you think >> and and if you like illicit sex or not.
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