0:00 [Music] Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. We got lyrics born with us today. All right, I need to ask this thing because I feel like you haven't really done enough talking about it, but like your whole like style clothing wise, you have some pieces that are so rare and that date so far back, but like before Christ got to No, but like you don't you don't like always reveal where they come from. Toggas, he's stupid. Loin claws. Yeah. Like how long have you Roman era, dude. He's like, "This is Mesoptopian." Messiptopian. Hella wrong. I stole this from aing Egyptian coffin. Has that always been your thing? Like
0:50 a shroud? Oh, sorry. What did you say? Has that always been your thing? Like the whole time you have been like ancient collector of like vintage stuff? No, I'm I mean I think I like vintage and retro ████ at heart, you know. that came up as a record collector, you know, like digging, you know, I was always big into digging. How'd you get the Arseno Hall jacket? I can't say. I can't tell you. He has a jacket that it says straight up. The label in the jacket says made for Arcio Hall. What? Yeah, I got a couple of those. I got a few of those. What the heck? Yeah, I got a few of those. I I He stole it from the show. It And it came with like a certificate of authenticity. Oh my god. They actually um I forget I can't remember the guy's name now that did it, but he
1:40 did a lot of like custom leather work for a lot of celebrities back in the late 80s and early 90s. And his when it got when when that jacket uh was when I wore that and we posted it, his son actually reached out to me and his son was like, you know, my dad is still making and God, I wish I could remember his name right now, but his son reached out to me. He was like, "How did you He said said the same thing. How a Deran kind of guy kind of." Yeah. And he was like, "How that era basically, but a West Coast guy, you know, and he was like, "Well, how'd you how'd you find it?" And I told him, you know, and he's like, "Check out my dad's Instagram page." And I did. He's still active. Wow. He's still making He did he did a lot of Floyd Mayweather's fight gear recently in the past 10 years, you know. Totally. Um custom fight gear. Um, you know, like
2:31 when Floyd used to come out in like those python shorts. Yeah. Python trunks. Yeah. You know, like crazy ████ bro. Like that's what he did, man. You know, um Yeah. So I I um I I don't know. I think I'm a collector and a by nature. I'm sort of like a collector and a archavist and historian. And I grew up, you know, I grew up in Berkeley in the late '8s and that's what all the dope dealers were, you know, that's what all the dope dealers were. I mean, they pull up Head to toe, you know, North Beach leather troop, Michael Hobon, um, you know, fur coats in in the middle of summer, you know, and drop top 89
3:24 Benzes, you know, that circle around Berkeley High, you know. Yep. Which was, you know, it was what it was, man. And and those were like the guys that we were like, "Oh, they look cool." And then and then you know they the same fits would show up on Yom TV Rats and da da da da da and it was just it was again more core memories from like a a a sign culturally significant time in my in my life. You know there's just something like something really there with it. I feel like when you present like you don't do it as often the like when you do the outfit breakdown and you go like piece by piece. Yeah. And then at the end you're like total grand total hundred bucks. Yeah. I'm like 100 bucks but it looks like show like stage worthy outfits.
4:16 It is. I mean I that's what I wear like when I'm performing in a tour. I wear a lot of that ████ So you're going to do a a program or some kind of show about vintage style or something like that? cuz that's that is pretty big. Yeah. Yeah. And like a lot of the stuff like like Okay. So like this is from I think like 91 or '92. But I mean it's like if you want to see where music is going, look to the past. If you want to see where fashion is going, look to the past. You know, if you a lot of times if you want to see where certain like artistic or cultural moments are going, you just go to the past and you can see the thread, you know, like the through line from from then until now and tomorrow, you know. Is your closet huge? Like cuz you just keep collecting of a ton of a ton of clothes. I had Yeah, I got like Well, in our house, I got probably six closets.
5:07 And at one time, I had a whole bedroom that full of clothes. Yeah. It was like a pantry just of clothes. Your your wife's not like, "You need to Marie Condo this ████ Say thank you and peace out." Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Leather. Thank you. Leather python trunks. No, but uh you know like people would come over, man, be like, "Man, your wife loves you, bro." Yeah. She puts up with What's your like What are your Can you reveal at least one source about like where you go to find stuff like this? Um I don't want to blow up your spot. Yeah. No, I thrift. I thrift. That's just like random thrift stores. Just like Yeah, there some are more reliable than others. You go to estate sales? I have. I have. I got uh um I've gotten some pretty cool pieces from estate sales. I
5:58 I have the gems. I know a lot of other collectors. Yeah. We trade. Okay. They sell. It's like anything else, man. You know, like if you collect cars or you know, you just know people, you know, you need a part, you go to somebody, you know, you you collect records, you know, you know people. You know, it's just it's the same kind of thing. You know, that's got to be like a big draw for like when I first saw your videos. Mhm. That was like I think the character of you was like so like mysterious like what this dude's from another era like the just the look of it. Let me tell you a ████ story. So word around town. Okay. Cuz pe people know me from like previously making these records and albums in the
6:49 2000s 90s 2010s. people were like at a certain point, you know, I I decided I wanted to go in a different direction, you know, that was a decision that I made, you know, and people were like, "You seen what you seen what Alb's been wearing lately, bro? What's what's going on with all the mesh leather and mesh? The little mesh tank undershirt, right? The ████ going on, bro? He's What the hell?" You know? Okay, you can feel that way. You know, you're entitled to feel that way, but I'm not going to go in the ████ corner in a dad hat and some cargo shorts and die. I'm not going to do that.
7:40 You know, you can continue to walk around in some Air Maxes with no socks if you want to with, you know, with your hairy ass ankles, bro. If you want to do that, I feel seen. Go ahead. You know, I'm not I guess I am. Cargo shorts are functional. There's more pockets they can use. Look how many pockets this guy has. No, he doesn't have any. ████ Is anybody wearing Air Max or cargo shorts right now? Okay. I have some. Cargo pants. Cargo pants. Cargo pants. This guy. This guy. Oh, I didn't know they were cargo. What a dork. Oh, damn. I actually like those though. My wife bought it for me. Hey y'all. She dresses me. Damn. Another test of self. But the the point that I'm trying to make, man, is that I'm glad you feel that way, but not
8:32 every decision that you make, people are going to understand or be on board with or support. You know, it's just it takes a lot sometimes to just be committed to your vision. You know what I'm saying? Like how many people you think told you guys you you couldn't pull this ████ off, you know? I just don't listen, man. There you go. My wife told me I couldn't pull this off today and I was like in your face. I thrifted this, too. That's pretty sick, right? I thought it was pretty sick. I think it's from 92. [Laughter] I don't think that's a fashion choice. It's more like a cancel. like you want more fans probably don't want to do that cuz it's not ironic if it's actually true. I think like that's a big that's a big necessary element I feel like for all
9:23 your content. Like even when you watch Dinner in place, you always got a fly ass outfit on even though the thing is about food. Yeah. Like it's I notice that you still put detail into that and I appreciate that. I'm like that's tight. It's what I'm into, man. Yeah. And it's just what I'm into. You part of the world building too, I think. Well, that's why when I I was asking I was like you're from NorCal, huh? Because like I feel like NorCal dudes are just way more brave when it comes to fashion. You think so? Cooler. What up guys? Come join our Patreon cuz there's hundreds of videos dating back to 2019. Support the channel's growth and new ideas. And tap into the closer community by joining our Discord. Come chat with me inside and then you can say funny things to me and get the opportunity to suggest new video ideas. Come join our Patreon. Thank you. Link is in the description
10:13 box below. There's a vibe behind I think Japanese people in general. That's Hey, that's a big one. That's a big throw that one out there. Thank you. But I have no sense of fashion. You're you're you're very unique. But when you decide you want to dress up, are you hammering your back? Yeah, it hurts. It feels pretty good style. Like he's he's a he's a one of a kind. So, I mean, in general, Japanese people though, very fashion forward, very aware, very um But would you say Japanese Americans though? Cuz I think most Japanese Americans are pretty square. I would say I would agree. Yeah. They dress like Old Navy. That's their That's That's it. Creative. Japanese creative. That's the practical Japanese cuz I would say Southeast Asians actually have, you know, the most like Filipinos are known to always be like very adventurous with what they wear. Japanese creatives. I think Japanese
11:04 creatives got the top tier. You mean from Japan? From Japan. From Tokyo specifically, the Shibuya and all that. Yeah. Yeah. Even the Osakas, man. Like Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. You're right. You're right. The Osakas. It's like a breed of person. The Osaka. They're not Japanese. I'm not I'm not claimed. I'm I'm one of the outcasts. So, are you going to do a show about like fashion or anything like that? Are you interested in that? I would. Yeah, I would. cuz it is something I am, you know, thrifting's big. Here's something that's interesting, too. Like, when I first started buying vintage, in my opinion, '9s was vintage, you know? But like you you It's interesting how there's gatekeepers in every business, right? You know what I'm saying? Like I go in these Oh, that's not vintage. Like
11:55 the vintage that's only 95, right? Right. Oh, like that's not vintage. What do you got to wear? Victorian era cloth and ████ like ████ plaid pirates flag. Yeah, you know, stupid. But what I love about this era of vintage is that you have so and and this was not the case when I was a kid, when I was their age, you have so many young people of color interested in vintage now. Like you can go and see like my favorite vintage shops right now in the Bay are all Asianowned. You know what I mean? I never saw Asians into vintage when I was a kid. Did you? I didn't. You know, like in the shops I know now are either owned by uh like I know a Filipino couple that owns a shop that I
12:45 love. There's a a a Chinese couple that I know and they're young. They're younger than me. You know what I mean? And I it's And you go to these vintage markets and fairs. I get a lot of ████ there, by the way. I get a lot of ████ there. It's like young people of color. It's so different than than um when I was growing up, man. What's one of the best finds that you've acquired that you haven't like really featured much of yet? Cuz that Arceno jacket was like that's a showstopper. Like like your holy grail or Yeah, that's that's one of them. I haven't I have another one that uh I just don't wear because it's it's that valuable. Wow. Yeah. I mean, I've had I wore a couple times out and I've had people offer me money for it like all the time. Wow. So, people recognize what the piece even is or they just like how it looks. No, they just like the way it looks. What the heck is it? What is it? I never had anyone ask, "Let me buy that
13:35 off of your back." Someone wanted to buy my shirt today. Shut up. They wanted to buy it out. I kept getting stopped wherever I went. I'll pay you to take this off. That's what they said. What is that? What piece is that? Uh, so so the the Arsenio jacket. The Arseno jacket. So, you had in person offers for it just straight. Yeah. Yeah. Just like how much you want for that. How much you want for that? Like they don't they don't even know. No, I want to keep them, man. So there's no they they name 2,000 bucks you'll pass on it. Yeah, I probably Yeah, because you'll never find that. Does it You think because it hits a certain part in their childhood or it just looks that dope? I think that uh honestly I think the way that fashion has evolved I think in that in that case the guy that offered to buy that jacket didn't even know it was vintage
14:26 he thought it was legit current you know and that's how I think that's the answer you know I think that's the answer but yeah I mean I've been wearing motorcycle jerseys for like, you know, 10 years. And now they're they're super popular right now. Yeah. Like Fox stuff. Yeah. Basically, every brand has their own version of that now. Like they're all making their own to the point where you'll see like versions of it at like Cottonon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For real. All the mainstream ones, they all got it. They all got it. Yeah. There's a lot of like sport stuff that pretty popular. Like I don't know, there's a vintage shop or street wear kind of vintage shop in Hawaii. Harbor's vintage owned by some Asian guys. Yeah. And um Yeah. I don't I'm like how do you get all this stuff? And they're like oh
15:16 at this point we're known now. So everyone just brings their stuff to us. So the whole island just goes and like and I'm like so you get all the like old school Chicago Bulls whatever. I'm just like, "Dang, like I guess a lot of people just collect it." And then they're like, you know, they're like, "Oh, it's just collecting dust in my garage." So, yeah, that's like the um like my one of the things I got recently that I was really happy about was I got a Lethal Weapon 2 denim production jacket. You know, like the jackets they give out on those are so hard to find. The ones that they like crew wore. Yeah. God damn, dude. I got a Street Fighter one if you want one. I ran it. Oh my god. I knew there there was this Starbucks I used to go to about before just before the pandemic and this OG used I see this OG in there all the time. This was like in
16:06 uh in Richmond and it he had all the like varsity jackets from the movies of that era. So one time he came in he had Fear of a Black Hat jacket. I don't know if you guys remember these movies. Then he had like poetic justice, like the real deal, like the from the production. Wow. Boys in the hood. Um, what was the uh uh Hollywood Shuffle? He had a And I'm just like I'm like one day I asked him like, you know, just a normal dude like probably in the 60s. I'm like, how do you get all this ████ Let me Can I buy these off of you? You know, one time he came in with like a an old English 800 like varsity jacket, you know, the the the beer, you know, like how do you get all this ████ you know? And he's like in his 60s, just a normal
16:57 dude in there drinking coffee every day. He's like, "Well, I had a cousin that used to work on all these movies and he would, you know, his cousin was here and they just he sent him a jacket every time he worked on a movie or a campaign." Oh, that's dope. I'm like, "How many of these do you have?" you know, and he's like, "I have a whole closet full." And I would legit see him wearing a different one every time I came in. And they're in great ████ shape, you know? Yeah, cuz he has so many. He doesn't wear them out. The rotation is sick. All he does is wear them to Starbucks, you know? He just showing up. I was like, "This is ████ cool." I like, "You sure you don't want to sell me any?" And they're way too big for me. You know what I mean? But I I don't care. I'll ████ wear them. And he's like, "Nah, I can't do it, man. It's all I got." And that's how I feel. That's the same way I feel. You know, it's just like you they're special, they're different, they're unique, they're one of a kind,
17:48 they're rare, you know. So, do you have all of your merch pieces that you've had throughout your whole career? I do. You have every single one and others. Yeah. And others. Yeah. Dang. I actually um for a while I had online I was selling uh vintage stuff. So you can it it's I think my page is still open. It's called Later that Day Vintage. I haven't sold in years, but it was just sort of a hobby cuz I had too much ████ Oh, I had too much like Pop Bart and stuff. Yeah. Oh, excuse me. So I So I had too much ████ so I was just starting to get rid of it, you know. I didn't have any more space for it. I stopped doing it cuz it just was taking up too much time. But um yeah, it's a it's it's a lifestyle really. You know what I mean? It really is. It's a lifestyle. You know, that's good that you were able to keep every one of your pieces that you've had
18:38 for your own like lyrics and stuff. Yeah, I've got ████ from 93 94 not 93 like 95 on. Damn. You know, that's cool.
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