0:06 And welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys where hey, let's let's talk about this. Let's have this conversation. All right? You guys ever jump on like ChatGPT or Grok or something like that and then you see an AI and then you ask the AI describe white pride using only one word and it comes back and it says racism. And then it goes describe black pride using only one word and it says empowerment. >> No way. >> And so so somebody says, you know, throws this on X and is like, "Hey, Anthropic's Claude is racist." This happens across a couple different um uh AIs if you will and then Elon's like, "Yes." And so he's basically saying that an AI can be racist. What do you guys think about >> pride though. I wonder what it would have said if you said
0:56 >> just say lol? >> Would it say got rice right back to us? >> That's two words. >> Got rice? Oh yeah, you're right. >> rice >> I bet a black guy was programming that. But it's obviously a white person programmed that ████ >> Yeah. W- why do you say that? Why do you >> Because white people are the most racist against white people. >> That's true. >> It's the weirdest ████ phenomenon. >> people the most? >> It's the strangest phenomenon I never thought I'd be looking at from the outside. What the ████ are you guys doing? >> Well well actually even regardless though of of uh coding that into an AI system, do would you kind of agree like outside of like the context of AI if you were to say this exact same thing? >> they came to this conclusion. I so I know why, but I think that's ████ up and wrong. Cuz I'm when I think about AI, if they're supposed to be like a robot and if you're and the whole goal
1:46 of AI is to not make mistakes that human do, right? Then they need to be psychopathic. >> Or or its goal is also to be intelligent though. >> But not make human mistake and if you don't have human error, it should be both of them should be empowerment. But the minute you get you put that human bias into it, that's when like AI's just going to do what humans do and not be I guess better than humans. >> But it is a subjective question. Describe white pride using only one word. It's not There's no right right or wrong answer to that, right? >> basically taking a lot Well, my understanding of it is they take all of like what's in the internet, right? So if all the conversations are that, then that's what it's >> Like if it's reading transcripts from street interviews, walking up to people. Like yeah, most people will say that. >> articles or yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most people will be saying that ████ >> Yeah. So yeah, I do agree that like if you're going to go out in the world and
2:36 ask people, that's probably what you'll get. >> So that's what So I I think that's my problem with it where um AI people look at it like it's a calculator, but it's actually not. So it's like a calculator would be what's 2 + 2? It's always going to be four, no matter what, right? No matter what the world says. If the world says 2 + 2 is now eight, this AI calculator, you'll say eight. Cuz it's like, "Well, actually the world's been saying eight." And you're like, "No, but it's four though." They're like, "No, no, no, it's eight cuz everyone's saying it." You're like, "Oh, ████ So AI's actually not a calculator." >> No, it's like a Google search engine. >> It's more like a summary, a summarizer. >> Humans have put into the internet. >> When you think about white pride, what do you guys think? >> White power, baby. >> You just said it though. >> White white power. Right? Like you think of You can't help but to not do word association.
3:26 >> used by the neo-Nazi movement. That's why it's racist. Cuz they used It's kind of like you know like the Red Cross for England? It's just their flag, but then it's associated with neo-Nazism. So that's why >> The Red Cross? >> In um England. >> But I would also say I would also say if you type in white pride into Google search right now, it's going to be mostly just >> neo-Nazi stuff. >> Yeah, it's going to be just the most >> I don't even >> think Google would >> Google >> If you think of like objectively, what do you If you were to think of positive white pride, what would you think of? >> I actually have a lot of positive things if I put my AI brain on, but then that makes me go So, AI is not much better than Google. >> That's But that's the whole point about AI, though, right? Is like AI people look at it like what you say, it's supposed to be better than humans, but it's it's using human
4:16 like articles. People People These have been written by people in history, right? >> Google white pride, Wikipedia's going to describe it, which is written by human, that it's an expression primarily used by white nationalist. So, the AR overview is going to be white pride is an expression primarily utilized by white nationalist. Like And then Elon going on Twitter using that as an example is like, "Brother, you're supposed to be smarter than this, right?" Like Like you're stoking fires, Elon. Like that's what I can't stand about this dude. >> Well, I I I >> I understand why he's stoking the fire, though, because he's creating his own AI that's supposed >> That's going to be a calculator. >> Exactly. Supposed to do different. >> But then look at the comments, people are going crazy like arguing with each other over some ████ Over some nonsense. Like it's a false premise, bro. >> It's gotten to the point where right now white people aren't allowed to celebrate
5:07 their own culture without being associated with racism and white pride. So, there's it's gone the other way because it's almost like this whole thing has been hijacked by neo-Nazis so hard that it's now it's gotten to the point where white people feel like they can't celebrate their Irish heritage or whatever heritage. >> That's why you get people getting mad about the ████ Super Bowl ████ Like Megan Kelly's like, "This is white culture." This is ████ But like part But and and then my whole thing is like even that argument, the thing that she's saying, I'm like, "This is performative to me, too. I really don't believe you really give a ████ about white pride that much. If I'm being honest, like I really don't think that. >> I think white pride is Medieval Times. >> I THINK IT'S I TRULY >> FOR ME, in a lot of ways, I think most
5:57 like the average white person when they think of white pride, they're just like it's like neutral to them. >> Yeah, but I think I think most white people also don't want to be put down. I think it's just about being at a level. It's not about being like proud. It's just don't ████ rule me out cuz I'm white. I think that's ████ up. >> This pride is everybody is good. >> Yeah. >> And then when it's white pride and then the minority, a very small minority might be like neo-Nazis. >> Yeah. >> 99% of white people are just regular people and then they can't celebrate it, you know? >> I mean it's >> Hey, but but chill out on it though, you know? >> It's got to It does it >> Do that ████ with your own people, dude. >> It does have to I mean it's got to be like if you're like even I guess like a decently intelligent person, it probably is pretty ████ frustrating when people keep talking to you like you're the colonial age. You know, like where they're just like, "Hey, you're white.
6:47 Your people oppressed mine." It's like you you might have lived your whole life minding your own goddamn business. >> Especially if you're >> Yeah, it's like That's got >> Take your L's for a little bit. >> That's got to be a pretty ████ double standard. >> had a good run. >> You also can't do that to other races where you're like, "Oh, you blacks, you Chinese, you like that sounds ████ dumb to say to people." But then white people got to take that ████ I think that's kind of ████ uneven, you know? >> They can ride it out a little bit. They've had their fun. They had their time in the sun. >> And then am I right? >> Social reparations. >> What I mean is like people always are thinking of like the top 1% when they're thinking of like prosperous white people. I think it's just >> Most of them are broke. >> And they're And they're also They're also the Earth's minority now by a ████ huge degree. >> About it being an American thing, right? Like if we if we go just like are they the minority in America? Because that's
7:39 how we perceive and that's why racism is biggest here. Right? >> They're they're on their way to ████ extinction in some big cities, though. If you If you graph it. >> And then so that's my gripe. I'm like, if AI is supposed to be closer to perfect than we are, then AI should start going in the more fair and calculated direction. >> But in its early adoption stages is a more clearly a reflection of us. In the nearer future, it's going to be smarter than us. Therefore, it's going to be better than us, right? Or like that's the both the fear and the excitement of it. >> But then it's also it's also pulling that answer from like a historical context, too, right? Like as far as like black pride as a movement, we all know that it's like marginalized people. >> Where like most white people that are even saying white pride, the likelihood that they're a supremacist liar. >> They might They might have a swastika somewhere in their house.
8:30 >> You don't go around saying white pride. >> And I don't actually think they see race in the same way where they don't see themselves as one group at all. That's why it like the word white like pride and all that, it's such a weird word. >> That's why they're calling the cops on each other all the goddamn time. >> It's so weird because like they like no one hates white people more than a blue-haired white person. That's >> That's 100% true. >> Self-hatred. >> one group. No one backs each other up in the same way. And then if anything, it's like American pride, Southern pride, regional pride. Like I I think they're like that rather than like regional pride. monolithic I think that whole thing is stupid as ████ >> I think whenever you say the same thing, it always makes sense where it's like they're ████ trying to flood you with racism so you don't notice classism.
9:21 Classism is what's all ████ about. You know what I mean? Because classism is what's what's dividing whites, period. >> But when it comes to like the context, you're right about the historical. Like when you think of the word white pride, like it's it's yeah, like right now it's being challenged, right? But historically, it's a word that's used by nationalists and like neo-Nazis. And then if you heard black pride, it goes, "Oh yeah, it's it's rooted in civil rights and all that." And then so like without the historical context, like the meaning just the word, maybe a foreigner would look at it and go, "Oh yeah, why can't they both >> Because cuz if it's going to go by popular answer, if you said who runs the world, it would say girls. >> Yeah, that's correct. >> Cuz that's probably the most >> Yeah, that's a good song. >> You know what I mean? Like it's that
10:11 thing where like if it's going by like pop culture, like what the average person would say, then by SEO, who run the world girls will probably be the top search. What if it says Israel? >> See, I wouldn't want answers like that cuz I wouldn't want cuz they're they market AI like it's supposed to be a calculator, right? So it would would tell you the truth versus giving you what the other people's answers are. And I'm like, I want it to give me the truth if we want AI to be better than what we have. >> But it's just compiling the hive mind, basically, and then giving you the best answer based on what the hive mind says. Whatever we So then the only way to combat that is to create If you want to change the word of white pride, then the people that want to do that, they just have to challenge it and reinvent it and put a lot of content up.
11:01 And then >> I just want the most unethical one, that's all. Cuz like the ethics is what bothers me the most. Like if Like when I was asking AI, like, "Hey, can you please sort out each Asian American race or ethnicity in America and let me know what felonies they've been convicted of most each?" And it just refused because it's like "Pairing races with felonies is not good for society." It's I don't give a ████ dude. I want to know. >> Did you switch Did you switch AIs to ask the same question? >> I just did the Google one and the ChatGPT one and Grok and they all said no. >> They all said no. >> Imagine you ████ typed out on a calculator 2 * 4. I can't tell you. I'm so ████ sorry. It's racist. It's like, what the ████ What the ████ is 2 * 4, ████ >> Just don't block the info because of ethics. It's cuz and that's not the >> No, but the the problem is that when the
11:53 the Asian people get committed of crimes, like when they get like booked in, they're all just listed as Chinese. That's it. There's no distinguishing. They're all just Chinese. >> Either Hispanic Latino or not Hispanic. >> They're like, we don't have any data. Sorry. I wish we had numbers for you. >> Do you know the reason why behind when you're filling out forms, it always wants to know if you're Hispanic or not? >> That's the main one. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Because >> Everything else Asian, Pacific Islander, whatever you have all of these details and then there's like Hispanic or not Hispanic. I'm like, wait, you just asked me all of these and you still want to know if I'm Mexican or not. I'm like, what the ████ >> They categorize white Hispanic and non-white Hispanic. >> What does it do for them? >> Yeah, what are they using that for? >> It's a census It's a old-school census thing. I think in New Mexico or whatever, there's people who identify as
12:43 white because they're all European but they're of the old colonial Spanish Mexico world or something like that. And then so because of It's like some old census ████ >> I just told Tyga to fill everything in. >> Cuz if they include that, they include that in so much stuff. I'm like, why do they need to know that everywhere? >> Cuz you can't figure out if a guy's Korean or Chinese.
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