0:00 [Music] welcome back to another episode of careful boys we have with us names [Applause] thanks for being here man thanks for having me yeah dude what's happening so this dude really great standing comedian if you guys have probably seen him ig uh funny stuff yeah i've seen him too he's just kind of popped up what's up yeah yeah the first clip i saw some of you on the explore page uh you're talking about asian hate and then you're also talking about how um you went to asian hate rally but then it was just like a supreme drop online i was like dude i like this guy yeah east asians are on top of their ████ supreme man i've never seen you all waiting in line yeah and then they're like oh ████
0:52 you drop give us some free ████ no it was fun i mean that that special that clip was actually like i think i started with that as like oh this is going to open the special like this is what i want to open with it and then i was i remember talking my a lot of comments on this ████ like aren't you asian like you guys don't understand comedy at all i'm just saying that so i can make this joke but uh my best friend one of my best friends in high school saw that that was like i remember that time those bit is about like this asian guy my friend johann probably shouldn't say his name but he's gonna have johan yeah yeah his parents want him to succeed his name twice he did he went to harvard he's ████ killing it right now but uh uh he got some uh white kid hockey player called him ████ and ████ johan was like
1:42 ████ that and he just slammed him into the wall i was like oh my and it was like y'all was a big guy so this hockey player just slammed into the walls like at that point i was like asians you can't ████ with these dudes man and i was like that from that point on i was like i mean i just remember that bit thinking this time i'm going to start the special off because i wanted to frame it around uh what was going on in the world at the moment i think asian hate is kind of like died down that that whole movement i don't know what's happened to it but the hate's still possible yeah that hit is strong but uh uh but people marching for it i don't know right now just us dude we still march we still march every week really yeah one sort of we'll explain later okay
2:32 that's all i'm thinking but yeah well thank you i'm glad that bit resonated some people didn't like it some people but that's just how comedy goes i feel like that's just what's been happening like online especially with comedy like there's like such a weird new group of folks that it's like where did you come from that that all of a sudden people stop understanding comedy i think it's just uh the distribution of comedy has made it such that or comedy is made such that who wants something that resonates with them can go find it like if you want to only hear like uh positive things and and things that are like woke so to speak you can go find that and then the algorithm is designed to give that to you was a whack flex [Laughter]
3:22 flicks of wack flicks that sounds whack as ████ who wants to hear of happy ████ it's like hoorah sjw yeah are you a fan the thing is those people have been around like comedians have been around the internet has been around right but what we've seen well at least for me um the change is like right around the hillary trump um campaign people started getting way more like politicized and jokes weren't so cool anymore and things were happening like and then it got crazier and crazier and like i think in the height of kobe like people lost their sense of humor or something happened because people that used to laugh at the same jokes they completely flipped and now they're not cool with it or i don't know what it what happened do you find it do you find that like in the clubs where like i think people are more sensitive let me cut you off but i i don't i think
4:13 uh i think these stories of like uh and this is something i it's like sound like a uh what's it called a broken record but i think the stories of all that are kind of like over inflated i think this whole cancer culture thing and all that is like well well well uh uh is a lot smaller than people make it seem to be like you think like oh you can't say ████ anymore you can't say no that's not true at all like go come see me at the club this weekend it's like not that i'm saying like wild ████ just to say wild ████ but it's it's definitely not like oh boo none of that kind of ████ happened but it's ridiculous most of that stuff's relegated to online yeah for sure clubs yeah yeah no online we felt it where um our our videos would get like taken down some of the content we know like our
5:05 channel got suspended like things like that oh this one just kidding news this one yeah like like before um a lot of this stuff wasn't being regulated you know or like we would make a funny post on instagram and then the you know robots don't know satire sarcasm they don't know any of that stuff and then they they label it as violence or whatever because one time i said um my you know this guy was like dude how did you get your arms so big and i'm like i beat my girlfriend [Laughter] my ig account got put on probation and it was because of a photo here
5:56 my g went on probation so it just i couldn't make money off of anything like because of a photo here a photo here we were taking one outside and you were just like shirtless as usual and then under it was the ig story it wasn't even a post it was ig story i reposted an ig story and you're just naked in the front and then i just wrote sex sells oh my and then i went up my account went on probation for like eight months you like you look like a child when you're naked yeah yeah yeah he's got that tiniest little nipple i was like what the ████ it was probably it just went off probation like a month ago you read that google ████ where like some kid i mean some guy sent a picture of his baby's dick to the doctor and google like flagged at his child porn no way deleted his entire account reported to the cops and all that yeah yeah baby well yeah i mean his kid had a infection on his in his dick or whatever so the doctor was like just send me a
6:47 picture doctor you sent a picture and the google flag did this kid plug oh ████ ████ ████ got wiped out so it wasn't that bad gmail's watching dude ████ dick pics wow online does feel more sensitive because yesterday i just saw this dude some asian dude and it made me feel ████ like disgrace but he was trying to call out like tnfa like oh you know tina fey only makes these asian jokes look at uh mean girls look at this part oh my man shut the ████ up youtube like he's like digging up things because to me like comedy or pieces of art is made in context of that time right so if that was called at that time don't dig up something ████ 15 20 years ago like if we're more awoke now then we'll make comedy too or art that that that
7:38 matches the social sentiment of the day but when you're gonna dig up old ████ to me that's like the most b████-made ████ in the world yeah if you're gonna dig up old stuff you gotta appreciate it like you know old enough for kisses yeah yeah like clint eastwood did well some stuff remains timeless like asian jokes will always be funny if they're funny yeah you know what i mean yeah but like you can't ████ a 12 year old like it was 1958 you could do that it's different time in 1943 yeah yeah yeah before the war ended it was all good it definitely seems like if you're willing to bring yourself all the way to the club you probably have a higher chance of responding well to humor you know exactly rather than like the comments somewhere is just like all access to anybody so you're just going to attract all kinds of stuff what's uh what's cons what's most concerning is
8:29 the way people access comedy now like before it was like uh you know like you could watch four channels or whatever it was or you there's like 20 comedians who like doing huge things now it's like if you can get to like a 17 year old early or 16 year old early with like your comedy and your comedy is not necessarily like of old guard like rock and dave and all them then it's like if it's just like sjw so to speak stuff thanks you might be kind of those people might be uh impressionable and they're like this is what comedy's supposed to be it's like no comedy is just whatever makes you laugh like like you just haven't been in a position to to laugh at certain things or or been made to laugh at certain things so now you think that that thing isn't funny whereas whereas you've just been in your own echo chamber that's concerning me but beyond that it's like
9:20 all this cancer culture ████ all that is just gonna it's gonna pass like the pendulum always swings the other way and like we're seeing it now with like people who are blowing up now it's like people are saying the wild ████ and just for the sake of saying it and they can and they're doing great yeah and i don't know what's happening on this other side where it's like i don't know what any to use the term again sjw comedians who are like killing the game right now like i don't know i don't know anyone selling out you know clubs and ████ with that ████ this is how you know donald trump is a piece of ████ and yeah like that's all getting that even that feels hacky now you know yeah what do you think about the comedian andrew tate hilarious my favorite comedian but andrew t oh yeah i mean i don't know any of this
10:10 stuff i just know that he's been canceled or like they've kicked him off of youtube and facebook instagram yeah and i feel like that is from what i've heard about him seems fairly right because that's supposed to happen what people don't talk about is that i have i'm working a bit about this but it's like it goes back to how impressionable people's brains are yeah it's like mr rogers had it right you get to these kids early and teach them like ethics and values and all this stuff very early that carries forward throughout their lives yeah andrew tate is gonna be talking ████ about this how you treat women and throw against a wall and this and that it's like you're talking to a 15 year old kid this kid like think about the ████ you learned when you're 15 how wrong it might have been and the stuff that you were wrong about and that's just stayed in your brain like that that doesn't get talked about enough about like how easily manipulated a kid's brain could
11:00 be so andrew tate being kicked off of that ████ i'm perfectly fine with it because he's it's targeting kids like 15 12 13 14 years old or whatever boys whose brains are easily warped and that kind of stuff yeah i thought uh in fifth grade i thought a rich man had a low rider with rims that was the epitome of wealth you're partly right did you grow up on mr rogers too no no my parents indians ████ but they said you can't watch that ████ they're an indian equivalent no white man is teaching you nothing because when i took away from that show as a kid i was like man this ████ takes off a jacket dude i got another jacket that's my favorite part oh my goodness guys how many you jackets see his whole wardrobe every time that's that's how they live he wears shoes in the house he has clothes for outside and the inside yeah that's crazy why not cardigan
11:52 he has pajama cardigans and everything there's no indian equivalent no it was just uh mr rogers was cool i'm just saying like like a role model or something yeah if you watch that documentary if you have seen it but if you watch that doc like the biggest takeaway for me was like he was just saying like kids are impressionable you have to get to them early and if like andrew tate is going to take the spot ████ he's the newest rogers yeah he's ████ if he's taking over then he's got to go because that's not right imagine ████ hezbollah was not youtube videos teaching children how to behave well i think i think that's okay i'm a big fan so uh is okay for the kids so this is why this is why israel shouldn't exist it's either hammer alex jones you know so yeah yeah you gotta pick your i like hasbro those are our top three i like him when he was playing with the pigeon
12:42 and his old arch nemesis got together and they were petting a pigeon together i'm talking about you're talking about the little kid yeah i'm talking about hezbollah [Laughter] nick's like no i ████ with this dude is different from hezbollah y'all talking about the pigeon and ████ this guy's like what the ████ you guys want to talk about the taliban borah had a funny one where he dude he went into that store and then borat he went into a store and he was because there's hummus and there's hamas and then he's like why do you have a hammer why do you sell for the
13:33 terrorists yeah basically hummus and hamas we're gonna strike that from the record now we're gonna leave it in yeah we're gonna find zuma we're pro he's like oh you're typing the little kids i was like he's actually 19. okay did you grow up in new york i grew up in jersey oh jersey 40 minutes outside of man uh parsippany new jersey greatest town in the world uh when i went when i was why is it the greatest town in the world i'm just saying it's just fantastic mad indian ████ mad asian ████ it's just uh uh if you wanna talk logistically it's 40 minutes from the city but it's got fantastic schools do you still live there no no my parents lived there still but like let's say you were to settle down would you move back over there
14:23 by's about to convince you to move to vegas for no reason no no no uh he pitches everybody me may i if i were if i were of the mind to move to the burbs part of me would definitely be a consideration but only because my parents were there my entire like a lot of my extended family is there oh like i grew up surround like i grew up learning that the way to live was to have family as close as possible yeah yeah and i think uh uh that is something i never want to lose because like i see like people now who have to you know raise a kid or two with like grandparents far away or whatever i'm just like i understand that and that's a interesting position to be in but it's definitely i want to like drop my kids off i don't have any kids but drop my kids off my grandparents my parents place like all right peace out me and my wife we're gonna go hang out for like three hours or whatever okay you know just like and like have that influence on them and i grew up
15:14 i say in a special but i grew up like surrounded by my cousins so i never felt this sense of uh other that i think indians and east asians like a lot of people feel i think like i'm not sure if you guys have felt that way but i never felt other from the sense i was weird to be indian i always felt other than the sense like i don't want to be like every other indian you know i mean like it's a difference is there a huge indian community in your neighborhood yeah and is it all your family members or that's the whole community yeah no parsippany parsippany has probably got outside of edison i would i would and i don't quote me on this from uh actual it's probably the second largest indian population in new jersey for sure outside edison it's huge um and it's a lot of newer money it's like it people now but when i when i was there it was it was still big but it's not what it's now
16:04 like now they got patel brothers they got like 12 different restaurants it's massive but when i was there i think what attracted people to parsippany when i when my parents moved there uh my grandparents moved there it was like they're like one indian store and that was enough to be like go get indian groceries they have they had an east asian grocery store in like room 46 so that was enough to have like east asians move there so it was just like that epicenter kind of just grew and grew and grew and now is that store still there are the indian stores yeah for sure yeah of course it's a good community yeah yeah it's a it's a i think you change owners but it's like a it's a almost not a strip mall but like slightly smaller strip malls like four joints like dunkin donuts owned by new people indian restaurant an indian restaurant you need bankroll an indian grocery store all in the same
16:54 like i saw your stamina about duncan were you talking about chilling in the parking lot hell yeah man saying you're about to start your shift i love that joke man what were you doing before comedy right before i graduated in uh 08 college with a finance degree and so no it was bad what's that you hated it no it's not that haiti i just like i had like a three four three five at nyu which is like decent but it's not three seven which is all my friends had and they went to like goldman and buckley's and all this kind of ████ and so i was just like underemployed i recruited or i interviewed at like two investment banks and then didn't either get didn't get either one of those jobs because i you know i wasn't the best interviewer in a recession right yeah yeah um and then i was so like after i graduated i was
17:44 like i don't have a job how the ████ am i gonna do i like was underemployed i took like an internship at uh no i took a temp gig at bloomberg and then i took an internship at uh uh the economic development corporation new york city and none of those were like oh i gotta do this for the rest of my life kind of thing um and that was bored got on stage in august of 2009 like at an open mic in jersey and just like s████ and giggles randomly yeah i mean like i took a writing class at nyu yeah uh like have to graduate you know they do like like 10 week classes whatever took one of those and it was like really sappy i was like this ████ is corny as ████ like i don't want to ████ hear my parents you know what [Laughter] and uh that didn't that didn't like compel me to keep going and then i was just like i always with my cousins i was always a funny one and like funny like in a mean
18:34 way but uh everything like a roaster yeah yeah roaster and like talking ████ and like saying goofy ████ you know but that was enough [Laughter] and i just got on stage and it was like you know i was like oh this i could do this this doesn't seem that hard that was really it was it was really just like this doesn't i never had stage fright the whole like fear period yeah i never had stage fright in the sense that i don't like looking people looking at me hmm well you know like the stage fright like i don't know if this material is going to work or like man i hope they like this yeah but it's never like oh my everyone's looking at me it was never that it was just like man that joke didn't ████ man like that was
19:24 concerning but never like uh uh a fear of like sweating and people looking at me in a weird way and like oh what are they thinking about me that no that never bothered me so i just got on stage and uh like i said i had 16 first cousins they all came to my first show it was an open mic where you had to bring people oh i was like well all right i'll stack this ████ deck and uh that was it yeah yeah that was it it was like it was a pack night and then uh that was august 19 2009 so like like 13 years and four days ago baby but what about like the monetization model because it's like you you go on stage it's free right some of them you got to like it's like you drink minimum yeah you got to pay like how about like getting it to the point where you're like ████ i'm unemployed but i also need to make money like how
20:14 did you make it into a way you can like live off of well that didn't happen until i didn't make money doing comedy i still barely make money doing comedy but uh uh i was once i got the bug to be on stage i was like all right i got to be in new york like everyone's like you gotta be in new york and i was like close enough so for about a year and a half i was just taking a bus from my parents place to new york city to do open mics and ████ like underemployed making no money like or not making any money at all got an internship at my friend's hedge fund and so that kept me in the city during the day so then at night i could go do open mics and stuff it's like batman yeah yeah just like it finance man and uh and then through that internship like with that experience on my resume i got
21:05 an assistant job at a hedge fund so i was just like printing ████ and like making copies all kind of ████ but it was in the city it was in like 40 minutes outside of new york north so i could move to the city and like commute to work and then come back and leave at like five o'clock uh from that job and hit open mics and i did that for like that type of ████ for a very long time uh until 2016 i was at a family office uh as like an associate um like looking at investments and stuff for trial in africa and all that kind of ████ and then that company closed and luckily like i was looking for work like cause we got like a six month notice ████ was closing and within that six months like chris rock saw me was like hey man you're really funny three months after that he's like you want to write for the oscars i was like yes and then three months after that i was in la uh like literally literally like three
21:55 days after my actual job ended i was in la riding with chris rock for the officers whoa and that was my first writing job and then for like and then after that happened i was like oh yeah i'm i made it baby i'm right for chris rock oscar's happened governor's balls like uh right after the right off the oscars like uh sunday night monday night i thought fame and fortune would come knocking i'm at the comedy store open mike eating dollar pizza hoping to get on like it was like that and i was like all right so that's the reality of comedy uh and then for like six months i was looking for work i got a job with hassan you know on his congressional correspondence dinner which was before the last correspondence dinner and then uh um for like three four months i was like ████ what am i gonna do like i gotta go back into copyright i got maybe i can
22:46 use this oscars job as a copywriting job get me something still that pays bills and all ████ that didn't happen uh and then i got an email from this woman named tina who used to come to my show bar matches which is where chris rock saw me tina you made me saying hey i'm working for this girl named aquafina uh i like what you do uh do you want to help write on her show uh her go 90s show i don't know if you know this enough but uncle finna had a go 90 show which was like a verizon network show it was like a talk show yeah yeah and so i think season two or three i don't think maybe four i don't know what season it was it was like me and uh uh her other uh head writer like and that was like that job paid like nothing but it was enough for me to be like all right you know what
23:36 i'm gonna do comedy like ████ all this i'm gonna just things will work out and if it doesn't that doesn't like i'll go back to being assistant or some ████ but right now for the next few months and that was like september the next few months september 2016 for next few months i'm gonna just do comedy ████ and see what happens um and then you know like comedy seller had a bunch of i was passed at the cello that summer so like i was getting a lot of work there and i was like helping pay rent a little bit and then like comedy sellers tv show that was popping off and i was like good at the seller so they were like oh you want to do this do you want to do that i was like yes let's just keep going and i was paying the bills and that that just kept me motivated enough to keep going and then uh yeah that's it really that so like the payment of comedy amid turning into a a business like what is not said often enough is that comedy like stand up for sure and any
24:28 pursuit in comedy is like highly entrepreneurial was like you got to either make your own way and you got to pray for a lot of luck because i got i got very lucky i was in the right place at the right time a lot of times like had i never done that show at broken comedy at bar matches like that girl tina would have never seen me rock but i've never seen or they might have not seen me at those times and like it was just like you know a lot of it was failing forward but it was like a lot of it was just like striking the opportunity was hot and uh that was it and then 2017 september you know i got a text from my boy jay he was like hey congrats you're writing for snl now wow michael chan yeah yeah that's my guy wow and i was i was on i was writing a pilot for a sketch show um and i had to leave that pilot yeah obviously uh to write
25:19 for snl and that was september 2017 to may 2018 and then [Music] uh that ended and i didn't get renewed which hurt but it was like all right that's that happens and then i was like all right now it's got to stand up i guess and i thought as being the first indian to ever write for snl uh that again like fame and fortune would come knocking yeah yeah yeah but that that didn't mean ████ you know that doesn't mean nothing it was just like all right good for you are you pretty cutthroat over there it's not cutthroat i mean i mean i was on the update team so it was a little different you hear you hear war stories from people who aren't there but it's like any other job where it's a it's a high-pressure job like i'm sure you guys have worked like high-pressure jobs you know it's just like you got to get your ████ done and everybody on youtube is pretty crazy
26:11 get your videos up but no it's like it was just uh uh from that that's like july i think july 2018 uh the day the day i got the call i wasn't going back was the same day i had to run my set for the seth meyers booker uh to do their show so it was just like i know time to process that did that show literally the next day i had to go do a week of uh road work at winnipeg comedy work comedy rumors comedy club in winnipeg and uh i feel like i'm doing last call with on that late registration album [Laughter] you know it's crazy you say like you know uh whether it be like luck or being in the right place at the right time but it also sounds like you had extreme
27:02 dedication for a long period of time from ups and downs man that's what i respect like it's cool that you point out how many times you have to like rework all over again yeah and it's not just like one graph line going up yes that's the truth though you can't like relax and just be like coasting people only see the results they don't see what goes on behind yeah yeah there was never uh right at one point it was like all right it was like a point of no return you know like after that after that aquafina gig was like all right well no one's gonna hire you when the finance world if you've been mia for like seven months eight months you know what i mean like yeah that gap is almost unexpected you like and you can't go from being an associate like looking at investments and stuff to then being like oh i want to be an assistant like that doesn't happen yeah you know so and if you want
27:52 to continue on the associate path which might have been i might have been able to pursue you gotta forget comedy because you know finance is still a ████ 14-hour hour day at that at that level you know it's like how to combine it dude comedy and finance entrepreneurship [Laughter] finance bro yeah i think the real question here is was it your jokes that got will smith to smack man you wrote that jaded joker you wrote that i would i would have been a lot meaner i would have been a lot more than chris was for sure being so close to chris rock how did it feel i mean it must have felt way different because for me like um we do our form of comedy here right but for me like comedy it's like the sacred thing where it's like we everyone should be able to ████ around because we know none of us really mean it we're just
28:43 explaining and exploring different thoughts and ideas yeah so for someone to like so to me like comedy is like the floor is lava the floor is lava right and then so for will smith to take something personal who's supposed to be a comedian too and go that's not lava that's carpet right i'm like ████ you ruined the whole ████ so like for me that's where where my or my anger came from for you like how did you feel being so close to chris rock and kind of seeing him kind of like i don't know do an anti-comedy act it was you know i remember where i was it's like buildings [Laughter] i was in the green room at the addison improv in dallas texas and i was right about to go on and i was only washington because i think i just had it on in the background like in the green room and then they're like oh chris rock is up next is chris rock i was like okay now i
29:35 gotta watch because chris is gone and uh i turn it on i'm like oh this is gonna be good chris comes out i think says two or three jokes and then says the the jade one you wrote him [Laughter] sick line bro and thank you at first you know like because when we were when i wrote on the oscars in 2016 we would definitely do sketchy like there was definitely bits where like you know people do some ████ from the crowd so first i thought like i didn't didn't look like a real slap it looked like a tv slap for a second like there's no way that he just hit him for real but then when they cut the audio feed i was like oh this is real like because they don't cut the audio unless that ████ is like happening in real time and then and then you could see what will smith was saying like keep my wife's names out your ████ mouth and that was bleeped and that was with no audio and i was like oh ████ like that
30:27 just happened like that was some real ████ that just happened i immediately felt like i i lost all respect for uh will after that because like will was like growing up was like i'm sure it was for a lot of you guys the ████ dude yeah it was watching it was like watching my uncle slap my dad like you know what i mean like yeah yeah like what the ████ how the ████ does that happen and like like i know a lot of people on chris were like not swinging back and all this kind of ████ it's like that's the most professional person on the planet i think that was the way that he did the right thing of course and he keeps yeah it was like the greatest moment in television history or something like that yeah yeah and it was just like such a crazy thing to witness i think i went on stage and i said almost exactly i was like that what a b████-ass dude
31:18 will smith is and it feels like now if i see him do i gotta fight him you know like feels like one of those moments like do you fight this dude now because and then he gave us that soft-ass apology like two minutes ago i am ashamed of myself yeah the box water and ████ books on it can't shut up will you making money on apology bro you play an apology yeah you saw that he hit the box water on his ████ table brand dealers apology video yeah damn that's genius that's entrepreneurial though yeah yeah you gotta make money every way you can comedy and finances
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