0:05 Welcome back to another episode of The Careful Boys. Hey, who's like a famous person you guys genuinely thought was dope and you liked them and then they got exposed for something? Chris Tucker. For real? Love Chris Tucker. >> Okay, what was he exposed for? Epstein stuff. >> See, and that makes it made you think like But he says he didn't know what the hell was going on. So you think you So you're saying everybody that has anything to do with the files or the flight log, you don't like them no more? It's not that I don't like them, it's just I can't trust them. >> How come you still like Epstein himself then? I'm a fan of his work, what can I say? No, like when I saw 2 Chainz Yo, not 2 Chainz. When I saw Pusha T, I love Pusha T. And I saw that he was on the Epstein files, I was like, "How was Pusha T on Epstein Island?" In what context was he on there? There's a There's eyewitness listening to his music on the plane. Yeah, yeah. There's a eyewitness
0:56 report. I don't I thought he was getting girls for like Jay-Z and Diddy or whatever. That's what it was. It was like he was like bringing girls for like in That was like a And pa? But But Tucker's Tucker's explanation was they were all going somewhere to do some sort of nonprofit charity event and they're like, "Hey, just jump on this plane. Everyone's going to be on it." So he's like, "Oh ████ okay." >> Yeah, sure. And like I mean that happens to us too. We just jump in a bus with people and we find out later they're like a fraud or whatever. You just don't know. Yeah. That's true. Now, I'm not condoning Epstein or whatever. I'm just saying like a lot of Check Barquane's name right now, dude. But it's just you just don't know half the people you're with them sometimes. >> No, you're right. You're right. No, that was more of a joke than anything, but um But I think you just have to be careful on who you really enjoy. Who's your the celebrity then? Conor McGregor? That was a big one then. Was it the tear comes out of my eye? He was on No, he was on Epstein. No, no,
1:47 no, not Epstein. Just So the prompt, celebrities that you loved you loved that he was on a rise and then And he turned into some crazy mofo. >> Then he's just wildin' out there. He's just punching old guys a bar. You're just like, "Dude, this guy has a drinking problem." Mine is Tom Hanks, honestly. Tom Hanks? Woah, what happened? >> You're a big fan of Tom Hanks? >> Actually, I might I might feel you on this one. >> like Tom Hanks. I like all the roles he plays. I like all the movies he plays. Um he he makes and then starting during COVID with the like weird glove picture to the Pizzagate to all the Wayfair stuff. I just can't stop but shake I can't I just can't shake that like the the contamin- the association that I have now. Much cuz it even came down to like the Wilson ball from Cast Away and that logo being reprinted on different people's like outfits. >> He was the first celebrity that got
2:37 COVID, right? Like wasn't he like one of the first big >> Yeah, he was like one of the first ones that to actually it was a serious thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, oh my god. He has COVID. So I just I just can't shake it. And then you know like when it when you know people in real life when people are too perfect and too squeaky clean, they usually have the darkest skeletons in their closet. And I'm like, "That guy is ████ squeaky clean." And then he has a crazy ass son, too, right? Doesn't he like make reggae or something? >> chilled out. He's doing >> And you're just like, "Man, I don't know. I just it's just hard for me to shake that feeling." >> But he likes reggae? No, he does like No, he makes like he makes reggae or whatever. >> Yeah, he speaks like what's the Jamaican patois? Like yeah, you just don't think He go he calls people "bombaclaat". You don't think the son of >> Did he grow up in Jamaica? Like the s- Imagine the son of Tom Hanks comes Island Boy or some ████ You're like,
3:27 "What the f███?" I believe he coined the term >> of what kind of dad are you? He coined the term uh it's a white boy summer. Dude, A-list A-listers' kids turn out ████ up though, dude. Yeah. How could they not though? And he Sometimes that kid gets interviewed and then the whole time he's just talking about his relationship with his dad and then it's like seems like it wasn't that strong. >> that's one of the ones I'm like, "I just can't shake it. I want to, but I just can't." It's true. It's not It's not so much that you believe all of it. It's just it's a association in your mind now. Forrest Gump. I know. Here's the bangers. All it takes is the next big like controversy that pops up. I ████ knew it. You know, it'll be like that. Yeah. I don't want to though. I don't want to. Yeah. But his name is associated with some pretty bad stuff. >> Crazy ████ I will say it not to say that I like revered this human so deeply or was so culturally impacted, but I think the dynamic of of this is also really
4:18 interesting is Stephen Hawking. I just Oh. I just didn't know especially like after his death all these images like it's kind of it's kind of wild. Dude just chilling on the on the chair with those two babes. It's crazy. Ridiculous. Or even the AI ones of him built like it's just He had to be. He probably can't even touch himself. >> Or even before those files recently got released like there was that one of the there's like that video meme of like a girl giving dome and then it's like the way that she's doing it suddenly cuts to him and he's like Oh, anyways. A lot of and a lot of celebrities that just I've never seen that meme. I've never seen that meme. Don't make me play it. You might have to now to to clear your name. No, a lot of celebrities too that just open their
5:08 mouth. Makes me go, why did you just should have kept it shut? >> Like who? I felt like that about uh Seth Rogen. Oh, really? What did Yeah, just cuz like I don't know. It just was like kind of ████ it's a small thing. But like because we're we're like from LA it just kind of ████ bugged me like cuz Casey Neistat had had tweeted about how like uh like his car kept getting broken into or something cuz it was getting stolen. And then um Seth Rogen uh he respond he like responded and said Oh yeah, so Casey Neistat's cars got robbed this morning and uh and then Seth goes, "Dude, I've lived here for over 20 years. You're nuts. It's lovely here. Don't leave anything valuable in it. It's called living in a big city. And I think it was so ████ smug and he and then like it contrast the way that he I guess like invested into his Hollywood
5:58 character. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> His like movies where he's like the likable guy. And I was like, dude, you ████ are not from LA and you're just telling people that like it's a byproduct of like you're just going to settle with that that like we should get jacked all the time. Yeah, and it's called living in a big city like he's dumb. Uh Tokyo's an even bigger city and I guarantee you you can have bought valuables in your car and you're not getting broken into. >> Yeah. >> But it's also like I I it just annoys me when people that like they don't live in the same class level as you and they're trying to and they're trying to tell you like in your neighborhood that's like definitely more of a risk that like it's you're you're the problem because you don't ████ look at it a certain way. Super attitude. >> Instead of just like people shouldn't steal, you know, like it's ████ ████ So after that I'm like, this guy's not ████ funny to me no more, you know? Victim blaming. Yeah, it's
6:48 just cuz like it's small Yeah. Oh, damn. That that must feel really good. ████ sucks cuz he can't defend his image. He's dead. Damn, that sucks, Anthony. Like people who could just make fun of him. Yeah, whoever made this is they're not going to heaven, but I didn't make it. Have you made that face before? This one? I've made this face before. Like this. It's easier. He's like, hold on, let me look again. For me it was Adam Carolla. I really liked his show Adam like hates everything and I was like, oh this guy's got a funny show. >> Adam hates everything? >> Wait, was it Adam Carolla? >> You're thinking Are you thinking of Adam Ruins Everything? >> No, Adam the one that he does all those review. No, Adam Carolla was the ████ radio
7:38 host. He's cool. Adam Carolla is great. >> Yeah, yeah. Yeah, who's the other guy? He went on Rogan and I was like, >> the white guy with the stupid. >> was ████ an idiot. Yeah, I like Another Adam? He's from Adam Ruins Everything. >> Adam Ruins not Loves Everything. Yeah, but he would like it was kind of like MythBusters and ████ Like he would debunk certain things. What was his bad take on? It was like he was like Penn and Teller ████ for like other topics. >> Yeah. Yeah. So to see him have like a really Well, so he had a YouTube channel and I was like, oh this is weird. So I guess he's maybe representing like he's echoing what people believe in Hollywood and that's fine and it's very LA. But then he went on Rogan. And he started talking about all these things that he had no idea what he was saying. And when he was pressed on the issue, he would just like kind of ████ up. And he just doesn't know what he was talking about. And then so it was like about trans issues, it
8:29 was about like gender issues, it was like everything that like on the surface you say all the right things that you're supposed to say. Like, oh yeah, girls could be as strong as guys and whatever. And it's like fine, but then when you're on a place like Rogan, he's going to test you and be like, "What makes you say that? Uh, where did you get that information?" Or just like prove your point. He couldn't do any of it and he just like talked in circles and backtracked. And I was like, dude, he's so weird. Yeah, he wasn't like it would felt like it it let us down cuz I love >> Because he's so strong about it. >> And he seems so smart in his episodes because you know, like it's scripted, it's produced, it's directed. And then when he's like on a candid moment actually having to like defend these points, he just broke down. He just wasn't good at talking, you know? Kind of like what happened to Nick Searcy a little bit? But Nick Searcy wasn't ultimately wrong. He just That's just not his forum. Yeah.
9:21 But But But yeah, Adam's points kind of like the same points that he'd make on a show in the Rogan conversation, he was losing them all. I was like, ████ So I think he's a great presenter and maybe like a he memorized a script and then he did that. But then like when it came down to producing his own thought, how he arrived at this conclusion, um and then, you know, on the fly being able to respond like simple questions. It was just like he didn't know he was but I think also how hot his take would not like how hard he would defend it and like he was so sure. That's what was like such a big letdown cuz it's like you actually don't know anything you can >> Carolla Oh, wow. Yeah, that's what >> So was he trying to if I remember correctly, was he trying to defend that like women can do any sport guys can do
10:11 and they would be like >> Yeah, it was like things like that. It was all Yeah, it was like Something similar to that, yeah. But then and then Rogan's like >> Something with something with trans in sports or like how the how it's not an unfair advantage of like a trans is in a women's sport. And then Joe Joe Rogan I think pressed him also on like early like transitioning and the health effects and then he was like talking about how like you probably shouldn't give minors like injections and hormones and things like that and then Adam was just so sure that it was okay. >> He kind of started parroting too, you know, when people don't know what to say so they just keep repeating the same fact that they heard and uh he started doing that and I was like, "God, man." I was hoping he'd have like I didn't want him to lose. I was like, "Dude, I just want to hear some good points." But it didn't happen. But it was just a big letdown because I think the you know, when some people communicate there's they're like really smug about certain things and they're kind of like
11:01 condescending and then like it's actually not a good debate cuz you're not learning anything and then you're like, "Oh, man, like this guy is actually not a likable person." I think that was a big letdown cuz I liked his show a lot. Yeah, he didn't come back after that. >> Nope. Do you have anybody, Anthony, or you just want to He loves everybody. Uh I mean, I'll say like Will Smith. Yeah. Damn. He's a big slapper. Just even I feel like a lot of things. The The that whole thing went down made me hate him. Every every way that we grew up with him and saw him all the way to maybe like I Am Legend. And then suddenly like everything just felt weird and something that I didn't necessarily want to be like inspired by anymore or >> Prince of Bel-Air. Yeah, you know, and
11:51 and same thing. It's like rap song he came out with? >> Yeah, his newer rap songs to like him just like taking it from his wife about how she's banging some other dude to like, you know, like yeah, the slap >> man for so long and he's just not he's just not, yeah. >> But you know what? Like if I if I zoom out and I don't put him on the pedestal that I once had, I'm like you're a regular dude. Like I really don't give two s████. But because he was somewhere like right here really just huge in my childhood that like seeing it later I'm like, man Sometimes maybe it's our fault. Maybe it's like we put him on like I put I put Tom Hanks on a pedestal. Yeah. Like Will's Will's situation, it's it's sadly understandable. It's just not what you like. And that's what makes you feel so like, ah man, to me. >> things where like I agree. you look at his situation, you go, oh man, I feel
12:42 bad for you. And it's kind of like pathetic. And then you would think that someone like him should probably deserve a loving wife. And it's the relationship that makes me go, oh ████ I've seen this before and it's usually by simp ass dudes that like are not in good relationships. Yeah, or or it seemed like your whole childhood like dude, this guy's so in control. But then when he slapped Chris Rock like this guy is not in control at all. But if his if his kids love him and they're all good, like who gives a ████ Like at the end of the day Yeah, his kids are a little weird, bro. But if they if they all love each other, like I you know, power to you. I I could I could give you I I could really give a ████ For me, like what somebody who was like at one point really a role model. Like watching him go through school made
13:32 you want to go through school a certain way, you know? So, it's like that that kind of like deep connection, which I give him props for. Even like all the way through his like Men in Black era and stuff, that was just so pivotal to us. Yeah. This one clip of him, he was very vulnerable and he was crying, but he was talking about his relationship with Jaden. And I'm like, damn, like this is like like some Asian ████ Where like he said he was so hard on Jaden and he wanted him to make Karate Kid so bad because he knows how that movie business works. So, he's like, you make one good movie, you're ████ set for life. Royalties for life, right? So, he wanted to set Jaden up with that as a kid. So, he doesn't have to worry about the rest of his life. But that one movie ruined his relationship with his kid cuz he pushed him so ████ hard that like it has a eternal wedge. He could never His kid
14:22 could never come to him for any like the stuff that you need from your parents, any consoling, or anything like that. And you just see him like like ball, and you're like, ████ that's crazy. And I'm like, you totally get it cuz when you're a parent, you want to solve all your kids' problems, right? You're like, if I could set you up early, here's this ████ apple tree that'll provide apples for you for the rest of your life. Meanwhile, you ruin the relationship for the rest of your life. >> That's the thing with him. Like I get him and like to a strong degree, I can still highly respect and enjoy him. He's just not like my favorite anymore. Like I don't like like it as much. >> He never should have jacket on. That is true. I think >> on. I think it's like the pedestal thing that we do with celebrities is what makes it kind of fun, too. Cuz like you want to do that. You want to like, you know, put them at a higher standard just cuz it's, you know, the part of the the whole like consumption of entertainment. But I think Will Smith
15:12 ended up doing ████ that was sub-regular dude. Yep. Is that. It's like you could just do the wrong ████ as a celebrity. Whatever, but life. But when you're like ending up less than just a normal guy with a regular life, I was like, ah, dude, come on, man. >> It felt weird. >> Yeah.
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