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Jussie Smollett Has Been Released from Jail Pending an Appeal (ft. Don Tran)

#hatecrime#socialworkers#jail#empire#sentence
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0:00 [Music] and juicy smolier big fan big fan do you watch empire uh power or empire empire right i love he's my favorite character uh was sentenced to five months in jail for falsely claiming he was a victim of a hate crime but literally one hour ago he walked out of jail and still faces an uncertain future what why no why is he walking out of jail so he walked out of chicago jail after serving six days less than a week dude yeah uh from what's uh in terms of uh how did this even ████ i'm just reading it's news that just came out right now to be honest we're gonna do just like the covering the article in general and then i just yeah and then i just googled it and it's like he just walked out of jail like what the ████ is that's pretty

0:50 crazy um so the former star of the tv show empire was sentenced last week to 150 days in jail plus probation and a fine after a jury found him guilty of lying to police about being a victim of a racist anti-gay attack in downtown chicago in 2019. his release late wednesday came hours after an uh apolog how do you pronounce that appalachian tell it there it is appellate uh uh ordered he could go free during the appeal process which wouldn't be completed before sommelier uh had served his full sentence juicy sommelier did it because of the uh what is it the plea or whatever where they release him and now pending the appeal yeah and then now now they determine whether he goes back in or not yeah but it's a it's an undisclosed and uncertain amount of time you know it's so funny dude so i thought this was an absolute

1:41 joke right and then um i saw the los angeles blm saying free smolier right and i was like no the actual blm instagram was promoting that and when you look into the comments everybody like a hundred percent of people were like okay you have time to delete this right now this is a bad look everybody dude this one is a little bit of a stretch i can't stand by this like the comments were ████ hilarious it's pretty ████ funny but like this one we can't back up you know and it's like because he's the first black man in history to commit a hate crime on himself yeah that's so he's still denying it too which is crazy he's denying that he did it he's he's mentally ill or something dude the entire time he's held to his truth that he had not done that and um it was an actual attack yeah actually believes him too right i don't know or they

2:32 politically need to support him somehow yeah yeah yeah well i believe that there's a group that does believe that no one should be in jail period so they don't believe in the jail process at all and i think a little bit of that crept into the republic where they don't really believe in criminal punishment they believe in rehabilitation and all these other things and so uh with that in mind that specific subset of believers think that him being in jail in the first place no one should be in jail what do they believe in if you rape someone you take them to the park or what like but the most logical like with their reasoning is probably like you know you need to rehabilitate these people and not criminalize them what about when someone fakes a racial hate crime that's probably a psychological issue you know what do you do with that but holds true to their

3:23 entire story some people think social workers can fix anything i think it'd be hilarious to just charge him with a hate crime on himself because that's what he essentially did i think it sucks for for people to always be like no man social workers should handle it but like what if social workers don't want to handle that one they usually don't they usually don't yeah the people that are they yeah like they like jill's sisters a social worker and you know some of the environments that she has to go into she's like i'm not walking until the cops are here it's like really big because it can get crazy real fast you know under the conditions of the sentence imposed by cook county judge james lynn smallett must now serve the 30-month probation though he may leave the state and travel without restrictions so he's free that means he could travel to places like los angeles and new york to try to resurrect his career so nothing's gonna happen to him for what he did i feel like what he did

4:14 he should go to jail for at least a year bro like you can't ████ is that too harsh if you think about what he did right what that does is it basically creates more race tensions in this country that it's already not good that's what people are saying that he's trying to start a race war that's what the judge said yeah that's crazy man for what so you get some clout yeah that's why the judge would was like nah dude because you're stoking a really sensitive like fire at that specific time like the cause needs more of that just wait i'm sure something like that's going to happen anyway you know what i mean like and maybe somebody already knows that slips through exactly yeah he also just like almost discredited all the like work that black activists have done because like when you have a guy that's doing this stuff it's like well then

5:04 people go how many other black people are actually committing fake hate crimes on themselves and reporting it after this incident you know and it's not just black right it's also like um because he's also gay like that there's a whole anti-gay element uh involved as well so he tried to stack everything like black gay everything man yeah and here's the thing um during the trial smallet testified that i've lost my livelihood because of the charges against him as you should losing his role on empire but he has since worked behind the scenes writing directing and producing a film called b-boy blues no way maybe you could get a roll there that recently won apparently the fan favorite narrative feature award in the american black film festival how can we guys gonna see this movie i don't think it's the same b-boy but okay and then uh while work in front of the camera may be difficult to find smaller could get opportunities working behind the scenes particularly because he has a sister and other family members with

5:55 successful careers in the industry well i mean people still got to eat so i guess it's a little bit of a stretch to kind of be like well you shouldn't even be able to work because people all got to eat but at the same time well i think there's a difference between that and uh hey you had a 150-day sentence actually it's six days go back to work yeah that's true he needed yeah he there's there's absolutely if he did his time and he came back out he started his career back up i think that's different but like trying to like fake something potentially starting a race war i think you need to like pay your time six days back what's the poetic justice there's guys with duis that go in for longer than six days you guys are smoking weed in other states besides california jail for like 10 years for their life like 30 years that's so true i mean i know i know part of the argument is that they don't think he should be in jail because it just doesn't i guess he's not like a violent offender like you're not protecting society from him being in prison

6:47 technically it's what they're saying are you gonna fake a bunch of other ████ gets beat up for real though do you think that will probably happen i think what if he goes cries that's poetic justice that would really suck if that happened because he's not in a position to like tell on anyone now this letter from blm said that uh black lives matter stands in strong support of an alternative to incarceration sentence for justice mollet we applaud your long-held practice of imposing alternatives to incarceration sentences for virtually all class four felonies such as mr smalletts and encourage you to continue this practice in this case so i mean it's just i think it's funny to see a picture of him and says freeze moliere right because it's like come on should we free him but then the sentiment yeah it's there's this whole movement going on right now where people want to model like a scandinavian model

7:38 of uh you know reform which is like they have a great rehabilitation program where people that do commit crimes have a huge chance of not relapsing and going back to jail and then they get back into the community and i think they want to do that here but i'm like dude have you seen those comparisons where like someone will always say no look look at scandinavia look at norway look at all these places and then someone always goes you know those are predominantly white countries they don't let anybody in yeah it's like you can't base a country's happiness they're all white man like of course they're fine of course they're happy that's the key everybody looks the same you can't compare it because it's like no you can't one culture once one understanding low population they also have a lot of income for the size of what they are

8:29 yeah it's like there's so many factors to consider you can't just be like planet because i could just be like well look at china [Laughter] like that is a political stance look at china you know like that's look at papua new guinea they can do it they get along just fine it's like a different ████ country dude well madagascar car can happen you know like the ████ i don't give a ████ now more countries more hits more hits now that's what i call good governments volume one [Laughter] yeah i want to see people see free uh cain velasquez no i don't think so he shouldn't be free no he needs to be free man what he did was disgusting bro he was protecting his disgusting what you said last time yeah

9:20 dude i'm gonna free his i'm a big fan of kane but that's sad that you see like a guy like if we're gonna obviously completely different uh crimes right but you see you think of a guy like cain velasquez who's just like he's probably gonna be in jail for the next like 10 15 years do you think all right this is maybe i'm gonna fake anything i didn't say anything you think that no matter what no matter what okay unpopular probably uh if let's say um i'm gonna be extreme for the sake of the conversation if every crime was punishable by death every holy ████ and even if like you like a hate crime on yourself something where you're trying to protect your your daughter's dignity to actually stealing or whatever of course in every case by case maybe it's like really like that's ████ up that person didn't deserve died but do you think after a while eventually because of something so ferocious and extreme there may be like

10:10 enough of like a hive mentality to not do anything criminal well that would be demolition man the movie yeah and that was a good movie there it is i'm a writer you're you're plugging your smallest sister hit me up that system will only work if it's not controlled by people because obviously like immediately what i would think is well how do i become the decision maker of who dies so if i'm the judge or if i'm the ruling class party then i can say i don't like nick that much you know he's kind of like weird there's other guys here hey nick like i think you committed a crime and then it's like right he saw it i saw it yesterday i think he did yeah i know this is a joke but i feel like kind of attacked her no it's not it's kind of ████ up but that's literally a witch hunt it's just another case for bitcoin yeah i just got nervous i was like no i

11:00 didn't do anything i didn't do any crime all right fair enough then looks like nobody's dying today it's kind of weird because like when you when you see the jesse smallhead stuff and you're like it i don't know if everybody feels this way but like when i see somebody like being led out of jail for some something they actually did all i feel is like all the ████ that i did that i didn't get off like i got in trouble and i did my ████ thing it makes me just have like less empathy for someone else i'm just like dude i ████ get in trouble all the time like it's like when you get a parking ticket yeah and there's a ████ homeless trailer parked in front of your car that's been there two years they get zero tickets i'm getting this ticket really like it just makes you every thursday because of street sweeping you have more animosity for this ████ trailer but then like if you're trying to live a good life and you don't generally you know profit off crime then when you just see somebody get off for any reason it you don't have like a go easy on them thing it kind of also makes

11:51 me go like why am i following the rules yeah these guys are all getting away we're just gonna start stealing stuff bro honestly why am i being such a good citizen like i'm not really a like i'm not a free my homie kind of guy because i'm not in the ████ crime scene again like i don't do that ████ so i got a ticket for jaywalking well you should have because i was pasadena you

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