0:00 [Music] All right, question of the episode is uh how can Mexico get so good that people start jumping the border the other way? >> How can it become so good? >> Yeah. What could they do? >> Well, I think that uh I think that uh the streets fix up the streets and make it so difficult to drive in. >> Dude, I like Mexico. >> I mean sucks. Mexico sucks. city is the bomb though. >> Where? >> Mexico City. >> Mexico, bro. I I'll move to Mexico City. >> I could move to Mexico City. >> But the funny thing is being in LA, it's like it didn't feel that foreign to me when I went to Mexico. >> Yeah. >> It was just like >> What part though? What part were you at? >> Well, I was more like um Well, yeah. If you're in Tijuan and all that, it just is that's pretty crazy. But then if you
0:50 go more toward like Cancun and all that area, that feels a little bit different cuz it's more like east coast Mexico. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. So, does it feel like West Coast Mexico City? >> Different. >> Mexico City is amazing. >> I want to go to Mexico City. >> I never been. I never been. >> Is it like the New York City of Mexico? >> You know what? It felt like Well, we were staying in like the posh area, right? Where all like the rich Mexicans live, all like the >> Yeah, they're nice place. >> Yeah. Like they got money. >> Yeah. So, like obviously it feels it was like it felt really safe, but like the parks, >> the food, just how the architecture, how easy it is to walk around cuz it's in your old city, too, right? So, like the the way that the streets are and like how they develop and and how there's like Yeah. You're going to have your Burger King, KFC, and McDonald's and all the regular stuff, but then you're also going to have these giant cathedrals, art museums, like you know, like amazing
1:41 to do. >> So, lots of culture. >> So much. >> Yeah, that's great. But you guys went as travelers like going into like, you know, the touristy places like >> when I go I go to like, you know, the the It's like when somebody comes to LA, they're like, "Oh, I'm in f███." Dude, ████ Malibu was sick. >> Yeah, exactly. >> No, no, no, no, no. Mexico, not Malibu. I ████ dude, I would remember. He was ████ far, dude. I've also gone to Chihuahua, Mexico, M. Like, I've been to all those places, too. I love Mexico. >> Those are still little nice spots you're talking I'm talking about. Like, let's go to ████ the Mexico. You know what I'm saying? Go to the Palm Springs of Mexico. >> Riverside, Mexico. The Riverside of Mexico. You know, that's where it gets a little rough. It gets a little, you know, a little sketchy. The streets are weird. Like, is this a street? It's not a street. You ████ drive through it. The cop come and like, "I saw you." It's like, "Well, you didn't." Well, who they going to believe? Well, I guess you. So
2:31 then that type of ████ they need to fix. They need to fix that ████ They need to fix the corruption, the ████ you know, I I think if they start paying people well, what they deserve, you know, if they get raises and they can, you know, I think that would be great. >> Is there a minimum wage? What's the minimum wage? >> You know what? I don't know. But >> let's see. >> I don't know if that's a thing over there. You know, but my dad was telling me this weird ████ about like Mexico, they give you houses. >> I didn't know that. The general give you a house >> like a house. Like they give like like uh >> That's pretty cool. >> Yeah. You know, like uh uh government housing or whatever. They do that, but they give you a house. >> You know what I realized though? I never seen homeless people out there in Mexico >> and then they have free healthcare. >> Yeah. >> So that's what they have free healthare. >> They have free healthare. >> Everybody working. >> Yeah. Look that up. Well, they also have no health regulation cuz I remember going and they had a whole list of like steroids, ketamine, whatever. Like they
3:23 had it like on a A-frame. Like I was like, "What the ████ You can just buy that ████ >> It's free healthcare for uh it says for employed individuals." The crazy thing, the the um general minimum wage is $493 a month. >> Yeah, that's insane. >> Yeah. So that's like I remember being in high school making more money than my uncle. My dad was telling me that he says you make more money than your uncle. I was like, "What?" What you make in a week is what he makes in a month. >> But is is that like a paid disparity that's like relative to the economic exchange though? >> Of course. Yeah. You can still make >> That sounds crazy. That's like going to the Philippines and being like, "Dude, they make $48 a week." >> Yeah. >> But they could live on 30. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. But you're right. It is like that. Cuz I thought the same thing and then I realized like, well, cuz Yeah. Cuz then my uncle's check was like it is like like his number was like
4:13 and it's like technically it's like 10 bucks. I'm like oh okay >> cuz it looks it looks crazy. It looks crazy $10 US. >> When you when you get the Mexico ████ when you get like 100 bucks and like pesos you get like a ████ stack billionaire. But I don't I don't think Mexico is a uh it's actually wealthier than a lot of Southeast Asian countries or like they're they're they're cuz I remember going and and like I wasn't at a tourist trap and I'm still spending like everything is just half off. Put it that way. So like whatever it costs here, it feels like it's half off there. >> Yeah. >> So I'm like that's still not that cheap. If you think about certain Asian countries, it's not even half off. It's like 20 times divided by >> You know what's crazy is there's So in Mexico, you know how they got one of the richest guys in the world there? That one? Uh >> yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, there's like It says there's 14 billionaires in Mexico. You know how many billionaires there are just in
5:04 California? >> 186. >> Holy ████ >> 186. >> That's why California popping though. >> Ain't that crazy? Just in California. >> And they want to pay those California taxes. That's freaking nuts. If you're a billionaire, you could be a resident anywhere. That's crazy, dude. >> Well, if you're a billionaire, you could be a resident in California and not care. >> That's true. >> That that billionaire guy in Mexico has has 93 billion. >> That's sweet. >> God damn. >> Crazy, dude. >> 93 billion. >> I don't. >> So, biggest differences between living in Mexico and USA is one cost of living. Mexico is generally cheaper. Rent, food, healthcare, and services. US is higher wages, but also higher expenses. You make more, you spend more. Um, some American expats live rich in Mexico on basic US retirement checks. >> Yeah. Two is food culture. >> You know, Mexico, fresh, local, handmade, regionally unique. Street food
5:54 is legit and respected. US more processed options. >> The food alone will make me move to Mexico. >> Food culture is dominant. >> So good, >> bro. The food is crazy. Like, >> every every corner there's just a, you know, a lady just have a stand. Any kind of food. >> The secret is the sweat. It's dripping in and the meat. >> You know what I noticed though? Like the beef is still better here. I think like they have other products that were really good like seafood or whatever, but I I didn't think the beef was as good. >> I agree with the beef, >> but also >> but also like but you you didn't go to Sonora. Sonora is known for their beef. Sonora where I'm from, it's like they're known for their beef just like their carasa. Like it just tastes different. Like Tijuana style, that's not how we make it in Sonora. That's why when people are like LA has the best tacos, I'm like I'm the only one that's like saying nah cuz it's like I've tasted it's Tijuana style. You guys like
6:45 Tijuana style? to me style is very like very basic. It's like a lot of masa. I don't like the masa taste. >> What's the Sonora style? >> It's like what? Flour tortilla flour. >> It's Sonora Town. >> Sonora Town. >> Sonora Town. Sonora Town. >> So Mexico City, they do they do these like ribe eyes. >> Sonora Town. >> They they do these ribeye tacos. >> Style, you know, where they cut a whole slice of ribeye. It's like this big. Wow. >> It covers up most of the tortilla, right? >> Oh wow. >> And the tortillas are amazing obviously, but Mexico City specifically is like a real food town. Like it >> that's dope. And dude, the ribeye tacos alone, I'll be like, I'll move here tomorrow. >> I saw the um recently one of those taco shops got a Michelin star. >> Yeah, the one in Mexico, right? >> They do the ribeye tacos. >> It's like a style that looks so good. >> We went to um >> My dad is so mad about that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz he's like a ████ carnos connoisseur. So he's just like a ████ It's because
7:35 he slept with his sister. >> That guy gay guy, you know? >> Is he gay? Doesn't have to do with anything. You know what I mean? How do you ████ know that >> he's living in Mexico? Like, you know, the whole like cartel thing. Is that an actual thing where if you don't overstep your boundaries or you're not going to get messed with or is it still just like a constant danger to everybody? >> That's a good question. >> Let me see how to answer it politically. >> What the cartel are aren't really targeting the citizens much more. >> No, but they they do they don't target the citizens, but they do like target the business. the business is popping. They're like, "Yeah, we're going to you're going to owe taxes for this." Like, and they have to pay taxes to this. Not only the country, but also the cartel. >> So, like, >> so a lot of times they Yeah. Like they use their muscle to like take over a ████ business. You know what I mean?
8:25 And just like, "Yo, we'll protect you whatever you need if you ever get in trouble." Kind of like the mobs. They're like, "We need the three amigos." >> Yeah. So, they amigos, right? >> And you have you can't do anything about it. Yeah. But uh and then the whole thing right now is that they're fighting with is the the fact that they're the young generation is a little more reckless. And when I say reckless, it's like if I'm trying to take Bart out and Bart is standing in front of you guys, you guys are all going to be taken out because I'm trying to get him. >> So it's and they're not and they're not like, "Oh, let's just try to get him." They don't care anymore. Like they go there and they show up and he's in there. Like if they know he's in this room, they're going to blow up this whole ████ restaurant just because like then that's the thing that they're trying to fight against. old school cartel's like, "Bro, we never ████ with the people. Like, we just ████ with that one person. We only ████ with who's in the mix." But these young kids are like, "Listen to all these pesto plumas.
9:15 They're just ████ ████ They're just reckless. They're not They're not very clear. They're very more They're more reckless." >> That's why all these Americans are like tourists are getting killed in like these uh like Tulum. >> Yeah. Cuz they're Yeah, exactly. people that kill that >> cuz what happened is like they took out like one of the biggest ████ cartel members who have that old school thinking of like leave the leave the like it's bad for business and this and that and now the new generation is coming up and now you're going to see a little bit more of a reckless kill and that's what's happening and they're they're just wild ████ kids >> like killing Americans to mess with their businesses >> they're not they're yeah they're not thinking logically they're young dumb and they're just getting high now like nobody got high drug dealers never got high. >> That was the number one. You don't get high, you know? So, they just don't get high. Now, a lot of drug dealers are getting high. I I met this one guy that
10:05 was like selling coke and he was doing coke. I'm like, "How'd that work? How does that work?" Like, usually usually drug dealers don't like to ████ with people who do drugs. They're like, "Oh, if he can't control the habit, how is he going to control his business?" >> They don't. It's just like, it doesn't work that way, >> you know? But, you know, we're living in the weird time with the whole how the cartel >> So, like on paper, it seems like living in Mexico is better. you have like free healthcare and all that stuff. What is the incentive for people to give up the free healthcare to come here? >> Uh just the the fact that like >> it says affordable out of pocket care often without insurance. I don't uh this is a chat GBT though. >> Well, at the end of the day, let's face it, America is like we could say whatever they can say whatever they want about it, but it's like this is still the only country that like if you're doing a better job than somebody else, you can take their job. >> It doesn't matter right here. It's all it's like a business. It's like, yo, if
10:56 >> like a meritocracy, >> if you're m Yeah. If you're making if you're going to benefit me with business, then you're going to get that job. And that's Mexicans are the types that are like, "Well, I'm going to work hard to get that job." And so that to them, they're not afraid of work. They're like, "Oh, all I do is got to work hard to get this position. That's all that's what I'm going to do." You know? And some people are like, "I don't want to be at the sun." They're like, "F███, I'll ████ risk my body for my family." You know, like there's a cool video that >> in Mexico. >> No, because in Mexico it's like you're only limited to this amount and that's it. And you're never going to be a boss. Oh, for them to like for a boss to like leave his position, they won't they'll never do that. They'll never leave their position ever. Yo, they'll die there, dude. And if anything, they'll get they'll set up the position to where like if they're when they leave, the business is going to go to ████ It's being sold or whatever. And then they
11:46 the people are ████ Nobody's secure and everybody's looking out for themselves. There's no, you know, like >> there's there's there's no business that's like built to where it helps the workers as well. Yeah. >> That's why the country can't stabilize. >> If that's the mentality, >> that's the mentality. >> That's what I'm saying. It's like they're just they're getting the whole the country is getting crumbs and they're not going to give up their crumbs for another ████ family. It's just they're not. And then they're not going to change. So the people are like it's going to take years for this to change. I don't have years. So I'm going to go to United States and just get it done and just bring money back cuz they do come back. And that's the thing that that's people don't understand like it sucks being an immigrant because you leave a country to go back. And one of the reasons why they'd rather stay here
12:36 is because when they do make their money and then they go back, the whole town is envious of them. They don't treat them the same. They don't make fun of them. They ████ ████ you. You think you're better than us. It's like, bro, >> like I did this to come back and I'm not even welcome in the town that I'm back in. And then they get robbed. They get ████ um kidnapped. And now they got to ████ >> And now they're like, "Man, ████ this. I rather just go back to the United States." And so a lot of people that do make money, they they end up getting kidnapped and they're like, "F███ this. I'd rather just stay in in America." In America, they're like, "We don't want you here." So the whole lives, their whole life of existence is like, "I can't be comfortable anywhere." Just for their kids to grow up and become a DJ. Like that's ████ insane. It's ████ insane. So for them to just do nothing when they're like, "What are you doing? You're a ████ promoter at a club, dude. Get a ████ job. What the ████ are we doing, dude?"
13:27 It's like Jesus Christ to play ████ video games and be a streamer. Stop. Stop trying to be a streamer. Just ████ do something. >> So it's it's it's like what it sounds like is like the that's like the poor experience, right? Like what do middle class and upper class do over there. You know, >> the middle class is like >> maybe there is no middle class. >> The middle class is is our poor. You understand? Like you know what I'm saying? Like when I was growing up, we were very we were like extremely poor, but we were poor. >> You grew up over there? >> No. No. And and growing up in America, we grew up poor. Like I would grew up like in the hood and then we just kind of but we still had things, you know, I had nice clothes and this and that. So I would go to Mexico and my uncle was an engineer. He was more than a little middle class. He was a little bit more. He had a two-story house. Like he had, you know, he had a good little like money coming along, but we lived the same. >> You understand what I'm saying? Like his rich we were I was like their rich was
14:19 our poor. >> Yeah. >> And I realized like oh we're like we live the same. Like they have >> So that's why there's jealousy. We have >> So like that's why there's jealousy. Like you go back and you make more than them and they're like we're more educated. We're like why why do you have so like it's like that? >> Yes. I have an uncle who's like an engineer and he's just busting his ass off and he's living still like that. And I have an uncle who works like as a dishwasher and bought a bigger house. >> A bigger car. >> And he went to school and he went to ████ put busted his ass off and like is in the system and just working hard and just >> Yeah. >> And how do you think they're going to feel? It's like, "Dude, you were laying bricks. I went to I got my doctorate degree and s███." Yeah. >> He's like, "Oh, that's cool. I I can tell you what soap is better for the this dish. >> What towel dry is better." >> But that I mean that's kind of like the
15:10 point of >> He's a mechanic engineer for the dishwasher. >> He's taking that risk of immigration though, right? you know, like >> Oh, yeah. But they're taking >> That's That's like my mom, you know, she she is a refugee from the war, comes over here, ends up becoming a dry cleaners person. But every single time we went back to Vietnam, >> suddenly I saw her different because the way that she would like pump her chest, you know, like around her family just giving out cash. And I'm like, we're poor as ████ in America. Like what? You didn't give me nothing for my allowance and you're just giving all this away to like I I never even met this cousin, second cousin, third cousin, you know, it's ████ But it's like she's she's got to put on this show >> when we don't even have money like that back in the States. And it's like that's kind of part of >> Does the money get amplified though when she goes there? So maybe like >> it gets amplified, but it's but it's still ironic because like you know you
16:01 grow up thinking like no, we can't do that cuz you can't afford we can't afford that. >> Yeah. >> It's like >> Yeah. It's like you get treated like a certain way and it's like but over there it's like >> Mhm. >> what is going on? That's how that's how it felt like. And >> that's the opposite for me. When I go all I hear is stories of how balling they used to be and then they came to America and they ████ they they did it because they didn't want to live that life. And I'm like well what about me, bro? Like a confused guy. >> I'm like you what about me? Like my grandma would be like yeah uh every morning you know we had a driver, we had a whole staff. we had. I was like, "That's ████ nice, man. Like, that would have been cool if I had that and you guys decided to come to America and ruin your ████ lives. Like, you had it great in Japan." Like, what the Yeah, brought you here to become a hippie. That's ████ up, man. >> That thing is actually true. Like, a lot of Japanese people always make that joke that Japanese people don't move from
16:52 Japan to America, unless >> it depends. Okay, if it's after the 80s, if it's after the 80s, they didn't need to come here. They're all like they're all misfits that came because they're like they don't need the money. >> But if it's like >> let's talk about the five five generations in they're just like Mexicans like they're farmers. They're like we need opportunity. That's why before Mexican kings that that was their job. Like before you know it was like we're picking strawberries, we're ████ mining coal. >> The Gardino Japanese. >> Yeah. Yeah. They were the they were like they we don't have jobs. We're starving. Right. >> Yeah. >> And then that's why they went to Brazil. ████ Peru, whatever. >> And the diaspora just like freaking got crazy. >> Yeah. In Japan after World War II made ████ hella changes and they like they built up and then they didn't need help. So it's like that's like what you're saying. If Mexico doesn't need help,
17:42 they don't need to come here, right? >> True. >> And then after that, it's like the only people that came in the 80s were, "Oh, well, we're gonna open up Toyota. We're gonna open up Nissan in America. We got to build Sony in America. Send your employees." And that's when they were balling. Like in the Forbes list, I think for 10 years straight during the 80s, the uh people on the top list of billionaires were Japanese >> before what's his name? Um Microsoft came into you see the list. It's like Yeah. But I'll be in the immigrants that were coming, they were coming because Toyota sent them here and said, "Hey, uh, let's say you're a middle management, you're making 60K." Then you go, you go to America. I'm just going to pay you double and give you an allowance for
18:32 your So all the Japanese workers in the 80s were like already coming here with six figures plus and free, free housing, free. If you want to send your kids to private school, send them there. >> Damn. Yeah. >> How different >> it was different. Yeah. >> Is the is the Mexican president ever does that president ever actually address like the whole disparity you're talking about with like why people are leaving to come here? >> Yeah. I saw this one speech as he literally said like there's no need for them to leave and are people who have left and are seeking a better opportunity for their families. Like Mexico is always going to be here open arms ready to accept you. Like you can always come home. And I'm just like see what like you know to me that's what I was upset about. I'm like, "Yo, why are you ████ making it like it's cool?" Like, I would be like, "Yo, we're going to change things so you guys can come back." Say something like that. >> Making incentive. >> Yeah. They'll be like, "Well, whenever
19:22 you come back, this is your home." It's like, "Yeah, we don't like the home. What the ████ are you talking about? We don't like the way you're running the ████ house. The rules." You know, it's like your dad saying under under this ████ roof, my rules. Okay. Well, I'm leaving your ████ rules. That's what they're doing. They don't like your rules. >> Come back. We'll have you. >> But this is all your house. Just know this is always your house. I don't why, >> but it's my rules. >> Yeah, but in my rules. Okay.
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