0:00 So this question, I feel like is very, very simple, but um it could have some very complicated answers. I think a lot of people would wonder too, especially if they're struggling with uh how they see themselves. But for each of you, do you really even care if people like you or not? >> Right now? >> No. >> You really don't? >> No. I think like at least for me, I think the older I get, the amount of I give is less and less and less and less and less. So now it's not I and I'm also going to state it with with the context of social responsibility. Cuz I'm also not ████ So for example, like I'm not going to like I'm not because I have a kid and I have a wife, I'm not going to walk into my front yard butt naked and go it's cuz I don't give a >> anymore.
0:50 >> [laughter] >> I never >> Well, he'll go out in his underwear. >> He jerked off on a tree. >> But that's in the backyard. >> That's in the backyard. >> Yeah, that's the backyard. But I would never I would never like do that cuz then I don't want my wife to look stupid or people to go all the time cuz I'm a crazy ████ dad. So I know how to behave within the context of things, but within the context of things, I give so much less ████ than before. >> So even if like let's say different settings like when you're at Hybrid Jiu-Jitsu and all these cool Jiu-Jitsu guys come around, you don't it doesn't cross your mind at all like oh I hope these guys like me. >> Um it's more like if they like me, cool. If not, cool. >> Oh, really? >> Cuz now it's like I already have my tribe, right? That which is my family. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> And then so no one's opinions are really more important than that. And then so for me it's like I think the older I got where it was oh I hope like like attracts like, you know,
1:41 and you're kind of like like a little magnet or marbles navigating towards life. I think the amount of life I've lived has taught me people either are going to match or don't match. >> Okay. >> And then that's kind of just how it is. So I just hope I go through life where I meet more people that match. And awesome. And if not, cool, too. >> Is there any concern when you're meeting a bunch of other dads of like Tyga's school where you think, "I hope these guys like me?" Does that >> No, cuz it's Oh, I have tattoos. They're going to think I'm what this way? >> No, cuz it's Right away, I think everyone is gay until proven innocent. >> [laughter] >> So, I >> Gay until like all these ████ are going to try to kiss me until proven innocent? >> Yeah, so usually I'm like, man, most people are like either weird or lame or whatever. And then if I start meeting them and then they change my mind, I'm like, "Oh, this guy's pretty cool."
2:31 >> Wait, everybody's gay until proven innocent? >> Not gay, lame. >> Lame, lame. Oh, yeah, right, right, yeah. >> Like have you done Have you done a play dates with your kid yet? >> Yeah. >> Most of the parents are like like kind of empty between the ears, right? >> Uh-huh. >> A lot of them are like >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. At least for me, a lot a lot of them are very like you're I'm like, "Oh, you're like water cooler talk people." >> Oh. >> Yeah, right, right. >> There's not like substance or there's not something like interesting about them or there's or [clears throat] they live for something. They just feel like a empty vessel. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Jason, do you ever think about that? Do you care if people like you or not? >> I was thinking about that, probably. I don't know. >> [laughter] >> Very vague. >> Did you think about that the more you were coming around here like to JK back in the day? Like did you ever feel like, man, I hope these guys like me? Or did you just >> Of course. What the ████ are you talking about? Yes. >> You did? >> Yeah, I wanted people to
3:22 Yeah. I don't I think I still want people to like me, but I just um >> But in the room, right? You don't care as much about the crowd or or am I speaking >> I don't know. I I think it is really complex cuz I I really do want people to like me, but I don't know how much I care about it. Like at the time I care, but I don't know if like I would lose sleep over it. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Life is so much easier though when everyone likes you. >> It's Yeah, it's so nice. >> But how much are you willing to change? How much of yourself are you willing to change to make that happen? >> like you're saying it from like a throne above everybody. >> [laughter] >> Like, man, you guys >> I'm very popular. >> up here. >> Look at you saying like this. >> Like Tyga. >> Yep. >> I'm loved. >> [laughter] >> You never I You know what? If I were to assume, I feel like that never even crosses your mind. >> Yeah, I mean, it depends.
4:12 >> To be honest, like to be honest, since I first met you, I was like, this guy doesn't give a ████ >> To be honest, I think it depends on the subject matter. >> Like what? >> Well, like I think if people misunderstand you, you don't like that. >> That's everybody. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> But that's what I'm saying. >> Isn't What human being >> [laughter] >> wants to be taken out of context? >> but but there are people who genuinely don't care. >> I don't I'm that. >> Is he Exactly. >> I actually don't care. Well, it depends if it's a friend misunderstanding me. That I don't give a ████ what strangers think. And also, if there's a consequence for being misunderstood, cuz now you're going to jail. So, like I think that's where I'll fight to prove a point to a friend that I genuinely want to understand. >> Yeah, YOU KNOW WHAT I >> YEAH, if you're misunderstood, you're like, I don't give a ████ >> Yeah, but you're not going to jail. What are you >> No, no, but there there's consequence There's You don't It doesn't have to be
5:03 a crime, but I'm saying like, you better fight for being right or understood or like clear your story if even dynamics amongst friends, where you get You get like You're like, whatever. But like, ████ those people that are like, "Well, you got to ████ accept me for who I am. If you don't understand, then ████ you." Like I don't like those type of Yeah, but I think that's Everyone wants to that. You know what I mean? Doesn't Doesn't everyone? Like Right? Unless you don't care >> That's what I feel. No, cuz I have been so misunderstood by friends before that I think I'm hyper-sensitive to that, personally. And so like And because I troll so much, I'm like, "Oh, hey, my bad. I didn't let you know that I'm ████ trolling hard, you know?" >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? And then also to be vulnerable for me too, it's like I don't really care about again like Joe said, like other people who I don't know
5:53 think. But if I'm in a room, especially with people that I think are funny, >> Yeah. >> I want them to like me. >> Okay, cool. I think I'm more on the same page as you cuz I I I grew up with the thing of like it's cool to not care if people like you or not and I wanted to adopt that and I kept trying to be that, but I think innately I actually really care if people like me or not because I like a lot of people. It's because I find things I like about people even if they're strangers. I'm like, I really like this guy. So once I like them, I'm like, I would feel sad if they didn't like me. I'd be like, oh, that sucks. >> I wish I was more like you. >> Really? >> I think I'm I already start off not liking people. >> [laughter] >> I wish I liked more people. >> a default setting? >> Honestly, I think it is. >> Ah, yeah. >> Really? You don't think you like people? >> Like in general? >> Is it because you're you're kind of [laughter] Is it cuz of your introvertedness or are you talking about something else? >> I think it's I think it stems I think it
6:44 stems from my introvertedness. So if we if we talk about social batteries like what other people talk about, for me I'm like, if I'm already a social battery, I don't want to and I have a very finite amount, I have to pick and choose who I invest it with. >> Sure. >> So I'm like and I've been in enough situations where I like I wasn't um I guess the I don't know, careful enough or whatever and I invested so much and half of my battery charge is gone and I'm like, ah, that was ████ whack. And then now I meet someone super cool and I can't connect with them until like next week or something. So now I'm just like, oh, everyone's whack, everyone's whack until I'm like, oh, wow, this one's really really cool. Okay, then I'll invest. >> if somebody's whack and they're misunderstanding you, you just don't couldn't give a ████ right? >> Yeah. >> That's See, that's crazy to me. That's crazy. >> I I everyone I think it's a grass is greener. Like that would be easier for me if I felt more like you.
7:35 That'd be way easier for >> But you like friends though, so you can't be like me. >> I do, but like it's like it's real estate that it I can't control. >> Oh. Some guy doesn't like me and I really like them or if I like thought I made a friend and I didn't, I I can't stop thinking about it. I'm like, "God damn >> If they don't like you, then you're like, "Oh, ████ He doesn't like me?" >> Yeah, I feel bad about it. Yeah, I feel bad. >> I feel sad about it. >> Like like when you go someone doesn't like you, how do you feel? >> But it [snorts] depends like where we are in the relationship. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Like give me an example. Like who We don't know if we just met and I'm like, "Oh, he's cool." And I like him and he's like, "Yeah, ████ Jason." No. I'm like, "Okay, yeah. Then ████ Jason." >> [laughter] >> It was all Bill Pepper here but but before you guys got to know each other real well. >> Um >> Like your first 2 months of knowing him. >> Yeah. >> Oh, and then he doesn't like me? >> Yeah, he's like, "F███ that Jason
8:25 Chenier." >> Then I'm kind of sad. >> Yeah. >> It's like, "Why? What did I do?" >> Jason didn't like me actually. Huh? Jason didn't like me at first. >> Really? >> No, no. >> Wait, I didn't? >> Yeah. No, I did not like you. >> I ████ this trench coat guy. >> [laughter] >> Trench coat guy. >> I never said that. >> ████ this trench coat guy. >> I hands always in his pocket. >> Will, do you care? Do you care about if people like you or not? >> Uh yeah, I want everyone to like me. But I think it's just because like a trauma thing from childhood thing. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> get older, I get better at like, "Yeah, it's fine. I'm doing my thing." >> Isn't it true though like life is so much ████ easier when you are liked? >> It is. >> Oh, yeah. It is. Yeah. >> I think it's more like I'm not obsessed at trying to be popular cuz that's an insecurity thing. >> Yeah. It's not about being popular. Yeah. >> If you're naturally loved by people, right? Your life is so you just get
9:15 hooked. >> Like your own environment. >> People like being around you. It's like people want to like you could be the personality hire. Like you might not be the best, but they're like I pick I pick a personality hire over a really smart ████ that's horrible to be around. So I'm like I just think in general like it it doesn't take too much work to be liked. Like like for example, I would even I even wished I liked the things that people liked. >> Mhm. >> Oh. >> Because I think that's the ultimate like. >> What do you mean? >> So, I wish I like like I wish I ████ loved N Sync and Backstreet Boys because that's You know when you're a pop of every category, then you're the then you're the ultimate like. Not only do people like you, but you also like other So, even with my my niche things, right? Like in fitness, out of all the fitness genres, I chose the one that people like the least, which is powerlifting. So, I make the least amount of money. >> Yeah.
10:05 >> You know what I mean? So, what I mean is like if you're across the board, if like why do I like With Love, Always? Like that's a niche thing, right? >> It's popular, though. >> Versus if I loved just McDonald's, which is a s█████ burger, but everyone loves it. >> Likes it, yeah. Okay, I see what you're saying. Bart. >> So, it's hard for me to like even with with like comedians, like I wish I was a die-hard Kevin Hart fan cuz then I would open for him and have millions, but then for me it's like my authentic self already isn't what everyone likes. >> A niche kind of have have more in common with others. >> Yeah, then I cuz I think that's the ultimate like. >> you don't need that. You can be likable without having a common ground or actually work for it. It's a personality trait. Like for example, right? You are You got a lot of followers and people like you for your personality, not for your skills. You're not the top at anything. >> No, no, no, but what I'm saying
10:55 >> That's like That's what I'm saying, though. Like you're not a You're not at the bottom. >> Yeah, but what I mean with I would be I would be exponentially uh higher Like so, for example, >> Popular. >> Yeah. Let's say your branding, right? Let's say your branding with Jun Bi in Hawaii was Wong Fu, >> Yeah. >> it would be like that. >> [laughter] >> Like like like because because >> That's a funny example, though. That's a funny example. But like with JK, >> I know what you're saying. >> but with JK, we're so underground edgy racy comedy, but we're liked, though. We are liked, but we're not ████ like >> begging >> worshipped. >> begging for it. >> Do Do know what I mean? It's like we're like It's like there's a difference >> I see what you mean, yeah. >> You get what I'm you to I'm saying? It's like if if every facet of your life inside, outside, thoughts, spiritual, whatever it was the mainstream, Taylor Swift, you can tap into so many things
11:47 uh because you are the the temperature of the world. >> And and the less your opinions are public, the more people like you because >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Oh, that's what they like? I don't like it. >> We messed up there a little bit. >> [laughter] >> Well, we chose That's what we chose cuz that's the preference, right? >> authentic to ourselves or whatever. >> Yeah, you made that you made that choice. >> like, man, why couldn't I just like lukewarm stuff? >> I know. Realer opinions. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> But you're a very big difference from like that DramaAlert guy. >> Like a lot of people just There's like unlikable characters, right? So, I guess I'm trying to paint a picture of like naturally Bart is liked. Fans like him, right? Like Like yeah, he might have controversial takes, but in general, people like him, right? So, that's very different from someone who's like, I hate watch this guy.
12:37 >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Like Simon from ████ American Idol or or whatever. >> Okay, right. >> Yeah, so if you have a naturally unlikable personality, life is ████ hard for those people. But if you have a naturally likable personality, your life is so much not easier, but you know, it you get way more ████ >> I think when you're not likable as a power, you'd have to monetize that like the Paul brothers. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Like if you're not doing that, then people just don't like you. >> And they just attack that thing. >> Yeah, right. They're anti-heroes now, yeah. I I get what you're saying. >> They did the same thing. They did the same thing. >> Yeah, same deal. >> Kardashian technique, right? So, they're gaining attention, they're popular, but they're not liked. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Some people would like them, though, no? >> Yeah, I think some people do. >> They're very polarizing, yeah, for sure. >> But like for like right now, Tom Brady and Logan Paul have a thing where they flip each other off in public, and everyone, even boomers think it's gay.
13:29 Cuz everyone's like, "Why is Tom Brady doing this to himself? Like you did great in life. Just don't do this with these people." >> Don't associate. >> Right. >> Okay. >> It's weird. >> But going back to the original, do you care about how people like like you? >> I think in general that most people in this room don't give a ████ >> No, zero. But I care >> in the way that normal people do. >> what you guys think. Of course. >> You got to be ████ not to care of what your friends and family think about you. >> I know, yeah. But I think like I I probably care the most out of everyone here. >> Of >> beyond this. I think I do. >> Random comment right now. >> For the longest time I've always been like, "No, I don't. No, I don't." And then I think like only in the last 5 years I've come to terms with like, "Oh, no, I I care." >> The way you do it. Go ahead. >> But what I was going to say about like you see or we all saw the ROI of that at your wedding, though.
14:20 >> Yeah, sure. >> Like you had the deepest catalog of friends from every phase of your life and how much how how much everyone is down for >> He didn't he didn't want to come, by the way. >> What? >> ████ up, Jason. >> No, no, he didn't >> You know what I heard he said? He said he didn't want to go to Skid Row. I'm like, "That's lame." >> What? >> That's where his wedding was. It was really weird. >> But you but like everyone's so down for you, you know what I mean? >> Yeah, we went to Skid Row. >> Like I I wouldn't have that. >> He said he was going to go to comedy mothership. >> I never said that. >> [laughter] >> He had to work, no. But yeah, you know, I I I agree. I like the fact that like because of I think because I like a lot of people, I can find common ground with people that most people wouldn't like. Because I just try to find like, "Oh, what's likable between me and this person?" Even though >> to find it or >> Sometimes I do. Yeah, sometimes people are like, "Why are you hanging out with that ████ guy?" And I'm like, "No, I like this specific thing."
15:10 >> Right. >> You know what I mean? So I think that that kind of enriches my I guess like friendship amount. But it but for me I just I feel disappointed every time even a total stranger, if I liked that person. Like if they have a nice first impression and they don't like me. I don't not like man. Do you not like somebody? Like is it often? How often do you not like them? I don't like maybe six, seven people in my life. Damn, that's a lot. It has to be really bad. I know two of them. I don't like lots of There's always something in somebody to me, you know? There's always something. Who are these six, seven people? >> [laughter] >> He's like I'mma put I'mma put on my list, too. I'mma put on my list. Yeah, damn. Nick Dunn is one of them. >> [laughter] >> Nick Dunn's actually all of them.
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