0:00 So, we were talking about our biggest heartbreaks that rewired our brains. And mine happened to me, like most people, it was in high school. It was like one of the first girls. Um I don't know. I wasn't really into like trying to date anybody. I don't know. I just was just kind of just hanging out with people, you know. >> That's sus. You didn't want to stick your penis into things? >> Um Yeah, I I don't know. I think I had low T when I was a teenager, honestly. >> Low T? You got low >> Way higher T now than I did when I was a teenager. >> everything now? >> Yeah, kind of. No, I'm just kidding. Um No, but like back then I Yeah, I was like trying to get I was like interested in talking to girls, but I just didn't really like anybody. I just was like, "Eh, it was cool. I'm just like hanging out." And there's one girl in my class started uh like she was a new girl.
0:50 She's a friend of a friend. We started hanging out. Then all of a sudden my the friend of a friend tells me like, "Oh, this girl likes you." And I was like, "What?" And at the time I was like, "Oh, I think she's kind of cute." And that was like one of the first times where someone said they liked me and I was like, "Oh, I think they're kind of cute. Let's see what happens, you know." So, then we started talking and you know, it happened so quick. And so, this is so casual. She was She just liked me. But I took it way too far. Like I was like, "I'm going to marry this girl. This is the ████ love of my life." You know, just like love bombing. >> How How many days did it take? >> Oh, bro. It was like >> 48 hours? >> Like you know what's funny? Like I played it really cool. >> For 12 minutes? >> No, I played it cool for a while. >> Yeah. >> And then once we started like, "All right, we're like dating or whatever." Then that's when I was like, "Free rein, baby." >> Floodgates.
1:40 >> Flood the gates. And it wasn't even We weren't even officially boyfriend or girlfriend or anything. I never asked her to be my girlfriend. We were just like hanging out. And like we went to on a couple dates already. So, it wasn't even anything crazy at all. >> What was like the one of the dates? >> Went to a movie. And that was it. >> hands yet? >> Yeah, we held hands. I was super timid like cuz I never really like did all that and she was the one. She had given me Yeah, she had given me a kiss and I was like, "Whoa, this is crazy." And she would like she kind of initiated everything like cuz I wasn't Yeah, I wasn't ready for anything. >> So you Was this your first >> Yeah, she like held my hand and I was >> You never held a girl's hand before that? >> No, not like that. Not like >> Where did she kiss you here or here? >> Like she kissed me on the mouth and I was like, "Whoa, what the hell?" >> You said that? >> Yeah, I was like, "What the ████ dude?" >> [laughter] >> I shoved her. I was like, "Yo, what the ████ My mom's going to be so mad when she finds out."
2:31 >> [laughter] >> When she finds out? Dude, when I tell you When I tell on you? Hey, the whole time she was the predator? >> Kind of, yeah. She was She was preying on me, dude. Um and then she just turned me out, dude. And she turned me out. She broke my ████ heart. No, cuz I I just thought like, "All right, this is going to be like my girlfriend now." >> Now you just love bomb. Like >> That's what I thought in my head. I was like, "This is just kind of what you do." >> How did you love bomb? >> things in movies. You just immediately tell me you love them. Which is sick move. >> [laughter] >> And >> You know, sometimes they'll they'll like indulge like they'll kind of say it back to you and stuff, right? And it's cool. It's like, "Oh, cool." >> It's out of respect. >> Yeah, maybe. >> [laughter] >> Maybe. >> So it was like, "I was just trying to kiss you, dog. What the ████ love?" She's like a player, dude. >> And you know, I think she was. I think she kind of was a little player. Uh she was definitely more experienced than I
3:21 was. >> She's like, "Man, I just like you here." >> "I like this little guppy, dude. I want to ████ [laughter] him." And then uh yeah, and then I started just I just kept being annoying. I would like talk to her all the time and just be like, "Oh, like just just being gross." Everything you could find out of a movie. >> write letters? Try to play hangman with her but spell I love you. >> Yeah, just being clean. Hey, what's up? What are you doing? What are you doing? You know, like that kind of ████ And eventually she kind of like pumped the brakes on me. Like just kind of stopped talking to me and I was like, "Oh, what the f███?" Like and then she eventually told me like, "I don't think we should like talk to each other anymore. And I was like, "Okay." And then I hit her with the "But I I'm still in love with you." That's what I said. I hit her with that. >> Don't inhale like that, dude. That makes me feel bad. >> [laughter] >> But no, it's moments like that where you just >> been there. >> 100%. But like, you know, sometimes I'll be driving and you'll just think about that. You're like, "Oh, [groaning] I can't believe I did that." You know,
4:12 it's like, "Oof." >> You You had a car? >> No, no. Like now, I still think about >> Oh, you still think about it till this day? Me too. Me too. >> But like, you just think of those vulnerable moments where you're just like, "Oh, bro. I had no ████ idea. I I I >> your heart out there. >> Yeah, you had no idea what was going to come back, right? So, she hits you with that and then you you feel You know, you tell yourself like, "It's fine. It's cool. You're fine." And then it's not until like like a couple hours later after it kind of settles in. You're like, "Ah." You start crying, right? I did the whole shower thing. You're You're showering for like 3 hours. >> [laughter] >> You're just showering. Hot water turns off. >> Your mom's like, "Hurry up. You had the >> hot water JUST STOP JERKING OFF." >> YOU DO that you and I We talked about this on the show before, but you your back's on the wall on the shower and you just slide down and you just like this. >> [laughter]
5:02 >> You hit one of those, you know. >> Like the pain away. >> Yeah, yeah. You got You do the all the cliche things as a teenager. Or you like you go out to dinner with your family and they're like And usually I'm a big eater, right? And then like they see me not eating and I'm like, "I'm not hungry. I don't want to eat. I can't eat." >> [laughter] >> It just like it hurts so bad. And they're like, "What the ████ is wrong with you?" You know. >> Nick hasn't touched his spaghetti at all. >> [laughter] >> He hasn't He hasn't ate his gado-gado yet. >> Did they know you went through a heartbreak? >> I don't know. But I knew they They probably knew something was up. >> I feel like as kids you think you don't know >> Yeah, they ████ know. >> As parents they're watching you. You're like doing donuts on the floor like, "Uh-huh." And they're just like, "He He thinks he's He's in heartbreak." >> And then the phases that like they kind of like you kind of don't know but as an adult you you could look back and be like oh ████ I was kind of going through it where you get really sad you're
5:53 crying all the time and then you go into this weird phase where you just hate women for a little bit. Oh you you got red pilled? >> [laughter] >> Like no like I think this happens to men like especially young men they're not experienced with this they just go once they heal from the pain or whatever. >> Just generalize now. >> They generalize women are ████ I hate them they're loose blah blah and I found out this chick started talking to some other dude via MySpace cuz she posted I remember it was like a it was a picture of her and another guy and I was like so I felt like oh she she's she turned she left me for another guy. So it was like it doubled down even more so I was like you know these ████ I hate this lady you know so I didn't really like her and she had a locker right next to me and I'd always like she'd always say hi to me and I'd be like and I'd just be really mean to her.
6:43 I was really mean to her. And I would call her like a ████ I was I was >> Oh ████ [laughter] >> I was like it was bad. >> Shut up ████ >> I was like no kind of bro it was kind of like that cuz I was so angry at her I was and I would like I would kind of pretend like I was joking but I kind of wasn't and then but she would start laughing and she kind of liked it. She was like that's the Nick I like. She kind of liked when I was being mean to her. And I remember being like this is ████ up like this is weird. I didn't know what to think you know. So much so where she started talking to me again and at during this time where I stopped talking to this girl I was like kind of talking with Tiff a little bit like this is like I was like kind of we're hanging out a little bit and but nothing serious cuz I think she was actually kind of dating somebody else. Um
7:33 fast forward to I this girl asked me to come over her house and like hang out with her and she like tried to hook up with me or something in like the laundry room. >> Hell yeah. >> And then I felt like this is this is not appropriate. >> You got to do it in the kitchen. >> No, I felt really bad about it. I felt like really guilty about it. Cuz I was like, I don't like her. Like that's what I felt. I was like, I I I I thought I did and then I kissed her again and I was like, I don't like her at all. And I just was like, >> You didn't want to like disrespect >> And I stopped and I and I didn't I didn't talk to her again after that. I kind of just stopped talking to her. >> guy. >> No, I don't think it's me honorable, bro. I think it was just like what I felt in the moment >> moment and I just was like, mhm. >> Yeah, I think you were genuinely curious to like see because you had felt something so strongly previously and then when you got there and it wasn't the same you were like >> I thought that's what I wanted, you know, and I I went through the ebbs and
8:24 flows and I just kind of >> I wish I had that. >> couldn't look at her the same after that. >> Dude, I did the exact same thing with the chick. But anyways, continue. >> But did you grab her titties a little bit first? >> No, no, no, she didn't offer it as as we didn't have a laundry room situation. We were just in like a sitting on a chair. I was sitting behind her watching a thing. Anyways, >> Did you get hard? >> No, no, no, because I didn't want it. I thought I wanted it. I thought I wanted it. >> But even when I don't want it I get hard. >> Yeah, but but when it's like em- emotional can change stuff. >> That's true. >> Yeah. >> And I think at that like you're I think that's peak emotions for for a young lad, you know? >> Yeah, it's everything. >> It's like and you don't know what to do. And I felt so like uh like all over the place emotionally at that time. Where I just was like, I don't think I should have a girlfriend at all. Like that's what I thought for a
9:14 while cuz I was like, I didn't like how mad I would get about or how like jealous I'd feel or >> And you started wrestling and checking out dudes. >> No, that was that was like much later. That actually helped me out a lot later. I'm trying to just put the >> timeline together. >> sexual angst out on the mats. Um but no, like when And then I kind of was like, all right, I'm just going to be alone for a while. I'm not going to just I'm going to try to figure out my own ████ a little bit. And then that's when I was like, all right, I'm going to start working out. I'm going to start like doing other things just like kind of occupy the brain a little bit and I think that helped me out a lot. Just gave me a different focus. Cuz otherwise you just you're just a horny boy. >> This whole time you you didn't Did you talk to your sisters or ask them >> ████ no. >> Cuz they're lesbian. >> No. >> One of them One of them is. >> No, it's not even that. I think I did No, I said I didn't because I kind of just didn't trust uh
10:04 >> I didn't trust >> I didn't trust that they would uh >> have your best interest. >> I just want to hide You know at that age you don't want to be vulnerable. You thought it was like it was a bad thing to kind of talk about how you feel, you know? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> So that was the other thing. I just didn't feel safe with that and I was like, I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out. >> Did you listen to slow jams and R&B and and it helped you cry? >> I'll listen to Jodeci. I'll listen to ████ all that stuff. I was like, just crying all the time. >> I think it was good that you got You got a chance to kind of get her back but then realized like it's not what I wanted. At such an early age. >> Uh cuz I was so amazed at that thought like as a kid where I was like I'm just going to be so mean to this chick cuz I was so mad at her. >> [laughter] >> And then when she kind of flipped on me, I remember that blew my brains. >> You know what I think it is? I think you turned her off by being a little ████ >> 100%. >> And when you were a man she was like, oh
10:54 he's finally a man. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But then by that time you're like, my heart belongs to Tiff now. >> And and I realized like that was the balance like with everything and I was like, oh, okay. I was I came in too hot. >> Yeah, you came >> I came in way too hot and then that's what taught me how to like, oh, okay. To recalibrate a little bit. >> You guys ever think about how like we weren't actually taught real love? So that's why we don't know like feeling infatuated and being desperate we we think that's love. So that's why when you have a high emotion and you're just like, oh my god, you make me feel so amazing. And you're like love dumping on a girl cuz you think that's what you're supposed to do. >> Yeah. >> I was like, dude, that's a ████ sad childhood that we didn't have balance. >> I mean, that's that's just called young
11:44 love, right? That's the whole point of being phrases that it's it's like it's so naive and so pure and so innocent that it's going to be shat on in like in half a fart. Like >> But that's movies, dude. I'm telling you. It's just movies. >> But that's what I'm saying though. Like how lucky is Tiff in a sense if she had no choice hypothetically that you went through that and then was able to get with her. Because like you had to discover like the overbearing simp coming in too hot to the piece of ████ call somebody a ████ but like that kind of working and realizing that like that's not who I want to be. >> Yeah. >> And then find a little bit of a median middle ground to work on something. >> Cuz it's funny cuz Tiff kind of went through her own experience like that on with her like first little like boyfriend that she was with. Little ████ dude. >> [laughter] >> Well, just holding holding ████ grudges. >> Yeah, what's his name? What's his name? >> ████ I'll beat your ass.
12:34 >> Oscar. >> You're both rebound lovers. >> Yeah, like we kind of we kind of realized cuz I think she calibrates quick quick quicker than I do cuz she's way smarter than I am. But like so she was like, nah, I don't want to deal with no ████ like that. Whatever she went through. So then I think that's when we kind of just found each other at the right time. That's what I always say it's like we got so ████ lucky. And like we we figured out the right time. >> So that's good for people to like do that in high school. >> to experience Yeah, get out the >> way, bro. >> As much as it's heartbreak or whatever, like you can still go home and you're not paying ████ rent or mortgage. You're not cooking food. Like you know, it's just a space for you to be like, oh, heartbreak, okay, cool. Just Just do it in your room. Just do it in your room, you know? Yeah, don't get into danger. Heartbreak, cool. It's better than the stupid stuff. >> Yeah, seriously. >> You know? And then it's like you feel that and then you become something else entirely. You go ████ for a little
13:24 bit. You realize somebody goes, you're a dick. You're an ████ Then you go like that was too far. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you bring yourself right back. >> Back. And then you and you probably if you're a normal human like I am, you ████ up again. >> Cuz I think boys need to understand like cuz they're not I don't think they're properly taught like boundaries. Or like that's how they learn. >> Yeah, that's how we've been learning since we've been infants. >> With anything. We always got to test the boundary at the I bet you see it with Taika, right? Like you see him always like trying to see like what's the rule? Can I go farther than that? Okay, what's the farthest I can go? And then it's even like >> Mama said no. Well, mama said no. And then it's like, "Okay, both of them said no. Do they say it twice or >> That's why I believe in ████ kids up, man. You ain't got no time for that ████ >> Yeah. >> It's probably yeah. >> ████ >> Let us know in the comments if you believe in ████ up kids. >> ████ yeah. >> Probably better than iPads. [laughter]
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