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Donnie Yen Got 'John Wick' Name Changed to Avoid Asian Stereotypes

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0:00 [Music] all right y'all so we got the man Jeremy here so we got to we got to talk about uh Donnie Yan's new spin-off movie from the John Wick IP uh named is it named Kane do we have a name I don't know this has already been revealed yeah they revealed it I haven't even watched the last one I did I did Donnie was blind right yeah yeah I watch that no that that was Rogue that was Rogue actually talking about Star Wars yeah turet his name is turret are you lying to me Donnie's daughter's in it or her he's blind yeah see try to trick me anyways so he's uh he's Kane in John Wick right

0:50 and so they're going to give him a spin-off but there was a moment and maybe you could tell us a little bit more about this if you're familiar did you work on that project too I was in the middle of talking but it's okay they haven't started it just got green okay oh it just got green L okay is it a prequel or or it's actually after it says apparently it's after John Wick four because uh spoiler alert if you haven't seen it don't listen right now but at the same time if you want to be spoiled listen basically what had happened was when he did what he had to do in John Wick 4 they released him from his duties and so this is supposed to pick up after he like goes back and I didn't finish the movie what the ████ okay all right I just spoiled it for bar yeah you can see at the end dude the the end credits it was in the end credits yeah post credits type stuff they just copy book a Eli but you do know you know it's blind from the start though the Star Wars

1:41 right no not Book of Eli you don't know well Book of Eli you don't know blinding both huh he's blind blind and both yeah he's blind both the best was he didn't want to be completely blind right and and Chad my boss is like he's a director and he's he's like he's blind and we're trying to choreograph all these moves and Donnie kept trying to Vin me he's like what if I'm like 50% blind 50% but it was like Donnie every week would have a different pitch to me so it's like dude you just got trying to talk to chat to pass it up yeah he was like maybe I can see light and shadows and that's how cuz I I already played blind I don't want to do it again and and he's like it's he was a little bit hesitant he's like I don't want to keep playing blind which I get but I ████ sick is at the at the end of the the the movie this

2:32 fool gets lasic and he can see and it's a good brand deal from a lasic company how would Costco laic in what way in what ways would the movie have changed if he could be 50% blind 50% I think it was you got to explain that to the audience tooe right is it 50% like this or like this the doctor's checking his eyes he's 50% blind he can see so he's not blind yeah right no well that was the thing it was like it starts with a DMV test and ████ like how do you explain the opening and you have to set that up so he it's just only 50% yeah yeah that's I think that's why Chad kept tell good thing good thing he kept it like really easy to understand that's to be where someone hands you a drink on one side you miss it and then when they hand it to the other no he's renewing his ████ ID at

3:24 the DMV and he's looking at this and he's missing it what what what's the letters d b w r y yeah that's a really exciting scene to shoot so apparently though uh there was also a a a a bit of news that came out that when he was first cast to play this role of Kane it was a much more generic role that was very like Asian stereotyped so Donnie apparently like challenged some of those things because his name was supposed to be like Shang or Chang and he was like what was he a waiter at a like regular stuff you know what I mean like why does it have to be thatp typical stuff and also wardrobe he was apparently supposed to wear like mandarin collar suit type look like a waiter at a Chinese restaurant so he was like you know like

4:16 it would be it would be dope if he was just like name or if he was just wearing normal swag which is why the cane that we see in the movie is name cane and he just wears a suit but he looks hella cool and stuff I guarantee you they like he first said how about a Shane you know more normal they're like you got to be at least a little Asian okay how about a Kane you know is it Asian guy you guys know that's named Kane hell no yeah oh there's a yeah we do know Kane oh cool it's valid no I think I think the character was Al always supposed to be blind um like a full blind yeah before before Donnie signed Dawn oh okay it and then he Donnie just brought a whole bunch of different layers to the character which was really cool dope dude suit is like it's supposed to be like um uh KO slash slash um and his mannerisms are

5:08 supposed to be like CH and fat like in Old like John wo movies and then there's a bunch of random little things like like everybody knows the uh Killa suit the maroon suit you guys know what that is right no it's it's um what's his name Sam hung suit in in um SPL wow so there's always there's like little Easter eggs mini nuggets yeah wow like playing paying homage kind of ████ yeah you know what it be so sick though is like if he was like I want to break a stereotype why do I have to be so Chinese right and he goes how about I get a dreadlock and I how about like how about yeah like a reg Chinese man you know and then it's like Crips Tattoo yeah how about like a

5:58 little bit more swaggy like a I want to look like a takishi 69ine you know they did they did that a little in in jet Le the one do you see that when they're looking at all of his alternate selves one of them for a second is a dreadlock J dude that's crazy the funny so I worked with Donnie on trip XX 3 Vin Diesel and they were he was he wanted to be so different there he's like I don't want to be T typical Chinese and the director on that one wanted him to do like man stuff and he was like no I want to do something different but then on this one he was like no I'm I'm asan I'm being I'm Chinese but the name he didn't want stereotypical Chinese or like I think the the being named like Shang or Chang and wearing a mandarin color was like two on the butt it's not about representing Chinese it's also about representing the idea that Chinese isn't

6:48 one thing all the time that's smart that's smart that's true it wouldn't have stood out as much apparently also with Rogue one when he played chur um he even said too he's like uh one thing he pointed out was a stere type of what Rogue one's chur was supposed to be which was also a very regular martial arts serious Master Warrior so he's like hey like one thing I pointed out is he was a stereotype a typical Master he doesn't smile so how about he makes him blind he I think CH wasn't supposed to be blind he made him blind and then he made him smile and say like random jokes and stuff like that and was like laughing all the time so I think Donnie's constantly trying to yeah I didn't know he was so concerned with that it's I don't even know if it's so like like must challenge The Stereotype but he's also trying to just be fresh let's just have original characters yeah he's trying to be American is there do you know who the

7:39 other considerations were for that character in John Wick 4 or could you no it was always going to be Don oh okay oh God it how was how was uh I don't know if you got like super direct contact how was it working with Vin Diesel uh different yeah different different different that's a good word Tri X dude he was always cool to me he's always cool with the stunk guys so there's nothing bad for me to say about him in that oh man like he's always looking out for us um but makeup though he hated them no no he was just shaved his head always talk ████ to them yeah no he has like a he has a A vibe which is weird it like I don't know how to explain it you don't know if he likes you or not but he's always he's always nice he's never

8:30 rude but I don't know I never had a connection super professional like in that way or is it like I mean he's really professional when it comes to the the job for sure um but I mean I know him in a lot of he always has beef with other actors oh really so I don't like with other leads like that oh he had a whole beef with like the rock type Stu The Rock and St that's a whole spin-off yeah so well that's nice cuz you usually hear Act actors power tripping over the staff but I rather have them fight over each other fight fight amongst each other yeah you know I want to know if there's ever any like that guy is like so so mean to like this like the Gaff or like some obscure group like the ████ catering like you know the rock he's always mean to catering and ████ he's so

9:21 ████ up on every show it doesn't matter who Ellen was like that huh Ellen yeah I heard I heard stories a lot of stories about Ellen De Jen's being like that to catering no to everybody everyone well that's why she got cancelled right it's cuz everyone was like that ████ ████ didn't that happen to James Cordon or whatever like he started getting canceled cuz some restaurant owner oh yeah he seems like such a happy Jolly he got mad at like the rest I like watching his show but he got canell I'm sure I'm sure people who are like they have to be nice and maintain it for their image it's probably feels good to be pissed off off like is there in the game that you're like I don't give a ████ if I work for this person anymore so you're willing to be like this person is not that not an actor I haven't I haven't

10:11 met an actor like that I mean I the other thing about being a stunk eyye the perk is that like actors want to be cool with stunk guys cool crew members yeah but I heard like Steven A would be ████ up stunk guys it's a go though he didn't respect stunk guys I didn't work with him oh like he broke uh my boss's like shoulder or something in his hip and I he just ████ him up a th% punches you in the face he met he met one of my mentors and like he was like oh you're the Tako guy and he's like yeah and he kicked him in the nuts what the ████ yeah that's what I heard he's a big ass ████ too holy ████ big I heard he just ████ people up oh you're the Ty guy well B yeah yeah what the like so I I was thinking we do

11:02 something Wham and he just kicks him in the nuts he goes you didn't see that coming you're not real ta one you think he's trying to see is reaction time probably I don't know ████ the thing is he knew my mentor like he thought about that and he actually was wearing a cup wow so and he wasn't wearing anything else is it cuz he knew he was going to do something no clothes clotho just like he he no pads sorry is it because Stephen already had a a he's a cal nut kicker that's great that's kind of that's kind of tight if you're like notorious for that though it's not that tight though for you like like if I'm the caterer you don't have to say names but are there any stunt guys that you will not hire yes wow cool there's a lot

11:53 there's damn really that you're just you don't even care how good they got you're just not working with h probably not that well oh it's cuz they were not good at their job yeah usually for me it's a personality thing and a work at the thing right cuz I have also some some of my closest friends that are the best at what they do but I know they can't show up to work on time or like something like that and and you know I don't want to B feel that I ████ feel because when we do when we do uh movies overseas right like a lot of times now you know Productions are getting cheaper and cheaper so they'll tell me like you get four slots so okay so for the next 6 months I got to hang out with these four people and then you don't know anybody in town yet for the first two months be a babysitter for four months or whatever yeah cuz then they become your friends

12:43 like they become your homies and a lot of times it works out really well but there's always maybe one person that doesn't work out too well dude the longer you play in the game reliability goes so much farther than even just Talent well because everybody knows too just like we were saying your your your dance and your stunts have a expiration date so no amount of talent you know like for us it like what made us different was tricking but people are like I don't care how good you are at tricking if you're a ████ person because we're just doing the ████ with wires anyway yeah we just hire somebody and do it with wires take the extra time to put wires up and have a better environment than hire some ████ tricker right right right right so it it's never like it's never about the skill all the time yeah mhm that's the skill is what gives

13:34 you the job and then you have to keep the job right cool amen that's the guy that's the guy

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