0:00 not saying drug use is cool but if you're going to do OIC then why not [Music] ecstasy just wanted to talk about what's up with OIC man it's pretty popular what is OIC yeah Nick what's it's like the the newest weight loss drug that a lot of people are taking like di it's like I think it's mostly for diet like uh people with diabetes is it like hydroxy cut no it's a it's a shot that people take and it's prescribed it's prescribed by a doctor so it's not over the counter yeah and it just helps you um lose weight Yeah by by by filling up your stomach by by keeping you satiated oh so it's not burning it's just making you go I'm hungry today supression yeah exactly so you're just not as hungry was Skin Care at first oh Z like oh cool you probably put on your skin n but
0:52 it's uh it's very popular a lot of people are using it and also a lot of people are getting good results from it do you know people on it yeah I have a couple clients that are on those zic but also you up right what are some of the side effect well some of the side effects depending on the dosage and there's like an adjustment period some people report feeling like really nauseous like the smell of food makes them want to vomit want to vomit but that's like pretty intense cases that's like double it down so you don't like food and you throw up you lose weight fast oh yeah so you're not eating as much um but I know some people depending on the doses that they take it's just like yeah I just don't think about food as much and that's really helpful when I'm trying to lose weight so there is a lot of benefits from it and I think for the mass population it's like uh or people that who are like really obese or really struggle with appetite suppression it could be a useful tool
1:42 just to get them maybe that jump start progress that people need just to see that like okay I'm Los weight yeah right I'm hungry all the time cuz either way you still have to still you still have to diet and you still have to uh exercise anyway but for some people it helps them you know keep them on that on that path so I guess it can be helpful but I don't know I don't know what to think about it because there's other there's just random people that are just maybe not obese you know maybe like slightly overweight or like normal that's not the type of person that should be taking OIC uh I don't know if they should or shouldn't but like a super model what are the long-term harms we don't we I don't really know I think U when I was reading about it it said there's a there's a higher rate of kidney failure like your kidneys can be affected if you're not monitored properly while you're taking it or something but if you obese already
2:32 you're already going to get kidney failur kind of a good point when that ████ goes you look like a balloon but the when they're making like when they're making these types of medicines they're like yeah which one's worse you're right you might as well die hot yeah which one which one's going to kill look good though yo I've never seen a full episode but these clips keep coming up where it's like this like little old doctor just talking ████ to the fat ass people and it's the funniest thing like who's that this there'll be like a fat like super obese person and then they'll just be like Oh I'm hungry I need to eat and he goes no you don't you probably ate for like the next 5 years to be full you're okay and then he'll just roast them but they'll just be little Clips you guys never seen that
3:22 ████ no yeah they'll just like a little the roast doctor Al no he's just like a doctor and then there's like yeah damn yeah there'll be moments of like oh like that doct should be promoting OIC yeah they'll be like I'm a picky eater and he's all like you don't look like you you you you you're that picky a damn so one of my clients she's like she's down like 30 lbs since she started uh like training with me and then also with like I think she started like OIC like a couple mostly because of you no it's probably it's a combination of both for sure it's mostly her also make your muscle muscles atrophy that's what I say if you don't strength train but like the simple fix is like is as long as you strength train that's why she's worth training with me that's normal life if you don't you don't exercise your exactly so like for for certain clients
4:13 that I have I do worry about like what happens when they don't have it because it is so powerful where you just don't really have to worry about food so when you go back to regular life yeah like and you're you're a little you might make worse decisions on the food you're eating just h the element that you talk about sustainability right yeah you have to be on it forever but at the same time like C like this client that I'm thinking of right now she's done such a good job of keeping her habits up so it's like okay cool like so it is working together right like the OIC her with her habit she's on top of it so like that's maybe a good case but I'm sure there's some people that I don't say abuse it but just may not take the other stuff as seriously and just might use it more as a crutch like that could be harmful because it became such a hot celebrity weight loss thing yeah a lot of people are kind of getting access to
5:04 it where they shouldn't because a lot of doctors they're just dude yeah they're just signing away and that's how they make money I feel like it should be on the black market then if it's that popular people probably slanging it in the corners like hey you want some OIC it probably was before it was trending too but now it's probably going to open up the floodgates to the industry of like other drug companies being like well this is so great we might as well start you know doing our own like a sub brand of it yeah and there kind of already are on the market where they're like yeah there's like other ones besides semi OIC as a as a nutritionist and fitness coach show would you ever like recommend it I think it's a case by case too like if if you're in a position where you really need to use it and like your appetite's all over the place like like if you're you're a food addict or something yeah I I don't it's at a point now where it it's it's it's tough too
5:54 good for some people to turn down like it's it's it's for some people in their mind from where they're at they're like I need to do it and it's not problem though is what happens when they stop using it yeah that's the thing I'm generally I'm generally against it probably 95% cuz I think the problem is you have to treat Problems by the way by the type of problem it is so you know when you gain when you're like overweight that's a behavioral problem so you need to treat that with behavior correction so anytime you have a behavioral problem and you treat it with another way the bounce back is ████ crazy if you are lacking certain chemicals in your brain and your bipolar whatever and need to take certain medicine that's a chemical problem yeah fix it with chemicals but like I think for most people or at least I'm not talking about like a massive population people are getting overweight because
6:44 they're overeating and under moving yeah that's it so to fix that you UND eat and over moove and in that way it's way more sustainable versus like people that like cuz even like the people that like jump on trt too soon they rely on that and once you start um ingraining these shortcut patterns the that leads to way like that part starts to scale in your brain and I've seen so many people jump on trt not only did they not lose the weight but now they have high blood pressure because it goes okay if I can do this this fast what else can I shortcut what else can I shortcut and you end up trying to fix your behavioral problem with all these other chemical shortcuts you know but then there are cases where some people need it or if it's actually prescribed or you know some people they need the extra help maybe OIC and string training and the diet and and all that but generally I I
7:35 like to fix problems with the type of problem it is but he's absolutely right too cuz I feel like a lot of people they don't maximize the daily stuff they could do and it does you don't have to and when you start they maximize that burrito though that's what I'm saying cuz it's more way more fun it's delicious from Sonora Sonora town [Laughter] baby burrito and just sprinkle some mic before wrap it up yeah I then you eat a little bit you're like I don't even want this any get out of here it's a shot so you got to just inject your burrito are you familiar with Jillian Michaels yeah she's the uh was she Biggest Loser she was I think she was one of the coach I know that she's like a fitness Guru from like she's like the OG Superstar like so she's been I guess she's been pretty outspoken against like you know she's she's a very like work for the Improvement kind of person it
8:25 and then she started posting like um or she started ads not ads but like um she Point pointed out something interesting about Oprah so you know Oprah her weight's been like up and down through the years um stadman yeah St yeah problem so um Oprah uh recently like people have been thinking that she's on OIC cuz her body is like looking banging now they got the same they got the same logo dude the same o and then Jillian Michaels pointed out that Oprah owns a she owns like 10% of Weight Watchers which she bought like a while back remember when Oprah promoted Weight Watchers a crap that's because she bought shares in it so then um Weight Watchers actually bought a company that provides access to OIC see you got to trace it you just don't know what people or how they're incentivized Michaels is sort of pointing out that like Oprah's um kind of in a way
9:17 Shilling OIC isn't that lowkey just like good business tactics though but but it goes against Bad moral ethics it goes It goes against Oprah's isn't that America yeah I guess it kind of is some Americans are pure I think Oprah also has a history of of trying to uh you know kind of say that it's not the weight loss drug got it so then that's the conflict she's she's not a she's not she's buying it well they don't know they don't know for sure but that's what Jillian Michaels who's like plugged into that world is kind of insinuating that like Oprah who normally would say like oh that's the easy way out is now part of it profiting from the e Fitness influencers that are on steroids but then tell you oh it's this program or like this supplement so they do three sets of 12 know what it is yeah yeah
10:08 yeah you're doing three sets of eight I do three sets of 12 that's why I look ████ like people people show Chris Hemsworth right for his app oh yeah cuz like dude you look at that dude's body he's out of a ████ you know he's literally Thor he's like the buffest he's not doing any of the exercises that he tells you to do his program is like you do these exercises you're going to get look like me and they're like jumping jack progr like this dude he's like dude you want to get buff arms yeah it's like it's like dud how you got buff arms bro that's crazy just Hammer your shoulders I think I was the most lowest body fat people are like approaching all this ████ wrong these pills these drugs they're like a drag the best way hands down is becoming a raver because when you're a raver genius was expecting that you don't you probably start smoking Newport cigarettes or some kind of menthol right
11:00 you bite yeah and when you smoke you probably don't but you keep your cardio up because you dance all night and you sweating your ass off and all your friends are like make sure you drink water so it's kind of healthy lower steady you drink Gatorade cuz they taste even better on ecstasy or orange juice cuz it picks orange juice or pineapple yeah vitamin C it's almost a healthy lifestyle yeah and you're on ecstasy all night so you don't even know that you've been dancing for 5 hours straight with no tons of calories and before you know it you go home and you're sore as ████ the next day but got appetite cuz you only got a pacifier in your mouth you have a pacifier that you've been sucking on and then for me to get even more high like I ████ didn't eat the whole day intermittent fasting wow dude there's days boom when I had the ████ flu and then my friends were like trust me dog
11:50 you go to a rave and you ████ dance it off and I was like are you serious so I was there with a fever whatever pop some pills I ████ went and then in the next morning man I was cured dude I slept 48 Hours everybody else of the r had the flu when they went home though my mom thought I was in a coma but worked out if that's true how do you how do you explain this scene they just started raving they're newbies they're newbies did all you type was rapers started dude they've taken the first step to weight fat ravers I thought you just typed ravers I'm like this is what they look like like oh no I was 120 lbs as a raver how about you a ████ like ████ 20 through 30 I started probably
12:41 like 130 and I ended like 10:5 right I was probably like all right 120 115 not saying drug use is cool but if you're going to do OIC then why not ecstasy stack so anytime you go and you run into fat raver make sure to say oh is this your first time the get lean barbell my friend got fat at a rave and I said damn when you get [Music] pregnant
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