0:00 And we all just like crashed on like the couch and floor and stuff. And I woke up, I know, probably 6:00 a.m. to him just like rubbing my like over. Wa. Yo, don't laugh. Why you laughing? What the? Welcome back to Careful Boys. Today we're furthering um the sub and groomer story, part two. part two because apparently the groomer responded to his victim aka Subin. So, everyone knows. If you guys haven't seen the video, everyone is aware. Everyone saw the video. If you haven't seen the video, you got to watch it real quick and then come back here. The video is called um Subin got groomed to do gay stuff. Yep. Touched by a groomer. Confirmed.
0:50 I don't know what these guys are talking about, but anyways. So, he actually watched her video. So he got a So the somebody said he got a whiff of it, right? Yeah. He smelt it. I wonder if there's any new grooming content. A whiff of it. 73. I wonder how my little is doing. So here's the craziest part. The video went out, shorts were made, and it went viral. 80K. Not viral, but it went around. That's good. That's legit. But in Hawaii is small, right? So the whole island's about 80k people. So island was buzzing. So guess what? his little brother, brother. His little brother goes, "Lol." You know what I'm saying? And I was just like, "Oh, this is his little brother." I was like, "Woo!" Hey, I messaged him. Yo, my bad if it came out
1:40 bad or something. He just like, "No, that was funny." I think he tried to do something like that to me, too. Oh, what? Not the not the grooming part, but the um dude, hey, come um try this out or something. Blah blah blah. You try to get his little brother on exor. Yeah, I think he you know and the thing is man, you know, someone feels like some type of way trying it one time, they're going to try to influence other people do it, especially if it good and if you got a success, right? Right. And then that that Okay, so that was one thing. So I was just like, damn, dude. My bad if I if I dick him out wrong. He was just like, no, it's all good. I was all right. Anyways, then later on that week, he messaged me again and said, "Yo, this is like he sent me a picture of that
2:30 dude that ████ he's actually out on the street." So, I was just like, "Wow, I couldn't believe it." And I seen him. He doesn't look too bad at all. He's looking pretty good. He's looking pretty decent. Lost a couple lbs. But, I guess from what I heard is that's that's just the life he chose is to be out. So he's he's homeless basically. Yeah. So his parents, his family members, his sisters and brothers definitely tried to help. They did the best they could to help, but at the end of the day, his decision was still be to be out there, I guess, right? So what I heard. So shout out to the family. You guys are killing it. You guys did the best you guys could. Then later on that week, the ████ older sister messaged me. Oh ████ Oh, here we go. Oh my goodness. This guy got hella siblings, right? But the thing is, you didn't call nobody out. So, how would anybody know unless they knew you that
3:21 that's who you were talking about? Right. That's the thing though. The other sister messaged me and you know, she just said, "Hey, it wasn't cool." Da da da da whoopde whoop. Was it cool that you was talking about this or it wasn't cool that you felt that? It wasn't cool that I was talking about it even though you didn't say nobody's name. Did he say his name? Never said his name. Never said his name. And you It's your story. It's my story. Yeah. That's what it came down to at the end of the day, you know? Sorry, but hey. Hey, you're not mad. You're not sorry that your brother ████ grew me. You're mad that I'm ████ Hey, I think that's what she's she's more mad about you guys. Some hot takes in here. But yeah, dude. It's like, "Hey, I got t-boned." It's like, "Hey, uh, the person who t-boned you is like, "Hey, why are you talking about that?" Yeah, right. Like what? Hey, and one thing that did make me
4:11 laugh, one thing that didn't make me laugh was The the older sister said, "Hey, he wasn't gay. He was just experimenting." Co-arter, girl. Co-arter. Wait, why don't we go and give that a moment of awkward silence? Wait, your s███'s funny as ████ Cuz now we ain't going to just roast on this dude. We going to roast. Hell yeah. Doesn't know our brother's gay. That's what this video is called. Yeah. Yeah. So check it out. Why does it matter if he's experimenting or he's gay? Like it's very gay to touch a dick. Well, see that's that was my argument. At the end of the day, I'm sorry, but at the end of the day, there's no such thing as experimenting. You try Well, in science, there is. Well, yeah.
5:01 Deal grass Tyson level. He have a hypothesis before he did this, though. Just his emotions. Yeah. Yeah. True. True. Yeah. But Bart would disagree cuz he'd be like, I'd squeeze Steve's dick. He wants to hold my dick. Yeah. Yeah. But he never tried it or probably inserted it. He tried it, but he uh that's about it. Jesus Christ, man. Yeah, he cornered me a couple times. But my my thing is if you tried it Stop being weird, Steve. Feel my hand, Steve. I think you're pretty. Ask Ask Tyler. Ask Tyler. Do you think because Oh, we have a gay shield here. Ask Tyler. That's Do you think because one question, Tyler, is there such thing our gay correspondent comes out? If you if you like if you're experimenting with gay sex, does that make you gay? No. Just say yeah, man. Come on. So,
5:53 like if you did it for if you did it for like a few years even agree with the concept of like calling someone gay in the first place? Like I don't I don't like labels to begin with. Right. Right. So So like if for a few years you were like having samesex ventures. I mean, you could have been gay and then you decide you don't like it and you're no longer gay. Oh. Oh, that's that's interesting. You decide you don't like it, though. I don't think gay is like a condemnation for life. Like, it's a sentence. Like, would would you consider that experimenting? I sentence the gay. I would call that especially. Okay. I would call that game. Do you not hit my arcade again? No. Hit it. Hit it. Hit it. harder. So, would you consider that experimenting? Yeah. He was experimenting, Stephen. He
6:43 had a gay moment. Okay. Well, guys, check it out. I experimented with tons of girls and I decided not for me. So, you had a straight moment. There you go. Okay. Well, straight season. So, you're right. Daniel, would you argue though that it's different when a man is being penetrated? Well, like a receiver. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Right. Why does the Why does it matter that cuz we're very territorial as men. We'll try to talk. Maybe. Right. He's all trying to He's lobbying. Don't lobby. I'm not lobbying. Stop trying to lobby. Turn to him. Maybe. Right. He's trying to sway the jury. Stop lobbying. Is you didn't like it. That's That was experiment. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, he said it. He said it. So, all right. So, he gets an out. He needs
7:33 to know when you said that Hawaii small so like the brother knew and then Thank you very much Tyler. Thank you. Thank you Tyler. Thank you brother. Don't ever hit my arcade again. Okay weird. Do you think that because you said the island's small even though you never said the dude's name here on this show. Uh the little brother knew who you're talking about. The older sister knew. Do you think like the community knew that knew him? Yeah. So like you think like even without saying his name, even us talking about this right now, everybody knows who we're talking about that like matters. Not everybody, but the people that knows that knows. Yeah. So people who are like, "Hey, yeah, this guy tried to drug me and maybe he was trying to like rape me at some point." Like that's I don't think it ever it ever got that far, right? He was just trying to see if he would experiment with him, right? It never went that far. Just the people that knows me that knows
8:24 him. Yeah. Got it. Understood who they put the connection. So, so the point is the point is he was trying to see if you were open to taking like XC and then maybe maybe not even for sure he was for sure trying to experiment with them. Just maybe you might be open after being like on the drug to experimenting, right? That's like a possible road. That's best case scenario. By the way, I would have I I would have thought that you'd be down for that. Yeah, I would have asked you too. That's my That's all me. That's my judgment. That's my poor judgment. No, the thing is, man, we never thought of it. We never thought anything like that or thought anything that far. You know what I'm saying? Like, we were like, you thought things half as far. No, we're just like this. And then to hear that, we're just like, no, we're not even going to bother. I would thought like you're putting out so many signs, it's like, yeah, I kind of in your adult life
9:17 now when you reflect on it, you feel like it's possible that it could have gone that way. No, it would have. Are you blaming the victim here and saying he let him on? That's Ryan. Is that what you're saying with that loud tone? That's what I'm doing now. No. No. So, even at this age, if I was to try it and it would have never gone to that side anyways cuz he was just friends cuz we're just homies. Yeah. He was trying to ride with the other guy had the right wrong idea. I think the other guy just really felt a certain way. So, he wanted to experiment that way. Sure, whatever. Yeah. But for me, for,000% I know I wouldn't have gone that route. You know what I mean? Why isn't it a,000 to 200%? Yeah, thousand% is over 100%. Which is 10 100% percentage. But yeah, that's a that's a high percent. Wait, so Ryan told me the guy actually hit you up, too. Is that true? No, the guy didn't hit him up. Oh, he he
10:08 can't hit me up. The siblings did. Yeah, he's he's on the he's on the streets right now. So, I don't know what cuz I was like, if he was if he was lost, he's on he's an unhoused. He lives there. But it's but it's his choice, I believe. So, wow. And where's where's the mental issue or something? Yeah. Where's the sister in protecting him there? Where is the sister protecting? Well, the sister's protecting him by calling you and telling you that's not cool. Where's the sister in protecting this guy on the streets? That's the part that sounds funny. It's like, I'm going to protect his rap, but that fool could just keep on living for scraps. Well, that's the thing, right? I didn't get that too though because from what I heard is she helped and he went behind the back too. So I was like so this dude is not a good dude objectively around
11:00 Well, that's the thing, right? The argument these days is regardless of you did something good or not, if you're mentally ill, you're just mentally ill. You're protected from like scrutiny. You're technically protected from criticism. Criticism, right? Uh a school shooter now these days said he has a mental health issue. Yeah. So they just go they can't they can't do anything, right? They can't do anything crazy. It's a society's fault or something. It's a mental issue. So there's no way of marking them as something anymore. It's just if you're mentally ill, you're mentally ill. That's it. They're going to leave it as that. There's nothing further beyond that. You know what I mean? Oh, so their feelings about it is that like why pick on him cuz he's already like down all the way and help himself like he has the inability to be anything more than what he is right now. Yeah. But for you, you're just sharing an experience you actually had. Yeah. The ████ doesn't change if that happens. That's all it was. It's just I shared
11:51 the story. What up, guys? Come join our Patreon because there's hundreds of videos dating all the way back to 2019. That's right. If you click on the link down below, you can join our Patreon, join us on the Discord, come chat with us directly, have a fun conversation, and this will help support the channel's growth and new ideas. And also tap into our closer community by joining our Discord and get the opportunity to suggest video ideas like the ones you've seen. Thank you guys. Join our Patreon. Help us out. Thanks. See you guys there. Say hi to me. You sounded kind of ungrateful to me though when you told the story, huh? You saw You sounded ungrateful. This guy showed you how to be cool. This guy took you out. This guy wanted to introduce you to some dope ass drugs. And then there's there's a line in everything in life, right? And he was going to give you a massage, but you want to cross the line regardless. All
12:41 right. What's the line crossing? There's that stuff. What he tried to do to me? All right. But what if we what if he didn't and it was just like, "All right, at a rave, you roll together, you talk together, you get close, you're friends." That's right there. That's it. You say close. How close we get? Have you been to a rainbow? Have you done my lap? I have not been to a Never see the house. But when it's platonic, it can be ████ sick. Platonic. You sound like you're trying to groom him right now, right? Wait, this this is exactly what the guy was trying to do. Hey Joe, here's the line. No cross. You recognized it this time. Yeah, I know. I know. See something, say something. Yeah, you saw it. It was a test. There you go. You never had a platonic e- puddle with guys and girls? What's a e- puddle? when you're just sitting in a circle massaging the ████ out of each other and your ecstasy been high with a friend and been like, you know why no
13:31 sex involved. You know why you're probably attracted to ladies is because of all the magazines and TV shows growing up. Yeah, that's programmed. Yeah, you got programmed that way. You've been pre-programmed. Most of the time with it's not sexual. Could be love, could be romantic, but it's not sexual. Really? I swear to God. 100% 100% 100%. Every single time you see a two dudes roll, they're talking about how they're brothers and they're like the best of best of best friends, right? And how they got mad love for each other would do anything for each other and settling their differences and that you're mentally capable of that, right? So that's why if you take those, you're taking responsibility cuz you know, but remember they're older people too probably doing that now these days. You know what I mean? Hey, I don't know what that No. Are you telling me my dad's gay, dude? No, I'm just saying older people who take it, they know they know
14:21 where they're at. Oh, okay. When they take it, so there's a strong That's true. Yeah, I agree. But when you're taking it at such young age. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely there's no line and there's no boundaries. You just explore. That's still not a good thing if like he he was a person that kind of helped you learn all these cool things and then started to lead you down a weird road of ad elements, right? Then that's the truth of what happened. You know what's a real thing though is like sometimes mentors give you good mentorship by being terrible examples. That's what it is. I feel like a lot of that also happens in the dance industry. And maybe the siblings just don't or that sister just isn't like don't tell the story, but maybe she wishes it was in a better tone that like what a shame this happened to him rather than this fool did this to me. That's probably what it could have been. It could have been just like a way
15:12 Yeah. Flip the tone. Flip the tone. Yeah. Change it. Change it. Like how awesome. Go do the lights again. Lights go. You know, a little darker here and candles. Maybe this is the second chance because you know that the family is watching. Yeah. And speak to them. And then you did you did you did shout them out in the very beginning and said they did the best that they could. Right. Right. Right. Right. So, like change it up. Oh, wait. That might turn that ████ off. I'm not But shouldn't Okay. No, you you could turn that off by itself. It won't turn off the camera. Yeah, it's not changing much to be honest. Okay. It actually just takes the lighting away from our face. Oh, no. It's not that It's not too bad.
16:02 Yeah. Get it together, guys. Come on. All right. Okay. All right. Here we go. I'll I'll stop with the sunflower seeds. No, no, it's Continue. Continue. No, I'll be serious, man. You don't do this at a funeral. Okay. What am I doing though again? Like, am I No, serious. It's serious. Oh, here we go. Go for it. Go for it. ████ Suben, this is your chance to uh to redo what you did last time. I don't I don't know the conversation that happened between you and the fam, but then like if the fam was very not cool with the way you expressed it, like do it right now this time. So, it's same story, but do it more different. Do it more different. Do it right. Do it like same story but different. Go. Yeah. You have two minutes. He he he tried to persuade me into
16:55 things that was not my sexuality. You know, I like the story we did in the beginning cuz that was actually funny and it was awesome. You know what I'm saying? He's going to keep it like try. He tried. He tried. I tried to be serious, but I tried and that ████ did not work at all. Hey, I'll I'll do a little bit of uh clarity here. Uh many years ago, I was uh on I was just hanging out with a work friend and he was a gaming and we had a great relationship, me and him. We were cool dudes. And then one night, me and a bunch of friends and and him, we went to like a bunch of different clubs and stuff like that. And then we end up going back to his house and we all just like crashed on like the couch and floor and stuff. And I woke up, I don't know, probably 6:00 a.m. to him just like
17:45 rubbing my dick like over. Wa. Yo, don't laugh. Why are you laughing? Oh ████ What the ████ ████ You're serious? I'm dead serious. Yeah. So So no, he don't laugh, dude. You can laugh. This happens. This really happened. And it was very weird cuz I was like, "What the ████ is going on?" And I immediately just grabbed his arms and shoved them off, right? And he was pretending to be asleep the whole time. So he was doing like So he was like doing like we knew a guy who would do that in our friend group molested and he would he would all the guys in the friend group had a story about how this one dude tried to reach for his dick while they were sleeping. Dude, it's real ████ That's it's a move. Funniest ████ thing's ever seen. Dude, the first time we're opening up being vulnerable. Where's the lights for me? Where's the lights for my story? And you're going to go over here and say
18:35 this about us. That's crazy, dude. No, that's a real story. That's a real story, dude. My friends were really damn, bro. Don't Don't be sorry. Hey, stop turning so red, dude. That's not actually that funny. It's okay, stupid. I'm just trying to heal. Yeah, actually, I hope Hey, older sister chew ass out of me. No, my my my point No, my point is that I could tell that story and then his sister or whatever could come down on me. That's my story, ████ Right. Boom. Go ████ yourself. First times he was rubbing on. He I am the victim in this story. You are. He did a s█████ thing. That's ████ lame and weird. And then he never owned it either, which is why I never he was sleepwalking. He was sleeping. Oh yeah, I had spirit fingers. He was like trying to pass it off as a big joke. Spirit fingers. Wait, dude. All right. So you're not the type to take accountability for your ████ So No,
19:27 I'm serious though. Like so after that you're just like, "Yo, what the ████ bro?" Yeah. Yeah. What happened? Oh, yeah. Immediately I was like, "Yo, what the ████ bro?" And I was like, "You put hands on me. What the f███?" He pretended to be asleep. No, he he actually pretended to be asleep for like the next hour after I shoved him off of me. And then I go to get my truck cuz my truck's parked like I don't know a ████ mile away. So, I walk all the way to like butt ████ to to get my truck. Get my truck. Drive back to pick up my cousin who was there with me. She's a chick. She has big ████ fat titties. You know what I mean? Just to show you guys how straight I am right now. And then um and then um I pick I picked my cousin up. We bail. And then the next I think the next day I was like, "Dude, you ████ put hands on me, dude. You know what you did. Don't even ████ pretend anything." Yeah. Right. And he
20:17 was like, "What? No, I didn't even know. Oh my god, I'm so embarrassed. Oh my god, all this s███." And I'm just like, "Come on, dude. You're not going to own this s███." So then I still have to go to work with this guy. But I was already on the way out of the job with this. So I was just like, "Dude, who sleep ████ does this?" Well, I've never seen that. I was in the pants. Thank god. Thank god. Still in the pants. So just that was it after. That was it. Deuce is out. Never talked to him after. He called me a couple years later cuz I was I was doing movie stuff and he wanted me to maybe help him with I was like, "Yeah." Hey Steve, can you erect I mean direct my movie? Oh yeah. Never talked to me again after that. Wow. I can't. Dude, sorry you went through that, bro. Oh yeah, you didn't seem that sorry earlier, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I'm sorry you went through what you just went through when you you worked your abs for once or you busted a gut.
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