0:00 [Music] and welcome back to careful boys everybody we've got silent mic over here where did you get silent from what yeah um in the gym i used to train at uh long story short i feel like i kind of got some uh mixed personality stuff going on and part of me is really like shy as schizophrenia no i'm not diagnosed i just got like different modes you know cool and oh we all yeah yeah yeah joe definitely does yeah joe's got full throttle and full throttle now i'm relaxed just got full throttle and late to the conversation i was process i call that processing okay come on man so i just observed what was going on i was the youngest dude smallest dude at the gym uh and that's kind of when we started making youtube content you were the smallest dude at the gym yeah three they're all like 300
0:51 pounds i was like 23 they're all over 30. it was just a different time different time that's big yeah how did you get into that ████ oh which is even funnier i don't even think you better one of my best friends lisa and like powerlifting now is cool everybody does it but back then it's not that long ago like 10 12 years chicks didn't really power lift and one of my friends a little blonde chick from south africa one of my best friends my whole life literally googled like hardcore gym and she ended up at super training oh and then i was i was training at just a commercial gym coaching work and whatever and she's like yo you want to take this ████ seriously you want to learn you got to come down here and then i guess yeah besides her i was the smallest person there youtube contest started coming out it's doing uh they're filming me in interviews or whatever um maybe they didn't know my last name just because you're a part of it you're part of the the crew that i was training so they want to put you in the yeah well i went hard like i went a little harder and sometimes i showed up hard in the paint
1:42 dog yeah but some people just didn't know it's that italian dick oh we're already i'm super buffing yeah but for people who don't work out yet yeah what does that mean to go harder than paint uh i was kind of joking but not but like we trained in a team um so there's like 15 of us some people are just like ████ off it's like every group you get right like some people like go through the motions yeah some people take it serious and some people don't probably say with dancing right like you go to a classroom he's just saying that some people ████ saw kat being successful yeah and i wasn't the strongest my enemies i was the weakest by far but i just worked mediocrity um so i think that's why they put me in the youtube videos and then they gave me the nickname and then instagram youtube all that kind of started so i just kind of because you were quiet in the videos oh i was in the first one i was a little nervous because you're like so far from being silent ever since i met you yeah but i'm comfortable with you guys is your last name mugatu's uh i like mugatu that's my instagram yeah i just like too so i was like oh your last name is ████
2:32 that because he designs clothes you know zoolander right yes lander zoolander because that design is your prime minister exactly that's it yeah that's kind of cool how did you get into powerlifting it's such an interesting and niche sport uh mostly just because uh when you start to start to google like how to be faster how to be stronger how to like dunk a basketball or something again again i'm a professional athlete yeah like what's the difference between powerlifting and like lifting so powerlifting is a sport of three lifts uh squat bench and deadlift and you just compete to lift those one rep max as heavy as you can yeah yeah it's heavy real sport right dancing's not really a sport is dance in a sport no no no no first of all dancing is a sport it's not about it it is it's both no you can't be both no you choose one that's exactly right we are not about martial arts it's literally both no i
3:22 think marshall i think practicing martial arts is an art competing when you fight someone is a sport but that's both though no i mean that's literally both you just described no because when you're not performing when you're you're competing against somebody you are performing oh you know the difference between this you're not performing when i'm beating up like let's say uh ████ just because it's entertaining i'm performing let me tell you something now just because it's entertaining or there's observers doesn't mean you're a performer i think you're just being insecure because you have no art in what you do no i went to art school for 13 years you have no art in what you do let me speak for every soccer mom out there oh ████ you're not my artist no i'm an artist where's the music or the soul hey mike's a pretty good dancer that was actually pretty good i feel like he changes the same cruise bar yeah bart told me you're the dude with the mask yeah
4:12 totally the most successful you don't know you don't know swag i don't know how successful this ████ goes i do this for gas money and food right that's about the only thing that was left speaking of success which i don't have um okay so back to it yeah power lifting is mainly three yep three exercises the squat the bench in the middle as opposed to what you see in the olympics that's olympic weightlifting or weightlifting for short and they hit the clean and jerk and then uh the snatch yeah and then there's bodybuilding is is powerlifting in the olympics no they're trying to get it there it won't ever happen okay why not because uh mike's a hater there's too many federations it's too broke it's more broken up than boxing if you guys know about oh really yeah and then there's a big steroid that's one of the reasons why it karate took so damn long to get into olympics because it's even older
5:03 than taekwondo yeah like that like like ten minutes too many damn federation is it isn't boxing and the limits kind of like the best amateurs to go there and then if they kill it there they kind of go to pro boxing not really because the sport is very different from a professional level to amateur level because amateur level it's all about scoring points but then and seeing how many uh punches you could land within a form that's very olympic style that's olympic style but pro boxing is like the the game is just completely different because the pretense changes like this because there's a performance factor to it no there's no performance yes you're trying to knock knocking out is more important there's an entertainment factor maybe no but it's to win it like you have longer periods it's not based on you how many punches you land on so where is where is the same conversation concept of weightlifting the olympics versus like uh powerlifting so weightlifting there's
5:54 like one national federation and then uh one world federation okay um and so it's like so the olympics is like you guys got your ████ together come on but then if it's uh if it's like you guys are too scattered yeah and y'all dramatic we don't want none of that ████ more drugs are common where like if you're weightlifting um and you are registered and all the stuff you could get random drug tests uh no one's ever gonna drug test me apart because we're juicing out of our brains yeah they just it's not organized enough bart have you ever tried steroids no i really want to yeah really what do you feel like you really this isn't like it's a passion like a bucket list because how people on steroids talk about steroids sound like yeah it sounds like your head to neverland have you spoke with people off steroids like they've been doing it for years and then they ████ regret it because you're talking to people that are on it nope and they're still benefiting the friends that have gotten
6:45 off and we know someone they look they talk about the old days like it's the ████ good old thing but i do think they're romantic we talk about ecstasy and we go when we used to rain i think it's probably simple actually we have had him on alex yeah so even when alex talks about it he's like ████ i remember he's just squat 500 for riffs yeah but like all memory all memory you always remember the good ████ yeah you don't remember like damn i had hella acne my testicles were the size of ████ eminem's like you don't remember that you remember like damn i just added on weight yeah but they all always talk about can't get sick immunity is through the roof ████ you only need to sleep four hours because you're ████ crazy optimized and you're crazy strong sounds pretty cool you eat a pizza and you magically get a six pack it sounds like your crazy ex who's really good at ████ yeah yeah yeah dude it's fun and then it was like oh ████ and then as you
7:37 go through it you forget all the downsides of it yeah of course what are the doubts going through anything and forgetting the downside no steroids depending on what you take you can have crazy like wet dreams night sweats that sounds awesome heart attack yeah impotence okay heart attack impotence i don't want anything if you take one thing it's gonna ████ up another so like if you're trying to get jackson strong like you won't be able to go up two stairs without breathing you're like coughing or the opposite like if you do a bunch of conditioning type ████ like some epo your muscles probably just won't work what about the one that just like makes you feel alive like i don't think anyone makes i'll probably just a little bit test let's say i'm balding right now if i take it does that bring my hair back
8:27 oh no it'll take it from your head and put it on your shoulders it'll accelerate it he grows it from here and it takes it away it kind of does it gets the shoulders i don't know if you were going to take a steroid like like the most optimal one or as far as like to your goals and whatever yeah i don't know that you can get in southern california what i do with 36 hours is that it was like more legal and less taboo so then they could do more research then i'd be like because all of it's still bro talk yeah even though i have smart friends that do it they don't really know it's all like you could go to the mexican pharmacy yeah we i know i could get it i mean it's easy it's like you gotta plug it's cool you can find it but i just don't think even my smartest meathead friend knows really what's going on even though they have a lot of so you're a person of the doses and what it should be scientifically me personally i got like mental ████ i ain't trying to get angry i try to live as happy as i can and i know a lot of
9:18 people for sure for sure and they say like oh if you're angry and then you take you get angrier but like what do you know that's just like bro talk like they don't really know i think yeah it's 10 me and my 10 buddies that happened too we're like okay what about we put it on a thousand people it's usually one buddy though right right right what's the steroid that i can take or i eat whatever i want and i don't get fat i don't think that's ever like a real thing but it will help you build muscle just diet pills yeah dude just do fat meth yeah yeah meth methods are really good that's probably the best but do you even have appetite when you do math nah not like meth oh so bad it was so good no it's just bad that's just crypto talking today's video is brought to you by hello fresh
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11:50 off the record 14 to get up to 14 free meals and it's the holiday seasons there's all kinds of yummy stuff like pumpkin spice everything so make sure you go check that out up to 14 free meals plus three free gifts oh it's my favorite yeah yeah no but i do want to bring it back and remind you the dancers are both athletes and okay explain it a little better okay first of all i would say the similar argument that i made to martial arts is that like when you're practicing it's a really bad argument no i think i think that's right i think that's fair i totally agree with barbara and lebron doing something just as violent as graceful isn't that art and sport together how is him this is violent that's knocking a guy out if you okay like me taking a ████ his art because i produce no no no no no no listen listen artist's objective yeah yeah so if you want by the way i will take it personally if you don't uh accept at least the conversation of what i present
12:40 then i i think that you are totally judging without knowing as long as you bring me into the crew dude perfect perfect how do you preface that you guys need a token white guy we have two um and they're very good for illegal cases in marketing oh then you get three we also have one black guy and that helps solve everything oh that guy's from sacramento yeah you know ace right yeah okay so that being said ace that's cool yeah his name is josh but his last name is ventura so his nickname is ace that's sweet his actual name is josh ventura okay so that being said yeah so let's say in like taekwondo right yeah in that one or or many or even karate there's like katas or there's like forms yeah and then there's also actual like technique for sparring i don't know what words you said but i've heard about this uh there isn't one that's what's in the olympics right those are the cottages
13:31 oh really because they talk ████ on that right yeah because you kind of the fighters ████ on it it's art not fighting the kata's is like a routine talking ████ maybe not talking ████ maybe not talking ████ they say it's art like even rogan makes that argument i think i think a lot of people do but like when you watch it we talked about this on here when you watch the kata's being done part of you is like all right what is this it's figure skating art or sport to you that's probably also because you're the type of guy who goes into like a a modern art museum and you're like i don't get this oh that's not true no that's me that's mean dude because it's mean for you to look at concepts and be like this is weak no it's not that it's weak it's you're a mean guy i mean i don't know i think he's a nice guy what i'm saying the practice of katas i totally understand why somebody would do that right it's gets you better awareness it's like a form it's a designated form play fighting i believe pretty much but it's like it's it's good for connection
14:21 it's good for ████ like understanding the technique and going through a flow and shadow boxing with somebody else exactly but you don't want to think about fighting but you you won't see shadow boxing competitions you know what i mean they should be it's like air band huh but that's what makes it an art it's a guitar hero the fact that you don't compete with those things in that way and then you can appreciate and respect it for the things that are beyond what you see but when you add judging to it then it becomes inherently a sport which is exactly why dancing is both art and sport you literally just backed me up no but i never said it wasn't a sport or dance i'm just saying i can i can have a judge there for two homeless people fighting against sports it's called bum fights that's true but it wasn't a sport that's for sure with bart's reference at like lebron moving in an aesthetic way
15:11 because he's a good athlete but we think that's aesthetic because he's good athletes and that's what athletes look like then yeah everything but what is the definition of a sport uh i literally just did on this on a podcast i'm saying what i'm saying is this uh lebron and someone else can both shoot a three-point shot right yeah the goal and purpose of it is the same they both increased the score by three points yeah that's the sport side of it the art side is how they do it that's what i'm saying so if that if you want to say that i'll say i agree then everything's art and sport soccer football and then i'll say like okay and then the world is boring no soccer is incapable of being an art no way dude a little ████ dude of flopping man-to-man human human you're honestly thinking that that soccer ████ that soccer and dance
16:01 are the same level of athleticism and artistry no but i was saying if you want to take the lebron james case yeah then i'm going to say that's that that's the same thing yeah are you a fan of kobe i'm a fan of all sports i love dancing he doesn't know anything i love dancing music more than i like sports you guys seen this have you guys seen this dance and other art forms and athletics in alignment with one another well um there was a there was a year we played uh indiana pacers in the finals i rolled my ankle really bad j.l rose stepped under me on purpose five he admits it now finally and rolled my ankle really really bad i came back finished the series but i couldn't touch a basketball until mid-september which was driving me crazy i couldn't train but i looked at this was like the tenth time i rolled my ankle in one season
16:52 so i'm looking at that i'm saying okay i gotta address that and so being that i couldn't get on the basketball court um what i did was i took tap dancing lessons okay no kidding i took a tap and it changed my rhythm and my approach to the game i was able to change speeds when i came back the following season um you know i think dancers um put way more strainer in their body than athletes do and i think there's a lot that can be learned from that my daughter took ballet for several years and i would sit there in the class right and i didn't know what i was getting into i don't know anything about ballet right but i'm sitting there in the class and i'm watching her and watching get the first position the second position i'm sorry i'm learning the structure and the rules that go along with that and as athletes there's a lot to be learned from that because if you simply go out there and perform and play
17:42 and you'll be great every now and then but if you play with structure if you understand the rules that come along with that the discipline that comes along with that then you reach another level all right listen to this wait listen to this yeah that means that he was listen to this okay and that dance could be beneficial for athletes and i would say ████ yeah i could yeah i took interpretive dance for 12 years okay listen to this okay did you really swear to god hey listen to this okay so no i never did that and it's not athletic no sport in athletic is different sport and athletic is different but god damn it listen to this dancers around ████ listen hold on this is gonna answer everything yeah cause i just did this competitive it's competitive physical activity or game so it has to be competitive so in the act of a competition like abdc or whatever in that dance is a sport because it's a physical you got certain
18:34 but if it's just self-expression yeah so that's just art didn't i literally just say that so didn't you guys literally just confirm that dancers are both artists and athletes it depends what they do in context didn't kobe just say that dancing is great for exercise did he say that he's a tap dancer you thought it was a great warm-up i think but also i don't think i don't think anyone you're tying you're tying sports athlete and i'm not i don't think anyone's saying dancers are not athletes whatever in the beginning this conversation no no it was sport not a sport because i think there's sports where you're not an athlete let me make it really clear golf i think golfers are not the best i just don't understand why what you guys are arguing against what i might be saying we're not arguing no i'm into semantics and you're not i'm going to go i'm going to use the semantics which is why i'm going to go you're an athlete and an artist and i do sports you do with dance but not all dancers do dancing is not a sport
19:25 you are a you compete dance is a sport for anybody who chooses to recognize to compete what about so therefore i'm allowed to say dance is a sport you're not allowed to tell me dancing sport if i compete with you you compete with it yeah so i'm saying dance is a sport yeah so it's not wrong dance can be dance can be but dancing is not semantics no no the semantics says dancing is not a sport that's correct what about tickets i would say dancing is not or is a sport i said dance is a sport i'm gonna go i will go to ten performing arts centers and i'm gonna tag them with dance is not a sport and i want dancers with hope in their eyes to go up there and be like oh that's what i'm gonna do now just because you think dance is a sport it's like saying like acting's a sport is it no but when you try out for something you're competing against somebody in a basis if there is a game
20:16 behind it it is no it could be yeah but i think dance is an art but that you do computer physical activity that like pushes the bounds of human experience in the acting part i don't think you have to push the bounds of humans experiences stunt auditions oh yes no even just acting you're moving you're moving your body do you have a better argument with me against china or esports yeah but now with esports poker and all that why that is considered a sport is because of the game aspect of it so that's why in dance it there has to be a game aspect there has to be a competitive aspect why b-boys and b-girls are going and no one's arguing against that that is a sport it's a sport there yeah i agree yeah so why are you guys talking to me like you're arguing like you need to convince me because your blanket statement that all dances that's why i didn't blanket statement that i was just saying something that you denied it therefore i had to back up the fact that it's not it can be yes yes it can be my own file i'm talking about boxing lebron james
21:06 yeah i would love this one a little bit it can be for sure lebron's artiste [Music] foreign
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