0:00 Do they seem like intelligent, calm people that have a methodical approach to training or do they just seem like, "Let's ████ get it. We're just doing thrusters until someone dies." >> Cuz you know, when you go to a mixed martial arts, >> I [laughter] like those >> there. And there's our problem right there. >> There you go. And then later at the hospital, you'll be like, I went with the wrong guy. [laughter] I dropped the bar on my face. >> All right. Welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys where we have again Dr. Mike and Jared here with us. Eye candy for the thumbnail. Period. I'm asking the same question again that didn't get answered last time cuz it's so bad. >> Yo, my fault. >> But I needed to know. you've gotten a chance to bring on or collaborate or do videos with people in the calisthenics field, in the CrossFit realm, in the
0:50 Navy Seal realm to even like uh talking about like Joe Rogan's workouts and stuff like that based on categorically the amount of different types of like fitness lifestyles or philosophies. If you could rank which is just the most premium athlete, how would you rank those categories? >> I I don't even need to rank it. I have one exact winner. >> Really? >> Yeah. Can we guess? CrossFit for sure. >> Oh ████ >> CrossFitter will be um just sub elite at everything at the same time. >> Like I if you have if you're pretty good at something like you're pretty good lifter, you're pretty good at gymnastics. These are all different people, right? Another person's pretty good at swimming, another person's pretty good at running. A world class CrossFitter will be just as good and better than you and all of your friends at all the ████ they're very very good at. Like if you went to the gym and you
1:40 only trained with weights, like when we put uh Rich Froy, right? >> Rich Froy, one of the best of all time, >> like 10 sets of 10 in the squat and just kept going. He'd get done with his sets and just breathe like three times like, "All right, I'm ready to go again." >> It was so >> that would bury my ass. And I'm a ████ professional in just lifting weights. >> I had these guys, him and his training partner. So we did like four by 20 in the high bar squat. >> Insane. And he would dude and he would rack the weight and be like, "Whoa." Right. That was tough. I know it was heavy weight, too. 20 people. It's like, >> yes, these are all close to failure. Okay, so okay, that didn't work. I was like, come on, we're told to do something here. >> I would need to rest like 10 minutes in between. >> I put backpacks on these ████ and gave them dumbbells and had them lunge like 50 steps back and forth, back and forth. They wouldn't get tired. >> Isn't that their normal thing in CrossFit? Like wearing like rucking packs and stuff like that? >> I was trying to nuke them and it just didn't work. I'm like, this is it was
2:30 just unreal. Just totally different level. And the thing is they're competent gymnasts, they're competent swimmers, they're competent runners, >> sprinting and long distance, >> sprinting and distance. I mean really like they are the ultimate in a sense the ultimate generalist athlete as a crossfitter. And let me say something that I want to go on record. Both the ladies and the men in CrossFit on my very finely tuned rating scale of attractiveness could get it out of 10. >> Absolutely. >> My god, a crossfitter. What an exotic. Can I ask you a question? Do you think it's uh more so the so what we do you think we got to this end because of the training style is able to take the general athlete and get them there or is it more so a filtering process that you end up you end up with the most elite of
3:22 athletes? >> What a great question is absolutely both. Neither can be excised from the equation because like all sports you just like if you're just a regular dude and have like let's say below average genetics. >> Jared's above average. >> Thank you. >> In many ways. >> Big He got big old thighs, dude. >> Doesn't he? He has big old everything. [laughter] Um, >> cuz most CrossFit gyms I go to, >> the general population, the 80% I would say you have most dudes in there that been doing it for 2, three years, all squat under 315 and they look very normal, great technique or whatever. And then there's the one freak in the corner that's cleaning 365 or whatever, right? And I I see that almost in every single gym. So I go are they is it possible to bring kind of like a C-grade biological specimen and bring them to a A or is it
4:12 just this you know like this gauntlet that produces the >> Yes. I let me let me address that directly. So it depends on how you're grading compared to who. If you're taking someone compared to the average athletic gym person, you can take C-grade genetics people, throw them in the gauntlet and intelligent CrossFit training for three years and they're just going to be aged at the gym against runners, against lifters, against gymnasts. A great for sure. If you're talking about elite CrossFit, there is no way to become an elite crossfitter unless you have ████ unbelievable genetics and you put in years of just suffering and work and suffering and work and after that years more of suffering and work. That plus elite genetics is the only thing that take you to the top. When sports become very competitive and people around the world do them and CrossFit is a global sport, you just can't really win stuff unless you have amazing genetics and [snorts] you're putting in crazy work because everyone out there is doing the same
5:02 thing. And Icelanders exist and they never miss. >> Yeah. >> And Samoans. >> Yeah. Well, see, you know, Samoans aren't really super represented in CrossFit. I'll tell you why. Samoans are not highly represented in CrossFit and African-Americans are not. Because both Simone and African-Americans have a more fast twitch, explosive, muscular body type and their actually endurance capabilities are not that amazing. Yeah. So, which is why they're good at like, you know, American football and ████ like that and lifting and bodybuilding and not as good at cross trainining. The cross trainining thing of endurance plus getting because like the best endurance athletes in the world are typically Ethiopians and uh Kenyans and Somalians. They're East African. They very very different from West Africans and the some of the best strength power athletes in the world are West African, Samoa and things like that. But guess where old whitey gets to dominate in the >> air guitaring.
5:53 >> Guitaring. >> Hey, does enough black people start start doing air guitar? They're going to be ████ fun. >> You hope not. I sure hope not. >> I have a question about CrossFit. How come they call it like a injury factory and a and a chiropractor's dream come true when they're open next to a Cross CrossFit? >> Have you ever seen a CrossFit? You wouldn't want to work on that as a chiropractor. You heard me. >> A lot of CrossFit boxes just didn't have a actual level to certification process until like a few years ago. >> So they were just opening gyms and like, "Oh, we're just going to do these CrossFit workouts and then they do some crazy s███." >> It's like a martial arts. >> Yeah. They couldn't teach technique properly. Exactly. Exactly. >> It's like does not >> But they were all just paying for the license for the name and then just call it a CrossFit box when it was hot. >> So how do you filter if you want to start CrossFit? Like if someone hears this, they're like, "Dude, if that's the ultimate, that's what I want to do." How do you know right from the wrong? >> At least make sure they have the certifications. It goes up to level three. Y
6:43 >> as long as their coaches are like somebody's up to a level three coach in there. >> Talk to the coach. Talk to >> talk to the owners. Do they seem like intelligent, calm people that have a methodical approach to training? Or do they just seem like, "Let's ████ get it. We're just doing thrusters until someone dies." >> Cuz you know, when you go to a mixed martial arts, >> I like [laughter] that guy >> there. And there's our problem right there. >> There you go. and then later at the hospital he'll be like, "I went with the wrong guy. I [laughter] dropped the bar in my face." >> Question. So, he's talking about intelligent uh CrossFit coaching. A very easy question is, "Do you do your programming daily or do you do it monthly?" >> That is a really good question. >> So, what does that feel like? >> There's guys that do so, they have they call them wads, right? Workout of the day. There's guys that just pull the ████ expo marker out of their ass, >> start writing ████ >> and today this is what we're doing. And
7:33 then at the end of the week, because they're pulling out their ass, they could have hit lower body like six times this week and literally did none of the other actions. >> The guy that has intelligent programming is looking at, okay, what do I want my athletes to accomplish in 3 to 6 months? Are we bringing up their running? Are we bringing up their upper body, their pulling strength, skill, strength, all of that? So, if they go, oh yeah, I do my programming long periods of time. He's an intelligent coach. And then the other part would be ask them how their wads are broken down. So very smart uh coaches instead of just randomly like you know what because it's already shown that doing plyometrics after heavy lifting is no good. There's a specific order you should be training and if they go yeah we do this we do skill work at this time like doing learning how to walk on your handstands because you can't be doing that if you're ████ fried after cook after doing like heavy deadlifts or whatever. If they have an
8:24 intelligent way of programming even per session you're like okay this guy's thinking. >> Gotcha. So basically you want to start with uh technical explosive moves. You go into explosive and strength moves. Then you go into volume like sets of 10, sets of 15, and then you go into endurance work. Not every session has to be that, but the average session has to follow that paradigm. One of the things Bart was saying earlier was super spot-on was that if you have like six leg emphasis days in a row and then no upper body, where is that a problem? Here's where that's a problem. If you bang your knee joints into oblivion six ████ days in a row, you're probably going to be okay. some fraction of your gym membership or well, let's just call it what it is, Jewish and have bodies that are broken already to begin with and they're just gonna fall apart into pieces. I did say I'm allowed to say >> listen. >> Yes, >> you could say more than >> I can say a lot more. That's not a good idea. Get cancelled. >> Let her rip. [laughter]
9:14 >> Now I I wonder for a long time when someone was going to address the conspiracy. Godamn it. Um so basically the problem is you get these wear and tear injuries. a real smart way to program which was Bart was alluding to. Bart, by the way, your answer was so ████ good. I don't even know why how you have Jared on here. You could have ████ just taken that on yourself. >> We just don't like to hear from him. >> Yeah, >> Bart, shut up. >> Here's your PhD. >> Yep. You're welcome. >> Typos on it, too. >> Yeah. Oh, no. But that's real. >> Give them away. I heard. I really do. >> I didn't just hear. I paid for mine. Um, University of Phoenix. >> Nice. Nice. That's a deep cut. >> Also, I have two PhDs. People don't know that. I have one from Trump University. >> Very [laughter] nice. >> I wanted to be biased. Left and a leftist and right-wing. You got in early. >> Oh, yes. Yeah. It's no longer a thing, which makes it more exotic cuz you can't get one anymore. >> Nope. >> If you pay the tariff, you can continue. >> Exactly. [laughter] Yes. >> $1 million. >> So, like a real smart way to program for
10:05 CrossFit is let's say you're taking a look at multiple days through the week. You're like, "Okay, today we're going to do every everything because CrossFit's about doing everything, but we're really going to emphasize upper body explosiveness and strength. Tomorrow we're going to do everything, but really emphasize lower body explosiveness and strength. The day after we're going to do everything, but we're going to emphasize whole body endurance. and the day after we're going to do everything, but we're going to uh emphasize gymnastics and coordination and stuff like that. And then you take a little break and you come back and you repeat that cycle. That's not the way to do it. But you guys noticed everything gets hit, but nothing gets overemphasized too much and grinds you into a pulp. That's how you got to do it. What Bart was saying, this is like gez giving me ████ PTSD. When your coach comes in, and this happens in God, this happens everywhere. This happens in jiu-jitsu all the time. Coach shows up and he's like, "Well, let's work on this move." Why is he working on the move? Why is your CrossFit coach just writing with a marker randomly? Cuz he was drunk last night and he's hung over and he doesn't
10:56 give a ████ and the gym's doing fine enough that he gets money to go drinking with and that's all he cares about. He doesn't care about you. He's not a processoriented person. This was like plan C for him in his life and now he's just like doing the thing. And so he's like and you know your people pay you. They don't know. And a lot of really smart people, good business people go to CrossFit and they stare up at the at the wall and they think the coach is like an authority figure. He's got to know stuff. when all of a sudden they're, you know, they're getting cooked and they're getting hurt because coach never gave a flying buck. He's just making it up on the spot. And that's how unfortunately too much training happens. And the other hand, you have tons of CrossFit coaches and jiu-jitsu coaches and everyone in between that are just like meticulous, detail oriented, and they give a ████ And they not only do they have an intelligent program, but they help some folks adjust the program to their own needs. That is an all-star coach. That's whose gym you want to be at. >> Capable RP strength. I mean, RP strength
11:48 >> without the uh without the nuance stuff cuz you're not going to go in and ask like, "Oh, do you schedule the upper before the lower blah blah blah?" Like, the first two things are just for the layman. That's how you know like are they certified like level three coaches? Do they do just weird one-off programming? So, the first thing Bart said plus that like if you're just a layman cuz you're not going to go and be like, "So what do the programs look like?" and try to assess them based on everything he just said. >> I don't know what that is. >> If just focus on those two first. Level three is that like being a certified black belt >> like for CrossFit. >> That's like their highest certification. >> Yeah, it's the highest one they have >> is level three is the top. You can't have like a red coral belt. You can't >> Now what are we're live right now, right? We're recording. >> There are levels of CrossFit certification, sir. That's a little bit kind of like, "Hey, when's the thing happening?" And he's like, "Shut the ████ up about the thing." Then he hands you a handwritten note. Uh it's a plane
12:38 ticket to Abstein's Island. >> That's where level four certification occurs. No relation to everything else that happened on exercise >> gymnastics. Wait, what was the actual controversy actually about that one time? >> Human trafficking [laughter] >> in CrossFit or >> No, Epstein. No, the CrossFit one. >> Also human trafficking. Next question. >> Wasn't there some sort of controversy about the guy who like started CrossFit? This two controversies. One's Greg Glassman. He's the one that started it. There's another guy. He's the main programming guy. He's a former Navy CEO, but I don't know what happened with that one. >> There was just like a >> What happened with Greg? >> There's a few things, man. like uh CrossFit box is getting information about what would be in the games and that gym is specifically doing really well. >> Got it. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Whoa. Do you guys know what that means? Can we explain? Okay. So, the CrossFit games happen every year and I just go there to look at men and women and save
13:28 that into my spank bank, you know. So, I'm there every year usually with a hat and a mask on in the bleachers. So, um >> and a trench coat. >> Always a trench coat. So, everyone knows like, "Oh, it's Dr. Mike and his trench coat." I'm like, "Ah, god damn it." [laughter] Anyway, I've [clears throat] done enough. So, the CrossFit, the the ultimate test in CrossFit is showing up and have ████ no idea what the events are because CrossFit is the generalist principle. It's the anti- specialists. You have to be ready for everything. >> Like, there's like a hundred potential events, technically more, and you're going to do like 10 of them in that competition, and you don't know which 10. So, you just have to be the best, right? And so if you have some gyms in CrossFit who on the low are telling their athletes, hey, for sure this is going to be in the games, that is a massive advantage. Why? Because the principle of specificity means that what you train exactly, you get like way way
14:19 way better at a few weeks. There's 10 in the games. >> Oh, so people were cheating on the test so they would know the 10 events that Well, that's at least what's the what the controversy? I have no ████ idea. >> That's the controversy. >> I'll put this into Asian terms. so that you can understand. [laughter] Imagine you're >> Steve, pay attention. >> You're taking a like like uh like a California math proficiency test for elite students that they don't even test high school math. It's like some ████ with no like there's no numbers in the ████ It's like a shape and the letter A and you're like find the hypotenuse and you're like what the ████ is a hypotenuse? Some big brain type of ████ Do you still have to be smart even though you know the questions are coming ahead of time? Of course, man. Otherwise, you can't do them. But if everyone's ████ smart and some people know exactly what type of geometry they'll be testing and other people are like doing algebra and like graph theory, they're going to be real good, but practice on that specific problem
15:10 set is huge. And so just the same way in CrossFit, if you get under the hey, here's what's happening. It is a massive advantage. I don't know anything about this controversy, but apparently that's a thing that happened. >> It was just online for a long time. >> I'm just proud of myself in the fitness space because that was actually the math thing was more confusing than the previous actual description. Give me your Asian card. [laughter] >> I just like the part where Anthony said, "What was the controversy at Epstein Island anyway?" >> Clip it. Cut it. Clip it. >> How come How come you're pretending not to know about Epstein's Island stuff? It's kind of odd. We're going to we're going to talk about Jewish people on the next
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