0:00 You know how some people lack an understanding of social cues? >> Oh, 100%. >> Among Chinese people, it's ████ up. >> There you go. Did you hear Chinese or autistic? Have you ever heard of that? It's like a thing. >> I think that's his thing. >> Like their baseline is autism. >> I think Chinese baseline is autistic. I believe it. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. It because it makes the society function better. >> You mean the Chinese ba What do you mean [laughter] the baseline is autism? What he's saying is if our society was all autistic people, we will function. >> No, like like you know like let's say uh let's say the baseline Korean is angry. >> Yeah. >> I think the baseline and like let's say the baseline baseline Japanese is precise. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I think baseline Chinese is autistic. Interesting. What are some What are some things that you've noticed that support that?
0:50 >> Like uh everything. >> Why do you care about emotions? >> It's literally everything. Yeah, be practical, man. >> It's like the uh it's like obsessing over like the like school education or just like hyperfixating on like one specific thing, whatever it is. And then if you get really good at it, they're like, "Oh, that guy's really good at whatever the ████ it is. >> It doesn't even matter. >> It doesn't whatever the ████ it is." And like if like the piano thing, really good at piano, oh my god, he's really good at piano. Even though they're not a pianist and it doesn't like, you know, has no functional bearing on their ████ life. the the like the physical contact thing like the not like uh not hugging not touching each other >> you know the eye contact like respect me don't look at me you mean that's not weird in Asia that's just respect like you Korea too it's like don't look at me I mean why are you looking at me >> yeah eye contact's weird for Asians >> yeah eye contact is weird physical
1:41 contact yeah just obsessing over like whether it's like studies or just like some task to hyperfixate on and then like everything else doesn't matter like other people's emotions, your children, >> everything everything either is in the way of goals or supports the goals. Yeah. >> And everything else is ████ >> Wow. Okay. So, that's not a learned trait. That's a default setting. >> I think I think it's both genetic. >> I think it's thousands of years of breeding for that >> cuz like Chinese people invented like the civil service exam like the SAT ████ here. They invented that like thousands of years ago to select for like bureaucrats. So whoever is like, "Oh, I'm really good at ████ taking tests would get better jobs in society and then they procreate." So then those same
2:32 traits just keep propagating over time. >> Right. Right. Right. >> So they're like, "Oh, that guy's here." You be like, "Oh, that guy's a little bit weird." Like, "No, that guy's really good at whatever the ████ he does." And that's like that's like a like I have a bit about how like what they call symptoms of autism are just virtues and confusionism. Oh yeah. Okay. Right. >> It's like what they call defects in America are just the keys to success in ████ Asia. >> I think China is super merit-based and super corrupt. So they got both. >> But it's like merit-based corruption, you know? It's like you benefit me the best. Japanese is like family based nepotism corruption. >> So they're not like in Chinese society, you're never really scorned for not catching social cues. They don't give a ████ Huh? >> They don't give a ████ about social cues. Like nobody's like >> excellence above everything else I feel. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's probably why it's like a useless thing to develop.
3:23 >> It's not like social, it's like cultural cues, right? Like it is social to respect your elders a certain way or like you know like let them eat first or blah. Like that's that's like a cultural cue though. >> You know, it's like do you respect the hierarchy? If you follow the rules of respecting the hierarchy, that is you obeying social cues. But it's be like but social cues is the it's like let's say he's over here with a baby. >> Yes. >> Going to sleep, right? My phone rings. >> HELLO. [laughter] >> OH, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. WAIT. The baby didn't hear. One more time. Like that. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> That's like the Chinese cuz like my phone call with whatever savings I'm about to get on insurance is more important than what the ████ going on.
4:13 [laughter] >> Yeah. And you're and you're and you're both smoking. >> Yeah. >> I think cuz I remember when I was like back in China as a kid with my mom and she would tell other like aunts and aunties that we met, they'll be like, "Oh, like Western kids don't have respect." Like she would say in Chinese like the mayo mo. I'm like, "No, the respect is just different. It's not like the same respect." Like like in Asia like you see an auntie or uncle you have to like say hello to them bow whatever the ████ like give them your like attention and ████ versus like here there's just other social cues like they have their own things over there that matter that are I feel like all kind of like funnel into some type of hierarchy thing versus here there's like actual social cues but they're like they're just different. >> Yeah. No, I agree. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like over like let's say with the Chinese uncle >> to show like the respect or that you
5:05 care, it's like, "Oh, hi uncle." And then he's like, "Oh, hi. Here's like a red envelope, right?" And then you're like, you show the respect that they're an elder. But over here, you see your uncle and you might be like, "Hey, what's up, Frank? How you doing?" And he's like, "Oh, how's college going?" He's actually caring by talking to you, but from the Chinese eye, he's like, "Did you just see he just calls Uncle Frank? What the hell is that? That's crazy." So, it's like it's like it's like really off. >> Okay. >> Versus the other two pairs, they know nothing about each other besides the annual money giving, but they really don't know anything. >> Oh, okay. >> But then they care because he does show up to give the money annually. >> Yeah. They probably don't care that much about your life. But if you use the right honoric, they care about duty. >> It's duty. Yeah. It's like, do you are you following the rules?
5:56 >> Yeah. This is the right thing to do. This is what we're supposed to do, so do it. >> Are you being useful in the family? I think that's pretty much all Asian trait. >> I see. I do think the one pro of being like bound by your duty is that I think Asians in general even the US like in the workforce like if you say you're going to do something there's like a still a sense of like I'm going to do it versus like the rest of America most of the time is just you following up on ████ Do you know what I mean? It's like yo hey man can you do this already or like hey man this is like two weeks. >> Yeah. I think Americans they like looking better than actually being better. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> It's how your image is and like how like the perception of it. But >> yeah, it is true. Just like how Americans prioritize how you make people
6:46 feel in the workplace versus how much work gets done. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Like are you much more profitable? No. It's about how you feel and and if you're respected. Yeah. >> America is very fake it till you make it. And then China is very like make fake things. Yeah. [laughter] >> But no, that's why like [laughter] the Asian guys, they're like, "Oh, he's like really good at his ████ job, but doesn't socialize with anybody else." And then people don't really like him. But I was like, "Well, at least he's ████ doing his job." You know what I mean? Like versus everyone else. [laughter] >> Everyone else just likes to talk all day and have pointless meetings for 3 hours >> and then they feel good like they ████ did some work. [laughter] >> Yeah. That's one that is the truth because like regardless if you're whatever level of Asian like the thing that I think connects all of us together is we can assemble quickly and get ████
7:37 done. >> Yeah. >> And then it's like but then when you see a room full of like Americans like there's so much arguing like they can't get ████ done. >> Everyone has a valid opinion. >> Yeah. And then you have the dumbest ████ that has the same level of like merit as the as the most experienced and they're not telling him to shut the ████ up >> cuz you're wasting everyone's time with your s█████ dumb question. >> So it's like they they take forever to get anything done. >> Yeah. Nothing gets done for sure. I also think that there's there isn't that sense of like oh like you know how like I think most Asian cultures, Japan for sure, where it's like you you your sense of duty comes from you doing the thing that you said you're going to do. >> Yeah. Like you're held accountable for your word. >> You will purposely hold yourself accountable for ████ you do. Like this is >> Mhm. >> Yeah. That I don't think that concept
8:28 exists here. >> Hell no. >> What is the concept? >> It's like self-discipline. >> Oh, how do you say it? >> You mean self-aware, introspective? >> What's the word for it? self-disip like policing yourself basically like it's like self did you do it yet? >> Did you do it yet? >> Is that how you say? >> Did you do it yet? Yeah. Yeah. Did you do it yet? >> Yeah. >> Did you do it yet, Anthony? [laughter and gasps] >> But I do think like traveling to Asia, >> it's good. >> The level of like consideration that people have is so different what country you're in. So, like I think Southeast Asia is way more relaxed, but they're but they're more polite than China. >> Uhhuh. >> China is more like it's hard to explain, man. Like it's not like they're not nice. There's a lot of friendly people
9:19 in China, >> but like they don't give a ████ about you or even about themselves. [laughter] >> Yeah. Like the the whole like scream the baby putting to sleep. It's like if if it was flipped so the other person wouldn't even take the test. >> You're not going to get mad with me. >> Yeah. If it's flipped, if it's my baby and this guy screams and pick up the phone, I'm like, "Yo, what the f███?" I would even do that. If I was like Chinese, Chinese, I would just walk away. Most people are just practical. They just walk away. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I think Japan and Korea are pretty similar in terms of like >> thinking about others. >> Yeah. >> And not affecting the vibes. >> Mhm. >> But like I [snorts] would say uh >> you guys have words for it. That's why cuz you have like like Korean is like nunchi, right? Like reading the room. There's a Japanese one for it, too. >> What's the Japanese one? I don't know what the word is. >> ████ Uh, >> perfection. [laughter] >> ████ it slipped my head. No, I don't I
10:09 don't really know, but yeah, you're right. There >> you guys have a thing for it. I don't know what it's called, >> but it's like basically it's like awareness. The concept is like being aware of others and we're all, you know, like it's like is what your action affecting? It's like Maywoku. I think that's the word. Maywaku or like don't be a nuisance. Oh, >> it's like always be aware of the ripple effect of your actions onto what's going on everywhere. >> So like and then so there's um ideas like smell pollution, noise pollution, like things that are like >> that's why you don't >> Oh, like the like the signs on the subway or the train. >> Yeah. So like you know how we could eat anywhere over there? It's like what the ████ dude? >> Yeah. Eat in front of people on the on the train. It's crazy. >> Yeah. cuz then there's that >> land of the free baby.
10:59 >> Even wearing perfume even if it smells nice because it's like what if that's not their preference >> or what if someone doesn't like the smell of intense perfume. >> Uhhuh. >> So like they try to think about like >> how do I be the most bland and invisible? >> Okay. And there's no word for that for Chinese culture >> for reading the room >> for like the consideration of others around you. Is there I I don't think I was formally taught a word for it, but I think it it's it's like built into like the social hierarchy instead. Like if you're like the son, you understand the duties of you as a son, which is like obey your father and mother >> and if you just do that, then you're good. >> So the consideration is like upward upward. Yeah. >> I see. Okay.
11:49 >> Yeah. I always It's ████ cuz they don't have to do it the other way. But if you actually read the Confucian text, they're supposed to actually be nice to you, but they just don't do it. [laughter] >> It's inconvenient. >> Yeah, they just don't do that part. But they were actually there are things they're supposed to be to be dutiful, to be a good father and whatever all that ████ >> I thought one of them was like if like the dad just has to beat the kid's ass. I thought that was like >> that's one of the duties. Of course. No, >> the dad has to beat the kids ass. >> It was like, you know, like science of Jing. You ever like read that stuff? >> Uh, no. >> It's called like the three-word Bible. So everything is in three-worded phrases so that you can memorize all these rules. Yeah. So it's like three. Yeah. Three three three. And then one of them was like like if the kid ████ up >> or something then like the dad's got to beat his ass. It's like very simple. >> Wa. That whole thing can be said in
12:39 three words. >> Yeah. There's like dad beat ass. There might be like hundreds of rules but they're all in three word phrases like boom boom boom boom boom. There's a bunch of rules I guess is what it is. A lot of rules. There's a lot of rules. So if you follow all the rules, maybe the social consideration blends with the rules. >> That's it. Like social cue, you follow the rules. That's it. >> Yeah. If you follow you follow the rules. >> Yeah, that's pretty much it. >> If you're the son and you're a room full of like uncles and you just shut the ████ up and you say hello to every uncle, you follow the rules. That's you reading the room. >> Pretty good if you just shut the ████ You know how like a lot of um American influencers are like moving to Japan and all this stuff and then like >> like first there's this romance of like oh it's so cool here and whatever. But Westerners don't know what it takes to get that until they have to also comply to be a part of the community. Then they
13:29 go Japan's draconian, Japan's controlling and it's like most racist country in the How the ████ do you think that was achieved? That was achieved by everybody ratting on their neighbor like it's the Holocaust. Like that's how it's achieved. >> It's achieved by like everyone's a Karen >> and then everyone's like constantly like, "Hey, did you do that right? Did you do that right?" >> It's like if you don't, >> how's it It's going to be like America. >> Yeah. And people don't want to focus on how it's achieved because it's ugly. >> So it's as a visitor, it's chill, right? As a visitor, you come in and you're like, I feel so relaxed, whatever. But if you're there, you're like, if you're not used to it, man, you don't have the same level of social freedoms that you have here, >> right? >> But that's why it's so polite because it's like no one gets to be themselves. >> Let us know in the comments if you're
14:19 Chinese and autistic. Ch [gasps] inconsiderate.
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