0:00 Immediate intensity, as soon as Geo wraps him up, he's like he starts moving all extra. I'm like, Bart, what are you doing? Welcome to another mugbang episode of the Kevin boys. Today we're eating again which when they do the buy one get one great deal. When you don't do the buy one get one very overpriced by the way what we're getting. That's my opinion. Yeah, man. It's a 30 It's a $30 meal, but this is $26 right here, dude. Hey, thank you to the big homies. This is why we're losing money. But, you know, empty suggestion boxes. We're not losing money. We're having fun. This is true. Hey, we were in a really really good conversation for what you guys were talking about right now. Can you recap that and you're talking
0:50 about specifically training for competition jiu-jitsu where focusing on one move is better than just being like a blue belt at everything. So, you know how I recently I was really good at competing. Since the day I started jiu-jitsu, so I I go to the gym I go to is like very competition oriented cuz a lot of the coaches compete at super high level. So, that that culture kind of like goes down, you know, kind of like trickles down. So, I've always heard our coaches actually recommend people not to compete. Cuz they always they they actually go like you want to actually put yourself in a completely different mindset when you train. And it's honestly going to take your enjoyment of jiu-jitsu away. When you compete and if you do it if you do it right. So, our coaches actually tell if you aren't
1:42 ready to make that leap yet. Like if you want to compete, you better be training 5 6 days a week, do strength and conditioning, and run, and diet. But he goes, but most people just want to do 3 days a week and then try to get a medal at the end of a month. And you're going to go into a rude awakening because you never know who you're going to face. You And sometimes you'll see the ████ guy in the gym win the tournament cuz somehow he found someone s███████ or sometimes you'll the the star of the gym that you think is going to smash everyone get their ass beat. So, you just you do just this is a luck of the draw. But, the only way to get better at competing is to compete and I that's a a phrase I always heard. And I'm like, all right, I think I understand that. But, after competing and I got my ass beat is when I realized, oh ████ Like I really felt that because as a white belt
2:32 and my journey to a blue belt, I'm trying to learn as much moves as possible and that's getting good at jiu-jitsu. But, to get good at competing, you actually don't need to learn 100 moves. You need to be a master at one move that you can get anybody any blue belt, purple belt. Well, you're never going to touch a brown or black belt, but blue and purple belt, you want to be able to get those guys with that one move and just have a handful of tricks. So, I think going into it, I was probably too well rounded going into the competition. So, now coming back, I'm glad I did the tournament cuz now I'm like I need to stop being well rounded and specialize and specialize on these couple of things um to get better and to get to the next level at jiu-jitsu. How do you narrow down the couple of things? So, one is
3:24 you need to have one takedown. So, you have to be able to dictate the fight. So, you need to have one takedown you're really good at. You need to have one guard pass which just means getting past your legs that you're really good at. One escape you're really good at. And even at the white belt level, maybe even blue belt level, our my coaches would tell me the submission honestly doesn't even matter. At that level, you just need to control someone. So, you can if you can hold someone down and they can't get out of whatever the hell move, you don't even have to worry about an armbar. You could just fake stall. Cuz this is where like getting good at competing comes into play. You're not trying to be better than them at jiu-jitsu. You're trying to win the game. So, So, he would literally go like like for example one of the most basic moves you learn in the beginning is the armbar. So, when you get an armbar, a lot of times you have to kind of risk that giving up position to lay down. So, you
4:15 don't have a tight armbar, as soon as your back touches the ground, the guy is going to get up and get out of the armbar. So, my coaches would be like, if you're a white belt, don't even go for an armbar. Just lay in side control. Pretend like you're working. Look at the ref. OH MY GOD. OH, SMART. GAME. Win the game. Like that's the goal, right? It's win the game. And I'm like, oh ████ that's like a way different mindset cuz when you from the outside, you're like, oh, this guy's jiu-jitsu is good because he was winning competition, but they're actually two different endeavors. And yes, people that are good at competing at the highest level have the highest level of jiu-jitsu, but at the beginning, I think they're actually far ends of the spectrum for a white or blue belt. And then And then eventually it gets there. It's a really good point. Eventually, you start playing the game as far as the jiu-jitsu game and not just this mental kind of save your energy type game.
5:05 Cuz when you're a white and blue belt, you only know so much about jiu-jitsu. Like your your idea of what jiu-jitsu is like really narrow. So, it's like I know a lot of jiu-jitsu history. You don't have enough knowledge to even create your own game. Exactly. So, it's like you have to just focus on like what's the fastest thing I can get good at quick and do it over and over and over again. And to be actually be effective dealing with somebody. I've done jiu-jitsu for many many years and I don't even know how to do jiu-jitsu. But, you know how to wrestle. You know how to like You know the basic like principles of jiu-jitsu, right? I don't. You just get up. He just stands up. I don't remember anything. I just do it and then I don't remember how anything happens cuz I have a learning disability. I really like this conversation topic and all. If I could backtrack one step, not past or before like the gaming of
5:55 jiu-jitsu competition, just the idea of even like mastering one thing versus being a jack of all trades in a sense. Especially how you parallel that with like learning breaking and stuff, too. Yeah. It's very Bruce Lee mindset, right? Where you I fear the man I fear not the man who practiced 10,000 kicks one time, but the man who practiced one kick 10,000 times. Yeah. And it's like that's I knew that quote, too, and I even practiced that. You're like, that's a good quote. Let me try all these moves out real quick. do 10,000 things one time. And just how that's applicable and practical in like almost every skill set. And that's why when Suriya was like, dude, that's just like breaking. Can you explain what you're talking about with breaking? You do that move so many times, it's you don't have to think about it, right? So, for breaking, you do that so move so many times when it comes to competing and when it's time to get down, you don't think about it. You think about
6:45 your next move. So, when you throw that move, it's naturally flow. Boom. Second move comes right off the rip. If anything, you just got to think about next other step. So, that that that part of learning that one move multiple ████ time and getting good at that move, eventually your second move would be the same thing. It would be a easier transition and you would understand how to flow from it and how to get out using that same move. So, for B-boys like I throw windmill, don't even think about it. But now it's a it's a windmill to a move and it's also going to be considered a transition to a move again. And then at same time with that mentality, if you're good with that first move, your second move same thing. Focus, focus, focus, focus. Now that first move to the second move is natural. You don't have to think about
7:36 it. What you're saying earlier, it's definitely a good idea to get good at one move all the time. like you said, if you master something and then somebody comes at you with that move, you're already a master of it. So, you're already going to smoke them. And you have like 10 variations of it cuz you focused on one thing. That one move, you can have 20 variations of that one move. Cuz when we have guys at the academy, we watch them and they always want to try to do all the the fancy stuff. The fancy IG ████ Yeah, the stuff that's fun to do. Cuz there like you said, there are moves in jiu-jitsu. The most basic moves aren't that fun cuz it's just like But, they're the most effective. Yeah, they're proven and effective. And when you're in a competition, you're doing the most base level moves, the fundamental stuff over and over and over and over again in a system where you know, there's other guys trying to do the same thing. So, it's like you're
8:26 just trying to get your leg over this guy's thigh. Like that's The only thing you're trying to do for a minute. You guys are both battling each other. Yeah, it's not sexy. It's not fancy. Yeah, exactly. Like no one wants to practice free throws. Everyone just wants to dunk. Yeah. But, what's the But, games are won by free throws. Exactly. Exactly. By guys that can't dribble. By guy guy can't even dribble yet. He wants to win with a dunk. Shaquille O'Neal. But, I was telling Bart, I was like, this mentality that he came up with not came up with, but like that he's been thinking about like practice the one thing when I go compete, that ████ that ████ took me to a I was like a brown belt until I started thinking about it that way. Where I was like, oh yeah, I shouldn't just try a bunch of random ████ I should actually just focus on one path and then just nail that down. So, Bart's ahead of the curve. He's going to be a black belt before I was. It's funny because we have this conversation conceptually even in like dance culture stuff, too, right?
9:17 Sure. Today's world maybe also accelerated by like TikTok dances and all that stuff, everyone's a good dancer for some reason. Everybody just knows how to do things through challenges, K-pop, whatever. Like everyone's good, but very very very few are like great anymore. And what makes somebody great wasn't just like highest level execution, it was also like innovation cuz we're also in like the art space, right? a performative. That's what I was thinking in my head when you said it. Yeah, so like the only way you innovate sometimes though is when you don't get good at what everybody's good at. You have to be so ████ You could be okay sucking at what everybody else can do, but you're so good at what you do because like breaking, it means if you master one type of style, you like ev- evolve the style, or you like come up with the next version of it, or you have variations of it. And that's what makes it stylistic, cuz Especially
10:08 if you're competing, right? Cuz you see on like the biggest stage with all the best people in the world. Yeah, so like students be coming up all the time like, "How do I get better?" blah blah blah. And it's like that's so that's such a ████ loaded question. It's like, "Okay, practice a billion hours and you'll you'll for sure get better." But it's like if your goal is to be an artist, your goal is to be a choreographer, if your goal is to stand out, it's like, "Dude, don't be a dime a dozen. Everybody's just good at moving. Don't just try to be like everybody. It's like, what do you like? And then attack only that for a long time, and dedicate yourself almost like a psycho. And then you'll stand out." white belts do you see in competitions winning with fancy moves? Zero. So like wouldn't like as somebody who's observing a competition, wouldn't you start to naturally pick up on that? You'd be surprised. Because it's a head ████ like Sure, it's a mental battle, too. Yeah, it's like so much of it is mental,
10:59 and it's like And like you were talking about it, too, when you were competing. You were saying like, "I know all this my little game plan." And then sometimes when you get in there, it just completely goes out the window. Or the whole thing you're trying to manage is like your anxiety and your breathing, so you don't like gas yourself out and have a big old adrenaline dump, and then can't perform. So I think a lot of times when guys, it's really easy for people in combat sports to overthink everything that they do. Because of the repercussions are so high. I get like the entry-level, you need to be fascinated with what you're doing. You have to like fall in love with it to like reach a point where you're willing to dedicate so much time. It's like when I first started breaking, straight to windmills, cuz it's flashy, it's exciting. For sure, it's your gateway in. Yeah, right? But like of course like, you know, your teacher's going to be like, "Yo, get the foundation, the footwork,
11:49 the flow. If you have the good flavor, the style, and you can rock the beat." But you're just like, "But that's not going to impress chicks." All right. So you have to like Yeah, you got to get into that that gateway kind of like thing that that got you excited. You have to like kind of hit the accomplishment points where where you feel like, "Oh, I've invested enough where I can kind of do this, even if I suck at it, where now I I am like it's a part of my identity, so I want to learn the foundation." But that is also the difference between loving it and then the competing side. Totally. Yeah, it depends on what your end goal is. Maybe it's just to accomplish the windmill, and not to be a great breakdancer. Yeah. Or well-rounded. The people who says, "I just wanted windmills for to show off to girls or be flashy." Like 10, 20 years later, they're still stuck at the same position. They don't usually have windmills. Really? Well, do
12:40 you have windmills? Yeah. I don't think so. I think I saw it. I don't think so. As he burps. Call it out, dude. He's like, "You don't have to Hey Subi, can you windmill?" completely disagree with his statement. Because the point is like that was my entry into dance, and then I found myself after falling in love with it. But it's because I had to know that I could accomplish something, and then from there learn that this is something for me. Yeah. And then that's why I turned into windmill dancer, but it's all good. I think the biggest hack is mastering your anxiety. That's that's a big one. That's the biggest hack. I think if you can get to a a stage where you're going into competitions, you just feel calm, I think you have such a an advantage over people, and I think the only way to do that is just keep
13:30 going to competitions. That's the hard part, yeah. So my ████ advice my coach gave me when we came back. So, he's my jiu-jitsu coach, but I'm his strength and conditioning coach. So we actually hang out almost every day in the morning we train. Best friends or what? Getting swole. Or what? Yeah, dude, swole bros. You don't watch their stories, bro? Swole bros. They're pretty close. What he told me, he's like, "This is what I want you to do. I need you to compete every month." Damn. And I was like, "What the ████ Like every month? You want me to compete?" He goes, "Yeah." He goes, "Doesn't matter." He goes, "Lose all 10, I don't care. But I want you to go into a competition with a low heartbeat." He's like, "That's Yeah, he's like that's the goal." And I'm like, Smart. "I'm 40 years old, dude. I'm just trying to chill." I'm like, "The only time I want to have increased heart rate
14:21 is if I can't make a mortgage payment, like some normal s███." But I started thinking about that a lot, and I'm like, "I should do that. I should try to compete as much as I can, so that it becomes normal. Then once you get over that uh hump, you can actually think about how do I get good at a competition?" Yeah, cuz he's like, "If you're still just getting over the whole competition jitters and all that, he's like, you're not going to be able to execute your game plan." Yeah, it's such a tough threshold. I want to do one. Let's do one. Okay. I want to do one, too. But that's why Hanato's like he his style is so chill. Just at each other. For that reason. Yeah. Would you actually compete, Colleen? Yeah, I think when I have Cuz you've been doing some jiu-jitsu. When I when I train more. I'm a good uh punching bag to level up on. I would. I would definitely do it.
15:11 It would take some time. Can we do like a JK Adventure, but at Lionheart jiu-jitsu, and then all of us try to compete with each other? We should. I'll I'll I'm a good ref. I I feel like I'm at a disadvantage. Competition? A stranger's better, cuz you could go full force. Competition is way different. I got some strangers for you guys tonight. I mean, technically we don't really None of us train, so I mean, except you and you guys, but I'm just saying for us, we we only know is whatever we know, so it'll be the same level technically. Is that That's what you meant by competition? Well, not really. I bet Sub- I bet Subi and Colleen for the super fight. I'm putting my money on Colleen, I think. Oh, ████ There's no one as competitive. I don't see Yeah, but I think Subi is probably stronger. Subi is probably stronger. What? He's He's going to try to take you down. I'm taking you down. I don't think I don't think you're going to take her
16:01 down. You know what's crazy? Is uh at the highest level, jiu-jitsu kind of nullifies genders, too. Yeah. So my coach, one of my coaches, I have two head coaches. One of my coaches is a girl. She's 145. And um I roll with her every now and then. She beats the literal ████ out of me, and I don't even know how that happens. I don't know how she's able to like apply this pressure that feels like she's 250-lb man. But I'm like, "What the No, I got smoked at 87/11, too. Two little girls. I went to 87/11. And I was just like, "I'll try I'll try to You know, they just knew how to work it. Yeah. And then I just got smoked by two weight power against them. Yeah. Yeah.
16:52 I'll And like then you're not tiring yourself out, and you can just utilize that to your advantage. And like when I'm rolling with chicks, like sometimes I'm like it feels weird to like turn the man energy on. I don't think so. So like I don't like ah it's This is like just weird, right? Yeah. No, I fight for my life, cuz I can't let a girl win, but she always wins. But with her, I had to like to turn it on and I had to turn it on, right? And then afterwards, I was like, "Hey coach." I was like, you know, cuz I do outweigh you by a lot. I'm like, "Was that like too much pressure, or what is that?" She was like, "What do you mean? I just smashed you for the whole round." I was like, "Okay, fine." She says it like that, too. It's always these white belts, dude. "Did I hurt you in there?" She was like, "What the He's like, "What do you mean? You tapped like 12 times." Yeah, jiu-jitsu. I think my biggest thing is that I don't want to get injured, because my job requires me to be physical. Yeah. So that is like the
17:44 catch-22 of like wanting to do it, but not wanting to risk the injury and risk Yeah, cuz even between friends, you can accidentally Well, that's why you just got to roll with like a Colleen. Yeah, I choose That's a good one. That's That's a good way to Sometimes you don't always have the luxury of choosing who you roll with. Yeah. Um Yeah, you do. As a lady, you do. But I do. Yeah, you do. Yeah. And I and I do choose. I do I've said no I've said no to people. I definitely mainly got ████ up by rolling with white belts. Yeah. Like there's certain people I don't roll with just for that reason, cuz I'm like, "We're going to have a fight, and it's not going to be fun, so I'm not going to roll with Yeah, and I don't feel bad about it. It's It's not has nothing to do with uh The goal is to be on the mats as much as you can. Wait, how do you how do you say no to them? said no. You just say no. I'm not going to roll with I'm good, yeah. You just say no. You roll with that person. That's what I Nah, I'm Nah, I'm good. I never said no.
18:37 I take all challenges. That's why Joe's the man, though. There's something to it when you when you have that confidence to take on all challenges. No, because it's never going to be that hard. Anyway, I'll give up way faster. I'll tap out way Way faster before they can hurt me. I'll tap before they even get in ████ any type of position. I'm in guard, I ████ tap. Reset, reset. I do. The the thing that sucks ass is uh rolling with their significant other. No. You don't just hit her in the head or what? No, because they pull the significant other card. What do you mean? I roll with any other chick, we're rolling, right? If I ROLL WITH GEO, I'M LIKE, "B████, YOU DON'T SAY OW TO ANY OTHER person you roll with. But ow, start all over." I'm like, "Why?" Cuz I ████ passed your guard, ████
19:28 That's funny. She's cheating. I'm like, "You ████ pulling that card every ████ Do you feel like you go harder with Geo? No, I go way lighter, cuz I know she's a girl. Low-key, can I say something? I'm going to interject. I'm going to disagree with Bart. I'm going to disagree with Bart. When I see them cuz I actively when we train, I brought somebody in, right? So they could roll with each other. Immediately it's like it The intensity as soon as Geo wraps them up, he's like he starts moving all extra. I'm like, "Barao, what are you doing?" Cuz he can't lose to Geo. I always try to defend this fool. I always try to defend him, but at that moment I couldn't defend Cuz Barao was like, "I can't ████ lose to Geo." Geo got the best of him. It wasn't that It was just It wasn't that fact that she got the best of him. I just saw his like all his intensity Yeah, intensity just It was just way more animated. I'm like, "Dude, what is all this extra all this extra energy?" Korean guy, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
20:19 Korean guy. NEVER LOSE. NEVER LOSE ENERGY. YEAH. I mean, maybe that's just like the competitiveness. significant Yeah, kind of kind of. But then also, I think this fool just feels like way more comfortable with her, so he's like, "Ah, whatever, dude. Like, we're just going at it, you know?" Like, we're just wrestling. I'm like, "What the f███?" I never heard you say that. It's like when I see you roll with David, I'm like, "Damn, bro. This guy is trying to kill David already." David, you got it, though. You have to. Yeah. David, you got it. Cuz you don't know. Well, he might punch you in the head while you're wrestling. He No, he will punch you in the head. He'll punch you hard. I just And then he'll make it your fault. What do you think? What do you think of me sparring David? And what do you think? you while you're rolling, and then he'll make it your fault. Uh, you know you know you know every time he hits me, I start thinking immediately, that's why there's weight classes. David is hard. I was like just thinking I was looking at him like, "Yo, are you I'm not even going to ask cuz in my head I was going like, are you going soft?"
21:09 Cuz that ████ hurt. No, cuz he'll be like Ask him. You got to tell him. No, I don't like to say it out loud. Nah, dude, that's not the point of training. should tell your partner. I'm just like, "Dude." I'm like, We got to go to work. We got to go to work the next day. You got to have no concussions. No, and if you give him the same energy, he'll be like, "Hey, why you hitting so hard?" And I'm like, "I'm giving you the same ████ level." But I don't think he just uh I just think he's soft and kind of hard. That's all.
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