0:00 When you guys were kids, did your parents ever like scare you guys like, "Hey, you got to be careful. Stay close or you're going to get kidnapped and sold off to these things >> all the time." >> Yeah, but it never worked on me. >> You would always just run off. >> You're not kidnappable though. Maybe. I don't know. >> Pick them up. >> I know. >> It's probably that weird bull cut. >> Welcome back to Careful Boys. I'm going to share a very um very devastatingly sorrowful story story. >> A ████ I was laughing. >> Um yeah, you're not going to I don't think you're going to laugh once through this whole thing. >> So get it get it out now. Yeah. >> Um this is a story of Vera Craft SOA and uh she's a 26-year-old girl from Bellarus
0:50 and uh she was following a modeling opportunity that uh required her to go to Thailand. We covered a story similar to this uh but this ending is way worse. Um so she arrives for the job. It turns out to be a huge scam and the recruiters ended up trafficking her to Myanmar where uh or Myanmar, sorry I said it wrong, where they uh force her to work at a scam center. You know, they like there's like a freaking a whole like scam center slavery ring where they just like make people um basically like uh reach these unattainable quotas. >> And so she's uh forced to scam money from like guys on dating apps and sites and um she refuses to cooperate. So then
1:42 she gets sold to another group who kills her and harvested her organs for sale. Jesus. Oh my god. And then they just end up cremating her body and then the scammers contact her family and says, "If you want the ashes, you got to pay 500 grand." >> That's a lot of money. >> Still scamming till the end. That's crazy. And >> so the government of Belarus gets involved in it and they start assisting the family and then uh the scammers then agree to give the ashes to the family for free as long as they come and retrieve them in person. So they could kidnap them and then use them. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> And then so um I that's where the story is at right now. I don't know if they're even going to catch these guys or what they can even do about it because it's it's you know Myanmar. Um and then the
2:33 UN estimates that Myanmar now has about 120,000 slaves from different countries working at the scam centers. It's because they're hella unstable right now. like uh as a as a country like it's you know it's under military rule because they had like uh what do you call it when you like have a coup and then the the generals just like oh >> they just take over. >> Yeah. And then um there's a lot of rebel groups. So there's like a lot of like what do you call them like freedom fighters trying to um set it free and like whatever. And then there's footage right now too where you would see like guys in their 20s just rolling up in a jeep or like a big truck and they're all in the back and then they're like and then they're just jumping off and all
3:23 that. And then um recently I don't know if I could say his name but he likes traveling to very crazy countries and his Instagram went blank for like eight months, six months and then out of nowhere he was like yeah I've been locked up in myar but he goes to like Afghanistan and the most dangerous places and then I was like what happened and he goes like >> he was locked up? >> Yeah. So the government was using him as a bargaining chip cuz he's he's wealthy. Like he comes from a wealthy family. >> Holy ████ >> They found out his background and everything. And then they're just like Yeah. They're like, "You want him back then you got to pay XYZ and all that." Or I don't know if it was a government or rebel group, but you can't tell cuz they're all like in like camo. But I didn't get the details out. Like he just
4:13 got out. Like he's just fresh out. Like I was just like, "Dude, good. Thank goodness you're okay." Whatever. But I gotta figure out what the real story is because Myar is like crazy and Thailand too because you know like this whole scam of people like hey come on down we have a job opportunity for you and then like what ends up happening is they'll go to these factories and ████ and it's so prevalent that I recently saw it on a Korean drama called Taxi Driver where they were getting people from Korea to these like scam centers and then they would have to program casino apps Oh, I watched that movie. That's a good movie. >> It's a TV show. >> Oh, no. I watched the movie then. >> But I guess that that must be so common that another movie made it. >> A Pixar short. >> Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, cuz like um
5:03 cuz they they probably use the more safe countries. Oh, yeah. Stop by Korea, stop by Thailand, whatever. And you think it's safe, but then if they already have their hands in there, then it's >> if they have people there waiting. Yeah. cuz no one's going to go, "Oh, I'm going to go do a modeling gig in ████ Myanmar." >> So, how do they move so easily in and out of of Myanmar? >> There's no secure border. I actually saw Is it Myanmar or Myanmar before? >> I don't even know. I >> I thought it was Burma, but maybe they changed their name. >> Burma was the old name. Now, now it's Myanmar >> cuz I went to Thailand to a Mong village and I saw child soldiers and they're Myimmar soldiers. Like, that's when I saw kids my age. I was 14ish with guns. They came to the village and then the village leader and the pastor and everyone got together. They talked. They came up with the price of protection and
5:55 that was it. >> Oh, it's me and Mar. >> Me and Mar. >> That's insane. >> Me and Mar. >> Me and Mar. Yeah. I always forget which one's which. >> Man, poor girl, man. >> Yeah, that's awful. And we did do a story a while back about a um a guy who believed he was like talking to his girlfriend. Remember that? So, he was like, they were in like one of those like internet relationships or something and then she's like, "Oh, come visit me." Um, and then they she sold him off. >> Oh, was that Thailand or >> Thailand? Thailand in same same deal. >> Yeah. Well, yeah. There's no border. Like you could literally drive through and then they'll come to Thailand all the time. And then all around the mountains, it's like unincorporated. There's no cities. It's just Mong people. But then how do like so people aren't allowed to easily leave Myanmar, right? >> I don't know. But those Myanmar soldiers
6:45 came into Thailand all day like the rebel groups. >> Are these actual like the people that are trafficking for the for the scam centers part of the rebel group or are they a total different? I don't know because >> cuz it doesn't I don't understand how they're so easily able to go back and forth from the border and do this >> if they're not like >> I guess like allied with one of the >> or they could be paid off, you know, when sometimes when a country is so unstable. >> Oh yeah. >> Like even like Mexico, right? Like we know a lot of Mexico is just owned by the cartel. So I think when it when the country is unstable, it's easy to just pay people off and get get even like the kind of surface level looking authorities to do shady ████ >> Yeah. Cuz we don't know if the scam centers working with the government or the rebel groups or independently like
7:37 cuz that wasn't a thing when I went there as a like 14year-old with my church. Like I don't I don't think that they were doing scam calls and they didn't even have the internet like the same way. But I'm sure they probably had like slavery, >> but this stuff happens everywhere too. What's that movie like uh with Liam Niss? >> Taken. >> Taken like you know like the hostiles where they kidnap like girls in Europe and then they sell them to like the sex trade. So it's just like I feel like it's sad because there's sex trafficking all over the world, you know. This episode is brought to you by the RP Hypertrophy app. Want to build muscle but don't know where to start? Get jacked with the RP Hypertrophy app built by Dr. Mike Israel, who have you seen on this show. This app features over 45
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9:17 Indonesia. So they just be tricking all these people to like get themselves over there and then they just like and those and those scam centers are are just like all manners of scams like like for scamming people to be like, "Oh, you you look like a model. You should come get the job." And then like the girls scamming guys and like, "Hey, like I'm your online girlfriend. Come come come here or send me money." Like just every manner of scam is what these scam scanners do. >> Uh yeah, I think so. Well, the dude who uh that the guy that we covered, I forgot what he was forced to do. Um but his was I think his was just like like scam calls or something. And then they said that like his quota was impossible to to reach and they said what the quota was and it was like who who's going to do that? Yeah. >> And they would beat him and ████ and then they just uh he I think I feel like
10:07 he got rescued like that that office got raided that he actually got rescued and they were able to show pictures of like where they slept and it was a straight up like prison. >> Yeah. It's a straight up hell hole. Like it's >> When you guys were kids, did your parents ever like scare you guys? Like, hey, you got to be careful. Stay close or you're going to get kidnapped and sold off to these things >> all the time. Yeah. But it never worked on me. >> You would always just run off. You're not kidnappable though. >> Maybe. I don't know. >> Pick him up. >> I know. >> It's probably that weird bull cut. >> I know this and they probably try to steal me at the scam center and they're like this guy too ████ dumb, dude. But it is like you you kind of have to do that. Like if like for instance in this situation this sucks that this happened to her but you know if if she had carried the stigma and the knowledge
10:58 of like oh this should be happening everywhere then maybe you wouldn't so easily bring yourself to Thailand for a >> Yeah. I think it's important to kind of develop that skeptical eye. I think that's the part that's kind which sucks cuz you wish you could like look at the world optimistically. >> Yeah. Absolutely. But if you can like look at the world skeptically and then let the optimism be earned. >> Yeah. >> Like through multiple layers, I think it's helpful. >> Yeah. Or just something simple like um you know not going alone to places. >> Yeah. >> Cuz like everybody always will like you'll hear that a lot and I think like America does a good job perpetuating it too. like whenever an a region is experiencing like a lot of crime against tourism, the US News is pretty good about like, yeah, we ain't going down to this area for right now. You know what I
11:48 mean? They almost like put a soft uh embargo on like, yeah, just don't go there. Like, you're on your own if you go there. But then like you have people like individuals that are like, "No, that's racist." Like, don't don't say that. You can go anywhere you want. It's beautiful. Or like a ████ influencer will have a video like somewhere in Mexico City like, "No, this is the like one guy went. It's fine. But it's like everyone's situation's mad different. And I think like if this s███'s happening, is it worth it to go by yourself? You don't speak the language. You don't know the people. >> Yeah. I I feel like when countries give warning labels, you should just listen to them. >> A lot of people are blaming the Bellarusian government because they're like, "What's h like look at what's what's so bad at the Belusian government that she has to travel for work." >> But that's what that >> But these people are so good at scamming. But international modeling does exist, you know, like people travel the world and get gigs.
12:38 >> But I don't know. I guess there's some when I was seeing a lot of Bellarusian people like commenting something's happening there where they're already mad at their government for something. >> Well, they're really poor. >> So like I think they don't have opportunities, jobs, and then >> you know the stereotype is like they're just drinking all day and they don't have opportunities. >> Yeah. >> It feels like every everybody's people's mad at their government right now. >> Yeah. For real, >> you could be in a first world country and you're mad at your government for something. >> Do you guys remember when Myamar there was like a girl doing a Tik Tok and like she was just dancing and in the back they actually had footage of the coup. >> Of the coup the tanks driving. Yeah. >> Hella ████ like >> she was doing like a fitness tutorial or something outside in the square and then you just see tanks rolling up to it. >> Yep.
13:28 >> Yeah. And then they were all just in the background like going up and taking over the government while she was like doing some ████ Tik Tok and ████ >> But that does show you that like you know even if you're like I don't care what other countries do but it's like when you have one country that's unstable and they are allowed to operate like this >> that's affecting other countries. It's affecting everybody. And if you think about the money that Thailand gets from tourism, that's going to ████ their bag up. If everyone is like, >> "Oh yeah, it's going to mess up all the people that are doing good and like having, you know," and it did. Thai Thailand's tourism is freaking suffering right now. >> It's super low. They have all these interviews and videos of people showing their occupancy, two rooms booked of a whole hotel, and they're just like, "Why?" They're like, "Nobody's coming." I mean, tourism is down like kind of all over the world, >> but this is not going to help it, >> you know? >> Oh, and also they just had that conflict
14:19 with Cambodia. >> Remember that? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That too. Yeah. But it's Isn't it kind of strange that like you look at this where it's like, oh wow, their government's so instable in Myanmar that the problems like this can persist to this level, >> but we are right next to a country that's kind of >> very similar. You know what I like where they can't get their ████ under control and it spills over to It's freaking nuts >> about Mexico. >> Yeah. >> I had two friends that stayed in Tulum >> and then uh the police rolled through and then they said something about some sort of threat. They cleared the whole entire hotel. Everyone had to come out and then uh whatever bags that you didn't take with you, the police took everybody's luggage out of the hotel and they left. And then later they found out that they think it was the cartel that
15:11 was masking as the police, >> dude. >> And they >> they weren't actual policemen. They're just pretending. >> Well, they probably were policemen, but acting on behalf of the cartel >> to steal the >> And it was an entire hotel's worth of luggage. So, iPads, laptops, all stole. Like, >> think of like how many hundreds of rooms there are, you know? And then when you think the police roll through, you're like, "Oh, ████ Yeah, this legit. Yeah, do your search. I don't want that. there's a bomb threat or whatever there is like I take care of it. >> They I did a the entire >> there's a bunch of reports about Mexico in general in specific and I think uh tool area >> that like they're saying American citizens don't go over there. >> Yeah. >> They're targeting you guys. >> They were saying that like because America was cracking down on their trafficking that the cartel there was like well then you're tourists aren't safe now. >> Yeah. So now you go like and how do you even report that right? You go you go to
16:01 the police. Hey you guys >> it was you guys >> stole our ████ >> My iPad back. Yeah, >> ████ crazy, man. >> I'm going to Mexico soon. >> When are you going? >> November. >> Just don't bring anything valuable. >> Not the Tulum, Cancun or Rosarto, right? >> Puerto Varta. >> Oo, is that on the west side? >> December. >> Porto Varta. You're going in December. >> Yeah, Mexico City. >> Yeah, >> I heard that's safe. >> Mexico City is so tight. >> CDMX, baby. >> I heard the I heard the the bordering areas is what's scary. But the >> like Tijuana >> local Tijuana, Tulum, Cancun, >> Rosarto. >> I don't know. >> I don't know if I want to go anymore. >> We're so lucky living in America even though like we have crazy like things that happen here too. But I would take America's crazy over third world crazy >> than to get ████ kidnapped and have my kidneys cut out. >> Also though, like when I travel
16:51 somewhere like I don't look American, I look Chinese. >> That's true. I think we get a pass. >> I just got to not be loud. Also, when I travel, I got ████ my antennas up, too. >> Like, I'm like super scared. >> That is true. I always forget that. I forget that. Like, when we travel, we don't look like Americans first. >> Yeah. >> Unless we're doing something American. >> Once we start talking, then it's like, "Oh, okay. You're American." >> Yeah. We're not like a group of white guys. >> But I just look like a Chinese guy. >> Our accents are pretty believable, though. If we use a Chinese accent, I sound like >> Just speak a Chinese American.
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